In T371454#10290453, @Pppery wrote:

You posted the results logged out.

Awesome - results are posted here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_elections/October_2024/Results

I can post the preliminary results there and the Stewards can certify them, that's probably the ideal way to resolve this

In T377171#10275815, @0xDeadbeef wrote:

By request of the candidate, please remove SickManWP from the candidates list before election starts, thank you.

Done

In T377171#10266515, @Stang wrote:

Similar to T377014, please also enable must-answer-all for this election, thank you.

In T356442#10266003, @SD0001 wrote:

At the least, I think we should remove the private data from the list page and only make it available on individual vote details pages.

In T377171#10261359, @LuciferianThomas wrote:

Yes, the voter eligibility requirements are identical.

I'm not great with PHP, but would using Html::rawElement instead of Html::element in includes/Pages/VotePage.php resolve this issue? Seems to work on my local install.

In T377014#10261632, @Stang wrote:

In T377014#10261567, @jrbs wrote:

If you do not select a value my understanding is that the vote will be "null" i.e. "abstain". I can change that to require an option with the "Require that all options be answered" setting, if that would be preferable?

Yeah, it will be great if you can set it to "Require that all options be answered", I think that's what we want here.

In T377014#10261364, @Stang wrote:

There do have some problem of "no default select value" - you can still press the "Submit vote" button, and you'll find "Thank you, your vote has been recorded". Something different with my expectation (not able to vote as voter hasn't select an option)?

In T371454#10261328, @Novem_Linguae wrote:

There's a bunch of unrendered HTML on the "summary of your vote" page. But to fix that we'd have to un-hyperlink all the candidates. I guess just leave as is.

In T371454#10261305, @Cyberpower678 wrote:

Update lists{F57640781}

(Gentle reminder that 22 people are receiving an email every time someone comments here ;) )

On the bright side it is pretty trivial to add voters to the election after it has started. I'll await Cyberpower's response before manually adding you in case there was a larger issue with the generation

Will the voter list be the same one generated for T377014 ?

In T371454#10256993, @HouseBlaster wrote:

NoobThreePointOh has also withdrawn.

Sorry for my delay! This is done for all 7 elections.

In T371454#10256540, @Novem_Linguae wrote:

Iwaqarhashmi withdrew today. We should delete from the ballot when we get a chance.

In T371454#10247894, @Novem_Linguae wrote:

In T371454#10247884, @Johannnes89 wrote:

Just want to note that with such a large candidate list, shuffling might be annoying for voters who only intend to vote on some of the users and want to leave the rest on neutral. That's at least what some people said about the U4C election. There is unfortunately no sorting option, if I want to see the candidate list in alphabetical order instead of shuffled.

I personally agree with you and I would prefer alphabetical order, but it's not my decision, it's a talk page consensus. Please feel free to weigh in at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrator_elections#Should_candidates_be_shuffled%3F

In T371454#10249074, @Novem_Linguae wrote:

SheriffIsInTown dropped out tonight. So as a recap of what's still pending...

1. Programming in the 5 messages mentioned a couple posts above

2. Programming in the voter eligibility list that Cyberpower678 provided above

3. Removing SheriffIsInTown as a candidate

After that we should be all up to date. 3 days until launch.

In T371454#10240533, @Pppery wrote:

Note that Joseywales1961 withdrew.

Also of interest - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Enabling_SecurePoll_elections_with_the_electionadmin_right

Also of interest - https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E4%BA%92%E5%8A%A9%E5%AE%A2%E6%A0%88/%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF#Enabling_SecurePoll_elections_with_the_electionadmin_right

Also of interest - https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E4%BA%92%E5%8A%A9%E5%AE%A2%E6%A0%88/%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF#Enabling_SecurePoll_elections_with_the_electionadmin_right

In T377171#10236497, @LuciferianThomas wrote:

@jrbs I noticed a typo in the name of a candidate 薏仁將 (originally listed using simplified Chinese making the name not consistent with actual username). Please correct the candidate's name on the voting page. Also, a change has been made to the vote page configuration (diff), please modify accordingly. Thanks!

Can I please confirm: The voting period begins at 00:00 UTC on Oct 25, and ends at 00:00 on Nov 9? (i.e., 23:59 on Oct 8)?

In T371454#10232486, @Novem_Linguae wrote:

Links to the candidate pages sound fine to me. Thanks for checking.

Thanks for the setup you've already done at https://vote.wikimedia.org/wiki/SecurePoll:1691 and https://vote.wikimedia.org/wiki/SecurePoll:1691/msg/en. Some recommended adjustments:

In T355594#10207120, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote:

Can we at least prefix each table with securepoll_ or whatever (in future) so they're more visibly grouped together in reports?

Just to clarify, here is what we need now:

• Voter list (I assume this will be gathered and provided by @Cyberpower678 )
• Text for the election - this is documented in the section confusingly titled "Translations" here: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/SecurePoll#Translations
  • The key thing here would be if there's any "intro" text, i.e. the stuff that a voter will see at the top of the ballot, and if you want any changes to the regular "jump text" etc.
• OpenSSL key pairs (T&S will generate those but this hasn't happened just yet. That's a five-minute job though)
• Whether or not you want a default option to be set. There are pros and cons to this, since I think a voter will need to select "neutral" for every candidate manually if they don't want to support or oppose. I haven't tested what actually happens in the instance where a voter selects no option though; I can do some work on that as well.

In T377014#10227473, @Stang wrote:

Heard from T371454#10224495 that default value can be set as none

In T371454#10224355, @Xaosflux wrote:

One of them must be specified as the default.

As I mentioned in T371454, the clash is fine, but you will probably have to keep the site language as English. The actual ballot / instructions etc can be in Chinese though.

In T371454#10219154, @Novem_Linguae wrote:

Just poking around SecurePoll in my localhost. I'm happy to leave WMF T&S to creating the actual election in a week or two. But so I can be a better software engineer for Extension:SecurePoll, I'm trying to get my head wrapped around the different election types and how I would hypothetically configure this one.

In T371454#10218979, @Novem_Linguae wrote:

In T371454#10216893, @Xaosflux wrote:

@Novem_Linguae you want to use the same mechanism as the 2023 enwiki arbcom election correct? If so that was:

• ballot: "radio-range"
• tally: "histogram-range"

Thanks! So at Special:SecurePoll/create, under poll type, I should select "range voting (histogram range)"?

Where do I pick ballot radio-range? I don't see the option.

Are there notes somewhere that can be linked to about how exactly the arbcom election SecurePolls are set up?

Once again this has happened with the most-recent Board election; the database says 6,000 exactly, while votewiki says 6,001.

Presumably the work on the Incident-Reporting-System supports the general motive of this task? (Though this is more to do with content than conduct, I suppose?)

In T374310#10130266, @Reedy wrote:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Foundation_nomail_list&diff=prev&oldid=26153633

The long-term solution would be to implement T316349: Replace the on-wiki Wikimedia nomail list page with a global preference.

This display issue was fixed with the backport today.

UBN given the severity of the bug and its proximity to the elections

In T373056#10087817, @STran wrote:

It looks like was changed alongside the drag and drop. On no-js it now forces a value. Checking against the commit right before the drag and drop, voters are able to vote for a subset of candidates so I suppose this is a bug as well.

Thanks for looking into this, I do appreciate it. :)

In T310909#9093185, @dom_walden wrote:

In T310909#9091872, @jrbs wrote:

In T310909#8820975, @Tchanders wrote:

Moving to Done, since @jrbs will QA.

I'm not sure where I'm expected to QA this since I don't see this on votewiki. Is it in beta somewhere?

Do we need to get $wgSecurePollTranslationImportSourceUrl set on production and/or beta? @STran @Tchanders?

Alas that was not the problem.

This is merged and looks good, but it would be nice if this were configurable by election since it is not necessary for e.g. Board elections. But it's not a blocker, just would be nice to have.

I happened to be screen recording at the time which actually proves it's even weirder than I thought.

High priority since this will impact the Board election starting in a few days

They had expired. I have added them back for another month.

In T368610#10056501, @3301796 wrote:

@jrbs The poll is now ended. Rights should be granted to suppressers in zhwiki.

In T368610#10041049, @jimmyxu wrote:

In T368610#10041012, @jrbs wrote:

Sorry for my delay, I am travelling to Poland for Wikimania at the moment. But I have extended the end date until August 12 at 00:00 UTC.

This change has not propogated to zhwiki and https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/404 is still indicating the election had finished. Probably similar to T342774#9315133.

Sorry for my delay, I am travelling to Poland for Wikimania at the moment. But I have extended the end date until August 12 at 00:00 UTC.

In T368610#10040294, @Wong128hk wrote:

@jrbs may I know if the vote can start extend at anytime or need to wait until the end of UCoC poll, technically ?
If possible, please start extend from 5 Aug 00:00 UTC and end at 11 Aug 23:59 UTC. Thanks.

In T368610#10037447, @Zheng_Zhou wrote:

B'crat @Wong128hk also stated that WMF’s security team is already investigating activities that may have obstructed procedural fairness of this RFDA.

In T368610#10036050, @Wong128hk wrote:

@jrbs Per consensus of B'crats, the poll need to be extended for a week in order to get a clear community consensus. Please note. Thank you.

In T368610#10016978, @SCP-2000 wrote:

@jrbs Hello, the vote is ended. Could you please grant the right to Scrutineers for checking votes? Thanks.

In T326412#10001381, @Aklapper wrote:

@jrbs: Hi, the Due Date set for this open task passed a while ago. Should this task be resolved per last comment?
If not, could you please either update or reset the Due Date (by clicking Edit Task)? Thanks!

Probably the best way to implement this would be to create an additional voting method alongside those which already exist. For T368610 we're using Histogram Range with dummy options which just read "Blank" and a question which just says "this has no effect". Definitely confusing.

In T368610#9979773, @SCP-2000 wrote:

@jrbs Hello, could you please add WiTo7946@zhwiki into the voter list? His username was changed recently. Thanks.

In T368610#9975726, @0xDeadbeef wrote:

After some internal discussion, this was a misunderstanding on @3301796's part. The configuration was correct and there is no need to change the options.

In T368610#9975680, @3301796 wrote:

The content of the poll has not written yet! (It should be您是否同意解任 Mys_721tx 的管理員？, 支持, 中立, 反对)

In T368610#9975673, @3301796 wrote:

There is an error on the poll. Can someone edit it?

In T368610#9972203, @SCP-2000 wrote:

@jrbs Hello, could you please change the end date to 26 July 2024 00:00. The voting period is 14 days. Thanks.

Should be done. Election admins (Jimmy Xu, AT, Wong128hk) may check everything looks OK.

I aim to set this up today.

I think this is OK. It will be during the end of the Charter ratification vote that is ongoing, but I think we were comfortable with votewiki being in English for these elections (the options etc would be in Mandarin as usual though).

In T344018#9938842, @Driedmueller wrote:

Hello!

Implementation is finished and ready for review: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/SecurePoll/+/1049558

I chose not to implement a dropdown, because this would be more complicated. This would need to implement a form in the special page.
The solution right now looks like this:

Is this sufficient?

If the user wants to dump in blt format

• via cli, the dump.php command has now the option --blt
• via SpecialPage: title=Special:SecurePoll/dump/<ELECTION ID>&format=blt

Dumping in .blt is possible if

• there are votes
• election has only one question

In T368577#9928221, @Xaosflux wrote:

@jrbs - I think this is just a procedural thing, do you want us to remove this group from those users?

Sorry for my delay:

In T368305#9918953, @Novem_Linguae wrote:

This procedure might help with generating an SSL key: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/SecurePoll/+/1003091/comments/f43b4da5_a507a52d?tab=comments

Escalating to UBN as an election is scheduled for midnight UTC.