!agree

Testie, testie.. one, two... three?

Societies are hierachiacal; so people are tribal. Not gonna change

ah, maybe in dream land

@Omsomething, I'd buy into that

@Omsomething, easy to find a cause to hate; another thing to find something you understand and BELIVE in

@Omsomething, as they say, "Everyone is looking for something to die for...harder to find somethiing to live for"

@Omsomething, socialism will ALWAYS be what they call 'patriarchy'; even slaves need one to be in charge

I am Objectivist but pragmatic

I call it Objective Humanism

@Omsomething, but not at the EXPENSE of allowing a path to success from those that can acheive

@Omsomething, capitalism has shown that even with inequality, the benefits to the lowest members of society outpace those in socialists system

@Deleted User, u a libertarian?

@Deleted User, it isn't the state or anyone else's job to find a 'use' for anyone?

@Deleted User, great username

@Deleted User, also libertarian... but again, pragmatic

@Grant , no it doesn't

@Grant, people start out as children

@Grant, ah ok. WHo did?

@Deleted User, the state is like a calculator; garbage in garbage out

@Omsomething, agreed. ANd no. Minimum wage is not capitalism; neither is Federal Banking

@Omsomething, we haven't had capitalism in over 50 yrs

Although I am an advocate of not allowing inheritance

@LotheronPrime, true; but even the best system could stand some improvement overtime

@Grant, the US has no such thing; it is 'neo-capitalism' where the interest rate is artifically held low and people HOARD capital rather than if they do nothing, they LOSE capital

@Grant, the mOMENT you manipulate the interest rate, you have underminded the market mechanism

@Grant, it doesn't mean that 'investors' or 'capitalist' cannot exist in the broken system; but the system as a whole doesn't fuction as capitalism SHOULD

@Grant, the MAIN debating point or critque of capitalism is that it fails to help the lower classes; but that is because of the rich MANIPULATE the system

@M4Gunner, capitalism would work much better without inheritance; if each person had to carry their own weight and could not be 'endowed'

Ayn Rand : " Rags to riches to rags again.. in a single generation"

The first voices who demand redistribution of wealth are those with money who didn't have to WORK for it

@M4Gunner, could goto a cause you beleived in.... but not to any one individual's benefit

@M4Gunner, how do you figure? Mandatory charity?! That IS socialism!

@Omsomething#846 which is WHY holding the interest rate artifically low fucks up the syste,

@Jek Porkins, yes, they also skirt taxes more tthan anyone too

@Neutronic. ad homeniem.

@Neutronic, Fraulein

@Jek Porkins, true; but doesn't charity mirror socialism? Give something for free without earning it?

Charity and inheritance; same result. A group of people who get without earning...

@Deleted User. irrelevant with regards to the person enjoying the benefit

@Deleted User, where the HELL did you get that equivalence?

@Jek Porkins, who gives a shit of the METHOD of wealth redistribution?

Don't confuse economy with governance

@PurpleFyrus you misunderstood me; i am AGAINST redistribution of ANY form; EVEN charity

@PurpleFyrus, whether a person is given what is STOLEN by a government or GIVEN freely through charity, THEY DID NOT WORK FOR IT

@Jek Porkins, I AGREE WITH YOU! But NOT from the leeches perspective!

The argument is what the EFFECT charity or any redistribution will have in the long term...

Once you open that door, IT WILL BE EXPLOITED

@Jek Porkins thank you

IF you give to a charity and they give the money to p eople that DO NOT DESERVE it... you enable socialsm. THE only people that can SUPPORT socialism are brats that were ENDOWED without having to EARN it

@Jek Porkins maybe; maybe not. Think about inheritance of the wealthy

@PurpleFyrus EXACTLY

@Jek Porkins. not anymore

@Jek Porkins no since fractional reserve banking

Capitalism in it's proper for FORCES those with capital to WORK to KEEP that capital. Just sitting on it means they LOSE it

That's problem today

Bank and investors make money without investing in real economic productiong or working to choose properly

@Omsomething, NOT in a completely free market

@Omsomething false. you are describing anarchy and conflating 'governanace' with 'economics'

@PurpleFyrus, anarcho capitalists are just as rabid as anarcho communists

@Omsomething, incorrect. That is like saying a family cannot decided for themselves how labor is to be distributed and hold each member accountable to give their fair share.

@Omsomething, FIRST comes the decision; THEN comes the enforcment of the vote. No vote? No enforcement. We kick u out.

@Maw, no no. not deported

But if you don't like the way vote turns out, you can always leave and go elsewhere

@Omsomething us tax law is SHIT

Hier, hier

ICE ICE baby... we're callin ICE ICE baby....

Stop! Mex-icans and listen. You illegal? You'll go missin'

@Omsomething very true

@Omsomething a good way of putting it too; republicans with money WANT cheap labor; but local workers do not

WHo dat?

The young turd-burglars?

Check it; some decent peps in here

20% of the time, it works EVERY TIME

Anita is a cunt

Who would go NEAR that

you fuck her

I wouldn't rape her with Sargon's dick

She isn't bad lookin' but not worth the damage to my heari ng

Why is the a discord holocaust goin on

All of them were illegals

It's ICE comin to get em'

See the tweet about the coffee shop saying they gonna burn maga chats

Stalin just had one of his purges again

Ahh.

Retards cannot read

wakanda don't take electricity either

was jesus there?

he is a big man in my church

racist jesus

bet jesus was a male feminist

for there being 2000 people on this server, where are the rest of thems

Blame canada

only differnce between africans and europeans was europeans COULD

@Ruggwain Kein Deutsch hier

@Ruggwain, you can't say you to me lol

Shawn King is horror show

@Ruggwain, ja, ja bedeutet Lich mich am Arsch

irish gypises? u mean catholics?