Yes

hence our natural tendency to be tribal

even if it's wrong (imo) and doesn't do a thing to advance society

Societies are hierachiacal; so people are tribal. Not gonna change

our awesome sentient minds should be able to transcend these things

ah, maybe in dream land

So who likes dem big anime tiddies?

we have the brain power to be individualists

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Could be i am wrong but it is easy to OPPOSE something which is loose and nebulous like "socialism" since people can just shout "socialism bad!" without understanding that someone next to you might consider free education or healthcare socialism.

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@Omsomething, I'd buy into that

How do you call into Sargon's current live stream?

just break the law @Neutronic

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@Omsomething, easy to find a cause to hate; another thing to find something you understand and BELIVE in

thats what we Americans do when our government acts like shit

@Deleted User 6/10 would bang

This is true @ManAnimal socialism could be a LOT like what "patriarchy" is.

The question is, is taxpayer-funded healthcare and education classified as "social ownership of (part of) the means of production"?

@Omsomething, as they say, "Everyone is looking for something to die for...harder to find somethiing to live for"

are people defending socialism in here?

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@Omsomething, socialism will ALWAYS be what they call 'patriarchy'; even slaves need one to be in charge

I am pro social democracy, but it could be due to me being Finnish. It kind of gets mixed with national identity.

I am Objectivist but pragmatic

Yes, smash the shit outta marxism

I call it Objective Humanism

Strong societies take care of its weakest members and tries to find uses to them.

hmm

@Omsomething, but not at the EXPENSE of allowing a path to success from those that can acheive

you don't need the state to do that though @Omsomething

ddog oh?

@Omsomething, capitalism has shown that even with inequality, the benefits to the lowest members of society outpace those in socialists system

Do you seriously suggest that nearly everyone doesn't agree that we should have roads and schools? @Omsomething

@Deleted User, u a libertarian?

And what if they can’t find a use for the weakest members?

Ddog‘ as cowboy, he has to be

@Deleted User, it isn't the state or anyone else's job to find a 'use' for anyone?