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Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
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Jul 30, 2014
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Read 2 times. Last read August 27, 2014 to December 22, 2015.
An android walks into a bar.
"Hey!", the bartender says, "Only people with feelings are allowed in here! You need empathy in order to be in a joke like this, or at least have something people can relate to."
"Oh, don't worry", the android replies, "I definitely feel empathy."
Relieved, the bartender invites him over to the bar. "What are you having?"
"A beer would be great!", the android replies. The bartender, evidently approving of this fine choice, gladly obliges and goes on to cater for the other guests.
The android sits there for a while, drinking, looking, thinking. He decides he wants more of that beer.
"Hey bartender!", he shouts, "Come give me a refill, my glass is empathy!"
___
The title of this edition, "Blade Runner", is very fitting as it shows to which great extent my reading experience tied in to the movie. This might seem strange because plot-wise there are very few similarities between this book and the film. And despite them being so different, I can only say both are supremely good. It's impossible for me to say which I prefer. One element where the book wins it over the movie is the title, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?", which was used as a subtitle in this edition of the book. The contents remain the same as in the original book, but the cover work is evidently made with the movie in mind.
The way the novel influenced the movie probably goes without saying. The central theme has been picked up: man managed to create an "inferior" version of man in order to make use of that product for their own benefit: as slaves, as company. In essence, what would happen if Dr. Frankenstein's patent would expire and his creation would be mass-produced, made more aesthetically pleasing and completely void of emotions. Inferior is relative though, because the androids are generally more intelligent and agile. And most look very attractive, which helps.
That's where the philosophical aspect comes in: What is it that makes us so different from these creations that makes us essentially human?
According to society in this book, it's empathy. The ability to feel for others, to manage to go through what they're going through by some mystic group connection. The androids can't do that and are thus considered subhuman and when on the loose, dangerous.
This story progresses by questioning that central statement. For starters, not all humans have empathy, or at least they don't act upon it. And when they have it, it's selective at best. The difference between "human" and "humane" is more signifcant than what their similar spelling would suggest. How else to explain the treatment of so-called "chickenheads", by which society allows the elderly, the weak and the stupid to be stranded on a dying planet? Additionally, hints are given that the androids could possess more emotions than they were intended to have. So where on the humanity spectrum does that leave the man who has to kill them for a living? That's what this story is about.
This book offers some insights on how Dick himself intended his book, which was essentially an anti-establishment novel during the war in Vietnam. His line of thinking was that when we go fighting, we become what we're fighting against. In his vision the androids truly were evil. Any sympathizing I have been doing with them, and with me many others, was not intended by the author and maybe partially due to the movie's influence. Admittedly, it becomes much harder to like them near the end of the book, especially if you like animals. Dick's focus was not on how human the in our eyes inhuman are, but on how bounty hunters themselves became devoid of emotions the longer they were doing their jobs. How those who claim to be human can turn into the monsters they fight quite easily. I personally like to regard it from both its perspectives.
The atmosphere created in the book is supreme. When I had read it last year, I rated it three stars. Yesterday, 4. Now, after having given it careful thought, 5. Why the hesitation? There are some segments that don't seem to make sense, like the operation Garland had set up or Mercer manifesting himself at certain occasions. But then, that's part of it. The "nightmare" feel of the book is part of what makes it so great and these fluid elements in the story where there are unexplained shifts between dreamworlds and reality are part of what constitutes the nightmare experience.
My reading-experience of this book was amplified by the influences of the other media it appeared in, both the movie and the videogame (which was based on the movie). The artwork in those was simply sublime and provided the perfect framework in which the story could be set, also in my mind. Dark and always foggy streets, trash everywhere, cheap neon the only source of light and a musical score to round it all off. It's a dreary place, but somehow, I can't explain it, very appealing.
According to the additional notes in my edition, Dick, who sadly could not see the completed movie due to his untimely demise, was positively surprised when he saw the first 20 minutes of the movie, saying that it felt Ridley Scott had held a mirror to his mind. I do wonder if that's entirely truthful, since I doubt Harrison Ford saw a balding, slightly overweight man when he looked in his own mirror. I think it's safe to say that Ridley Scott and his entourage really added something to the experience of this story, as well as offering a completely new narrative.
In conclusion: This is one of those instances where the franchise in its entirety can be strongly recommended. Like PKD himself predicted in a letter to the movie-makers: Blade Runner has proven to be invincible. I hope the Blade Runner 2049 movie will demonstrate that further.
Read it, watch it, play it and ... feel human :-)
"Hey!", the bartender says, "Only people with feelings are allowed in here! You need empathy in order to be in a joke like this, or at least have something people can relate to."
"Oh, don't worry", the android replies, "I definitely feel empathy."
Relieved, the bartender invites him over to the bar. "What are you having?"
"A beer would be great!", the android replies. The bartender, evidently approving of this fine choice, gladly obliges and goes on to cater for the other guests.
The android sits there for a while, drinking, looking, thinking. He decides he wants more of that beer.
"Hey bartender!", he shouts, "Come give me a refill, my glass is empathy!"
___
The title of this edition, "Blade Runner", is very fitting as it shows to which great extent my reading experience tied in to the movie. This might seem strange because plot-wise there are very few similarities between this book and the film. And despite them being so different, I can only say both are supremely good. It's impossible for me to say which I prefer. One element where the book wins it over the movie is the title, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?", which was used as a subtitle in this edition of the book. The contents remain the same as in the original book, but the cover work is evidently made with the movie in mind.
The way the novel influenced the movie probably goes without saying. The central theme has been picked up: man managed to create an "inferior" version of man in order to make use of that product for their own benefit: as slaves, as company. In essence, what would happen if Dr. Frankenstein's patent would expire and his creation would be mass-produced, made more aesthetically pleasing and completely void of emotions. Inferior is relative though, because the androids are generally more intelligent and agile. And most look very attractive, which helps.
That's where the philosophical aspect comes in: What is it that makes us so different from these creations that makes us essentially human?
According to society in this book, it's empathy. The ability to feel for others, to manage to go through what they're going through by some mystic group connection. The androids can't do that and are thus considered subhuman and when on the loose, dangerous.
This story progresses by questioning that central statement. For starters, not all humans have empathy, or at least they don't act upon it. And when they have it, it's selective at best. The difference between "human" and "humane" is more signifcant than what their similar spelling would suggest. How else to explain the treatment of so-called "chickenheads", by which society allows the elderly, the weak and the stupid to be stranded on a dying planet? Additionally, hints are given that the androids could possess more emotions than they were intended to have. So where on the humanity spectrum does that leave the man who has to kill them for a living? That's what this story is about.
This book offers some insights on how Dick himself intended his book, which was essentially an anti-establishment novel during the war in Vietnam. His line of thinking was that when we go fighting, we become what we're fighting against. In his vision the androids truly were evil. Any sympathizing I have been doing with them, and with me many others, was not intended by the author and maybe partially due to the movie's influence. Admittedly, it becomes much harder to like them near the end of the book, especially if you like animals. Dick's focus was not on how human the in our eyes inhuman are, but on how bounty hunters themselves became devoid of emotions the longer they were doing their jobs. How those who claim to be human can turn into the monsters they fight quite easily. I personally like to regard it from both its perspectives.
The atmosphere created in the book is supreme. When I had read it last year, I rated it three stars. Yesterday, 4. Now, after having given it careful thought, 5. Why the hesitation? There are some segments that don't seem to make sense, like the operation Garland had set up or Mercer manifesting himself at certain occasions. But then, that's part of it. The "nightmare" feel of the book is part of what makes it so great and these fluid elements in the story where there are unexplained shifts between dreamworlds and reality are part of what constitutes the nightmare experience.
My reading-experience of this book was amplified by the influences of the other media it appeared in, both the movie and the videogame (which was based on the movie). The artwork in those was simply sublime and provided the perfect framework in which the story could be set, also in my mind. Dark and always foggy streets, trash everywhere, cheap neon the only source of light and a musical score to round it all off. It's a dreary place, but somehow, I can't explain it, very appealing.
According to the additional notes in my edition, Dick, who sadly could not see the completed movie due to his untimely demise, was positively surprised when he saw the first 20 minutes of the movie, saying that it felt Ridley Scott had held a mirror to his mind. I do wonder if that's entirely truthful, since I doubt Harrison Ford saw a balding, slightly overweight man when he looked in his own mirror. I think it's safe to say that Ridley Scott and his entourage really added something to the experience of this story, as well as offering a completely new narrative.
In conclusion: This is one of those instances where the franchise in its entirety can be strongly recommended. Like PKD himself predicted in a letter to the movie-makers: Blade Runner has proven to be invincible. I hope the Blade Runner 2049 movie will demonstrate that further.
Read it, watch it, play it and ... feel human :-)
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“Silence. It flashed from the woodwork and the walls; it smote him with an awful, total power, as if generated by a vast mill. It rose from the floor, up out of the tattered gray wall-to-wall carpeting. It unleashed itself from the broken and semi-broken appliances in the kitchen, the dead machines which hadn’t worked in all the time Isidore had lived here. From the useless pole lamp in the living room it oozed out, meshing with the empty and wordless descent of itself from the fly-specked ceiling. It managed in fact to emerge from every object within his range of vision, as if it—the silence—meant to supplant all things tangible. Hence it assailed not only his ears but his eyes; as he stood by the inert TV set he experienced the silence as visible and, in its own way, alive. Alive! He had often felt its austere approach before; when it came it burst in without subtlety, evidently unable to wait. The silence of the world could not rein back its greed. Not any longer. Not when it had virtually won.”
― Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
― Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
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And roid now I'm thinking this was a great review in itself. Puns are great.
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Eric wrote: "I think I have that edition. Wish they'd kept the original title tho'."
It's still there, in small print. ;-)
I actually loved this edition. The book is the perfect size where it almost fits i the palm of your hand without getting ridiculously small.
And they made up for the title by adding around twenty pages of insight as to how Philip K. Dick was involved in the making of the movie and how excited he was about the whole prospect. It's sad he didn't get to see the finished product.
All that said, I am considering buying an edition with the original title as well, just to expand my SF Masterworks (the ones with the yellow spines) collection mainly.
It's still there, in small print. ;-)
I actually loved this edition. The book is the perfect size where it almost fits i the palm of your hand without getting ridiculously small.
And they made up for the title by adding around twenty pages of insight as to how Philip K. Dick was involved in the making of the movie and how excited he was about the whole prospect. It's sad he didn't get to see the finished product.
All that said, I am considering buying an edition with the original title as well, just to expand my SF Masterworks (the ones with the yellow spines) collection mainly.
Thank you - that's interesting! Also I hadn't noticed that or maybe I'd forgotten, unfortunately my copy is around 250 miles away :)
My favorite PKD, I wish Hollywood would make a straight version with PKD's title though, that would be a very different movie, and possibly very cool.
Very nice review as always.
Very nice review as always.
Apatt wrote: "My favorite PKD, I wish Hollywood would make a straight version with PKD's title though, that would be a very different movie, and possibly very cool.
Very nice review as always."
Thank you Apatt!
It would be interesting to see a movie more faithful to the book, but I'm not sure it can be done easily. The edition I read came with a short documentary on the making of of the movie, and while there were some personal choices made by Ridley Scott that resulted in the dropping of certain aspects, even PKD himself granted the difficulty of including everything the book had in a movie.
It's true that the "kipple" and dust are much less present in the movie, but I love the artwork and atmosphere in the film so much I find it virtually impossible to criticize it :-p
Very nice review as always."
Thank you Apatt!
It would be interesting to see a movie more faithful to the book, but I'm not sure it can be done easily. The edition I read came with a short documentary on the making of of the movie, and while there were some personal choices made by Ridley Scott that resulted in the dropping of certain aspects, even PKD himself granted the difficulty of including everything the book had in a movie.
It's true that the "kipple" and dust are much less present in the movie, but I love the artwork and atmosphere in the film so much I find it virtually impossible to criticize it :-p
"Empathy"? That has to be one of the worst puns I've come across in a LONG while - and I've been hearing Christmas cracker ones for the last couple of days! Thanks for an extra LOL - and a good review.
Cecily wrote: ""Empathy"? That has to be one of the worst puns I've come across in a LONG while - and I've been hearing Christmas cracker ones for the last couple of days! Thanks for an extra LOL - and a good rev..."
Some days when I re-read that joke, I feel utterly ashamed and am of half a mind to delete it.
Other days, I simply laugh again and congratulate myself on how incredibly witty I am.
Your kind comment turned this day into one belonging to the second category. Thanks Cecily ;-)
Some days when I re-read that joke, I feel utterly ashamed and am of half a mind to delete it.
Other days, I simply laugh again and congratulate myself on how incredibly witty I am.
Your kind comment turned this day into one belonging to the second category. Thanks Cecily ;-)
Don't be ashamed! It brought a smile to my day, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Congratulate yourself on your wit and be happy.
Congratulate yourself on your wit and be happy.
Sabah wrote: "Matthias I know I read this review and I'm sure I commented on it! But niw I'm seriously doubting myself. Anyway, outstanding review. I've seen the film hundreds of times over. I love the execution..."
Thank you Sabah! I remember you commenting on a status update when I was reading this book, that might explain your confusion ;-)
Really eager to watch that movie again, sadly Netflix Belgium doesn't offer it yet, so I might need to get the DVD. Something that eases the pain was watchin the playthrough of the game though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y3TK... Obviously it's much slower than the movie, but it captures the atmosphere perfectly and offers a really nice side-story :-)
Thank you Sabah! I remember you commenting on a status update when I was reading this book, that might explain your confusion ;-)
Really eager to watch that movie again, sadly Netflix Belgium doesn't offer it yet, so I might need to get the DVD. Something that eases the pain was watchin the playthrough of the game though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y3TK... Obviously it's much slower than the movie, but it captures the atmosphere perfectly and offers a really nice side-story :-)
Great review. I particularly appreciate your noting that, in the book, the reader is not encouraged to sympathize with the androids. That's the influence of the movie. In the book, as you say, they're creepy as hell, and the problem isn't "androids are people too!" but the reverse, that people can be no better than androids. Thoughtful stuff.
Jason wrote: "Great review. I particularly appreciate your noting that, in the book, the reader is not encouraged to sympathize with the androids. That's the influence of the movie. In the book, as you say, they..."
Agree with Jason. I never really quite appreciated the difference between how the film and the movie portrays the androids. No wonder that PKD apparently threw an absolute fit on the set.
Agree with Jason. I never really quite appreciated the difference between how the film and the movie portrays the androids. No wonder that PKD apparently threw an absolute fit on the set.
Jason wrote: "Great review. I particularly appreciate your noting that, in the book, the reader is not encouraged to sympathize with the androids. That's the influence of the movie. In the book, as you say, they..."
Thank you Jason! Yes, I was quite surprised I didn't sympathize with the androids a bit more, but when they were pulling that spider's legs I didn't see so much harm in "retiring" them anymore.
Not that I think people who hurt spiders should be killed, mind you. Guess that shows my double standards ;-)
Thank you Jason! Yes, I was quite surprised I didn't sympathize with the androids a bit more, but when they were pulling that spider's legs I didn't see so much harm in "retiring" them anymore.
Not that I think people who hurt spiders should be killed, mind you. Guess that shows my double standards ;-)
Erik wrote: "Jason wrote: "Great review. I particularly appreciate your noting that, in the book, the reader is not encouraged to sympathize with the androids. That's the influence of the movie. In the book, as..."
I see your point, maybe I'm more lenient towards the movie because I saw that first.
Though from what I've gathered from this book (there's an extra chapter on the movie and PKD's reaction to it) is that, while he wasn't happy with how they concieved it at first, when he saw the first 20 minutes of the actual movie he was very pleased with the results. Sadly, he never got to see the finished product.
I see your point, maybe I'm more lenient towards the movie because I saw that first.
Though from what I've gathered from this book (there's an extra chapter on the movie and PKD's reaction to it) is that, while he wasn't happy with how they concieved it at first, when he saw the first 20 minutes of the actual movie he was very pleased with the results. Sadly, he never got to see the finished product.
Matthias wrote: "Erik wrote: "Jason wrote: "Great review. I particularly appreciate your noting that, in the book, the reader is not encouraged to sympathize with the androids. That's the influence of the movie. In..."
Ahhh I didn't know that. That reconciliation brightens my day. I also never realized he died before it was released. Ah, life...
Ahhh I didn't know that. That reconciliation brightens my day. I also never realized he died before it was released. Ah, life...
Hammy72125 wrote: "I've been limited to the movie version; and it's one of my favorites; like this review. I'm trying to find something bright to add to it, but am running empathy.
So, I'll say a banal "Excellent. T..."
Kindness is never banal, Hammy! If you liked the movie so much there's really nothing that should be stopping you from reading this book. It's a pretty quick read and I can guarantee it won't ruin the cinematic experience :-)
So, I'll say a banal "Excellent. T..."
Kindness is never banal, Hammy! If you liked the movie so much there's really nothing that should be stopping you from reading this book. It's a pretty quick read and I can guarantee it won't ruin the cinematic experience :-)
I started this book a couple of months ago and never continued it for no apparent reason at all. I need to get off my lazy back and start reading this again! Great review, Matthias, very encouraging to read (and finish) my first PKD novel :)
Councillor wrote: "I started this book a couple of months ago and never continued it for no apparent reason at all. I need to get off my lazy back and start reading this again! Great review, Matthias, very encouragin..."
Thanks Councillor! So what you're saying is that you DNF'ed a PKD? Wow! Have you seen the movie? For me, the ability to match the settings of the movie with what I read in the book made the whole experience more pleasurable.
Thanks Councillor! So what you're saying is that you DNF'ed a PKD? Wow! Have you seen the movie? For me, the ability to match the settings of the movie with what I read in the book made the whole experience more pleasurable.
Matthias wrote: "Councillor wrote: "I started this book a couple of months ago and never continued it for no apparent reason at all. I need to get off my lazy back and start reading this again! Great review, Matthi..."
I would rather call it putting it aside for later, because I do still intend to return to it. I haven't seen the movie yet, though - maybe that would be an interesting experience too, watching the movie first and then looking at the differences. Especially since I'm still not very much into the sci-fi genre and can imagine that it makes imagining the scenes easier. :)
I would rather call it putting it aside for later, because I do still intend to return to it. I haven't seen the movie yet, though - maybe that would be an interesting experience too, watching the movie first and then looking at the differences. Especially since I'm still not very much into the sci-fi genre and can imagine that it makes imagining the scenes easier. :)
Jean wrote: "What an excellent review, Matthias! It's high time I read this one :)"
Thanks Jean! And no pressure ;-), but yes, it is high time, especially if you haven't read anything else by PKD either. He's an author who shouldn't be missing in any library.
Thanks Jean! And no pressure ;-), but yes, it is high time, especially if you haven't read anything else by PKD either. He's an author who shouldn't be missing in any library.
Derek wrote: "Junta wrote: "Puns are great"
and bad puns are better!"
It's the only kind I can come up with, honestly :-)
and bad puns are better!"
It's the only kind I can come up with, honestly :-)
great review ! im sold, going to read this book later this week
Jean-Paul wrote: "So glad this splendid review resurfaced, Matthias. While the androids cannot develop empathy and become humane, we too sadly, as a creation, can very easily loose both our sense to share the feelin..."
Quite so, Jean-Paul! But let's stay brave and optimistic, and let's not turn on the news too much :p Thank you for your kind comment my friend.
Quite so, Jean-Paul! But let's stay brave and optimistic, and let's not turn on the news too much :p Thank you for your kind comment my friend.
A wrote: "great review ! im sold, going to read this book later this week"
Fantastic! Hope you'll enjoy it :-)
Fantastic! Hope you'll enjoy it :-)
Damn, this is one good review. I rated it a 4, but reading your review makes me want to critically reconsider mine
On a side-note regarding videogames, have you played any of the Deus Ex games? They take a great amount of influence from the cyberpunk genre (though it's more Neuromancer than DADoES)
On a side-note regarding videogames, have you played any of the Deus Ex games? They take a great amount of influence from the cyberpunk genre (though it's more Neuromancer than DADoES)
Damn, this is one good review. I rated it a 4, but reading your review makes me want to critically reconsider mine
On a side-note regarding videogames, have you played any of the Deus Ex games? They take a great amount of influence from the cyberpunk genre (though it's more Neuromancer than DADoES)
On a side-note regarding videogames, have you played any of the Deus Ex games? They take a great amount of influence from the cyberpunk genre (though it's more Neuromancer than DADoES)
Salman wrote: "Damn, this is one good review. I rated it a 4, but reading your review makes me want to critically reconsider mine
On a side-note regarding videogames, have you played any of the Deus Ex games? T..."
Have I played Deux Ex? The original Deus Ex is only my favorite game of all time, my friend! It also made me discover Chesterton's book "The Man Who Was Thursday" (which I read) and Gravity's Rainbow (which I didn't read yet). I think I've played that game at least ten times now. Your message almost gives me the feeling that Icarus has finally found me!
On a side-note regarding videogames, have you played any of the Deus Ex games? T..."
Have I played Deux Ex? The original Deus Ex is only my favorite game of all time, my friend! It also made me discover Chesterton's book "The Man Who Was Thursday" (which I read) and Gravity's Rainbow (which I didn't read yet). I think I've played that game at least ten times now. Your message almost gives me the feeling that Icarus has finally found me!
Matthias wrote: "Salman wrote: "Damn, this is one good review. I rated it a 4, but reading your review makes me want to critically reconsider mine
On a side-note regarding videogames, have you played any of the De..."
Oh My God, tell me about it. The plot, the gameplay, the ost, everything just comes neatly into the perfect bundle.
On a side-note regarding videogames, have you played any of the De..."
Oh My God, tell me about it. The plot, the gameplay, the ost, everything just comes neatly into the perfect bundle.