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The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde
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it was amazing

Oh Dorian. Oh Dorian.

When I first read this book in the fruitless years of my youth I was excited, overwhelmed and a blank slate (as Dorian is, upon his first encounter with Lord Henry) easily molded, persuaded, influenced, etc.

Certain Wildisms (Wildeisms?) would take my breath away. Would become my mottos to believe in. To follow. To live.

Lines like:

"It is silly of you, for there is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about."

"But beauty, real beauty, ends where an intellectual expression begins. Intellect is in itself a mode of exaggeration, and destroys the harmony of any face."

"If they know nothing of victory, they are at least spared the knowledge of defeat."

"Genius lasts longer than Beauty. That accounts for the fact that we all take such pains to over-educate ourselves. In the wild struggle for existence, we want to have something that endures, and so we fill our minds with rubbish and facts, in the silly hope of keeping our place."

"You know more than you think you know, just as you know less than you want to know."

Re-reading this masterpiece and coming upon these highlighted lines was possibly more interesting than the book this time. Why had I highlighted these lines? Do they still mean the same thing to me, as they did when I first took note of them, enough to highlight them? I still love all of those lines. But no longer feel so strongly for them.

Now these are lines that stick out still to me. Or were newly underlined on the second pass through. New Wildisms to mold me.

"Oh, I can't explain. When I like people immensely I never tell their names to any one. It is like surrendering a part of them. I have grown to love secrecy. It seems to be the one thing that can make modern life mysterious or marvelous to us. The commonest thing is delightful if one only hides it. When I leave town now I never tell my people where I am going. If I did, I would lose all my pleasure. It is a silly habit, I dare say, but somehow it seems to bring a great deal of romance into one's life. I suppose you think me awfully foolish about it?"

"Yes; she is a peacock in everything but beauty."

"Laughter is not at all a bad beginning for a friendship, and it is far the best ending for one."

"I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their good intellects."

"Ah! this Morning! You have lived since then."

"what brings you out so early? I thought you dandies never got up till two, and were not visible till five." --A new personal favorite. That I follow very seriously.

"She behaves as if she was beautiful. Most American women do. It is the secret of their charm."

'He thought for a moment. "Can you remember any great error that you committed in your early days, Duchess?" he asked, looking at her across the table.
"A great many, I fear," she cried.
"Then commit them over again," he said, gravely. "To get back one's youth one has merely to repeat one's follies."
"A delightful theory!" she exclaimed. " I must put it into practice."

"Besides, each time that one loves is the only time one has ever loved. Difference of object does not alter singleness of passion."

It turns out that all of these quotes occur in the first 45 pages, except that last one which is right near the end. And it seems most of my reviews end up being mostly quotes from the book itself, but I figure this is what shaped and informed my reading, so I want to share it with all of you. What do you think of it all?

That said, poor Sybil Vane! Poor James Vane! Poor Basil Hallward! Shit, even poor old Lord Henry Wotton! And Dorian! Oh Dorian! Lead the life you did and for what?

That's all I am going to say about the book. I don't think I shall read Against Nature, for fear of being seduced like Dorian.

If you're tired of this review or just tired in general, stop now and come back later. I am going to include two more quotes from the book that truly fucked me up. So much I had to read them at least 3 times in a row. And then transcribe them here for you. The last section, thats the one that did it. Beautiful.

Here goes:

"There is no such thing as a good influence, Mr. Gray. All influence is immoral-immoral from the scientific point of view."
"Why?"
"Because to influence a person is to give him one's own soul. He does not think his natural thoughts, or burn with his natural passions. His virtues are not real to him. His sins, if there are such things as sins, are borrowed. He becomes an echo of some one else's music, an actor of a part that has not been written for him. The aim of life is self-development. To realize one's nature perfectly-that is what each of us is here for. People are afraid of themselves nowadays. They have forgotten the highest of all duties, the duty that one owes to one's self. Of course they are charitable. They feed the hungry and cloth the beggar. But their own souls starve, and are naked. Courage has gone out of our race. Perhaps we never really had it. The terror of society, which is the basis of morals; the terror of God, which is the secret of religion-these are the two things that govern us. And yet-"
"And yet," continues Lord Henry, in his low, musical voice,"I believe that if one man were to live out his life fully and completely, were to give form to every feeling, expression to every thought, reality to every dream-I believe that the world would gain such a fresh impulse of joy that we would forget all the maladies of mediaevalism, and return to the Hellenic ideal-to something finer, richer than the Hellenic ideal, it may be. But the bravest man among us is afraid of himself. The mutilation of the savage has its tragic survival in the self-denial that mars our lives. We are punished for our refusals. Every impulse that we strive to strangle broods in the mind and poisons us. The body sins once, and has done with its sins, for action is a mode of purification. Nothing remains then but the recollection of a pleasure, or the luxury of a regret. The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. Resist it, and your soul grows sick with longing for the things it has forbidden to itself, with desire for what its monstrous laws have made monstrous and unlawful. It has been said that the great events of the world take place in the brain. It is in the brain, and the brain only, that the great sins of the world take place also. You, Mr. Gray, you yourself, with your rose-red youth and your rose-white boyhood, you have had passions that have made you afraid, thoughts that have filled you with terror, day-dreams and sleeping dreams whose mere memory might stain your cheek with shame-"
"Stop!" faltered Dorian Gray, "stop! you bewilder me. I don't know what to say. There is some answer to you, but I cannot find it. Don't speak. Let me think, or, rather, let me try not to think."

Whew.
And:

"There are few of us who have not sometimes wakened before dawn, either after one of those dreamless nights that make us almost enamored of death, or one of those nights of horror and misshapen joy, when through the chambers of the brain sweep phantoms more terrible than reality itself, and instinct with that vivid life that lurks in all grotesques, and that lends to Gothic art its enduring vitality, this art being, one might fancy, especially the art of those who minds have been troubled with the malady of reverie. Gradually white fingers creep through the curtains, and they appear to tremble. In black, fantastic shapes, dumb shadows crawl into the corners of the room, and crouch there. Outside, there is the stirring of the birds among the leaves, or the sound of men going forth to their work, or the sigh and sob of the wind coming down from the hills and wandering round the silent house, as though it feared to wake the sleeper, and yet must needs call forth Sleep from her purple cave. Veil after veil of thin, dusky gauze is lifted, and by degrees the forms and colors of things are restored to them, and we watch the dawn remaking the world in its antique pattern. The wan mirrors get back their mimic life. The flameless tapers stand where we had left them, and beside them lies the half-cut book that we had been studying, or the wired flower that we had worn at the ball, or the letter we had been afraid to read, or that we had read too often. Nothing seems to us changed. Out of the unreal shadows of the night comes back the real life that we had known. We have to resume it where we had left off, and there steals over us a terrible sense of the necessity for the continuance of energy in the same wearisome round of stereotyped habits, or a wild longing, it may be, that our eyelids might open some morning upon a world that had been refashioned anew in the darkness for our pleasure, a world in which things would have fresh shapes and colors, and be changed, or have other secrets, a world in which the past would have little or no place, or survive, at any rate, in no conscious form of obligation or regret, the remembrance even of joy having its bitterness, and the memories of pleasure their pain."

Yep.


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message 1: by Xio (new) - rated it 4 stars

Xio "The mutilation of the savage has its tragic survival in the self-denial that mars our lives. We are punished for our refusals. Every impulse that we strive to strangle broods in the mind and poisons us. The body sins once, and has done with its sins, for action is a mode of purification. Nothing remains then but the recollection of a pleasure, or the luxury of a regret."

Speaking of youth...I have this part written out on the top of some papers I found from when I was much younger (say in late adolescence) and hadn't credited them to an author. It was nagging-- to say the least-- not to recall who wrote them. Thank you!

To me, it is precisely in the articulation of these thoughts (the final two sections you quote) where Wilde is creditable for genius. The other pieces are fun and insightful but are too easily dismissed to resonate in any subversive manner. These latter excerpts are much more sinister, don't you think? Much more exciting.




message 2: by Tosh (new)

Tosh Oscar Wilde just had 'it.' The English language was invented for his 'devilish' purposes.


Jason i guess that's pretty much the only way to write a review of this damn book. Is to cut it up Bartletts.

The quotes are amazing though. A story in their own, in each line: "Laughter is not at all a bad beginning for a friendship, and it is far the best ending for one."

What a sad line! Too bad they're all lost in the headache of nonchalant wit. It's like being trapped inside of a pretty fortune cookie factory.


deliabookworm Those flowery speeches were what I didn`t like about the book.


message 5: by Alex (last edited Aug 24, 2009 10:16PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Alex I find it hard to believe that only your youth was fruitless if you are still only getting up at 2 and not getting about until 4. Sounds like your whole life is fruitless especially if you are willing to take in hook line and sinker that first longer paragraph.

Its a well written book but living by the witticisms of Henry the Arch tempter sounds like a good way to end up not only looking like the portrait but having a soul so soiled and wretched that would make rotten maggot infested flesh look charming in comparison.

The part about influencing a person is empty flowery language devoid of any scientific, psychological, anthropological, philosophical or spiritual meaning.

'Sin is a mode of purification'- what a load of horse shit. Only by controling ones animal urges can one truly be free. A self willed man or woman of self control is the highest state of man. Do you actually believe that becoming a slave to your desires lifts you up to some higher state. What he speaks of is no Hellenic ideal it is not even an ideal it is the total lack of ideal.




message 6: by Amy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Amy Pearson Alex wrote: "I find it hard to believe that only your youth was fruitless if you are still only getting up at 2 and not getting about until 4. Sounds like your whole life is fruitless especially if you are will..."

i don't believe the author shared the hedonistic beliefs of the characters in his book he is simply showcasing the consequences of the most disgusting human quality creating over exaggerations to more effectively drive the moral home. the whole thing i find magical about fiction is that it is mere overexaggeration for the point of making people see things more quickly and efficiently. non fiction can be tedious, it's easier to become absorbed into a fictional story and keep interest longer in order to actually get to the moral. if the author actually shared the beliefs of dorian and lord henry why would he make it so dorian destroys himself in the end what would have been the point?


Baileyruth I liked this review almost as much as I liked the book!


Amanda L A just contrast to the above (deficient) account.


message 9: by Ekta (new)

Ekta All my fav lines are here! and i too have highlighted the same in my copy of the book! am over-whelmed!


message 10: by Lena (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lena Tumasyan You pulled a lot of great quotes! They all stood out so well, esp ""It is silly of you, for there is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." "


Jennifer Although you have gather almost all my favorite lines out of this book, the one I feel that is missing is:

"Nothing makes one so vain as being told one is a sinner. Conscience makes egotists of us all."


Sarah McConnaughey I absolutely love your choice of quotes from this beautiful story!


Eilidh McDonald wow! it's been a while since i read the books, but reading these quotes made me remember exactly how i felt about it. you managed to pick nearly all of my favourite quotes...damn, i feel so unorigional, thinking these were my faves and mine alone..


Apurv Srivastava As it was, we always misunderstood ourselves, and rarely understood others. Experience was of no ethical value. It was merely the name men gave to their mistakes. Moralists had, as a rule, regarded it as a mode of warning, had claimed for it a certain ethical efficacy in the formation of character, had praised it as something that taught us what to follow and showed us what to avoid. But there was no motive power in experience. It was as little of an active cause as conscience itself. All that it really demonstrated was that our future would be the same as our past, and that the sin we had done once, and with loathing, we would do many times, and with joy.



Yep.


message 15: by T. (new) - rated it 5 stars

T. Wrage I read this book long ago, I am new here and I was asked to vote for, "Best Horror Books by People Other Than Stephen King". Now there was quite a list, but this incredible book was not listed on it. I placed it there as it sent chills through me years ago, and now reading all your quotes I know I must read it again. I know it is not horror in today's standards but for me I find peoples life decisions to sometime be the most terrifying. Thank you for this review stunning!


message 16: by Eman (new) - rated it 5 stars

Eman Great selections.. The lines you quote are simply wonderful.. The whole thing from cover to cover is worthy to be quoted.


Niveen Ghanem I really like your review, I almost highlighted same quotes and must one that lived and ruined me as well the influence long part. great book I really enjoy reading it.. now I am looking forward to watch every play or movie done..


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David what's the meaning of purple cave?


Ansley Davis Your quotes were phenomenal choices


message 20: by Anna (new) - rated it 4 stars

Anna ❤❤❤


message 21: by Puja (new) - rated it 4 stars

Puja I loved this review!


message 22: by Joe (new) - rated it 4 stars

Joe One of the cleverest books I've ever read. Great review and great quotes.


message 23: by [deleted user] (new)

I agree! Wilde has so many fantastic quotes in this book. Whether it be clever tongue-in-cheek humor or intriguing aphorisms, he really pulls through with resounding quotes. Though quite dark in some instances, his quotes are rather relatable for most people. I would say they expose human nature and the deep desires that we all secretly possess. Personally, one of my favorite quotes of the entire novel is “there is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.” The quote can easily to relate to many people in the world, and perhaps I can secretly apply it to my own life. Like Wilde, I can also be quite the dramatist.


Kimber Silver I love your choice of quotes! Fantastic review!


Lucia Totally a book of selfishness and vanity. It is so hard to believe that people exist like this!! And this is the 19 th century. Certainly, there is nothing new ....


Mrunmayi Those lines are also among my favourites. Doing a series of them this month on my insta @wordstheywrote


Julia M I find myself reading this again. Like you, I read this book in my youth. I was caught in the romanticism of his fierce beauty and savage nature. Now I am finding Dorian somewhat tedious. Don't get me wrong, the writing I still find it be to lyrical but subject matter??? I don't know.


Timothy An incredible and really complex book. I have to read it again before forming an opinion. Those Lord Henry one-liners though...!!


Andrew That very last quote you mentioned is SO. GOOD. I haven’t read many classics but reading this one has me just shocked at how the human experience can be so similar to what we can be experiencing today that people were experiencing in the 1800s!! Like it’s amazing.


Cadie Jordan This has been sitting on my bookshelf for years, and this review sent it to the top of my list. My formative years (a perhaps dangerous time for me to have taken it in) are behind me, and I’m anxious to see the whole picture, no pun intended.


message 31: by Dave (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dave Jeje I loved the book, wasn't expecting the destiny of the sailor. However, even if you can infere what Dorian felt at the end I would have loved a detailed description, like the ones you get when you read about his obsessions (gems, textiles, etc)


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Emily Freed Thank you for these lovely quotes


Gabibeebeee You couldn’t have put it better, I have such an attachment to this book for some reason! Personal favourite.


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message 35: by Kay (new) - rated it 3 stars

Kay Inglis I love the quotes, especially your quote, "in the fruitless years of my you." Beautiful review! I'm hooked and will read the book.


message 36: by Dawn (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dawn This book had so many quotable phrases. The part about choosing enemies for their intellect was *chefs kiss*.


message 37: by Gemma (new) - added it

Gemma This review was perfect! I am about to read the book and i was looking for some thoughts. Great observation


Joana Loved this review and the sincerity of it. Seemed to me like buying a second-hand book and trying to figuring out what the former owner was like, which were their values, how did they perceive life. The first long quote you put there even made me see Lord Henry with other eyes. For me, he was Devil himself. Now, re-reading that quote, it made me think that he is - at times - quite similar to someone from the last book I read - mr. Ivan Karamazov, from The Karamazov Brothers, by Fiodor Dostoievski.

Such a great review that makes one deepen more into Dorian Gray's soul. Thank you!


Stinky Whizzleteets Alex wrote: Do you actually believe that becoming a slave to your desires lifts you up to some higher state.

I read this entire introductory passage in the book as one big foreshadowing event. That Dorian is young and gullible, malleable, and the old geezer he's taking to is an embodiment of, how did you say it, empty flowery language... Dorian is enamoured with this guy's charm, but the point is, he's not saying anything of consequence. Dorian just takes it that way. Dorian takes this charming rando's words and absorbs them, and there you have the book; what would happen if all the airheads spouting meaningless quips actually bade their own professions themselves.


Helen Hollis I completely hated Lord Henry.Most of your quotes are things he said I think. what a pompous ass.


message 41: by Harlow (new) - added it

Harlow Listening now. . . Surprised I’ve never read Wilde’s only novel.

“What do you think of it all?”

Quotes are also what stays with me.

I stopped before “here goes:”


TwoHeadedLamb are you secretly dorian? (the way you talk about this book seems like how he would describe a book he loved lol)


message 43: by KellyD (new)

KellyD Harlow, I stopped even before that. The quotes mean different things to different people of course, but IMO aren't anywhere near as profound as this reviewer seemed to think.


Alessandra Honrada Why is this review so beautifully written


Elena Barreto lol


Carrie Butterfield I'd totally do Dorian. He's like so sexy.


Annabelle Cleeves I do him too, like totally.


message 48: by Sals (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sals These were the EXACT two paragraphs that I loved the most😭and you’ve highlighted everything I’ve highlighted🤣what a beautifully written book


message 49: by Beau (new) - rated it 5 stars

Beau Smith Alex wrote: "I find it hard to believe that only your youth was fruitless if you are still only getting up at 2 and not getting about until 4. Sounds like your whole life is fruitless especially if you are will..." Sin is a mode of purification Well, yeah , but it's not preaching that. You sort of missed the point of the book.


message 50: by Beau (new) - rated it 5 stars

Beau Smith Elena Barreto wrote: "lol" funny


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