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Brideshead Revisited
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Read this one years ago. I remember thinking, after reading this book, that the British were really too hung up on religion. Charles Ryder was an atheist at heart, but became a Catholic later on (more, I believe, because of his hopeless love for Julia Marchmain than because of any real religious fervour). Charles was enchanted by Sebastian's dramatics, his eccentric lifestyle and all of the beautiful things he surrounded himself with. Sebastian's biggest flaw was his heavy drinking, which he blamed on his strictly religious mother and her constant attempts to control him.
I suspected that Charles wished he could trade places with Sebastian and envied him his exotic life. But ironically, Sebastian ends up in self-imposed exile in a leper colony in Africa at the finish of the novel. Julia is trapped by her religion in her loveless marriage to a high ranking politician, and Charles is unhappy in his own marriage with Celia. Everyone in this novel appeared, at first, to be willing to be ready to give everything up for love, but they all ended up finding that their social roles, their religious upbringing - or whatever!- prevented them from choosing personal happiness over their social or religious obligations.
I remember wondering if Charles ever regretted meeting Sebastian at Oxford, but then Charles himself said that life really only began for him at Oxford AFTER he met Charles. All those poor, discontented people! I enjoyed this novel very much, but kept pitying all the poor choices that these characters made - or felt forced to settle for.
N.B. I find it interesting that Waugh later regretted writing this novel. In a letter to another author, he wrote:
Well, the rest of the literary world might beg to differ!
(I found this quote quite humorous - it reminded me of when I recently I found an old copy of my high school year book and cringed at my awful, melodramatic submissions of poetry that had been published there - Yikes!)
(There is an excellent 1981 Granada Television series staring Jeremy Irons which did a great job of adapting this novel into a series. I haven't seen the 2008 adaptation. Not sure anything can top the 1981 adaptation.)
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Read this one years ago. I remember thinking, after reading this book, that the British were really too hung up on religion. Charles Ryder was an atheist at heart, but became a Catholic later on (more, I believe, because of his hopeless love for Julia Marchmain than because of any real religious fervour). Charles was enchanted by Sebastian's dramatics, his eccentric lifestyle and all of the beautiful things he surrounded himself with. Sebastian's biggest flaw was his heavy drinking, which he blamed on his strictly religious mother and her constant attempts to control him.
I suspected that Charles wished he could trade places with Sebastian and envied him his exotic life. But ironically, Sebastian ends up in self-imposed exile in a leper colony in Africa at the finish of the novel. Julia is trapped by her religion in her loveless marriage to a high ranking politician, and Charles is unhappy in his own marriage with Celia. Everyone in this novel appeared, at first, to be willing to be ready to give everything up for love, but they all ended up finding that their social roles, their religious upbringing - or whatever!- prevented them from choosing personal happiness over their social or religious obligations.
I remember wondering if Charles ever regretted meeting Sebastian at Oxford, but then Charles himself said that life really only began for him at Oxford AFTER he met Charles. All those poor, discontented people! I enjoyed this novel very much, but kept pitying all the poor choices that these characters made - or felt forced to settle for.
N.B. I find it interesting that Waugh later regretted writing this novel. In a letter to another author, he wrote:
""I re-read Brideshead Revisited and was appalled......
It was a bleak period of present privation and threatening disaster – the period of soya beans and Basic English – and in consequence the book is infused with a kind of gluttony, for food and wine, for the splendours of the recent past, and for rhetorical and ornamental language which now, with a full stomach, I find distasteful."
Well, the rest of the literary world might beg to differ!
(I found this quote quite humorous - it reminded me of when I recently I found an old copy of my high school year book and cringed at my awful, melodramatic submissions of poetry that had been published there - Yikes!)
(There is an excellent 1981 Granada Television series staring Jeremy Irons which did a great job of adapting this novel into a series. I haven't seen the 2008 adaptation. Not sure anything can top the 1981 adaptation.)
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Great review, Susan! I've definitely got to check out the Jeremy Irons adaptation!
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Brendan wrote: "Great review, Susan! I've definitely got to check out the Jeremy Irons adaptation!"
And I suspect I will have to check out the 2008 Adaptation, eventually! I hope you enjoy it Brendan!
And I suspect I will have to check out the 2008 Adaptation, eventually! I hope you enjoy it Brendan!
The classic tv series is a masterpiece, and Irons does pining a d yearning so palpably well it hurt to look at him.
Also, surprisingly, the book is more clear about his sexuality than the tv series, which was very between the lines (except if you looked at Irons' face haha). I seem to remember he's actually in a gay bar by the end?
But yes, everyone was unhappy in this, but it's such a beautifully written novel. I read it as a teenager, perhaps I ought to-re-read it after 20+ years!
Also, surprisingly, the book is more clear about his sexuality than the tv series, which was very between the lines (except if you looked at Irons' face haha). I seem to remember he's actually in a gay bar by the end?
But yes, everyone was unhappy in this, but it's such a beautifully written novel. I read it as a teenager, perhaps I ought to-re-read it after 20+ years!
Quintessential piece of literature and TV. One of my lasting loves, it seems after all these years.
2008 adaptation (for me) had the benefit of seeing the involved actors too in these roles; Goode* is one of those oddly beguiling individuals I'm always happy to see pop up in a movie, and this was the first I ever saw of Whishaw (or Atwell), so they got attached to one's radar through this connection. The film also went a slight step 'further' - as they say - with Charles/Sebastian (whether necessary or not; the series had the benefit of time to establish their relationship by different means)... aaand the soundtrack blends nicely with the original. Also: Thompson.
But as you say: nothing can hardly top the Irons/Andrews (and Nickolas Grace, let's be real) Granada series, the whole atmosphere of sentimentality the production is able to embody. From the actors (who will forever *be* these characters, imho), to the overall design, and in no small part Burgon's timeless soundtrack... all embedded into one's sensibilities. Bliss.
(*Ah, yes. Irons and Goode: the two actors to share on screen another great - and greatly different - role: Ozymandias of Watchmen. One is inclined to wonder is someone in casting noted the connection...).
2008 adaptation (for me) had the benefit of seeing the involved actors too in these roles; Goode* is one of those oddly beguiling individuals I'm always happy to see pop up in a movie, and this was the first I ever saw of Whishaw (or Atwell), so they got attached to one's radar through this connection. The film also went a slight step 'further' - as they say - with Charles/Sebastian (whether necessary or not; the series had the benefit of time to establish their relationship by different means)... aaand the soundtrack blends nicely with the original. Also: Thompson.
But as you say: nothing can hardly top the Irons/Andrews (and Nickolas Grace, let's be real) Granada series, the whole atmosphere of sentimentality the production is able to embody. From the actors (who will forever *be* these characters, imho), to the overall design, and in no small part Burgon's timeless soundtrack... all embedded into one's sensibilities. Bliss.
(*Ah, yes. Irons and Goode: the two actors to share on screen another great - and greatly different - role: Ozymandias of Watchmen. One is inclined to wonder is someone in casting noted the connection...).
Dawn wrote: "The classic tv series is a masterpiece, and Irons does pining a d yearning so palpably well it hurt to look at him.
Also, surprisingly, the book is more clear about his sexuality than the tv serie..."
I also read this in my teens (35+ years ago!) Waugh did have relationships with both men and women, but keep in mind that homosexuality was still a crime up until 1967 in England, so Waugh had to be careful how he would allude to any possible relationship between Sebastian and Charles. I must say, Waugh's lyrical hints went right over my head on that first reading. Years later, when I read a few articles about Waugh and reread the particular lines the writers picked out to prove their points, I had a huge "Aha" moment. In my all-girls catholic high school, we had to smuggle in the bodice ripper novels that were so popular back then. And, no, Waugh was definitely not on my high school's curriculum! Thank goodness times have changed, don't you think!
Also, surprisingly, the book is more clear about his sexuality than the tv serie..."
I also read this in my teens (35+ years ago!) Waugh did have relationships with both men and women, but keep in mind that homosexuality was still a crime up until 1967 in England, so Waugh had to be careful how he would allude to any possible relationship between Sebastian and Charles. I must say, Waugh's lyrical hints went right over my head on that first reading. Years later, when I read a few articles about Waugh and reread the particular lines the writers picked out to prove their points, I had a huge "Aha" moment. In my all-girls catholic high school, we had to smuggle in the bodice ripper novels that were so popular back then. And, no, Waugh was definitely not on my high school's curriculum! Thank goodness times have changed, don't you think!
Jemppu wrote: "Quintessential piece of literature and TV. One of my lasting loves, it seems after all these years.
2008 adaptation (for me) had the benefit of seeing the involved actors too in these roles; Goode..."
Jemppu, I loved your comment and you are dead right: Jeremy Irons is an outstanding actor. I have to watch this series again!
I haven't watched the 2008 series yet (but now plan to, since you say it is very good). Ben Whishaw is another excellent actor. I've seen him in quite a few movies and expect only the best from him. Goode I have seen in The Guernsey movie, as well The Imitation Game. I will give the 2008 version a shot now, although I tend to stay away from remakes.
Did you see the total mess they made of Far From the Madding Crowd? I preferred the 1967 adaptation with Christie and the second 1998 BBC adaptation with Paloma Baeza. The scenery alone in the latter adaptation was worth watching.
Stay well!
2008 adaptation (for me) had the benefit of seeing the involved actors too in these roles; Goode..."
Jemppu, I loved your comment and you are dead right: Jeremy Irons is an outstanding actor. I have to watch this series again!
I haven't watched the 2008 series yet (but now plan to, since you say it is very good). Ben Whishaw is another excellent actor. I've seen him in quite a few movies and expect only the best from him. Goode I have seen in The Guernsey movie, as well The Imitation Game. I will give the 2008 version a shot now, although I tend to stay away from remakes.
Did you see the total mess they made of Far From the Madding Crowd? I preferred the 1967 adaptation with Christie and the second 1998 BBC adaptation with Paloma Baeza. The scenery alone in the latter adaptation was worth watching.
Stay well!
Susan's Reviews wrote: "...Did you see the total mess they made of Far From the Madding Crowd? I preferred the 1967 adaptation with Christie and the second 1998 BBC adaptation with Paloma Baeza. The scenery alone in the latter adaptation was worth watching...."
I am not familiar with either, but it sounds indeed like something worth checking out. For scenery alone.
The Brideshead movie - how ever great on it's own right it may be - does have the disadvantage of competing with a time-honored classic. They're both loyal to Waugh's aesthetic, though, I find, and complementary to each other; watching the newer takes nothing away from respect to the older.
I am not familiar with either, but it sounds indeed like something worth checking out. For scenery alone.
The Brideshead movie - how ever great on it's own right it may be - does have the disadvantage of competing with a time-honored classic. They're both loyal to Waugh's aesthetic, though, I find, and complementary to each other; watching the newer takes nothing away from respect to the older.
This reminded me: there was this movie just couple years ago "Those People", which I was surprised to find, whilst watching, was a blatant re-imagining of the Sebastian/Charles dynamic, set in modern day Manhattan.
I wonder how many watch that movie completely unaware of the obvious inspiration; directly borrowing name, and several other elements, dialogue included, iirc (I recall the detail of the diamond crusted turtle put a definite dot on it).
A rather hollow ringing drama without much soul to it by itself (or in comparison to the original pathos), but curious to observe from the point of view of Brideshead's influence. A sort of Brideshead alternative universe fanfic flick, as it were.
I wonder how many watch that movie completely unaware of the obvious inspiration; directly borrowing name, and several other elements, dialogue included, iirc (I recall the detail of the diamond crusted turtle put a definite dot on it).
A rather hollow ringing drama without much soul to it by itself (or in comparison to the original pathos), but curious to observe from the point of view of Brideshead's influence. A sort of Brideshead alternative universe fanfic flick, as it were.
Jemppu wrote: "This reminded me: there was this movie just couple years ago "Those People", which I was surprised to find, whilst watching, was a blatant re-imagining of the Sebastian/Charles dynamic, set in mode..."
I haven't seen Those People, but then I have limited my exposure to television. I now only stick to watching good dramas.
I haven't seen Those People, but then I have limited my exposure to television. I now only stick to watching good dramas.
Beata wrote: "Fine review, Susan :)) Loved both the book and the classic adaptation :)"
Thanks Beata, The BBC usually does really great work with adapting their dramas. I hope you are staying well and catching up on your reading!
Thanks Beata, The BBC usually does really great work with adapting their dramas. I hope you are staying well and catching up on your reading!
Very good review and interesting discussion.
Susan's Reviews wrote: "... The BBC usually does really great work with adapting their dramas..."
It does, but the classic, and very faithful, adaptation starring Jeremy Irons and Anthony Andrews was not by nor broadcast on the BBC. To Brits, who only had three TV channels back then, two of them BBC and one other, that had adverts, and was generally seen as lowbrow, it was something of a watershed.
I loved that version, and was very wary of the 2008 film. It certainly changes some of the key events significantly, but I was surprised how well that worked.
Susan's Reviews wrote: "... The BBC usually does really great work with adapting their dramas..."
It does, but the classic, and very faithful, adaptation starring Jeremy Irons and Anthony Andrews was not by nor broadcast on the BBC. To Brits, who only had three TV channels back then, two of them BBC and one other, that had adverts, and was generally seen as lowbrow, it was something of a watershed.
I loved that version, and was very wary of the 2008 film. It certainly changes some of the key events significantly, but I was surprised how well that worked.
Cecily wrote: "Very good review and interesting discussion.
Susan's Reviews wrote: "... The BBC usually does really great work with adapting their dramas..."
It does, but the classic, and very faithful, adaptat..."
Thanks Cicely, I wasn't aware that the two BBC TV channels didn't have advertising on them, and that Granada was an independent broadcasting company. I'm trying to recall TV broadcasting back in my own younger days here in Canada. We had two public (non profit) TV stations and the rest all came with advertising, and I'm pretty sure I saw all of the BBC (or otherwise British) productions on the public television channel that used to operate out of the US. We also watched Masterpiece Theatre (when my brothers did have control of the remote - which was just about ALWAYS. No wonder I am not a fan of televised sports!)
I'll go back and correct that. Right now, off to the library to drop off and pick up more books! Stay well!
Susan's Reviews wrote: "... The BBC usually does really great work with adapting their dramas..."
It does, but the classic, and very faithful, adaptat..."
Thanks Cicely, I wasn't aware that the two BBC TV channels didn't have advertising on them, and that Granada was an independent broadcasting company. I'm trying to recall TV broadcasting back in my own younger days here in Canada. We had two public (non profit) TV stations and the rest all came with advertising, and I'm pretty sure I saw all of the BBC (or otherwise British) productions on the public television channel that used to operate out of the US. We also watched Masterpiece Theatre (when my brothers did have control of the remote - which was just about ALWAYS. No wonder I am not a fan of televised sports!)
I'll go back and correct that. Right now, off to the library to drop off and pick up more books! Stay well!