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Call Me By Your Name (Call Me By Your Name, #1)
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bookshelves: book-club, don-t-believe-the-hype, you-ll-need-a-cigarette, books-that-promote-rape, nobody-talks-like-this
Jan 28, 2018
bookshelves: book-club, don-t-believe-the-hype, you-ll-need-a-cigarette, books-that-promote-rape, nobody-talks-like-this
A friend of mine took me to a French film festival when I was in my 20s. The first movie we watched was about a creepy little 12 or 13 year old kid who stole a piece of raw liver from his mother's kitchen and proceeded to have relations with it. He then returned the liver to the kitchen, where his mother lovingly (and none the wiser) proceeded to cook the organ meat for her family, and then we, the audience, were subjected to watching them all eat it. The little creep then got bored with stealing and sullying the family's groceries, so he started having relations with a neighborhood cat. It was at this point that I stood up and announced to my friend, “I'll be at the car. Join me when you're ready.”
That night that movie made it clear to me that we just don't need to sit through every program or movie or read through every book. Not every aspect of “art” is made for us in mind. It's true that sometimes we should consider stretching our comfort zones and not always abandon something because it makes us slightly uncomfortable. But, it may also be true that sometimes something is just plain disgusting to our senses.
This book, Call Me By Your Name could fall into either (or both categories) depending upon your perspective.
My grandmother, who was born in 1923, was from a different time, and never, within her lifetime, became comfortable with the topic of homosexuality (to be honest, she wasn't all that comfortable with the topic of heterosexuality). Hers was not a religious bias, more a cultural one, but naturally many religious perspectives against homosexuality exist still today. This book would not have been palatable to my grandmother for that reason, and is not for everyone.
I, on the other hand, have no religious or cultural bias against stories that explore sexual relations between any consenting adults. And, the homosexual relationship that happens here is actually the most palatable one to me in the entire story. To be frank, I was cheering on the Elio-Oliver relationship right from the start.
THIS was not my problem. But, I'd LOVE to tell you what was.
First off, this kid Elio is the most unrealistic 17-year-old character (unless you want to include any character from Jaws) I've come across in a while. Nothing about him seems legitimate, from his completely unrealistic grasp of translating the most difficult musical masterpieces to expressing insecurities about himself but then boldly proclaiming himself sexually to a man seven years his senior. Absolutely none of his dialogue is believable and he remains a totally unformed character, from beginning to end.
AND. . . not only was I perpetually frustrated with Mr. Unformed and Mr. Inauthentic Voice, I then needed to journey with him on his secret, perverted mission of finding his Dreamboy's dirty bathing suit and rubbing it all over his face and then “kissing every corner of it,” only to find himself disappointed that he didn't find any pubic hair.
People, a creeper did this to my mother's dirty underwear in college and she and my father called the cops. Get it? That ain't sexy, that's creepy.
And then. . . oh boy. Now (grab me a Xanax, will you?). . . the peach scene.
Argh. Crumble. The peach scene on page 147 is where I closed the book and declared again, “I'll be at the car. Join me when you're ready.”
I'll try to spare you the spoilers and just say that, instead of raw liver, this young man sullies a very good peach, and afterwards thinks:
What a crazy thing this was. I let myself hang back, holding the fruit in both hands, grateful that I hadn't gotten the sheet dirty with either juice or come. The bruised and damaged peach, like a rape victim, lay on its side on my desk, shamed, loyal, aching, and confused, struggling not to spill what I'd left inside.
EXCUSE ME?? Like a “rape victim. . . shamed, loyal, aching, and confused??” Shame on you, Mr. Aciman, for this disgusting and inappropriate metaphor.
You have pissed me off, sir!
Your book will remain UNFINISHED by me.
That night that movie made it clear to me that we just don't need to sit through every program or movie or read through every book. Not every aspect of “art” is made for us in mind. It's true that sometimes we should consider stretching our comfort zones and not always abandon something because it makes us slightly uncomfortable. But, it may also be true that sometimes something is just plain disgusting to our senses.
This book, Call Me By Your Name could fall into either (or both categories) depending upon your perspective.
My grandmother, who was born in 1923, was from a different time, and never, within her lifetime, became comfortable with the topic of homosexuality (to be honest, she wasn't all that comfortable with the topic of heterosexuality). Hers was not a religious bias, more a cultural one, but naturally many religious perspectives against homosexuality exist still today. This book would not have been palatable to my grandmother for that reason, and is not for everyone.
I, on the other hand, have no religious or cultural bias against stories that explore sexual relations between any consenting adults. And, the homosexual relationship that happens here is actually the most palatable one to me in the entire story. To be frank, I was cheering on the Elio-Oliver relationship right from the start.
THIS was not my problem. But, I'd LOVE to tell you what was.
First off, this kid Elio is the most unrealistic 17-year-old character (unless you want to include any character from Jaws) I've come across in a while. Nothing about him seems legitimate, from his completely unrealistic grasp of translating the most difficult musical masterpieces to expressing insecurities about himself but then boldly proclaiming himself sexually to a man seven years his senior. Absolutely none of his dialogue is believable and he remains a totally unformed character, from beginning to end.
AND. . . not only was I perpetually frustrated with Mr. Unformed and Mr. Inauthentic Voice, I then needed to journey with him on his secret, perverted mission of finding his Dreamboy's dirty bathing suit and rubbing it all over his face and then “kissing every corner of it,” only to find himself disappointed that he didn't find any pubic hair.
People, a creeper did this to my mother's dirty underwear in college and she and my father called the cops. Get it? That ain't sexy, that's creepy.
And then. . . oh boy. Now (grab me a Xanax, will you?). . . the peach scene.
Argh. Crumble. The peach scene on page 147 is where I closed the book and declared again, “I'll be at the car. Join me when you're ready.”
I'll try to spare you the spoilers and just say that, instead of raw liver, this young man sullies a very good peach, and afterwards thinks:
What a crazy thing this was. I let myself hang back, holding the fruit in both hands, grateful that I hadn't gotten the sheet dirty with either juice or come. The bruised and damaged peach, like a rape victim, lay on its side on my desk, shamed, loyal, aching, and confused, struggling not to spill what I'd left inside.
EXCUSE ME?? Like a “rape victim. . . shamed, loyal, aching, and confused??” Shame on you, Mr. Aciman, for this disgusting and inappropriate metaphor.
You have pissed me off, sir!
Your book will remain UNFINISHED by me.
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Great, thoughtful book report, Julie. I don't keep track of movies as closely as I did in my 20s and 30s (unless Diane Lane is in them) and haven't paid attention to the awards derby this year, so I wouldn't have known that this movie was based on a book that pushes all the buttons on the elevator. We all have our standards of good taste and sometimes I'm surprised at what I can tolerate (Lolita being a good example). There are a million different expressions of love in art and either we believe them or we don't.
My favorite foreign films are Federico Fellini's La Dolce Vita, the samurai movies of Akira Kurosawa and Before Sunrise, Before Sunset & Before Midnight (directed by Austin's own Richard Linklater in 1995, 2004 and 2013 but set in Vienna, Paris and Greece). These movies will transport you out of yourself and return you with a greater understanding of what it means to be human.
Well, I am sorry to say I was having lunch while I was reading your review. Luckily, neither liver or a peach ! Wow that was a tremendously visceral review. I agree that we don’t necessarily have to read or like every book we open. It took me a long time to be able to say, sorry, this is not working and simply closing a book and not finishing it. Thanks for an honest review- it was right on the mark. Love your reviews , BTW.
Joe,
If you end up reading this, can I PLEASE be on the bench next to you, as you do? Or, at least until you get to the dirty bathing suit scene??
If you end up reading this, can I PLEASE be on the bench next to you, as you do? Or, at least until you get to the dirty bathing suit scene??
Julie wrote: "If you end up reading this, can I PLEASE be on the bench next to you, as you do? Or, at least until you get to the dirty bathing suit scene??"
Julie, I'd rather have a bird shat on my head. I don't have time to waste on tasteless books. I would share a bench with you.
Julie, I'd rather have a bird shat on my head. I don't have time to waste on tasteless books. I would share a bench with you.
Joe,
Just an FYI, I have loved ALL other French films, with the exception of the weird one that I referenced in this review, and I believe this movie was French Canadian (sorry, Quebec!).
P.S. The Julia Delpy/Ethan Hawke trilogy is one of my favorites. You have good taste.
Just an FYI, I have loved ALL other French films, with the exception of the weird one that I referenced in this review, and I believe this movie was French Canadian (sorry, Quebec!).
P.S. The Julia Delpy/Ethan Hawke trilogy is one of my favorites. You have good taste.
Thank you, Julie. I think you have wonderful taste in books, records and films as well. I love Julie Delpy in that trilogy. Intellectual and earthy is a hard combination to portray and her character is pulled between both poles often. "You're the Mayor of Crazytown," is a sentiment both Ethan Hawke and I share when arguing with women we love.
Antoinette,
Thank you. I am so sorry if this review made it challenging to swallow your meal. I should have put a disclaimer on it. *Don't read while eating.*
How will I ever repair my damaged relationship with peaches??
Thank you. I am so sorry if this review made it challenging to swallow your meal. I should have put a disclaimer on it. *Don't read while eating.*
How will I ever repair my damaged relationship with peaches??
Julie, I am so glad I have never read that book- I love peaches and would hate to think of them as anything other than a peach. BTW, I was thinking about a movie I walked out of- O Lucky Man with Malcolm McDowell- Totally repulsive. Your review has brought back memories- Haha!
Awwww. Thanks, Joe. Better the Mayor of Crazytown than a pervert with a dirty bathing suit on your head, right?
Antoinette,
Ack!! I'm sorry to bring back bad memories. The worst part about movies is how powerful visual images are!
Ack!! I'm sorry to bring back bad memories. The worst part about movies is how powerful visual images are!
Loved your review, Julie, the only thing I'm worried about now is if I'll ever be able to see peaches without gagging again... :-)
Cheri,
Here in Colorado we're famous for our gorgeous peaches. . . not sure I can ever look at one again.
Peach PTSD.
Here in Colorado we're famous for our gorgeous peaches. . . not sure I can ever look at one again.
Peach PTSD.
Julie, this book caught my attention at B&N today because of its strategic placement on the shelf. I actually stopped for a minute and then walked by without picking it up. Whew! That was a close one. Had I been armed with your review ahead of time, I am sure I would have felt a bit queasy and skipped my visit to Starbucks afterwards. Thank you for another very interesting review!
Ha! Well, I am a fan of peaches, but I am hoping that this review will be erased from my mind before peaches are in season up here (no offense to your reviewing skills, lol!) I will, however, refrain from eating a liverwurst sandwich, which I have been known to do from time to time ;0
Ack!! People really need to keep food out of their sexual repertoire. Can’t they be happy with eating a chocolate covered strawberry?!
First, great review. Second, I'm not touching this book. I saw the trailer for the movie and even the dialogue sounded lame. And as soon as I heard about the peach scene, I was out. What a waste of a peach!
I prefer my liver sautéed with fava beans and paired with a nice Chianti, Julie, but each to their own...
Sorry to hear that you didn't enjoy this one. Julie. That peach description would put anyone off. I haven't read the book but I loved the movie (and the peach scene is handled a little more tastefully than in the novel, from what I hear!)
This review kind of reminds me of the meat scene in the book Portnoy's Complaint. I haven't read it, but I remember you liked the book, in spite of your grandmother's outrage :)
I just found out Portnoy's complaint has a liver scene and was made into a movie in 1972. It must have been this movie you were referring to. But it's an American movie ?
Hi Peter!
Everyone I know who has seen the movie has said the same thing, that the movie is great. I'm always surprised, though, when someone has the higher vision to make a movie out of such an average or below average book. Perfect examples for me are The Wonderful Wizard of Oz and Jaws. Maybe this one is also ending up on my "The movie was better" shelf??
Everyone I know who has seen the movie has said the same thing, that the movie is great. I'm always surprised, though, when someone has the higher vision to make a movie out of such an average or below average book. Perfect examples for me are The Wonderful Wizard of Oz and Jaws. Maybe this one is also ending up on my "The movie was better" shelf??
Greta,
What's this thing with men and raw liver?? Either way, could they keep it to THEMSELVES?
I remember several uncomfortable scenes from Portnoy's Complaint, but, strangely, can't remember liver. I never saw the movie.
The film I'm referring to was French, most likely French Canadian, and it was produced in the early 90s. I *think* it had a one word title, and I *think* it was the boy's name. That's the best I can come up with, more than 20 years later, especially because I've blocked it out of my mind!
What's this thing with men and raw liver?? Either way, could they keep it to THEMSELVES?
I remember several uncomfortable scenes from Portnoy's Complaint, but, strangely, can't remember liver. I never saw the movie.
The film I'm referring to was French, most likely French Canadian, and it was produced in the early 90s. I *think* it had a one word title, and I *think* it was the boy's name. That's the best I can come up with, more than 20 years later, especially because I've blocked it out of my mind!
Ha! I went from tearing up over some Kent Haruf book reviews to this one. It cracked me up...especially Kevin's reference to Silence of the Lambs. Thanks for the laugh...this was rich!
Carol: OMG, is that what Kevin meant by that?? I never read that book and I was almost knocked unconscious from anxiety during the movie. . . totally missed that reference!
Now liver is even LESS palatable to me!!
Now liver is even LESS palatable to me!!
You are really cute, Julie, for missing that classic Silence of the Lambs reference!! Awwwwwwww... xo
Ha! Robin, you know I can't handle scary. Plus, Kevin occasionally says weird things. I thought he literally meant that was something he ate. I mean, it sounded like a weird meal. . . but it's Kevin!
You still gave 2 stars to a book you didn‘t finish. I am watching the film right now. No peaches yet (min 58:27). Liked your review, at least in the film Elio is, as you say, very very very precocious for his age.
Alex,
I would love it if you would read it; I haven't heard a comparison yet of the book with the film.
I gave it 2 stars for its "readability" factor, and I had hope that things would improve for me. . . until the peach scene (which ended in fuzz).
I would love it if you would read it; I haven't heard a comparison yet of the book with the film.
I gave it 2 stars for its "readability" factor, and I had hope that things would improve for me. . . until the peach scene (which ended in fuzz).
Hilarious! Basically felt the same way about the movie. But at least it was nicely shot, so there was that.
You are right, we don't need to expose ourselves to "art" just because it's called "art". Art, the sly dog, goes by various names. It can be the Sistine Chapel at the Vatican, or can also be little vials filled with pee, poop, hair and various sanitary products at the MOMA. And we absolutely can decide when to wait in the car as you eloquently put it.
Fantastic review. I shall never eat liver again (not that I was planning to).