Sunday, 3 March 2024

March birthdays

 

March birthdays

 


Monday’s child is fair of face,

Tuesday’s child is full of grace,

Wednesday’s child is full of woe,

Thursday’s child has far to go,

Fridays’ child works hard for its living,

Saturday’s child is loving and giving,

But the child that is born on the Sabbath day

Is bonny and blithe and good and gay.

March seems to be a popular month for birthdays.  It’s my eldest daughter’s birthday today. She was born on the Sabbath day and the verse suits her well.

Tomorrow is my Norfolk niece’s birthday.

March 11th sees my great-granddaughter’s third birthday, followed the next day by her cousin, my oldest great-grandchild, Isla’s eleventh birthday.

My eldest grandson was born on March 27th and his daughter was supposed to be born in March last year, but she arrived in February, instead.

My late mother-in-law’s birthday was in March, too. For all the many years I knew her I never managed to remember which date was her birthday. I used to think it was 17th March, until one year she told me sharply that she wasn’t born on St Patrick’s Day. I determined to remember it the next year, but forgot, and never did manage the correct date until the year she died, the day before her 96th birthday, and then it really was too late. It was after that that I started writing the dates down, as the family expanded.

Now, although I write all the important annual dates in my diary, I somehow seem to forget or overlook some of them, realising too late to post a card. I could ask Alexa to remind me, but we already have so many reminders and it’s all too easy to say, ’Alexa, stop,’ and then forget what the reminder was.

 It’s strange to think that Isla and Frankie will both be going to secondary school in September. They are first cousins once removed or second cousins . . . are they? aren’t they? This is what I found.

 

second cousin and a first cousin once removed are related, but they are not the same.

Second Cousin:

Your second cousin is someone who shares a great-grandparent with you.

In other words, your second cousin’s grandparent is your great-grandparent.

The common ancestor is two generations away from both of you.

For example, if your great-grandparents are the same, you and your second cousin are second cousins.

 

First Cousin Once Removed:

Your first cousin once removed is either:

The child of your first cousin, or

Your parent’s first cousin.

 

The common ancestor is one generation away from one of you and two generations away from the other.

The “once removed” indicates that there is a one-generation difference between your cousin and you.

 

In summary:

Second cousins share great-grandparents and are two generations apart.

First cousins once removed have a one-generation difference in their relationship to the common ancestor.

So, Frankie and Isla are second cousins. If ever I had considered taking up genealogy as a hobby, those types of relationships would tie me in knots immediately. I haven’t the patience to unravel them and in any case would find it frustrating to come across so many unanswered questions. Inevitably, the further back in history the searches go the more such questions arise.

Even in the best regulated and documented families, records have not always been kept rigorously and it’s easy to travel along the wrong road. We have found mistakes in quite recent documents relating to near relatives. I know many people thoroughly enjoy their researches – Barry’s sister-in-law has studied her family (and some of his, as she was married to his brother), for years.

I was contacted some years ago by a far-flung relative who was researching a different branch of my family. It was interesting to see what he had discovered, but not sufficiently inspiring for me to conduct my own researches. Ah, well, each to their own.

Must go and walk the dogs, now. Their genealogy is very plain to see on their pedigrees!

34 comments:

  1. I have never ventured down the Geneology path either Janice. I leave all this to my eldest daughter in law who just loves to research things. Hopefully she doesn't find that I descend from convicts (!!) It is my husbands birthday today also ... happy birthday to your eldest daughter. xx

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    1. Happy birthday to your husband, Julie. I enjoy researching some things, just not in genealogy. Perhaps your daughter-in-law will discover a rich relative for you;-)

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  2. Relationships tie me in knots too. It can be patiently explained for hours and I still just don't get it. I just call them all "family". March has six birthdays for me. My brother, one son, one niece, a grandson, a grand-daughter-in-law, and my great-grandson who will be one year old on Tuesday.

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    1. I can manage the immediate family relationships but get lost when the generations mingle. Happy birthday to your great-grandson - the first year seems to pass so quickly, though perhaps not for the exhausted parents;-)

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  3. I started making a family tree, generally back to the 1800s when most of my antecedents arrived in Australia. It was interesting initially, especially as a friend did a good bit of work on it for me but then I just found it overwhelming. I still have the tree and it does contain a lot of information but I since realised some details are not accurate. Now my mother has died, I have no one to really ask about distant relatives.

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    1. Oh yes, I copied the different family connections to a document. They are helpful as I am not very good at working these things out.

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    2. If only we could remember to ask the right questions of the right people at the right time, but it never seems to happen. We have masses of photographs of people that we have no clue about.

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  4. That last paragraph beginning "I was contacted..." precisely articulates my level of interest in genealogy.
    Time to walk the dog here too!
    Cheers, Gail.

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    1. Walking the dog is so much more interesting.

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  5. I was born on the Sabbath...at 6.00am on Sunday 21st
    of September...and what ever year you choose..! :) HeHe!
    St Matthews day in fact..My Sicilian family, there are hundreds,
    nay, thousands, of family..cousins....etc..etc..
    l even have third cousins, so we're not bothered with
    once/twice removed..who cares anyway..your either family
    or your not..!

    My daughter has done this Ancestry thing, cost her forty
    pounds, she sent me a copy, quite interesting really, l
    shan't bother, l don't want the FBI knocking on my door...! :).
    I have to be careful...being Sicilian of course!
    🙏🐾😽💞🙏🐾😽💞🙏🐾😽💞🙏🐾😽💞🙏🐾

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    1. You must have watche d and understood Montalbano. Our Italian vets admitted that they couldn't understand a lot of the language.

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    2. HaHa! Yes! Very true...As l was raised and close
      to mia Mama..Sicilian was the first dialect l
      learned to speak..even before Italian...
      So yes..I could watch and understand Montalbano,
      subtitles were just in the way for me..!
      I even have Sicilian films dubbed in Italian...Very funny
      feeling that..! :).

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    3. So you understand Italians but Italians can't understand Sicilians - bit like the Welsh and the English;-)

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  6. Oh, gosh - that made my brain spin.
    One of my brothers and my son have March birthdays and also my lovely Mum passed away on March 31st. That year it was also Mothering Sunday so I remember her especially on two days. I wonder when the two will fall on the same day again - must look that up. xx

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    1. It makes my head ache and I doubt I shall remember it and will have the same discussion again with my daughters.

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  7. Husband has done a lot of genealogy but I don't think he ever mastered the second cousin, cousin once removed thing. I shall have to draw a family tree to work out my relationships because I can't do it in my head!

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    1. Drawing a family tree quickly becomes confusing, I find.

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  8. Happy birthday to all the March babies. As for describing relations in my corner, I've never cared beyond cousins. Even the explanation didn't help clear the confusion (may even have made it worse if i cared enough to try and draw a picture of it). Beyond cousins anyone who might happen to be related is valued if they are a friend first (all the cousins are friends - we grew up together).

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    1. It must be lovely to grow up with cousins. Eldest daughter's family are all growing up together. The rest are scattered and don't get together much.

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  9. Oh my word - that felt like a riddle 😂
    My sisters are into family trees but not me so much.......although I like looking at old family photos.
    Alison in Wales x

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    1. I like old family photographs so long as I know who they are. I often wonder at the stories behind the photos.

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  10. Three very pretty girls are pictured but not identified. My husband and I were both born on a Wednesday. Could this be why I seem drawn to things rather melancholy? :)

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    1. Ha ha - I'm sure you're not melancholic at all. My husband was born on a Wednesday, too, and he's certainly not full of woe - rather the contrary, sometimes too much so:-)
      All the photos are of my eldest daughter at different stages, before she started avoiding the camera!

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  11. Just my younger sisters birthday this month, and being petty I will ignore it, as she has done with mine for the past few years.

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    1. Happy birthday, Marlene.
      Petty squabbles happen, unfortunately - that's life.

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  12. I was Tuesday's child ...
    What a lot of family birthdays you got in March! The 19th is my youngest stepdaughter's birthday, and it's Father's Day here in Belgium as well.
    I tried to get my head around your explanation of First and Second cousins ... but I gave up :-) xxx

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  13. I'm a Tuesday's child, too:-)
    I will never remember the difference between first and second cousins, not that it matters - no family fortunes to squabble over here.x x x

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  14. Happy birthday to all the March babies.
    Two of our Grandsons both have March birthdays.

    Love the photographs you've shared.
    Wishing you a good new week.

    All the best Jan

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    1. Thank you, Jan. I hope your week is happy, too.

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  15. I had to go look up the day I was born. I'm a Tuesday child! My son is a Wednesday...though he's a happy sort of guy.

    I read the cousins several times. It still confuses me, so I won't be doing an genealogies any time soon!

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    1. I thought I'd finally got it, but was trying to remember in bed last night, as you do, and got thoroughly confused again!

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  16. March birthdays :-)
    Cousins, once removed, twice removed and more - blowing my mind!!

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  17. That is a lot of of birthdays.. lots to celebrate.

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