Talk:Omega Supreme (G1)

Trivia

What's the source on the "Fortress Maximus" bit? I only know of that being applied to Metroplex early on, not Omega Supreme. Not that it's beyond possibility, of course.

I think the Omega Spreem bit my need some rewording as well.--MCRG 18:15, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

'strue. Hasbro was really, really desperate to use the name Fortress Maximus on something, and Omega was their first choice. That didn't go through for some reason or another, so they opted for Metroplex. Metro ALSO didn't get the name, but the REAL Fort Max did. This is based off a thread on The Allspark dealing with character origins, so I can't really cite a source.

And yeah, the Omega Spreem should be reworded, but I have no idea as to how.--Octopus Prime- King of the Road! 20:54, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't we take the Fort Max thing with a mountain of salt? I know Metroplex and Omega are confused all the time... each name conjures up memories of the other robot to anyone who doesn't fully remember the situation. And as god-like as Bob is, he's fallible and not nearly as big a fan as we all are (I don't see him posting here, afterall). It is WAY more likely that Bob was thinking of Metroplex and screwed that one up. What are we going to do when these guys who were involved with the creation of the Transformers start to get really old and tell us that originally, Chip Chase was to be revealed to have a cheese sandwich mode that took over as the supreme commander of all the Battle Chargers? Are we still going to take their word as gospel?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aaron Black (talk • contribs).

No, because it's not just Bob. Omega is also intermittently named "Fortress Maximus" in the 1985 series bible. And while the external link in is currently down, once it goes back up, I imagine that you'll find that it leads to a photograph of an original document page that was shown on the projector screen at the panel that uses the Fort Max name, not just an idle recollection of Bob's. - Chris McFeely 04:52, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Well then, good enough for me :) Okay, so quick question then... in Golden Lagoon when Beachcomber says "Great Maximus!", is this a nod to Metroplex now? Omega is already named in the episode, and the real Fort Max is years away from release.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aaron Black (talk • contribs).

arms

on this page it says that his torso transforms into a tank, his legs and back pack turn into a rocket base and his arms turn into a rocket yet in one episode his rocket lands and the autobots get out and then the rocket transforms into all of omega supreme with no visible unarmed (couldn't resist that pun) robot or tank and rocket base flying to him, explanations? 80.42.113.93 19:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Animators rarely followed the actual toy's transformation. There's your explanation. --Detour 20:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

A wizard did it. -FFN

actually i just remembered an episode where he flies off somewhere with the autobots inside and when he transforms back to robot mode for a second you see the tank, base and rocket all there81.108.233.59 18:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Supreme/Spreem

While the two versions of the name would indeed be identical in katakana, how is that relevant to a misspelling for a Euro/Australian-release item?--Apcog 17:42, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I suppose it depends on who was translating it. If they were a native English speaker, that explanation would seem unlikely. However, if it was translated in Japan by someone who got a C in highschool English, it could definitely happen because of the identical katakana. This is all the opinion of a guy who does not speak or read any Japanese, of course. Semysane 18:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I think this trivia note would make a lot more sense (and could be phrased mess awkwardly) if we actually had the katakana to point to.

Like... "Omega Supreme" and "Omega Spreem" can both be written as ミチヤメノテヒ フナナ in Japanese, which is believed to be the source of this error... somehow.

Note: that is not the katakana rendering of Omega Supreme's name, I just grabbed some lorem ipsum as an example. -Derik 18:47, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

FWIW, the relevant kana are オメガスプリーム. However, this still misses my point: The "Omega Spreem" spelling did NOT occur on a Japanese-market product, but on a Euro/Australian-market product. The fact that a Japanese person would be more likely to make that spelling change seems to me to be irrelevant, since there's nothing indicating that a Japanese person had anything to do with setting up the text copy on the packaging.--Apcog 23:22, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Spreems name is a translation from english to japanese and back again originating from the design phase for these toys with Takara. This is also why Doublepunch is essentially Black Zarak, a japanese only release.

Argus (talk) 09:44, 1 May 2014 (EDT)

First with batteries?

Was Omega Supreme the first Transformers toy to require batteries? (Ignoring the pre-TF Blaster, of course.) JW 15:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

If he showed up in stores before Shockwave (another 1985 figure), then yes. --FortMax 17:13, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Toybox info

Found this discussion http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/classics-11/japanese-hobby-magazine-scans-for-january-2008-164116/ Interesting summary of an interview with Junichi Ishikawa. Not sure how to cite this for inclusion. Khajidha 15:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)

French release

Recently, I managed to pick up an Omega Supreme (with the box) in France at flea market-like sale. There are a few things I believe worth mentioning, like : 1-it was released by a separate company from the ones mentioned in the Europe G1 Toyline page 2-nowhere on the box is the Transformers line mentioned/referenced, yet the package art features an Autobot logo (though there may not have been a sticker for it in the box ; box was already open and worn out). However, the logo on top of the box is written in the style of the G1 logo. 3- there is a sheet showing the various pieces in the box and displaying a short story ... with, again, no reference whatsoever to the Transformers.

Where should I put this info (in the event it's deemed worth putting on the Wiki) ? Thanks in advance. HunterCham 07:09, 7 June 2010 (EDT)

Small update on this : found a (French, of course) TV ad for this variant : http://www.ina.fr/pub/culture-et-loisirs/video/PUB3784054071/robotrack-orli-jouets-jeu.fr.html The Transformers series is not mentioned, but from sound to video footage ... it's all taken from the US ad. That's getting ... weird. HunterCham 16:11, 20 June 2010 (EDT)

Even the Robotrack font is from the Transformers logo font! --Khajidha 17:56, 20 June 2010 (EDT)

Seems like it could be a Trasformer type deal, where they used the toys, but avoided Hasbro trademarks. --abates 18:13, 20 June 2010 (EDT)

Trasformer as a line was fully licensed in every incarnation. First from Takara later from Hasbro. Omega has been released in a number of country's outside of the TF line proper as it was a separate license similar to official cousins of Shockwave being out there. Argus (talk) 09:42, 1 May 2014 (EDT)

Platinum Series

Is it safe to say that Platinum Series Omega Supreme is his G1 incarnation, based upon the fact that the similar-in-purpouse Amazon-exclusive Unicron is blatantly his G1 incarnation as well? 86.185.112.239 07:08, 13 October 2012 (EDT) (sorry, I forgot my password for my account. I'll make a new one soon.)

It's far from definitive, but I'd say that big spinny claw-hand marks him as the WfC version. - Chris McFeely 08:49, 13 October 2012 (EDT)

Yeah, the claw-hand, is an exact match for the WfC model. It's harder to tell, but I think the head is from WfC too. Jalaguy 10:11, 13 October 2012 (EDT)

Statue "in scale with G1 toys"?

In regards to the the statue under Merchandise

"Omega Supreme was released as a statue in 2008 by Diamond Select Toys. He was sculpted by Mark Wong of Art Asylum and limited to 1,000 pieces. He's in scale with G1 toys."

I'm really baffled as to what that last line implies. There certainly isn't a consistent scale between the vehicle modes of the G1 toys overall, and they don't really match up with the character's relative heights in the comics or cartoon either. It might mean something if he was "in scale with Alternator Toys" I suppose, but how would you even tell with Omega? It's not like he really has a standard size or a real vehicle to compare to. Is it just trying to say the statue is pretty big?

Unless I'm missing something, apologies if I am, that line should either be removed or clarified.

Soundwarp SG-1 00:00, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, that really isn't true and should have been removed years ago. I've corrected that oversight. Thank you for bringing it up. --Khajidha 01:07, 5 May 2013 (EDT)

It really is true. He is the same size as his g1 toy and this in scale with the G1 toyline line as a much nicer version of Omega of the same size as the original toy. This should be returned but maybe clarified? I'm not sure how it can be misinterpreted but it seems it's easy enough to do. Argus (talk) 09:41, 1 May 2014 (EDT)

Saying he's the same size as his original toy is not the same as saying he is in scale with G1 toys. Scale has to do with how the size of the toy relates to the size of the real object. There really was no scale during G1. For example, Optimus Prime and Huffer should be roughly the same size as their vehicle modes are virtually identical but the toys are far different in size. Your contention that it is "a much nicer version" is a matter of opinion, as many fans would take any actual transforming toy over any statue (no matter how pretty). Finally, is it really that interesting that this statue is the same size as his original toy? --Khajidha (talk) 14:12, 1 May 2014 (EDT)

Well saying he's the same size as the original and therefore in scale with the G1 toys is ehh really the same? This has nothing to do with the scale at which the toys relate to any real life object. If such an object even exists.

Me regarding it as better is indeed subjective. Hence it being typed here and not in the article. Argus (talk) 06:18, 4 May 2015 (EDT)

The "same size as the original" and "the same scale as the original" are 2 different things. Scale literally means in relation to the real object. There is no such thing as "in scale with the G1 toys". If you mean "the same size as the original", then say so. --Khajidha (talk) 10:14, 4 May 2015 (EDT)

War for Cybertron Seige

Does anyone have an image for the Seige figure?--Metalstar (talk) 13:41, 11 January 2019 (EST)

It hasn't been seen yet, so no. --Sabrblade (talk) 15:36, 11 January 2019 (EST)

DAMMIT!--Metalstar (talk) 13:57, 22 January 2019 (EST)

Looks like we have one now.--Metalstar (talk) 13:36, 7 February 2019 (EST)

Omega Spreem footnote

I was reading Omega Supreme and Omega Spreems bios and they don't sound like they're the same bot. I'm not sure how to explain this without having to split Spreem off this page. Edit: The tech spec stats are also different too... urgh. (Likely it's a copywriter issue, but that's more a theory). Poliwag06 (talk) 11:20, 26 March 2024 (EDT)

Given the generally low quality of end-stage G1 bios, there is no need for such an explanation. Spreem's head is clearly supposed to be Supreme's, and we know both spellings were used behind the scenes during the AM process. --Thylacine 2000 (talk) 11:38, 26 March 2024 (EDT)