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The Thousand Autumns of Jacob de Zoet
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THE APPRENTICE
WEEK 6 - THE SEMI-FINAL
Voiceover : Lord Sugar is looking for a historical novelist to invest in. He scoured the country for the very best. Twelve were selected to begin the process. After six weeks of hard battling, only three are left.* It's the Apprentice Week Six!
(We see a montage of the three remaining contestants, David Mitchell, Hilary Mantel and Sarah Waters frantically typing away on laptops).
This week's task : to write a complete historical novel in only seven days. All the sleepless nights, wrecked marriages and substance addictions have come down to this. The novels are written, and Lord Sugar's verdict is in.
He has sat through all three power-point presentations.
He has cross-checked certain details with Wikipedia.
He has read all three books.
Hilary, Sarah and David are back in the boardroom.
One of them will be fired tonight.
Lord Sugar speaks
I've had a chance to look through your novels and I gotta say I got a few problems. I'd say there's a fair amount of waffle going on. I'm a businessman and I can tell you you can't build a business empire on waffle. I like things to be plain and simple. That's the way I am. All this fancy pants stuff is not where I'm coming from. This one here, Hilary, this is yours isn't it, A Place of Greater Safety. I mean… with the best will in the world it's very long, there's a lot of words in it. I got that it's about the French revolution, I did get that far, you'll be relieved to know. But all that yapping. I had problems with that.
Sarah, yours I thought was okay – Fingersmith, good title. The story zipped along, I liked that. But you seem to have to drag lesbians into everything and I'm not sure the public particularly wants lesbians all over. You don't see market stalls piled high with lesbians do you.
(Sarah shakes head & looks abashed.)
So I had a few problems there. David, yours was very smart, all those ten dollar words, I could feel your brains throbbin away when I read it but… it didn't have much energy. You might think that of the three this thousand Autumns of whats his name would appeal to me, because the first part is about business, and it must have been very interestin to be the first lot of businessmen who made contact with Japan and got a monopoly on all of the import export of a whole country… Very interesting. That appealed to me. I could see the frustrations of having poor auditing and no phones. But this thing about that midwife? Nah. It was old hat. I seen it before a million times. It was in South pacific, same thing. Did you see that musical? (David shakes head.) Well you shoulda seen it before you put pen to paper. So that went nowhere fast. I must say I came up the hard way and I haven't had the luxury of yearning for Japanese midwives.
So this was a difficult decision, as you know one of you will be leaving the process tonight. You've done well to get through to the semi-final. Don't let anyone take that away from you. So hmm. Er… I have come to a decision. You may think you are creatin … what do they call it – literature but you still need to get bums on pages, to coin a phrase. You have to sell to Joe Public and not just to Miss Josephine Public. If you get my drift. So, with regret, David Mitchell, you're fired.
* Previous rounds split the historical novelists into two teams, who would compete on a particular task. Previous tasks included
- describe a day in the life of Genghiz Khan
- write a mini-series for television starting from the premise that when the two maries visited the tomb they discovered the Jesus was a robot
- run a bookshop for a week using gibbons as shop assistants
Week six is the semi-final
WEEK 6 - THE SEMI-FINAL
Voiceover : Lord Sugar is looking for a historical novelist to invest in. He scoured the country for the very best. Twelve were selected to begin the process. After six weeks of hard battling, only three are left.* It's the Apprentice Week Six!
(We see a montage of the three remaining contestants, David Mitchell, Hilary Mantel and Sarah Waters frantically typing away on laptops).
This week's task : to write a complete historical novel in only seven days. All the sleepless nights, wrecked marriages and substance addictions have come down to this. The novels are written, and Lord Sugar's verdict is in.
He has sat through all three power-point presentations.
He has cross-checked certain details with Wikipedia.
He has read all three books.
Hilary, Sarah and David are back in the boardroom.
One of them will be fired tonight.
Lord Sugar speaks
I've had a chance to look through your novels and I gotta say I got a few problems. I'd say there's a fair amount of waffle going on. I'm a businessman and I can tell you you can't build a business empire on waffle. I like things to be plain and simple. That's the way I am. All this fancy pants stuff is not where I'm coming from. This one here, Hilary, this is yours isn't it, A Place of Greater Safety. I mean… with the best will in the world it's very long, there's a lot of words in it. I got that it's about the French revolution, I did get that far, you'll be relieved to know. But all that yapping. I had problems with that.
Sarah, yours I thought was okay – Fingersmith, good title. The story zipped along, I liked that. But you seem to have to drag lesbians into everything and I'm not sure the public particularly wants lesbians all over. You don't see market stalls piled high with lesbians do you.
(Sarah shakes head & looks abashed.)
So I had a few problems there. David, yours was very smart, all those ten dollar words, I could feel your brains throbbin away when I read it but… it didn't have much energy. You might think that of the three this thousand Autumns of whats his name would appeal to me, because the first part is about business, and it must have been very interestin to be the first lot of businessmen who made contact with Japan and got a monopoly on all of the import export of a whole country… Very interesting. That appealed to me. I could see the frustrations of having poor auditing and no phones. But this thing about that midwife? Nah. It was old hat. I seen it before a million times. It was in South pacific, same thing. Did you see that musical? (David shakes head.) Well you shoulda seen it before you put pen to paper. So that went nowhere fast. I must say I came up the hard way and I haven't had the luxury of yearning for Japanese midwives.
So this was a difficult decision, as you know one of you will be leaving the process tonight. You've done well to get through to the semi-final. Don't let anyone take that away from you. So hmm. Er… I have come to a decision. You may think you are creatin … what do they call it – literature but you still need to get bums on pages, to coin a phrase. You have to sell to Joe Public and not just to Miss Josephine Public. If you get my drift. So, with regret, David Mitchell, you're fired.
* Previous rounds split the historical novelists into two teams, who would compete on a particular task. Previous tasks included
- describe a day in the life of Genghiz Khan
- write a mini-series for television starting from the premise that when the two maries visited the tomb they discovered the Jesus was a robot
- run a bookshop for a week using gibbons as shop assistants
Week six is the semi-final
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Relax Paul, don't get tense.
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Historical present
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In linguistics and rhetoric, the historical present (also called dramatic present or narrative present) refers to the employment of the present tense when narrating past events. Besides its use in writing about history, especially in historical chronicles (listing a series of events), it is used in fiction, for 'hot news' (as in headlines), and in everyday conversation (Huddleston & Pullum 2002: 129-131). In conversation, it is particularly common with 'verbs of communication' such as tell, write, and say (and in colloquial uses, go) (Leech 2002: 7).
Literary critics and grammarians have said that the historical present has the effect of making past events more vivid.
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In linguistics and rhetoric, the historical present (also called dramatic present or narrative present) refers to the employment of the present tense when narrating past events. Besides its use in writing about history, especially in historical chronicles (listing a series of events), it is used in fiction, for 'hot news' (as in headlines), and in everyday conversation (Huddleston & Pullum 2002: 129-131). In conversation, it is particularly common with 'verbs of communication' such as tell, write, and say (and in colloquial uses, go) (Leech 2002: 7).
Literary critics and grammarians have said that the historical present has the effect of making past events more vivid.
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no, I haven't.. just crawled my way to page 100 last night. But I am finding it completely putdownable.
now on page 150, crawling like a crippled turtle with an asthma attack, I wonder if this isn't just too tiresome, I hate giving up big well liked novels
Paul wrote: "now on page 150, crawling like a crippled turtle with an asthma attack, I wonder if this isn't just too tiresome, I hate giving up big well liked novels"
Are you kidding? That's the niche you've been working here on Goodreads since Underworld.
Is it just the present tense or is there something else particularly difficult about it?
Are you kidding? That's the niche you've been working here on Goodreads since Underworld.
Is it just the present tense or is there something else particularly difficult about it?
Jesus, dude! Just give up on it already. Ask yourself "well liked by who(m)"? This one screamed boredom at me in the bookstore, from the author's interview on the radio, from every fawning review I've ever read of it ...
Why torture yourself? Life is too short. Go read Ali Smith's latest, or something. Based on its title alone, this is clearly a book to be flung aside with great force. (thanks, Dorothy)
Why torture yourself? Life is too short. Go read Ali Smith's latest, or something. Based on its title alone, this is clearly a book to be flung aside with great force. (thanks, Dorothy)
David - yeah, true, but I'm trying to stop hating big modish novels, it's getting so i daren't review them here, people will say - huh, that guy, he used to be okay but now he just hates everything published after 1970 - Stephen - there are two strands in the first 150 pages - strands, wisps of narrative, nothing you could call an actual plot - one is our hero investigating the frauds perpetrated on the Dutch East indies Company at their Japanese depot and the other whereby our hero falls for a Japanese midwife which is a big deal - neither strand is what i would call gripping, both are what I would call slightly dull in fact. Otherwise DM writes very well and has done a vast amount of homework.
Otherwise DM writes very well and has done a vast amount of homework.
I think he lets that overwhelm the other aspects of storytelling—like plot, thematic movement, sometimes character.
Certainly some more threads pick up along the way, but nothing drastically different from where you're at now. I think if Mitchell's writing is not enough for the person, then it may prove difficult otherwise.
I think he lets that overwhelm the other aspects of storytelling—like plot, thematic movement, sometimes character.
Certainly some more threads pick up along the way, but nothing drastically different from where you're at now. I think if Mitchell's writing is not enough for the person, then it may prove difficult otherwise.
It is utterly true that Mitchell is a bit of an acquired taste. Like Murakami. The review was very funny, but Ah'm standin' by mah man.
write a mini-series for television starting from the premise that when the two maries visited the tomb they discovered that Jesus was a robot
Wait, isn't this almost Anthony Boucher's The Quest for Saint Aquin?
Wait, isn't this almost Anthony Boucher's The Quest for Saint Aquin?
thanks guys - I was channelin Lord Sugar here - another review which will be somewhat lost on my American friends but I think you could gather that Lord Sugar is the very last possible person you'd want to be giving an opinion on historical novels.
Hey Manny - once again your memory for antique science fiction impresses me greatly - AB's take is of a priest on a robot donkey (great character) who discovers St Aquin was a robot - I think anyway. Nice story.
I thought okay, now he's got his fancy experimentalism out of the way, we will be able to see the colour of his money. And he is a very fine writer. But his plot ideas are boring. And his linguistic jokes got on my nerves too - he has lots of humorous dialogue about misunderstandings in translating between Dutch and Japanese but the jokes are between Japanese and English, so it's not at all logical, but it's a kind of funny joke the author is having with his English reader. Kind of annoying!
never read him, never met anyone who did either. I know he was Mr post modern back in the 70s and 80s. Started The Sot Weed factor years ago, gave up.
Yep you should give him a read sometime, The Sot-Weed Factor is unreal, post mordern historical fiction for lack off better words. I never understood the tag post mordern, does it mean writers from the movement, or the way a book is written.
Paul wrote: "never read him, never met anyone who did either. I know he was Mr post modern back in the 70s and 80s. Started The Sot Weed factor years ago, gave up."
I'm half way in Sot Weed, and while it's great it's a book that takes a lot to get into and back into between readings.
I'm half way in Sot Weed, and while it's great it's a book that takes a lot to get into and back into between readings.
Well you have your mainstream of writers, all your Austens and Dickens and Henry james, and they believe you can create a realistic representation of the world.
Then you have a bunch of writers around 1900 to 1930 who think that 19th century realistic fiction is old hat and reality can best be represented by using very radical new techniques - Virginia Woolf, Dos Passos, Joyce, Faulkner, and so on.
Then you have the authors who come after those, starting in the 60s I'd say, who are able to pick & choose which technique but often write unserious stuff which is, to use an overused word, profoundly ironic. John Barth was one of those, as was Borges, Coover and DFW.
But the term post-modernism is notoriously woolly.
Then you have a bunch of writers around 1900 to 1930 who think that 19th century realistic fiction is old hat and reality can best be represented by using very radical new techniques - Virginia Woolf, Dos Passos, Joyce, Faulkner, and so on.
Then you have the authors who come after those, starting in the 60s I'd say, who are able to pick & choose which technique but often write unserious stuff which is, to use an overused word, profoundly ironic. John Barth was one of those, as was Borges, Coover and DFW.
But the term post-modernism is notoriously woolly.
Great review: you've really captured Sugar's voice.
Count me as another who has enjoyed Mitchell's previous books but was disappointed by this.
Count me as another who has enjoyed Mitchell's previous books but was disappointed by this.
This review made me laugh a lot. But not as much as when Charlie Brooker described Lord Sugar as looking like an angry version of Miss Tiggywinkle!
Great review! But also a bad omen as this is the novel of his which I want to read next. He is a very fine writer indeed - the sections in Cloud Atlas about the curmudgeon publisher were my favorites and I would gladly read a novel by him just about that character!
you never know - one day he will a) forget about proving how clever he is, b) forget about showing you how much historical research he has done and c) will invent a really interesting plot - and then we'll both be fans.
Cecily wrote: "Count me as another who has enjoyed Mitchell's previous books but was disappointed by this."
Revised: This is a far deeper and more complex book after reading The Bone Clocks (even though I enjoyed that less in some ways).
Revised: This is a far deeper and more complex book after reading The Bone Clocks (even though I enjoyed that less in some ways).
Paul wrote: "now on page 150, crawling like a crippled turtle with an asthma attack, I wonder if this isn't just too tiresome, I hate giving up big well liked novels"
That's exactly how I feel at the spot. :( I've been stumbling across every word in the book so far.
Thanks Paul for this very funny review. I like the Apprentice reference ;) It looks like I'm going to abandon the book after all and thanks to you I don't feel alone in this. :)
That's exactly how I feel at the spot. :( I've been stumbling across every word in the book so far.
Thanks Paul for this very funny review. I like the Apprentice reference ;) It looks like I'm going to abandon the book after all and thanks to you I don't feel alone in this. :)
But on the other hand, yours is the minority view, Paul.
Alex, it rather depends how far through you are and what sort of books you normally like. If you've only got to page 50, I'd suggest going a little longer, but if you're as far as Paul was when he turtled, then maybe now's the point to turn to something more to your taste?
Alex, it rather depends how far through you are and what sort of books you normally like. If you've only got to page 50, I'd suggest going a little longer, but if you're as far as Paul was when he turtled, then maybe now's the point to turn to something more to your taste?
What do you want - a medal? :p
I keep toying with that, then, on the assumption I wasn't going to do so any time soon, watched the BBC adaptation. It was awful (despite a reasonable cast), so if anything, it's put me off the book, which is most unfair.
I keep toying with that, then, on the assumption I wasn't going to do so any time soon, watched the BBC adaptation. It was awful (despite a reasonable cast), so if anything, it's put me off the book, which is most unfair.
I don't know. I watched about half an hour. It felt hammy and contrived and just not engaging. It may well work better (for me) on the page, but not yet.
Anyone who is an aficionado of The Apprentice has seriously questionable taste and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near book reviews :)
at least it wasn't the American version of The Apprentice! I do confess I watched a couple of series some years ago - teenage daughters will drag you into watching almost anything.
Lol, I'd follow your reviews - I like your style!
Unfortunately we have very few books in common, shame.
Anyway, keep up the obtuse humour :)
Unfortunately we have very few books in common, shame.
Anyway, keep up the obtuse humour :)
Come on, Paul. This show is a set-up. Whover "wins" gets the right to be blown away and publicly embarrassed by Hampton Sides.
On the other hand there are some schmucks here on GR who copy their flat stuff from Wiki and other reliable sources. At least their hourly rate is above minimum wage.
On the other hand there are some schmucks here on GR who copy their flat stuff from Wiki and other reliable sources. At least their hourly rate is above minimum wage.
DubaiReader wrote: "Lol, I'd follow your reviews - I like your style!
Unfortunately we have very few books in common, shame.
Anyway, keep up the obtuse humour :)"
Obtuse? You speak a well English. Been in this country a long distance?
Unfortunately we have very few books in common, shame.
Anyway, keep up the obtuse humour :)"
Obtuse? You speak a well English. Been in this country a long distance?