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... Rhythmic music... 8:10 p.m.! ...

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Good evening. Set your watches. It’s 8:10 p.m. sharp on Canal+. You will finally know what we found to
say or to say about our guest. She is the intellectual, intuitive and sensual guarantee of our show .

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Thank you for welcoming Muriel Cousin. Good evening ! ... Powdered category, black glasses and frenetic
fan , this spiritual son of Coco Chanel

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is the sun king of French haute couture . Maecenas , fine art collector, genius photographer, yes, let's not be
stingy with superlatives, this polyglot scholar will leave as his capital work his book The Best of Diets

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or How to lose 42 kg. Please welcome those who remain of Karl Lagerfeld. ... Good evening. Good evening.

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So, dear Karl Lagerfeld, you know the principle of this show. We will try to see the biography of your guest.
And right away, I have 2 puzzles to solve. I don't know how old you are or what your nationality is, because
there was a controversy...

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I left myself included . Oh, you don't know? And then I'm at an age where it 's better to make yourself look
older because it's more surprising than if you made yourself younger. So is it 65 or 110?

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Because the German press does the... The German press, we still have to prove that the person in question is
me. It is more complicated than that . There are 2 Karl Lagerfelds?

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We don't know, it's more complicated than that . You have to wait for my death and my memoirs to know the
truth . Okay. I find that for 65, I mean not so bad, for 70, it's a phenomenon .

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So for book sales, it's great. I would like people to believe that I am 70, because in this case , it 's a bit close
to the Guinness World Records. Besides, you say it's pathetic to want to hide your age . No, but you know,
we understand its rigor between 20 and 30,

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it's understanding... Afterwards , it no longer has any importance. 60, 70, 65, it's like medicines and foods,
it's gone beyond consumer stuff. So, it 's not very serious.

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Reassure us, you have not passed the Frescheur deadline . Don't trust the German press too much , I don't
talk to you enough, there . Okay. The nationality, we don't know.

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Are you German or French ? I'm from nowhere. Are you from nowhere? I'm from nowhere. Still, I had to
know.

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Yes, but no, the stuff... Swedish origins? Yes, maybe , but we don't know anything. Monegasque resident? It
starts with me and it ends with me.

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12 well... Thank you for being on time , Sir Ariel. So, look, I'm absolutely confused. What's wrong with you,
Ariel? You can't sleep tonight

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because I said to myself, coming dressed in front of Karl Lagerfeld is almost like wanting to juggle a ball
with Zinedine Zidane or write a book after Paul Lussulitzer.

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I didn't know... I just didn't know what to wear and I told myself that the only possible outfit was a bathrobe
and naked underneath. Good evening everyone .

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Can we see the rest? Can we see the rest? Either you show everything, Ariel, or on the contrary... Why do
you think, Karl Lagerfeld, that it is necessary...

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These TV presenters no longer know how to dress. You say... No, not at all. Besides, I only did things in re-
lation to myself. I do n't mind dressing other people.

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I'm willing to tell them I think it 's good or bad, but in fact, I don't judge people based on their clothes . Be-
cause if you do this, you cannot judge others by it . My role is to propose them.

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You are happy like that , you are happy like that. That does not concern me. What do you think Ariel should
wear ? A black T-shirt, like all TV presenters ? There are already a lot of them .

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I thought it was a Hedi Slimane bathrobe. Yes, yes, I know, I admit, I put it. Is the hair back? Because he's
showing us his chest. It 's a question of taste and customer .

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It depends. Yes, you have a customer . It's rental hair. It looks good at the end of the show . Thank you,
Ariel.
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So, we're going to review Karl Lagerfeld's opinion. So, you are not only... We know you as a great couturier,
obviously. At the same time, you have the artistic direction of Chanel, but there is also Fendi.

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Artistic, but not direction. No, it made the frame. It made the frame. If I say direction, it's... No, I'm an exter-
nal advisor, that's it.

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It’s in everyone’s opinion, I’m an external advisor. Even in my own affairs. You are more than a fashion de-
signer because you also opened a photo gallery, the Lagerfeld Galerie, 7L, a bookstore.

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A publishing house in Germany I also have. Yes. But I never make my own books. Well , I don't make them
at home. On the other hand, I know that you publish books in German.

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Poetry books too? Not in German. German market books. The Germans no longer bind me. So their big read
is Bunte.

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They don't say much. No, I've made books of all kinds. Photo books, fashion books, but not that many .
There really has to be a certain quality .

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Poetry , non-commercial things because I make books with which we make a lot of money, which allows me
to make books with which we make no money at all.

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And that 's how it should be . Because I don't do this to make money. Not commercial, you still take nude
photos. So, it's still a bit commercial. Yes, but anyway, it 's not commercial because I'm naked.

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For example, in which book? I know that you took photos of Desmimours, photos of... Ah yes, but that was
for a newspaper. A journal is for visionaries, which is an avant-garde journal.

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And when you make clothes like me, it's very difficult to just make clothes . And it was fun with the account,
the emperor's new clothes , to make people naked since that's what it was.

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That was a play on words from the visionary. So, I'm doing this as a photographer for an avant-garde maga-
zine. It's not the same thing . And you know, this number ,

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which, at the time, cost 800 francs because there was no advertising, today you can't even find it for $10,000.
Finally, we understand that you don't do anything for money. Not exactly.

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No, no, but it's true. You are above that . You live in another century , in fact. No, I am immediately more
modern. I'm more like in the 3rd millennium

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than in the 18th or 19th, which I hate. The 20th was OK, but I prefer today . All right. So, that's not what the
officials say. And when you have dealings with the administration,

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in particular tax matters, we realize that that's not at all what ... But that 's an old story. I believe there would
be a modern, new show, before 2000.

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That 's all settled . That 's all settled . I don't even remember it anymore because all the things that aren't very
funny , I forget.

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And in the end, I didn't suffer at all. It lasted 16 years. That means it wasn't that simple . And in any case ,
what the general public doesn't know, I paid taxes in France, and quite a bit.

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I'm not sure there are that many people paying that much. So, out of there , it's not even a subject anymore.
We have proof of that. You pay taxes in France.

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And how do you have the proof? Look, you'll see. Yes hello ? Yes. Alright . _

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Bring in Mr. Lagerfeld. Mr. Lagerfeld? Sit down. So, I summoned you because you are aware that you owe
the French tax authorities

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tax receipts . For what ? Because you are late on payment. No, my question was, why should I pay taxes ?

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Because it's the law. Bulgarian taxes do n't interest me . You have to . Listen, I don't have time to fight, but
you, very much in these basic considerations,

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I try. Ah well. So you're going to oppose it. Yes. GOOD.

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So, you will pay us by check . What ? _ What is this ? No, it's vulgar. To pay you,

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I am giving you 3 candlesticks, 3 belonging to the Medici, a 16th century organ as well as 4 18th century ta-
pestries to adorn your office.

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No, that's not possible. We are in the 20th century . The 20th century is vulgar. Listen, Mr. Lagerfeld, we're
going to have to find a solution.

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I have a big problem . I have the solution. You need a long glue shirt to add some thickness to your
mediocrity . To illuminate your dress with strict poetry ,

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somehow. There you are , you are perfect. You almost look like a god. He no longer lacks glasses and white
hair. There , it would be perfect.

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How do we make money? Don't worry. I offer you my advice out of love for France. I want to talk about
taxes . Stop the horrors of vulgarity .

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It is very good. So, Karl Lagerfeld is proud of the truth. He is proud of the truth. He is proud of the truth.
There is truth in this story.

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There is truth. I'm afraid there is truth in the way I speak. At tax time , I was still a little rounder. So, I still
had the fan which went away. There was nothing left to hide.

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And I didn't have school like that yet . So there is truth and falsehood. The dark glasses, on the other hand,
were... Yes, yes. I want to see, but I don't want to be seen.

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So, you know, people who are a little miopic, they quickly have the look of a nice labrador. And I can't stand
that at all . But when you 're confident, it seems you take them off when you feel better.

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And finally, it’s Stéphane either. Listen, I myself have... Yes , you are revealed . I was cash with you. Yes
OK.

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What's strange is that we're talking about money. But you have very simple tastes . You say you don't like
caviar or champagne. Yes, that 's the drama. And you only take 0% yogurts.
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Exactly. This is the real injustice. He doesn't want to want power because it doesn't mean anything to you.
Yes. Basically, in addition, you have decreased in volume.

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Yes, I am virtuous without merit. Because virtue has no merit. We gave up fighting. Me, nothing, I don't
care, I don't want to. Finally, you fought like a canton.

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Someone who can come... No, no, no, that 's not possible at all. I had gained weight because I wasn't interes-
ted in that. Then, there was this Japanese fashion which was very chic . The materials were very good .

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We could padded ourselves, if I dare say so, inside . And we didn't notice it. And I had no blood pressure, no
cholesterol. So everything was fine. And then, one day, I saw the fashion of Dior Homme, of Hedi Slimane.

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I said, well, I would like to put that . But I said, man , that's not for that kind of look. So, the natural down ja-
cket, we're going to take it off. And it took us 13 months to remove it. And we took off 42 kilos.

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And we ended up in size 46, 40 for the pants. Without cosmetic surgery, it must be said. Yes, people like the
cross because it reassures them. But unfortunately, no, it's all homemade . No no no.

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People love the idea that it's fake. Besides, I noticed, now a little less, but at the beginning, people looked at
me and kissed me behind the ears to find out if there was a little scar or there , if there was anything thing.

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But no, unfortunately, it's homemade. It’s true that it intrigued a lot of people. Tom Slatt, you know that.
Yes, earlier you asked the question. But how old are you exactly?

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I think the question should have been asked. I start talking very quickly when there is Karl Lagerfeld. I do
not know why. The question should have been asked. How old do you feel you are, finally?

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No age . No age at all. No nationality, no age . No age , no nationality. I am part of no generation .

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I don't have any family. I'm kind of a lonely thing that hovers. Besides, we told your mother , you will live
like on a cloud. It was a digital prediction.

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Exactly. She was absolutely right. And that's kind of what's happening to you too. I always made it happen.
This has been happening for quite some time . When we think that in the 18th,

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everyone wore powdered wigs. And you do it naturally too. You do it today too, by the way. No. For me, it's
not a wig.

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That's the difference. So, we are going to fall into our little cloud for the arrival of St éphane Millon, who I
would like to talk to you about, of course. You know, it's not powder.

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I use dry shampoo. And that I brush the eggs because my hair is gray and it only looks ugly. So, I prefer it to
be white and white.

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But you know, you are in France. You are not in Germany. There is no law that stops men from wearing
powder in their hair. Plus, you like cows.

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My father made his fortune with it. So, I'm not going to cry about it . Yes, it's true. Stéphane Millon. Good
evening, Stéphane .

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Are you doing well ? I'm suspicious when you have that predatory smile. No not at all. On the contrary, you
will see. Are we going to be surprised?

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You will be surprised , yes. In what sense, I don't know, but you'll see. Karl Lagerfeld, I loved you big time.
I am one of all those people who, today, feel orphaned, robbed .

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Give us back our original Lagerfeld. Remember. First we saw a fan, then a pair of glasses and finally, far
behind ,

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a bibendum inflated with helium, spiritual son of Castafior and the Michelin man. All camouflaged in a large
black tarpaulin . Yamamoto clothing protects large cubes.

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For those nostalgic for the first hour, I'll give you your measurements again. 102 kg for 1.80 m. And then,
suddenly, while you were walking on a highway rest area,

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we detect a slow puncture . You will lose 42 kg in 13 months. This is the same principle as for air mattresses.
A collagen patch implemented by Professor Renard
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will put an end to this disaster. Slow puncture, a little-known problem which mainly affects obese VIPs .
Paul-Loup Sulitzer leaves a major work on this subject,

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waist size in 80 days. You needed 395. Paul-Loup's puncture was much quicker. Your ponytail, which acted
as a pendulum, would have slowed down the escape.

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Faced with this tragedy, you will bounce back. If I may say so, at 60 kg, we still bounce less far than at 102.
This new look will inspire your future collections with increasingly thinner models.

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and a featured theme, Ethiopia. Very holy feature, exposed rib , with flies around the mouth. Oh no ! Pro-
mote thinness at all costs ,

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it's a bit quick to forget that some suffer from it. Your new silhouette becomes a global event. All the press
reports on this subject. Your fight against calories. No article, however, in the tire review.

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And that ’s regrettable. Speaking of tires, your skin... Your skin, sorry, I'll start again. Speaking of tires, your
skin is perfectly smooth. No visible grooves.

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It's annoying when it rains, especially since you no longer have your eternal windshield wiper. You owe this
result to La Prairie cream made from sheep fetuses. For a hazelnut of this nectar,

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kill 3 carrying females. The farmers don't blame you. Down there , they call you the scarecrow. When you
go on TV , we put the post in the cherry tree ,

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It made the words flee. It's a bit like battle. It's a bit like battle. It's a bit like battle. When you 're on TV ,

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we put the post in the cherry tree, it scared the sparrows away. So, don't forget, to stop looking like a big
cow, use some fetal sheep.

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No one in this studio can afford it. And then it made your hair curl. It's made from mutton. Afterwards , you
have to tie them up. Julien Clerc, who put a lot into it,

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his voice quavers. Before leaving us, your very last secret to maintain your figure, I quote you...

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... Before leaving us, your very last secret to maintain your figure, if I want one more bite...

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I'm not going to make it. I will resume. Before leaving us, your very last secret to maintain your figure,

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If I want one more bite and it's not allowed, I chew it and spit it out. Enjoy your meal, everyone, if you are at
the table. Applause

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Thank you, St éphane Guillon. A reaction, Karl Lagerfeld? It's the son Michel. This is very fun. Half the
world is hungry

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and the other half only thinks about losing weight. The other half will be able to eat what he spits out.
Laughs Is the very high school to hide wrinkles? You often quote a phrase from Balzac.

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I wasn't warned. I always had high school. I only like that. Even as a child, I went to school with the high
school. I hate that.

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The photos from before the war of 14 give a well- washed look . It's important at a certain age to be clean .
Eric Bonstreuil. It started from my idols.

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When you see the collar from behind ... It's open at the back . You can't button this in the front. You publish
the best diets. You are proud to have achieved that too.

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It was a kind of challenge. It 's entertaining. It’s a challenge like any other. I wasn't sick or anything. I wan-
ted to put something else on.

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's very superficial. It's more effective than tragedy. It 's not as effective. Losing weight because you 're sick is
no fun. Lose weight because you think you are too fat

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and it makes you laugh to say something else, it's a very good approach. We are no longer allowed to eat
anything. I see you haven't seen the book. He saw it.

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Personally, we don't really need to lose weight. Me neither. It's true. I thought that was the case. It's true.

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I thought it was a diet for men only. It's easier for men. It's easier for men. I don't write for people who need
to lose weight. But there are also some who are not all present

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who need or want to lose weight. It depends. If you are sick, yes. But if you are not sick and you have a dif-
ferent look, there is no other way than to lose weight. A few years ago, you had lots of books in the works.

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You had 5 books. There was one about your life, about Princess Palatine, another about 18th century gardens
. It's this one . You are not aware . I've done plenty of others.

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And since then, I have become an editor. I care more about the books I edit than my own books, because it's
very vulgar to do that . I never make books in my name at home. That 's what I don't do.

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The collections of some have increased me. The history of photos. I don't have much time. I prepare things
that should not invade the market. Otherwise, there is a bidding war . You don't have to make a book out of it
all the time.

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We will talk about your activities. I beg your pardon. I have my mother in my earpiece all the time. She tells
me that I am very poorly dressed . You are not dressed at all.

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THANKS. Bye. Are you crazy or what? I'm in the middle of a show. We couldn't leave it like that . You
have someone who was in good condition. Wait. First of all, who are you ?

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My name is André Dagame. Nobody is perfect. What are you doing ? I am responsible for chairing the main
trade union . So, obviously, I had to intervene. Because Karl Lagerfeld was a normal human being .

19:28

All of a sudden it becomes... You take a curtain rod . With the curtain, you put it vertical. You put on a han-
ger, a coloring of the pie. And you have the silhouette of Karl Lagerfeld.

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This can't work. We must save him. It's certain that he's more concerned with filling the hangers. We knew it
garnished. I served him lunch once. In a hotel in Paris.

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It was more filling. He lost a little of his heartiness. For a restaurateur, this is not tolerable. But he ate clean-
ly. Yes. It has tart colorings.
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He doesn't eat pie anymore. He should try foie gras. Because foie gras does not make you gain weight. It
made the geese and ducks fat. But not those who eat the liver.

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Foie gras only makes you gain weight if you eat too much bread. You have to give him the tip. So pure foie
gras. Like that , the spoon , he won't eat much. And ladle caviar , obviously.

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But that concerns me less, caviar. Foie gras is close to my heart. Do you think his health is in danger? Men-
tal, certainly not. Because it deflated .

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He has not lost his genius. But he's skinny. He shouldn't die thin. There's nothing worse than dying thin.
When we see such a thin man, do we feel, when we know food like you,

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that it was big ? That depends . You should see it. We should see if he has taken the pot off his stomach a lit-
tle. That's all. We can't tell you that . But it doesn't suit him badly.

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I prefer it to be him who sets up a school like that than me. But it doesn't suit him badly. Only he's skinny.
And we, restaurateurs, are against obese people . But we can't stand skinny people. What do you know as a
restaurateur?

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as elegant as Karl Lagerfeld? All full. All full. Earn. Bocuse who is more 80 years old than 40. But he has
good looks too.

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They are all elegant . There are no more obsessives among cooks. Good. Listen. If restaurateurs give advice
on elegance to fashion people, we'll see if Karl Lagerfeld is capable of giving you lessons .

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He already did it. He wrote a little cooking book. So it 's just a shepherd response to shepherd . THANKS.
Bye. Applause

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Karl Lagerfeld, you know Mr. Daguin who is the president of the French restaurateurs union. So he prefers
you a little more hearty . This is normal in his profession. He suggests you eat foie gras.

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Is this something you prohibit? No. I do not believe. I 'm not very aware of that . But it’s something I’m not
crazy about personally. So that doesn't tempt me yet . So when you work in fashion,
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It’s true that there is a window. The fashion shows , for example, all the models are superb, slender, skinny.
So thinness is also... Yes, but when I was rounder,

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I didn't compare myself with it. So it doesn't bother me . No, it's more personal than that . What do you think
of the debate that all models and images of skinny people have produced anorexics ?

22:24

As this gentleman said kindly that I was skinny. I find myself thin, but not skinny. Most of these girls are
thin by today's standards . Thin, thin, it started a little later anyway . Kate Moss, she was like Brandy when
she was 15.

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Well, at 15, kids are like that . Today, she is plump and lovely, but she is not fat. She's not skinny, skinny ei-
ther, but she's thin. That said, you are an atypical couturier, a stylist...

22:46

I don't know the others. Truly not ? Barely. We'll talk about it later . Yves Saint-Laurent, you started with
him. Is this a show about prehistory?

22:57

You made your debut with him. They look like old actresses. Today, it's true that you are quite atypical, be-
cause you still embody the house of Chanel. You are a bit like his son.

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Spiritual, maybe son , right? It was good for the legacy, but you didn't need it. Don't always bring it back to
the same subject. All right. But if we talk about fashion,

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Are there other couturiers or other stylists trying to create their world? You took over the universe that exis-
ted. Yes, but I have mine nearby . And then, Fendi is yet another universe.

23:30

I have three universes, so it's even better. Me, I am universal instead of having a universe. How many chal-
lenges do you create per year? You know, there are collections that don't show, but I'm for it to show .

23:41

I don't do ten, ten easily. But I love it . And don't think there is the slightest weariness. On the contrary, it is
the process of making a collection that amuses me. The presentation is not what amuses me the most.

23:52

It is the process of work, the journey of work. It 's very fun, it 's very exciting. The evolution of materials ,
techniques and everything, I find it fantastic. So, when you organize a fashion show ,

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how do you choose the models? It’s a challenge, we know them . From the outside, it seems a little strange.
From the inside, it seems normal . It's like you're doing a show.

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It happens like that . There are new girls, there are girls who are good, who were less good before. And if we
find them too round, we have a very good method. We have a dress that no one can fit into.

24:25

They say, put on this dress. And they say, you look lovely, but unfortunately, it doesn't work. We can reveal
a secret. Your next fashion show will take place at the Hall de Rungis. We followed your assistant during her
casting.

24:36

Look. Where there are the corpses... So, Carl, for your next fashion show , I decided we were going to sur-
prise. We are in the process of developing a new concept

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which is called Food and Fashion. Food, food. Fashion, fashion. With Carl, we want to innovate. You know
he's someone who always questions himself.

24:58

He always moves forward and puts an end to the nerdy models, the kind of twinks who demand astronomical
fees to carry around negligibly. So. _

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We would like the people here, who really have their hands in vegetables and things, to parade for us. We're
going to cut your hair. We're going to wax your chest.

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Are you hairy or not? No, but I still hold my hair. Ah, okay, you care. Don't you want to spend this just to
please me? No seriously.

25:31

Do you know punk fashion? Yes, but it 's from 1977. Come on, let's go. There is no handle? Yes, there is a
sleeve on one side .

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I can't put my arm in? No, it's very good , that's how it works . You see, when you want, you can. That 's it,
very good. It's perfect.

25:53

Take that away . We don't talk about it anymore. You walk, turn. That 's very good. Perfect. Do you already
have an agent or not?

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It's a little tight at shoulder level. It's not serious. You see, we did this for models who are weaklings. People
who never work, who do nothing. It shouldn't be a success , that gesture .

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For what ? It's not great. I find it terrible. She's punky, she's trashy. At the same time, the contrast with the
vegetables is the whole world of the night arriving in the world of dawn.

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It's after fashion. It’s after fashion. No, that suits me fine . Applause He's a genius .

26:37

This might give you some ideas, Karl Lagerfeld. You know, there are people who are not far from that in
half of the speech. There are people who are not far from this kind of speech. To tear everything apart, who
are you thinking of ?

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I don't think of anyone. That's my big thing. I never think about anyone. I only think about myself . What,
anyway, is this sacred egoism that drives you ? It's the instinct of self-preservation.

26:59

I advise others to do the same because you can sacrifice yourself only if you have something to give. If, by
giving everything, we have nothing left to give, it 's useless . I don't know if the survival instinct really fits

27:10

to the idea of losing so many kilos. You know that when you lose weight, you have seen the heatwave. When
you know how to swim, you no longer need the boil. It's true. You have a lifestyle that is always subject to a
lot of...

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Fashion is my life. It's good that you're talking a little more about fashion and less about diet because there's
no more fashion. We were talking about a definitive non-fashion. I don't say anything. Kindly, I listen.

27:32

And I answer the questions anyone wants to ask me. It's more repartee than response. You have a lifestyle
that is quite particular. That of an 18th century lord . We weren't there. We don't know exactly what it was
like.

27:43

The idea we have of it, perhaps . Yes, the idea we have of it. But you also cultivated. With houses decorated
in an 18th century style. But I dropped all that afterwards . Then it didn't match anymore.

27:54

You have a collection of 230,000 works. It's true ? Unfortunately yes. Because it 's very cumbersome. It is
enormous. It's terrifying. But one day I have to make a decision .

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Who can inherit such a thing? Who can take this ? It's gigantic. Would you leave it at the National Library ?
Perhaps they will have the same one . But these are books of everything that has appeared over the past 40
years

28:16

in art and things that interest me. Photography and all. It's incredible. What must be funny is that when you
go on a trip, it must be a real move , when you travel. Yes. That's why I almost don't like traveling anymore.

28:27

I have a car to get from one place to another. That's why I don't like leaving Europe. It's a car where I have a
bed, a table and everything. You are like Raymond Roussel. I am not at all against Romain Roussel.

28:38

He is very interesting as a character. Except that I don't like the story of the mother who travels with her cof-
fin. That doesn't matter to me. When she got to the place she wanted to go, she left right away.

28:49

You don't go to campsites, we imagine. No, because I have no reason to go there. That would really be a
kind of absurd provocation. But I mean, I have nothing against anything. But that said, it is claustrophobic
and at the same time ,

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he has houses everywhere. It's still a weird paradox. You escape from one house to another. You can be
claustrophobic in a dressing room waiting for an hour. But we're not... But not in my houses.

29:10

On the contrary, I only like open things with lots of air and lots of windows . My houses are not claustropho-
bic at all. What I like is the changes. This is my philosophy, if you can call it that .

29:22

It's my way of acting with myself. It ’s still pathological, this way of collecting Karl Lagerfeld. Let me ask
you, when you were a little boy , did you suck your thumb?

29:33

Or did you have a transitional object? I do not remember. But I do n't think I would have been allowed it for
long because my mother thought it was horrible. Didn't you have a favorite cuddly toy ?

29:44

No, I don't remember. But you know, I have a lot of amnesia . For everything that doesn't matter. Everyone
knows you are a big collector. It’s the 20s, the 40s, the 50s, the 18th. It's the past. Now I only want things
from today.

29:59

For example, what we see, the Créot gallery and all that . I don't want anything from the past anymore. At
least not mine. But you have a collector's pathology at the same time . And we have the impression that pre-
cisely... Is the word pathology right?
30:09

It's about having a kind of curiosity and having the chance to be able to move and to have the means to have
things. But to own. You need to own it at the same time. But not long. No, I need to acquire. It's not the same
thing .

30:20

There is no sense of possession. Exactly, in fact, all your collections work a bit as if they were your own cud-
dly toys . Your transitional objects. I want it, it's there . And then, I no longer wanted it, it disappeared .

30:30

It's a bit finicky, isn't it? No, it's a quest for love and tenderness. It's me , I'm like that. I was like that , I didn't
want to be like that anymore . I did that , I changed .

30:38

A desire to invent oneself all the time. Yes, me and the circumstances. It is my job. Do you think that sexua-
lity has no importance there ? Today, it is overexploited . Sexuality , gym and the rest are the same subjects
now.

30:50

But don't you think that the acquisition and presence of all these objects has a reassuring function for you? Is
it to protect you? I don't need reassurance.

31:00

Me, I'm so sure of myself , I don't need material things to be reassured. Then also, collectors have another
characteristic trait. I am not a collector. I'm a picker, if you like.

31:10

A buyer , but with a limited time frame . I don't get attached to things. You are in fact the collector of collec-
tors because you collect collections. He's definitely the ultimate collector .

31:21

Earlier , we called it an assemblyman. I made a look, a mood, a house, a thing. But when I did, there is a
German proverb that says “Say goodbye and recover your health” .

31:33

It's very unhealthy to stay attached to things. What's great is that, as a collector, you have finally made your
job because you make collections. So you are a collector of the theme at the moment .

31:40

And you make collections. And it is always also a desire to feel approved, to be loved by others and to be
recognized . Could you like others and be recognized? I do not know.

31:49

I may have passed this stage. I can not tell you. But that's because I like changes. That's why I hardly see
people of my generation , or anything.
31:55

Because they are stuck in a period where they were successful , where they were happy , where they thought
like that . It 's very good, but it's the past .

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And afterward , it became even more beautiful with memory. You have an improved memory. They forget
everything that is unpleasant and believe that it was good times. It's horrible.

32:09

We still want to know, in your biography, what Karl Lagerfeld was like as a little boy , but we will find out
later , after the ad.

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You're still watching 8:10 p.m. sharp. Our guest is Karl Lagerfeld. We still want to sort the wheat from the
chaff. Know what is true

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and what is wrong. It's not mine, it's the one people imagine. Yours . _ Tell us the truth .

32:47

What were you like when you were a little boy ? From what I know , quite unbearable because I'm too happy
with myself.

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Oh yes ? You hated the other kids. Oh yes, I hate children. But now, no. Now I love

32:57

other people's children. But as a child, I didn't want to deal with children. I wanted adults

33:02

and I wanted to be an adult. That's why I love them. But where were you ? In Germany, in Hamburg, is that
it ?

33:07

Yes. I spent my childhood on the Danish border in an isolated house deep in a forest .

33:12

5 years ago, you required a valet to serve you, is that true? Demand, I have a lot to say. Hey, this photo has ,

33:17

she has a pretty funny story . No. Because I wanted to dress differently after the nap

33:22

than what I had in the morning and people find it a bit tiring. That ’s the story. And your parents
33:27

Foreign Affairs , called you . No, still .

33:32

There is a legend but it is not this one . Mrs Ribbentrop, I don't know her. Mr. Ribbentrop,

33:37

he had a reputation for being very stupid . I don't know where this reputation comes from and my mother
always told me

33:42

you are as stupid as Ribbentrop. I do not know why. I did not know Mr. Ribbentrop. I don't know if he was
stupid or nothing.

33:47

Remember that he was German Foreign Minister under the Nazi regime. I don't know, I didn't know him.

33:52

I can't tell you what it was like. What is the most false thing that has been said about you? Because we talk
about so many things.

33:57

The most incredible thing. There's some truth in it. In this school, deep in the countryside, on the Danish bor-
der ,

34:09

we could choose between gym lessons and dance lessons . But not classical dance like waltz, thing.

34:14

And I chose that , I found it funnier. Because I had already cycled six kilometers to get there,

34:19

It was meant as a sport. And I was always afraid with other sports, fixed bars, that I was going to damage my
hands

34:24

because my thing was drawn. So I especially didn't want to do anything where my hand could get damaged.

34:29

Very quickly , to climb the ladder little by little . I love the word. It didn't take very long.

34:34

Oh yes ? Do you have the feeling when you look back that it happened very quickly ? I don't look back
34:39

but I don't feel like I struggled for that. It happened naturally over time. You got this thing

34:44

a little aristocratic to be born finished. You were finished when you were born. Nearly. I don't know,

34:49

It takes nine months for everyone. Why, Ariel, do you feel like you haven't been finished ?

34:54

Ah, but for me, I am always happy to improve myself through contact with you. But hey, yes,

35:00

we need to work on the question a little. You speak four languages. Your father spoke of nine. You still have

35:05

been privileged . _ _ _ _ You were born with a silver - gilt spoon in your mouth. Yes, but that requires a
privilege

35:10

to learn languages because today we had to tell all children to learn all the languages.

35:15

Well, three, four, English, French , German, Spanish. It helps in life and it's more fun because when we go

35:20

in a country where we don't understand the language, we still feel a little illiterate . Me, in Japan and Russia,

35:25

I feel like an illiterate . Absolutely not. I leave these kinds of questions to you. What is more interesting,

35:35

is that you come from a rather privileged background . Did it help you enter the fashion world?

35:40

No, because I won an anonymous competition. In any case , completely anonymous . Completely anony-
mous .

35:45

So, this competition, you were in the wool and the one who was next to you, it was...

35:50
We were both in the wool. There were two prizes. That 's my father . We were both

35:55

in wool because it was a competition organized by the secretary. I won the Coat prizes and others.

36:01

And Yves Saint-Laurent, we can say it, his name. Yes, but it's you who... It's your show,

36:06

it's not mine. Does saying his name bother you ? No not at all. Absolutely not.

36:11

He was very funny in his youth. What happened ? Then, it's true, there was Jean Patou,

36:16

there were the Fendi Sisters, Chlo é... The Fendi Sisters, they sold the business to Mr. Arnaud,

36:21

but the affair continues. I did everything at Fendi And the day you got your name, that is the collection

36:26

Karl Lagerfeld was ... By the way, it's a story that came about through circumstances. In fact, I didn't really
care about it

36:31

because I'm not crazy about my name above a door. But hey, this affair existed, we had to take responsibility
for it. But in fact,

36:36

It's not my obsession. Contrary to what people might think, I have not at all the height of success to have his
name above a door.

36:41

n't you a megalomaniac? You know, we give impressions to ourselves which are not necessarily impressions

36:46

that we give to others. I find myself self-effacing, modest, and everything you want. But finally, we can
dream . So, in this show,

36:51

we want... Your head has not lost weight with your body. She still stayed ... My head is spinning ,

36:56

It's the only thing that can't lose weight. So, we have... You don't have a problem ? No.
37:01

You would be ready to go to the Pope. There are only solutions. So, when we want to know other details

37:06

about your life, Ariel was asked to launch her Did You Know column. Did you know,

37:11

Karl Lagerfeld. Did You Know, Karl Lagerfeld, number 1. Karl Lagerfeld

37:21

loves mud, hides undocumented immigrants, buys wine in bulk, makes braids with the hair from his legs.

37:26

All this information is not verified . Did You Know, Karl Lagerfeld, number 2.

37:34

Learning French cost Karl Lagerfeld the sum of 6,000 francs at the time . That's what we call

37:39

learning. Karl Lagerfeld, Did You Know, number 3. Karl Lagerfeld

37:47

has a rare specificity . He is a single twin, an identical twin at that. It is therefore double

37:52

of someone who doesn't exist. Karl Lagerfeld, Did You Know, number 4.

38:00

The castle of Karl Lagerfeld, I try to make it into the saga, the castle of Karl Lagerfeld,

38:05

We can't do it, Ariel. Karl Lagerfeld's castle contains a splendid

38:11

hotel which itself houses a sumptuous villa in which there is a very elegant loft .

38:17

But he prefers to live elsewhere. Noblesse oblige. Karl Lagerfeld, Did You Know,

38:26

number 5. It has been calculated that the weight lost by Karl Lagerfeld during his last diet
38:32

is equivalent to that of In è s by Lafraissange. A good opportunity to reconcile . Exactly,

38:41

there are true things but it doesn't matter if it's false because it comes from your legend. So precisely,

38:46

women, let's talk about women, there are two women I know you love who are very different from each
other,

38:51

In è s de Lafraissange with whom you are reconciled and Princess Caroline of Monaco. Yes but that,

38:56

've never been angry with it. Well , by the way , I wasn't really mad either . The press made a story about it

39:01

which has no connection with reality so it's old stories. But these two women are quite different

39:06

and you love them. Both. Listen, you can be any friend of your friends

39:11

to something so that we prefer them to others . For me, it represents the ideal woman who has a modern wel-
come

39:16

who is at the same time a fantastic mother but who is also not a boring housewife,

39:21

who has all the qualities of lightness of mind , culture, who speaks all languages and who is open to every-
thing.

39:26

There aren't that many yet. But do you like women who are a bit emblematic, hieratic and distant? Yes,

39:31

I mean, it's because the press is talking about it. Do you have anonymous friends? Anonymous,

39:38

I don't know, but everyone has that . I hate anonymous people. Yes maybe no . You say that

39:48
you never get bored but it still happens that we see photos of you, I don't know, at the Red Cross ball,

39:53

in Monte-Carlo, next to Gina Lollobrigida. No, no, never. I love Gina Lollobrigida

39:59

which is very funny in life . I even photographed it . Do you ever get bored in this kind of place sometimes?

40:04

No, it 's a commonplace to say that we're bored there. No, I'm not bored because already ...

40:09

First, you are the one doing the animation. Exactly, and with the people I'm going with,

40:14

I'm not talking about Princess Carly but also the people, first of all her husband who I adore and find great.
You can kiss him.

40:19

funny , amusing people , who I adore and everything.

40:24

So, I'm already going there with friends. So, that is to say, you said one day,

40:30

I very quickly realized that I did not want to have any relationship with any human being . Yes,

40:35

but relationship is relationship, you have to get... I hear, intimate? Yes OK,

40:40

but there is a time for everything. I tell you, me now, I am like foodstuffs and medicines,

40:45

there is a deadline. So we forget. So which side are you on ?

40:50

of the deadline? These are topics that I no longer discuss. All right. I leave it to your imagination.

40:55

Do you mean... Do you mean it's a bit vulgar? A little vulgar, you mean?

41:00
Not vulgar, but still, it's still a kind of promiscuity . Oh,

41:05

Do you think sex is vulgar? Yes, to have sex, you have to be stuck together ,

41:10

No ? Ah, yes, oh well? Oh,

41:15

I am in pain. Ah good ? If you are sexual, don't try

41:20

sexuality à la St éphanie Berne, don't smear your body. Since we're talking. Since we're talking. Stéphane ,

41:25

I just wanted to ask, did that inspire the character of Peter Lord? No, the Peter Lord,

41:30

first of all, he's a poor, lost, sad thing, 1m40 and all, that's not exactly me.

41:35

mathematical cinema , there are heroes

41:40

which I perhaps prefer . _ So, you are someone so impressive that it's hard to

41:45

to imagine someone singing in front of you to insult you. But what a horrible expression. But do it,

41:50

This is a very good answer. No, I won't. But has this ever happened to you ?

41:55

Give us a little... You know, that's a really good question because I can't even answer and I do n't even re-
member .

42:00

Ah good ? So, that was a good question. So there is a young woman

42:05

who is elegant , who is distinguished, who only wears Chanel, it must be said. It exists,

42:10
there are apparently many of them. But there are many of them, yes. I ask you to now welcome a woman

42:15

who is femininity as you like it, it is Marie-Thé r è se Porchet. Chnupfel! Chnupfel!

42:21

But that's not true! Chnupfel! Chnupfel! Chnupfel! Chnupfel!

42:26

It is not possible ! It's not possible, that's what it is! Chnupfel! Chnupfel!

42:31

It's Carl! Someone could have warned me, I would have gotten dressed, look! You are very well dressed . _

42:36

Marie-Th é r è se Porchet, Carl Lagerfeld. Good evening, explain to me, I am delighted,

42:41

Good evening. Good evening, Sté phane, are you okay? Yes. Good,

42:46

you haven't seen Chnupfel? Chnupfel is a Swiss German. So what did they choose

42:51

to represent Switzerland at Eurovision? A German Switzerland! While I have a song

42:56

which is tailor-made for Eurovision, but it 's not going to happen the way it 's going to happen. No, that,

43:01

It's me who tells you. Chnupfel! Okay, is there a Swiss German in the room?

43:06

I don't know, it 's rare. No, because we always ask if there is a doctor ,

43:11

but no one ever thinks to ask if there is someone sick. But what connection? You know,

43:18

you know that the capital of Switzerland is Berne. Do you know Bern? Yes, I know.

43:23

Do you know the city of Bern? You don’t know the city of Bern? How does
43:28

Could I describe it to you? Have any of you ever fallen into a coma? SO,

43:33

it's almost the same thing , except that in Berne, you have almost no chance

43:38

to wake up. Hence the expression “putting the flag at half mast ” . Good,

43:43

Chnupfel! The all-natural, all- fetish squirrel, Chnupfel! Wait,

43:48

if you start speaking German, only Karl Lagerfeld can understand you. No no,

43:53

but it's not German. No, no, the Swiss Germans speak a language that no one understands

43:58

apart from them. It 's called Swiss German. It 's not very pretty phonetically .

44:03

Yes, yes, it's a bit like German, but spit . No,

44:08

It 's called Schweizerdeutsch. It's pretty, isn't it? Schweizerdeutsch. In German,

44:13

it looks like Schweizerdeutsch. The Bavarians and Austrians speak in one way

44:19

quite strange too. For example, in German, how are you? You say it

44:24

What are they? That's it ? What does it mean? While the German Swiss say

44:29

Who gott? Who gott? And when you're fine, you don't respond gut,

44:34

you answer gwett. Who gott? Gwett. Who gott?

Gwett. Who gott? Shall we try, Karl? Who gott?

44:44

his mouth dropping, looking quite disgusted like that . Gwett.

44:49

Gwett. Go ahead, gwett. Gwett. So. Gwett.

44:54

That means you're okay. You say you don't like German Swiss

44:59

and yet, Marie-Thé r è se is in love and your lover is Swiss German, right?

45:04

Ah yes, but then Rudy is not the same thing. His name is Rudy. Rudy.

45:09

He is tall, he is distinguished, he is tanned, graying. He is a species

45:14

by Karl Lagerfeld but without the tail. No, it's the German Swiss that I don't like.

45:19

Especially the one that stole my place at Eurovision. So, you know that I, Marie-Thé r è se Porsche,

45:24

I have a song that is tailor-made for Eurovision with a text. But a text,

45:29

do you want me to sing it? Oh yes, yes. So, I'm going to sing it to you. So, on the other hand, I took the
words

45:34

because it 's been a while, I'm afraid of forgetting them. Come on, music, let's go.

45:39

A heart, a tree, a bird. A heart, a tree,

45:50

it's beautiful. A tree, a bird, a heart, it really is

happiness. A heart, a tree, a bird. A heart,

46:08

a tree, a bird. Thank you, Marie-Thé r è se Porsche, Marie-Thé r è se Porsche,

46:25

in love. It’s at the Théâtre des Bouts Parisiens with our friend Jean-Claude Brié ly.

46:31

I kiss you, here it is . I'm coming to give you a little kiss. See you soon . If you see Schnuffeld,

46:36

you send it to me in my dressing room. Good bye, sir. Good luck for Eurovision. Bye. Bye Madam.

46:48

I swore to my mother that I would never be on a show where people act like that behind the scenes , but oh
well.

46:53

But hey, it failed. That said, Karl Lagerfeld, it's true that you had the habit, all the same , in interviews,

46:58

to say, let's say, what you think about everyone. I always say it here. I hate

47:03

the politically correct in hypocrisy. It's true, for example, about the rich, it's true that you said,

47:08

yes, you don't like rich people who live beyond their means. We don't care about the rich. We do not care.

47:13

Galiano, for example, what he thinks about it. Do you know John Galiano? Alright . _

47:18

Yes, he's the one who tears his clothes , right ? Yes, but it's funny. He has a lot of talent.

47:23

I think he's very funny and I know him well before the Dior era and everything . He was very ... He's your
disciple, right?

47:28

He is your disciple. No, it's the opposite of me. No, there is one who is a bit like you, who is in Sils,
47:34

it's Eddie Slimane who has a lot of talent, who takes care of people. But it's something else. This is also our
approach,

47:39

our spirit, our generation . There is no assimilation. I like what he does, I like the person,

47:44

I find the spirit interesting and everything, but there is no mimicry of any kind. I'm against.

47:49

Everything that looks like me is satanic . And Pierre Cardin, for example, what if I tell you Pierre Cardin? I
do not know,

47:54

I don't know much, I don't know, I can't figure that out for the rest of my life. But yes, yes, yes!

47:59

He can consider himself immortal since he was elected to the Academy of Fine Arts thanks to his patents

48:04

of supermarket tights. He has some, so we can't say that... But it's not very nice .

48:09

Am I here to be nice ? Does he only say nice things? Because I,

48:14

people always tell me, ah, you said that , you said that . But we don't quote what others have said.

48:19

So it's a bit one-sided because I have the guts to make Catherine Deneuve believe, she gets paid

48:25

to say good things about the St. Lawrence. There , there was a trial because there was an invented interview

48:30

which did not exist that the newspaper Le Monde bought. It's more interesting on Coco Chanel, for example.

48:35

She was meaner than me. Was she meaner than you? It's possible ? You've never seen

48:40
the film by Jacques Chazot? Yes, she was terrible. But that said... I really like it because of that.

48:45

Do you like him because of his meanness? It's funny , I hate false kindness.

48:51

It's unbearable. It's easy to ask him what he thinks about lots of other people. What do you think

48:56

from St éphane, for example? He is extremely friendly . It's sad, isn't it? Another failed show. I knew her

49:01

in Mont écarle, in addition. But what I like is when you say, for example, that you assume

49:06

what you are . You say, I like to be called superficial.

49:11

But I love it, because imagine the boredom of all these people you know as well as I do

49:16

which display a kind of culture where we don't scratch. It 's very difficult. That I am very cultured ,

49:21

educated, that I speak all the languages, that I know lots of things, OK, it's for my personal use.

49:26

But for a real age , it's excruciating. Listen, this show is a tribute

49:31

career a little through some photos. I will tell you

49:36

a little bit about your career as I see it. We do too often

49:41

the error of considering that you were born with one, or even two silver spoons in your mouth,

49:46

which explains your speech and that your existence was , a little like that

49:51

of the optician Alain Aflelou, a sort of royal road to success . But I never said that.
49:56

It's the book that says that . While you too have eaten mad beef Stroganoff and unlike

50:01

to the legend of the spoiled little Lagerfeld , it's because you weren't good at prostitution

50:06

that you didn't end up on the sidewalk. We see here that your beginnings were not so promising

50:11

since your first fashion show ended with a pie from Mathilda, your star model at the time.

50:17

She will later claim to the police officers who questioned her that your dresses were cheap and poorly fini-
shed.

50:22

The year is 1965. Fortunately, you are in good company. Your photographer and friend Horst,

50:27

famous , madeover by you , supports you when you need it

50:32

most needed. It's a difficult time . But finally, there are his photos.

50:37

You are full of doubts and you even think about giving up on fashion. You try to do

50:42

an industry boss. You are launching a Bavarian - themed mini-golf chain .

50:47

Alas , Inge, the press officer seen here in the photo ,

50:52

leaves with the fund to have her breasts done in the Bahamas. And then,

50:57

Catherine is coming into your life. She is your muse. Your senses are inflamed. She is Slovak.

51:02

She is beautiful. She laughs. She teaches you how to do the little dog swim.
51:07

You experience moments of unadulterated happiness. Catherine talks to you about children,

51:12

holidays in Saint-Jean-de-Luz, family break and F4 in Yvelines. This painting

51:17

hides an atrocious reality . For a week, she locks herself in with a giant pot

51:22

of Nutella. This is what you find. There , your beliefs crumble

51:27

and the whole relationship with others, with elegance , changes . You need

51:32

of air. You open your door wide. This is Karl Lagerfeld late.

51:37

You are looking for yourself and in looking for yourself, sometimes you get lost. Your dwarf friends,

51:42

your friends call girls, Chinese restaurant owners have fun at your expense. You party with balloons.

51:47

Always balloons. Always more balloons. One evening, while the balloons are all put away ,

51:52

the vomit and confetti are swept away, a voice echoes in the pale dawn .

51:57

Victorio Mayer, the angel of looks, the patron saint of elegance , the man with a thousand hairs and concep-
tual ties

52:02

said “for there is no elegance in life. »

52:07

The conceptual man with a thousand hairs says “ Carl, finished the comedy. Let's change your destiny
Chanel. »

52:12
Like you, he was multilingual. He asks you to makeover a couple of models

52:17

polish from his stable. It is there , in the choice of these materials, these colors,

52:22

of these cuts, these volumes and these harmonies that everyone finally glimpses

52:27

your pure genius. This is the beginning of success . The Lagerfeld star is growing in the fashion firmament.

52:32

Your survival instinct is heightened. You become a real wolf. After having dressed ,

52:38

you undress, you make and break fashions. You even revamp the writer Amélie Notombe .

52:49

A sign that all circles have adopted you, from Diana Vreeland to Elisa Tovati. It's just a big cry of love

52:55

for you and your creations. This is confirmed by a wealthy golf client who is ready to go all out. We will re-
cognize it here

53:01

the singer of the group The Mustaphas at the Al-Qa ï da Music Awards. Never has your talent been in such
demand

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only for this model . Everyone knows that it is very difficult to dress a myopic woman in these countries .

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Wunderbar, Karl. Thank you, Ariel. Tell us, there are some things that are true. It was less fun

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only that . We came to ask you to give people a makeover. Has this happened to you? Yes, often.

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Famous people? Or that they needed to be better known. Politicians, for example?

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Yes, but I 'm very discreet . I'm like the tenaciers of Maison-Clause. There are things

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that we don't say. Oh yes ? So give us a secret. No no no. No, but the next trend,

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what color should we wear for the next trends? It depends on what we do. In what use? For us, for example,

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for Ariel, dress him up. Dark is better than light, but you are all dark or more or less dark .

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Clear should be avoided. Beige ones, if you want Yes, that's true. We need it, maybe . You say that creation

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that you would have loved to do is the white shirt. Yes, that's true, that 's it. People, when we ask what they
would have wanted,

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they say jeans. Me no. It's the white shirt. I find it to be the essential garment

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and essential and the basis of everything. And what would you ultimately like people to remember about
you? That 's the same .

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I won't be there at , so. Do you care? Yes yes. You know, at the moment, we can, for example,

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download any from the Internet . People want things much cheaper and almost free today.

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How do you take the fact that all fashions are immediately copied 10 minutes later , much, much cheaper ?

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Already , Chanel was for that . So, I find that , by the way, quite healthy. But for the world of records, it's
more serious than for fashion.

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Because for fashion, a quality garment made in a certain way cannot be imitated much cheaper.

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A disc can be copied in 3 seconds. So, it's not the same problem at all . In fashion,

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It’s serious and not serious. That means that we did it right and that we wanted it , that we made people want
it. But the original and the copy,

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it is rarely the same thing . And in fashion, it's something else. Buy, go to the store,

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it's like a pretty place, the packaging, the reception, everything, that plays a role too. You go to a big fair to
buy records

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or in the... I don't want to name anyone. It's in the bins and we tell you, hey, it's in the bins over there .

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It's not the same pleasure either. So in this vanity fair where everyone wants to be someone

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and buy something, some women are angry with Sté phane Bern's white, petticoat body.

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They see his heart too. These are the young girls from the Bern Academy. Let's see what they did. 4 single
girls

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with Anne Nwina, Jessica, Kim and Ad è le Muguet. They are filmed

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24 hours a day with 112 cameras . Their dream in life, to seduce St éphane Bern. For that,

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they must prove themselves at the Bern Academy . This is the first time we see a young girl

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from the Bern Academy on stage . This is the first time we see a young girl

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from the Bern Academia Today is a great day! Ad è le Lily of the Valley for Saint Lily of the Valley will re-
ceive a visit

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of his twin brother , Antoine Esp érance. You two don't look much alike for twins! What!

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We are fraternal twins. We were not part of the same egg . On the other hand, my real twin,
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I devoured it during my womb life ! Ah… Fortunately you didn't eat your brother !

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It would have been a shame for him. I was attacking the right hemisphere of his brain

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when our mother gave birth . Who? Have you ever gone out with a girl? What is a girl?

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A girl is verlan, she's a woman. What is a woman? Hey !

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Do you know the Dalai Lama ? Serge Lama ’s brother ? Good. So you see, in Buddhism,

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the bodies of the animal world and particularly the human world have been reincarnated , you see ?

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I had a reincarnated name . Freshen up. Obviously, the relationship which unites

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Ad è le Muguet and Antoine Espérance are very strong . I have a gift for you. It's a drawing.

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That 's you in 50 years when you'll die of cancer.

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Thank you, it ’s very pretty. And that 's you when you 're crushed

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by a high-speed train and carnivorous slugs will eat your heart out. Oh, it's beautiful.

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I'll make you another one, if you want. The other academicians also integrated Antoine Espérance well .

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He should stay with us, Antoine Espérance. Yeah, it’s true that it’s super light. Moreover,

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he is clean. Look, look, look, you bastards .

Come on. Tomorrow, will Antoine Espérance still be in Bernac?

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You will see him at 8:40 p.m. in the Bern Academy . This is what awaits me, if I set foot there. Fortunately
there is no

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a Lagerfeld Academy . At least we would learn to sew and cut fabric. And to speak.

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You know, I heard you talking. I realized that you are very effective in speaking.

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You're talking about Ps and Ts. For example, small potatoes. As soon as there are Ps and Ts... I don't speak
any language properly.

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Because... You speak German perfectly. Yes, but French too ,

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if you want, English too. But it's a mix of everything. In fact, I don't even hear the difference.

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It's a kind of fog like that . And it was your mother who told you to speak so quickly. Yes, because I'm tal-
king bullshit.

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But it doesn't make sense. So, Karl Lagerfeld, what advice do you give if you want to lose weight?

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Vomit, vomit, vomit. No no. I don't induce vomiting. I really don't do that . Especially not.

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I do not do. Thank you Karl Lagerfeld. When we see the cover of your book, it makes me want to be like
you. And you will give us your dry shampoo

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to have the... No, that 's... What 's it called? Chlorane. But you want to have white hair?

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No, I don't want to have white hair. Ah, but that 's what it is... Otherwise, bleach is good.

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Yes. No, I do that because my hair is gray and not white enough.

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And you never know a shower? Yes, I wash my hair. But in this case, I can curl afterwards . It does not fit
me.

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So, school , where do we go to school? There are people who do that. It exists.

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Their name, their address. It's not the address of the head but it 's happening. We do not advertise to them .

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These tips are very valuable . Thank you Karl Lagerfeld for coming to bring them to us on the 8:10 p.m. set.

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P being. Thank you for being with us. Now it's time to talk to Karl Lagerfeld about it.

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Now it's time to reset your watches . 8:10 p.m. Fart aunt.

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Revere its ports.