Discount Rates
Discount Rates
Discount Rates
DCF Valuation
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Estimating Inputs: Discount Rates
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Cost of Equity
The cost of equity should be higher for riskier investments and lower for safer
investments
While risk is usually defined in terms of the variance of actual returns around
an expected return, risk and return models in finance assume that the risk that
should be rewarded (and thus built into the discount rate) in valuation should
be the risk perceived by the marginal investor in the investment
Most risk and return models in finance also assume that the marginal investor
is well diversified, and that the only risk that he or she perceives in an
investment is risk that cannot be diversified away (I.e, market or non-
diversifiable risk)
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The Cost of Equity: Competing Models
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Short term Governments are not riskfree in valuation.
On a riskfree asset, the actual return is equal to the expected return. Therefore,
there is no variance around the expected return.
For an investment to be riskfree, then, it has to have
No default risk
No reinvestment risk
Thus, the riskfree rates in valuation will depend upon when the cash flow is
expected to occur and will vary across time.
In valuation, the time horizon is generally infinite, leading to the conclusion
that a long-term riskfree rate will always be preferable to a short term rate, if
you have to pick one.
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Riskfree Rates in 2004
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Estimating a Riskfree Rate when there are no default free
entities.
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A Simple Test
You are valuing Embraer, a Brazilian company, in U.S. dollars and are
attempting to estimate a riskfree rate to use in the analysis. The riskfree rate
that you should use is
A. The interest rate on a Brazilian Real denominated long term bond issued by
the Brazilian Government (15%)
B. The interest rate on a US $ denominated long term bond issued by the
Brazilian Government (C-Bond) (10.30%)
C. The interest rate on a US $ denominated Brazilian Brady bond (which is
partially backed by the US Government) (10.15%)
D. The interest rate on a dollar denominated bond issued by Embraer (9.25%)
E. The interest rate on a US treasury bond (4.29%)
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Everyone uses historical premiums, but..
The historical premium is the premium that stocks have historically earned
over riskless securities.
Practitioners never seem to agree on the premium; it is sensitive to
How far back you go in history
Whether you use T.bill rates or T.Bond rates
Whether you use geometric or arithmetic averages.
For instance, looking at the US:
Arithmetic average
Geometric Average
Stocks -
Stocks -
Stocks -
Stocks -
Historical Period
T.Bills
T.Bonds
T.Bills
T.Bonds
1928-2004
7.92%
6.53%
6.02%
4.84%
1964-2004
5.82%
4.34%
4.59%
3.47%
1994-2004
8.60%
5.82%
6.85%
4.51%
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If you choose to use historical premiums.
Go back as far as you can. A risk premium comes with a standard error. Given
the annual standard deviation in stock prices is about 25%, the standard error
in a historical premium estimated over 25 years is roughly:
Standard Error in Premium = 25%/25 = 25%/5 = 5%
Be consistent in your use of the riskfree rate. Since we argued for long term
bond rates, the premium should be the one over T.Bonds
Use the geometric risk premium. It is closer to how investors think about risk
premiums over long periods.
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Risk Premium for a Mature Market? Broadening the sample
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Two Ways of Estimating Country Equity Risk Premiums for
other markets..
Default spread on Country Bond: In this approach, the country equity risk premium is
set equal to the default spread of the bond issued by the country (but only if it is
denominated in a currency where a default free entity exists.
Brazil was rated B2 by Moodys and the default spread on the Brazilian dollar denominated
C.Bond at the end of August 2004 was 6.01%. (10.30%-4.29%)
Relative Equity Market approach: The country equity risk premium is based upon the
volatility of the market in question relative to U.S market.
Total equity risk premium = Risk PremiumUS* Country Equity / US Equity
Using a 4.82% premium for the US, this approach would yield:
Total risk premium for Brazil = 4.82% (34.56%/19.01%) = 8.76%
Country equity risk premium for Brazil = 8.76% - 4.82% = 3.94%
(The standard deviation in weekly returns from 2002 to 2004 for the Bovespa was 34.56% whereas
the standard deviation in the S&P 500 was 19.01%)
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And a third approach
Country ratings measure default risk. While default risk premiums and equity
risk premiums are highly correlated, one would expect equity spreads to be
higher than debt spreads.
Another is to multiply the bond default spread by the relative volatility of
stock and bond prices in that market. In this approach:
Country Equity risk premium = Default spread on country bond* Country Equity /
Country Bond
Standard Deviation in Bovespa (Equity) = 34.56%
Standard Deviation in Brazil C-Bond = 26.34%
Default spread on C-Bond = 6.01%
Country Equity Risk Premium = 6.01% (34.56%/26.34%) = 7.89%
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Can country risk premiums change? Updating Brazil in
January 2004
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From Country Equity Risk Premiums to Corporate Equity
Risk premiums
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Estimating Company Exposure to Country Risk:
Determinants
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Estimating Lambdas: The Revenue Approach
The easiest and most accessible data is on revenues. Most companies break
their revenues down by region. One simplistic solution would be to do the
following:
= % of revenues domesticallyfirm/ % of revenues domesticallyavg firm
Consider, for instance, Embraer and Embratel, both of which are incorporated
and traded in Brazil. Embraer gets 3% of its revenues from Brazil whereas
Embratel gets almost all of its revenues in Brazil. The average Brazilian
company gets about 77% of its revenues in Brazil:
LambdaEmbraer = 3%/ 77% = .04
LambdaEmbratel = 100%/77% = 1.30
There are two implications
A companys risk exposure is determined by where it does business and not by
where it is located
Firms might be able to actively manage their country risk exposures
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Estimating Lambdas: Earnings Approach
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Estimating Lambdas: Stock Returns versus C-Bond Returns
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Estimating a US Dollar Cost of Equity for Embraer -
September 2004
Assume that the beta for Embraer is 1.07, and that the riskfree rate used is 4.29%. Also
assume that the risk premium for the US is 4.82% and the country risk premium for
Brazil is 7.89%.
Approach 1: Assume that every company in the country is equally exposed to country
risk. In this case,
E(Return) = 4.29% + 1.07 (4.82%) + 7.89% = 17.34%
Approach 2: Assume that a companys exposure to country risk is similar to its exposure
to other market risk.
E(Return) = 4.29 % + 1.07 (4.82%+ 7.89%) = 17.89%
Approach 3: Treat country risk as a separate risk factor and allow firms to have different
exposures to country risk (perhaps based upon the proportion of their revenues come
from non-domestic sales)
E(Return)= 4.29% + 1.07(4.82%) + 0.27 (7.89%) = 11.58%
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Valuing Emerging Market Companies with significant
exposure in developed markets
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Implied Equity Premiums
If we assume that stocks are correctly priced in the aggregate and we can
estimate the expected cashflows from buying stocks, we can estimate the
expected rate of return on stocks by computing an internal rate of return.
Subtracting out the riskfree rate should yield an implied equity risk premium.
This implied equity premium is a forward looking number and can be updated
as often as you want (every minute of every day, if you are so inclined).
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Implied Equity Premiums
We can use the information in stock prices to back out how risk averse the market is and how much
of a risk premium it is demanding.
After year 5, we will assume that
In 2004, dividends & stock earnings on the index will grow at
buybacks were 2.90% of Analysts expect earnings to grow 8.5% a year for the next 5 years . 4.22%, the same rate as the entire
the index, generating 35.15 economy
in cashflows
38.13 41.37 44.89 48.71 52.85
January 1, 2005
S&P 500 is at 1211.92
If you pay the current level of the index, you can expect to make a return of 7.87% on stocks (which
38.13 by 41.37
is obtained solving for44.89 48.71 equation)
r in the following 52.85 52.85(1.0422)
1211.92 = + 2
+ 3
+ 4
+ 5
+
(1 + r) (1 + r) (1 + r) (1 + r) (1 + r) (r .0422)(1 + r) 5
Implied Equity risk premium = Expected return on stocks - Treasury bond rate = 7.87% - 4.22% =
3.65%
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Implied Risk Premium Dynamics
Assume that the index jumps 10% on January 2 and that nothing else changes.
What will happen to the implied equity risk premium?
Implied equity risk premium will increase
Implied equity risk premium will decrease
Assume that the earnings jump 10% on January 2 and that nothing else
changes. What will happen to the implied equity risk premium?
Implied equity risk premium will increase
Implied equity risk premium will decrease
Assume that the riskfree rate increases to 5% on January 2 and that nothing
else changes. What will happen to the implied equity risk premium?
Implied equity risk premium will increase
Implied equity risk premium will decrease
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2003
2002
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Implied Premiums in the US
1990
1989
Implied Premium for US Equity Market
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6.00%
5.00%
4.00%
3.00%
2.00%
1.00%
0.00%
Implied Premium
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Implied Premium versus RiskFree Rate
25.00%
20.00%
ERP
15.00%
10.00%
5.00%
T. Bond Rate
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T.Bond Rate Implied Premium (FCFE)
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Implied Premiums: From Bubble to Bear Market January
2000 to January 2003
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Effect of Changing Tax Status of Dividends on Stock Prices -
January 2003
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Which equity risk premium should you use for the US?
Historical Risk Premium: When you use the historical risk premium, you are
assuming that premiums will revert back to a historical norm and that the time
period that you are using is the right norm. You are also more likely to find
stocks to be overvalued than undervalued (Why?)
Current Implied Equity Risk premium: You are assuming that the market is
correct in the aggregate but makes mistakes on individual stocks. If you are
required to be market neutral, this is the premium you should use. (What
types of valuations require market neutrality?)
Average Implied Equity Risk premium: The average implied equity risk
premium between 1960-2003 in the United States is about 4%. You are
assuming that the market is correct on average but not necessarily at a point in
time.
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Implied Premium for the Indian Market: June 15, 2004
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Implied Equity Risk Premium for Germany: September 23,
2004
We can use the information in stock prices to back out how risk averse the market is and how much of a risk premium
it is demanding.
If you pay the current level of the index, you can expect to make a return of 7.78% on stocks (which is obtained by
solving for r in the following equation)
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Estimating Beta
The standard procedure for estimating betas is to regress stock returns (Rj)
against market returns (Rm) -
Rj = a + b Rm
where a is the intercept and b is the slope of the regression.
The slope of the regression corresponds to the beta of the stock, and measures
the riskiness of the stock.
This beta has three problems:
It has high standard error
It reflects the firms business mix over the period of the regression, not the current
mix
It reflects the firms average financial leverage over the period rather than the
current leverage.
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Beta Estimation: The Noise Problem
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Beta Estimation: The Index Effect
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Solutions to the Regression Beta Problem
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The Index Game
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Determinants of Betas
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In a perfect world we would estimate the beta of a firm by
doing the following
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Adjusting for operating leverage
Within any business, firms with lower fixed costs (as a percentage of total
costs) should have lower unlevered betas. If you can compute fixed and
variable costs for each firm in a sector, you can break down the unlevered beta
into business and operating leverage components.
Unlevered beta = Pure business beta * (1 + (Fixed costs/ Variable costs))
The biggest problem with doing this is informational. It is difficult to get
information on fixed and variable costs for individual firms.
In practice, we tend to assume that the operating leverage of firms within a
business are similar and use the same unlevered beta for every firm.
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Equity Betas and Leverage
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Bottom-up Betas
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Why bottom-up betas?
The standard error in a bottom-up beta will be significantly lower than the
standard error in a single regression beta. Roughly speaking, the standard error
of a bottom-up beta estimate can be written as follows:
Std error of bottom-up beta =
The bottom-up beta can be adjusted to reflect changes in the firms business
mix and financial leverage. Regression betas reflect the past.
You can estimate bottom-up betas even when you do not have historical stock
prices. This is the case with initial public offerings, private businesses or
divisions of companies.
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Bottom-up Beta: Firm in Multiple Businesses
Disney in 2003
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Embraers Bottom-up Beta
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Comparable Firms?
Can an unlevered beta estimated using U.S. and European aerospace companies
be used to estimate the beta for a Brazilian aerospace company?
Yes
No
What concerns would you have in making this assumption?
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Gross Debt versus Net Debt Approaches
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Small Firm and Other Premiums
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The Cost of Equity: A Recap
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Estimating the Cost of Debt
The cost of debt is the rate at which you can borrow at currently, It will reflect
not only your default risk but also the level of interest rates in the market.
The two most widely used approaches to estimating cost of debt are:
Looking up the yield to maturity on a straight bond outstanding from the firm. The
limitation of this approach is that very few firms have long term straight bonds that
are liquid and widely traded
Looking up the rating for the firm and estimating a default spread based upon the
rating. While this approach is more robust, different bonds from the same firm can
have different ratings. You have to use a median rating for the firm
When in trouble (either because you have no ratings or multiple ratings for a
firm), estimate a synthetic rating for your firm and the cost of debt based upon
that rating.
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Estimating Synthetic Ratings
The rating for a firm can be estimated using the financial characteristics of the
firm. In its simplest form, the rating can be estimated from the interest
coverage ratio
Interest Coverage Ratio = EBIT / Interest Expenses
For Embraers interest coverage ratio, we used the interest expenses from
2003 and the average EBIT from 2001 to 2003. (The aircraft business was
badly affected by 9/11 and its aftermath. In 2002 and 2003, Embraer reported
significant drops in operating income)
Interest Coverage Ratio = 462.1 /129.70 = 3.56
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Interest Coverage Ratios, Ratings and Default Spreads
If Interest Coverage Ratio is
Estimated Bond Rating
Default Spread(2003)
Default Spread(2004)
> 8.50
(>12.50)
AAA
0.75%
0.35%
6.50 - 8.50
(9.5-12.5)
AA
1.00%
0.50%
5.50 - 6.50
(7.5-9.5)
A+
1.50%
0.70%
4.25 - 5.50
(6-7.5)
A
1.80%
0.85%
3.00 - 4.25
(4.5-6)
A
2.00%
1.00%
2.50 - 3.00
(4-4.5)
BBB
2.25%
1.50%
2.25- 2.50
(3.5-4)
BB+
2.75%
2.00%
2.00 - 2.25
((3-3.5)
BB
3.50%
2.50%
1.75 - 2.00
(2.5-3)
B+
4.75%
3.25%
1.50 - 1.75
(2-2.5)
B
6.50%
4.00%
1.25 - 1.50
(1.5-2)
B
8.00%
6.00%
0.80 - 1.25
(1.25-1.5)
CCC
10.00%
8.00%
0.65 - 0.80
(0.8-1.25)
CC
11.50%
10.00%
0.20 - 0.65
(0.5-0.8)
C
12.70%
12.00%
< 0.20
(<0.5)
D
15.00%
20.00%
The first number under interest coverage ratios is for larger market cap companies and the second in brackets is for
smaller market cap companies. For Embraer , I used the interest coverage ratio table for smaller/riskier firms (the
numbers in brackets) which yields a lower rating for the same interest coverage ratio.
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Cost of Debt computations
Companies in countries with low bond ratings and high default risk might bear
the burden of country default risk, especially if they are smaller or have all of
their revenues within the country.
Larger companies that derive a significant portion of their revenues in global
markets may be less exposed to country default risk. In other words, they may
be able to borrow at a rate lower than the government.
The synthetic rating for Embraer is A-. Using the 2004 default spread of 1.00%, we
estimate a cost of debt of 9.29% (using a riskfree rate of 4.29% and adding in two thirds
of the country default spread of 6.01%):
Cost of debt
= Riskfree rate + 2/3(Brazil country default spread) + Company default spread =4.29% +
4.00%+ 1.00% = 9.29%
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Synthetic Ratings: Some Caveats
The relationship between interest coverage ratios and ratings, developed using
US companies, tends to travel well, as long as we are analyzing large
manufacturing firms in markets with interest rates close to the US interest rate
They are more problematic when looking at smaller companies in markets
with higher interest rates than the US.
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Weights for the Cost of Capital Computation
The weights used to compute the cost of capital should be the market value
weights for debt and equity.
There is an element of circularity that is introduced into every valuation by
doing this, since the values that we attach to the firm and equity at the end of
the analysis are different from the values we gave them at the beginning.
As a general rule, the debt that you should subtract from firm value to arrive at
the value of equity should be the same debt that you used to compute the cost
of capital.
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Estimating Cost of Capital: Embraer
Equity
Cost of Equity = 4.29% + 1.07 (4%) + 0.27 (7.89%) = 10.70%
Market Value of Equity =11,042 million BR ($ 3,781 million)
Debt
Cost of debt = 4.29% + 4.00% +1.00%= 9.29%
Market Value of Debt = 2,083 million BR ($713 million)
Cost of Capital
Cost of Capital = 10.70 % (.84) + 9.29% (1- .34) (0.16)) = 9.97%
The book value of equity at Embraer is 3,350 million BR.
The book value of debt at Embraer is 1,953 million BR; Interest expense is 222 mil BR;
Average maturity of debt = 4 years
Estimated market value of debt = 222 million (PV of annuity, 4 years, 9.29%) + $1,953
million/1.09294 = 2,083 million BR
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If you had to do it.Converting a Dollar Cost of Capital to a
Nominal Real Cost of Capital
Approach 1: Use a BR riskfree rate in all of the calculations above. For instance, if the
BR riskfree rate was 12%, the cost of capital would be computed as follows:
Cost of Equity = 12% + 1.07(4%) + 0.27 (7.89%) = 18.41%
Cost of Debt = 12% + 1% = 13%
(This assumes the riskfree rate has no country risk premium embedded in it.)
Approach 2: Use the differential inflation rate to estimate the cost of capital. For
instance, if the inflation rate in BR is 8% and the inflation rate in the U.S. is 2%
Cost of capital=
= 1.0997 (1.08/1.02)-1 = 0.1644 or 16.44%
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Dealing with Hybrids and Preferred Stock
When dealing with hybrids (convertible bonds, for instance), break the
security down into debt and equity and allocate the amounts accordingly.
Thus, if a firm has $ 125 million in convertible debt outstanding, break the
$125 million into straight debt and conversion option components. The
conversion option is equity.
When dealing with preferred stock, it is better to keep it as a separate
component. The cost of preferred stock is the preferred dividend yield. (As a
rule of thumb, if the preferred stock is less than 5% of the outstanding market
value of the firm, lumping it in with debt will make no significant impact on
your valuation).
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Decomposing a convertible bond
Assume that the firm that you are analyzing has $125 million in face value of
convertible debt with a stated interest rate of 4%, a 10 year maturity and a
market value of $140 million. If the firm has a bond rating of A and the
interest rate on A-rated straight bond is 8%, you can break down the value of
the convertible bond into straight debt and equity portions.
Straight debt = (4% of $125 million) (PV of annuity, 10 years, 8%) + 125 million/
1.0810 = $91.45 million
Equity portion = $140 million - $91.45 million = $48.55 million
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Recapping the Cost of Capital
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