Message from @Wes The Savage

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2019-09-03 23:44:54 UTC  

and also not violate the NAP

2019-09-03 23:44:58 UTC  

can I please explain my views without 5 people snapping in vetween I can't even answer ;_;

2019-09-03 23:45:06 UTC  

there is so many points I wanna make

2019-09-03 23:45:25 UTC  

protip: use shift+enter for a line break. makes structuring your messages here easier.

2019-09-03 23:45:35 UTC  

panarchist would come quite close man

2019-09-03 23:45:37 UTC  

actually

2019-09-03 23:45:39 UTC  

@ayy lmao my bad m8

2019-09-03 23:45:52 UTC  

yeah I'm a mobile pleb my dude

2019-09-03 23:45:55 UTC  

Please do so then, I wasn't snapping at you, I don't think any of us are, we were criticising your analogies and your arguments, but please go ahead and explain

2019-09-03 23:45:55 UTC  

no shifts here

2019-09-03 23:46:07 UTC  

nonono not snapping in a negative way

2019-09-03 23:46:10 UTC  

sorry man

2019-09-03 23:46:13 UTC  

go on

2019-09-03 23:46:19 UTC  

just because so many messages came I couldn't read and answer all of them

2019-09-03 23:46:27 UTC  

👍

2019-09-03 23:48:16 UTC  

so like, the "state" or firm, don't care how you define it, defends you, in case of a violation of the NAP, and you pay them for it. If you do not pay them for it, you can retaliate kn your own, but there should be some central power who is even capable of helping weak people aginst let's say an entire community agressing against them

2019-09-03 23:48:37 UTC  

without that people wouldn't have anyone to go to if they don't have a lot of big muscular friends

2019-09-03 23:49:04 UTC  

I guess panarchist sounds a lot like what I have in mind

2019-09-03 23:49:06 UTC  

Will competing arbitration/security services be allowed?

2019-09-03 23:49:23 UTC  

I guess as long as they respect the NAP

2019-09-03 23:49:30 UTC  

Then you are a panarchist

2019-09-03 23:49:38 UTC  

^

2019-09-03 23:49:45 UTC  

Then we agree

2019-09-03 23:49:47 UTC  

could very well be

2019-09-03 23:49:49 UTC  

probably a constitutional panarchist, which is pretty based out of the ninimal gov positions

2019-09-03 23:50:00 UTC  

much more than anything else

2019-09-03 23:50:26 UTC  

i'd be down for such a thing. But don't forget the following. If A does something to B, say steals his chest of moneyz. Even if B does not have any subscription or whatever because he can't afford it or straight up doesn't want it. B can still contact a firm to collect and then the firm gets paid out of extracting the cost out of the perpetrator

2019-09-03 23:50:52 UTC  

^^^^ ayy lmao, keep this on you

2019-09-03 23:50:55 UTC  

record it into a text

2019-09-03 23:50:57 UTC  

kinda crucial

2019-09-03 23:51:14 UTC  

Also, If you want a text file that links to lectures, books, and files let me know ayy lmao, I can DM you some stuff

2019-09-03 23:51:35 UTC  

Of course i'd still support your idea on principle to make things easier, Plus insurance companies would like this to make their job easier

2019-09-03 23:51:57 UTC  

yeah that is a very good point @Jeebus I'm just thinking (I know I'm going hella crazy rn) but let's say some ten thousand people decide to build a fascist ethno state or whatever and start forcing people into it

2019-09-03 23:52:12 UTC  

I don't think the market would really deal with that for monetary gain

2019-09-03 23:52:12 UTC  

And replacing the corporation with liability levying via contractual law on a business would be also vitally important

2019-09-03 23:52:19 UTC  

too prevent statism from returning

2019-09-03 23:52:21 UTC  

Criminals don't like operating under a law which makes their crimes legal

2019-09-03 23:52:54 UTC  

unless they convince everyone they are

2019-09-03 23:52:55 UTC  

GG @Jeebus, you just advanced to level 7!

2019-09-03 23:52:57 UTC  

Now some might say, what about the poor people who can't afford this? There are free or low-cost ways people can arbitrate/secure themselves as well. Perhaps could also form contracts with their neighbors for protection, protect themselves with their own firearms, already have security as part of the HOA they're already paying for in a community, or join a mutual aid society that provides an arbitration service. The possibilities are endless here.

2019-09-03 23:52:58 UTC  

but that's another story