Användardiskussion:Dan Koehl
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Deletion
[Redigera]I deleted the article Grenna Glass. --Unger (diskussion) 14 december 2014 kl. 18.13 (CET)
Hej
[Redigera]Hej Dan Koehl,
Jag är en användare från it:wikivoyage (också administratör där). Jag har sett att du blev administratör på sv:voy. Jag ville bara säga grattis och lycka till med detta projektet, som var nästan övergivna innan dina ankomst och jag var ledsen över det. Om du behöver något eller önskar du kollaboration med it:voy, kan du gärna kontakta mig. Hej då (förlåt mina jättedåliga kunskaper av svenska)--Nastoshka (diskussion) 19 mars 2015 kl. 22.27 (CET)
Pagebanner
[Redigera]Hi Dan, if you want I can import here the necessary template to manage the banner. But considering that I admin it:voy, I'm more confident with "my" template instead of the one of the other language version. Let me know if this is suitable for you. In the affermative case I'll proceed and I'll let you know where/what you have to translate Italian into Swedish. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 21 mars 2015 kl. 17.50 (CET)
- Yes, please do Andyrom75, Im sure I can convert it to Swedish version later, once I see how it looks and works. Thanks alot for your support, Dan Koehl (diskussion) 21 mars 2015 kl. 17.56 (CET)
- See MediaWiki-diskussion:Common.js#Patch for Pagebanner and MediaWiki-diskussion:Common.css#Patch for Pagebanner. I need it before proceding. PS I'm asking this to you because only admin can change MediaWiki pages. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 21 mars 2015 kl. 18.31 (CET)
- Done! Dan Koehl (diskussion) 21 mars 2015 kl. 18.56 (CET)
- Please apply also this one. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 21 mars 2015 kl. 18.59 (CET)
- Done. There was an error message, saying that import made some problems of paralell import, and suggestion to use <link> instead, men I just follwed your recommendation. Lets see if it runs as ist should, or else maybe change it. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 21 mars 2015 kl. 21.14 (CET)
- I know that message, it's fine this way. Now banner works :-) See Florens.
- Wow, looks very nice! Dan Koehl (diskussion) 21 mars 2015 kl. 22.40 (CET)
- Now you should translate some texts and category names inside Mall:Pagebanner. Then you should decide if you would like to integrate the infobox (here called Mall:Stadsfakta) together with pagebanner (like I've done in it:voy with the template called Quickbar) or to keep them separated. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 21 mars 2015 kl. 22.31 (CET)
- I took a look on Firenze and couldnt really see how the factbox is integrated with the pagebanner? They look separated to me, and simalair to Florens? is there any example I can see where the difference is more obvious?
- Ill look into the categories you mentioned above. It looks better now, thanks, so far! Dan Koehl (diskussion) 21 mars 2015 kl. 23.53 (CET)
- I was talking of the template integration, not about a graphical difference. Look the wikicode of it:Firenze. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 21 mars 2015 kl. 23.57 (CET)
- Now I see what you mean. It seems that QuickbarCity has some extended functions compared with Mall:Stadsfakta, would that get integrated as well? I think its difficault to decide this now. I cant get an overview of the advantage of integration. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 00.07 (CET)
- Integration mainly allow two advantages:
- identical layout in each article, preventing user typos
- simplify the creation of monitoring categories
- Note that it:Template:QuickbarCity is just one type of it:Template:Quickbar. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 22 mars 2015 kl. 00.29 (CET)
- OK, thats sounds optimal, thanks for suggesting it. yes, the Quickbar integration will absolutely be a good choice, what needs to be done? And do they use the same in the english version, I actually had problem going through the code and categpries mentioned above, in Italian. English would be easier. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 00.36 (CET)
- Hi Dan, as I've already said, I'm also willing to help you out. My colleague and friend Andyrom75 is however much more expert and confident with technical stuff such as templates. Regarding translation it-->sv, instead, this is a task I can take care of. As you've seen my Swedish is not perfect (I've been in Sweden only for 4 months) but it I could help you explaining what a parameter means and giving some suggestions for the swedish translation.
- I'll let Andyrom answer your last question. I would just say that our Quickbar templates derive from the english ones but we've done some improvements. They're more flexible and have some particularities. Another difference is in the Quickbar type called "QuickbarCity". We've just one template (Mall) for cities whereas en.voy distinguish between huge and small city. It can be useful for you to distinguish between Storstad, samhälle, by osv.. in order to create maintenance categories and more types of articles, but I think that at this stage of sv:voy is not so urgent to distinguish between them. If I've said something wrong about these template, Andyrom will correct me soon surely. Hej då Dan! :) Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 01.47 (CET)
- OK, thats sounds optimal, thanks for suggesting it. yes, the Quickbar integration will absolutely be a good choice, what needs to be done? And do they use the same in the english version, I actually had problem going through the code and categpries mentioned above, in Italian. English would be easier. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 00.36 (CET)
- Integration mainly allow two advantages:
- I know that message, it's fine this way. Now banner works :-) See Florens.
- Done. There was an error message, saying that import made some problems of paralell import, and suggestion to use <link> instead, men I just follwed your recommendation. Lets see if it runs as ist should, or else maybe change it. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 21 mars 2015 kl. 21.14 (CET)
- Please apply also this one. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 21 mars 2015 kl. 18.59 (CET)
- Done! Dan Koehl (diskussion) 21 mars 2015 kl. 18.56 (CET)
- See MediaWiki-diskussion:Common.js#Patch for Pagebanner and MediaWiki-diskussion:Common.css#Patch for Pagebanner. I need it before proceding. PS I'm asking this to you because only admin can change MediaWiki pages. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 21 mars 2015 kl. 18.31 (CET)
Each language has its own standard. en:voy do not use quickbar, but fr:voy, de:voy, ru:voy, etc... use it, even if with different template, parameters, etc. So, if you want I can add here the Quickbar templates used in it:voy, than, Nastoshka can translate them from Italian to Swedish where needed. Let us know, --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 22 mars 2015 kl. 02.27 (CET)
- Yes Andyrom75, please add the Quickbar templates used in it:voy, that would be great, because even Mall:Pagebanner was a difficault challenge to translate, maybe Nastoshka would care to look into that one also. Thanks so much. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 02.37 (CET)
- Mall:Pagebanner Done Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 03.44 (CET)
- Could you give me the flag of importer? I would try to import a group of template instead of copying it one by one. If I succeed I'll save a lot of time. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 22 mars 2015 kl. 03.45 (CET)
- Mall:Pagebanner Done Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 03.44 (CET)
No sorry, this wiki is strange the only user right an admin can change for other users is excemption from IP-block, all other things is only for bureucrat. So we need a stewart for that. In case you ask someone, please ask them to grant User:SteinsplitterBot at nomination page. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 03.55 (CET)
- It takes time. Are you skilled on template import? --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 22 mars 2015 kl. 04.01 (CET)
- It depends on what it means. So since Im not sure, I guess Im not very skilled. But Im willing to try. maybe I did it before without knowing that I was doing that. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 04.04 (CET)
- All the pages included in this category must be imported, possibly with few click intead of manually. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 22 mars 2015 kl. 04.12 (CET)
- I looked on them Andyrom75, and it seems they all should be translated? Or do you want me to to just bring them in fast and change later? It will be a a major work with the translations. And here at our side, we will be powerless, not knowing what the content says at all. But since we are in a hurry, do you want me to just create those tamplates here now? Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 04.22 (CET)
- All the pages included in this category must be imported, possibly with few click intead of manually. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 22 mars 2015 kl. 04.12 (CET)
- It depends on what it means. So since Im not sure, I guess Im not very skilled. But Im willing to try. maybe I did it before without knowing that I was doing that. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 04.04 (CET)
- Dan, why you don't ask also for bureucrat rights? Normally on small wikis admin are also bureaucrat. If you open a "nytt ämne" i Wv:Salongen, we'll vote for you and you can ask steward to give you the rights. --Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 04.13 (CET)
- Nastoshka, I was told today by a stewart that: SORRY. We stewards do not grant temporary bureaucrat flags., and Your wiki is too small to keep any bureaucrat.. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 04.17 (CET)
- Quite strange, but ok. We'll find another solution. You can import pages following Andyrom75 or we'll make a request for Andyrom. Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 04.25 (CET)
- Nastoshka, I was told today by a stewart that: SORRY. We stewards do not grant temporary bureaucrat flags., and Your wiki is too small to keep any bureaucrat.. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 04.17 (CET)
I guess the best thing would be to rech a Stewart through IRC and see to that Andyrom gets the import rights. It will be faster and safer. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 04.28 (CET)
- Dan, within Wikivoyage, bureaucrat and admin is the same role. And I've noticed that the import feature is available only to admin. You can try to import by yourself, or I can try but I need to became admin first.
- However. See Venedig that is complete. Now everything works but the "Location map". I could force the show of the map for this article but I'm afraid that this would complicate the import procedure afterwards, so I won't do it.
- Now I deserve some sleep :-) Goodnight. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 22 mars 2015 kl. 04.28 (CET)
- Tanto grazie buona Notte! :) Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 04.30 (CET)
- Dan, before adding the banner to more articles, I would suggest you to wait to apply the QuickbarCity (for city). In this way I'll do the job just once. In the meanwhile I'll import all the other Quickbars, to allow you to use the right Quickbar template for each article. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 22 mars 2015 kl. 09.08 (CET)
- I've added all the Quickbars here as well. Now you can see the following examples:
- QuickbarCity a part, that needs the support of "Mall:Location map", all the others are already technically "perfect" and ready to be used. Once translated in Swedish can also be applied to all the articles. In the meanwhile I'll disable the use of "Location map" to avoid bad layout. We'll turn it on afterwards.
- Dan, before adding the banner to more articles, I would suggest you to wait to apply the QuickbarCity (for city). In this way I'll do the job just once. In the meanwhile I'll import all the other Quickbars, to allow you to use the right Quickbar template for each article. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 22 mars 2015 kl. 09.08 (CET)
- Tanto grazie buona Notte! :) Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 04.30 (CET)
Bot
[Redigera]Please flag my bot as per Wikivoyage:Nominering av robotar. It would be quicker to perform a mass change of the articles once the Quickbar have been translated. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 22 mars 2015 kl. 09.48 (CET)
- The user rights for admins here at sv.wikivoyage.org does not cover approving bots, but I will apply at Meta-Wiki for your bot.Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 11.11 (CET)
- I have applied at Meta-Wiki. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 11.22 (CET)
- Being an admin, I think that you should be able to manage yourself. Look at Special:UserRights/Andyrom_bot. If you can access it, you can flag the "bot" option and save. If you succeed, you can delete the request in meta. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 22 mars 2015 kl. 13.04 (CET)
- I have applied at Meta-Wiki. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 11.22 (CET)
- Sorry, no, as admin I dont have those rights, for some reson, the only rights an admin has here is to grant IP-block exemption on users, all other things are restricted to crat, which is very odd. Ihave sent personal message to help to 2 stewards. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 13.08 (CET)
- Ok got it. In this case it would be quicker if I ask for adminship here. Now I have to go. See you. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 22 mars 2015 kl. 13.16 (CET)
- Yes, maybe, but admins dont have import rights. Sorry for this. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 13.32 (CET)
- I endorse the request for giving Andyrom bot the bot flag. However, Dan, I think admins can import also here. Could you please open this page: Special:Importera and see if you get the Import-interface? --Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 18.26 (CET)
- Yes, maybe, but admins dont have import rights. Sorry for this. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 13.32 (CET)
- Ok got it. In this case it would be quicker if I ask for adminship here. Now I have to go. See you. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 22 mars 2015 kl. 13.16 (CET)
- Sorry, no, as admin I dont have those rights, for some reson, the only rights an admin has here is to grant IP-block exemption on users, all other things are restricted to crat, which is very odd. Ihave sent personal message to help to 2 stewards. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 13.08 (CET)
It may work, What I see is a page with the text:
Importera sidor
Inga källor från vilka import ska göras har angivits och direkt uppladdning av historik har stängts av.
What would be the next step? Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 18.40 (CET)
- I suggest you to create another account and ask for bot flag to perform changes like the one of today, otherwise you'll flood the Recent Changes page. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 31 mars 2015 kl. 21.59 (CEST)
- Yes. I actually already registered User:KoehlBot here, but haven't asked for Botstatus yet, but I will do that. As long as theres just you and me active, its not the end of the world, but soon more users will start to contribute. Hopefully. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 31 mars 2015 kl. 22.10 (CEST)
översättning
[Redigera]Hej Dan,
Pagebanner is now translated. Please read Malldiskussion:Pagebanner to have a look of some parameters and my choices regarding their translation. --Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 03.43 (CET)
- Stort tack, Nastoshka, vad snyggt det blev! Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 03.44 (CET)
Re:Tack
[Redigera]Varsågod Dan!, nöjet är på min sida! :-D
Jag hade några tvivel i fråga om några översättningar. Kann du kontrollera om är de korrekta? I Mall:QuickbarPark det finns olika "Typ av område" och resp. kategoriernaa. De nuvarande följer den italienska och europeiska underavdelning. Du kan växla denna parameter efter den svenska lagen?
Jag har skrivit också denna sidor:
så att du kan förstår bättre hur Quickbar fungerar. I Venedig, Veneto, Italien och Florens ser du några exempel. Om du har fråga, svarar jag gärna.
I Florens och Venedig ser du inte kartan fortfarande, eftersom det saknar de Mallar som Andyrom ville importera. En exempel av kartor ser du här under "Posizione". --Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 15.39 (CET) --Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 15.39 (CET)
Mall:Man
[Redigera]Om du tillåter mig, jag skulle vilja omorganisera den här mall, så att alla röda länkar försvinner. --Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 17.59 (CET)
- Gör gärna det, jag snart gå igenom dina tidigare ändringar och se om något behöver korrigeras. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 18.02 (CET)
Special:Importera
[Redigera]Hi Dan, I'll write in English, so that Andyrom75 may understand and help you. You should see something like that:
or like that:
Where in the image is written "foundation" or "w" you should be able to choose it:voy and then fill in the white field with the name of the pages to be imported. Can you check? --Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 19.08 (CET)
- I thought that it should an interface something like that with options, so no I am sorry, admins on sv.voy dont have access to import, and cant grant other users this function. It seems that the admin user rights have been set very limited and restricted on this wiki... (could this be changed?)
- Its a frustating situation since I am crat on Wikispecies, and used to have access to most functions in situations like this. Presently those restrictions doesnt help anyone, since Im more or less the only user present on this wiki for months. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 19.17 (CET)
- This is a very strange wiki... Have you tried to contact a steward? Could it perhaps depend on the fact, you're only temporary admin? --Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 19.23 (CET)
Reg the temp, have no idea. Yes, I contacted one steward, and had answer ...Your wiki is too small to keep any bureaucrat....to grant other users admin rights, approve bots, or do anything with users rights etc. without bureaucrats, please ask at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Permissions or https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Bot_status .
Did you see that Andyrom bot is On hold till 29 March 2015? Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 19.41 (CET)
- I've seen. As soon you will have the permanent admin rights I'd suggest to ask a steward to change this weird settings of sv.voy and give you both crat and admin right, as on all other version of wikivoyage. Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 19.56 (CET)
Phabricator
[Redigera]Dan can you open a ticket on Phabricator? I've asked a steward and he says you need to open a ticket there to change this settings. Admin's rights are all set "false". It will take some days but then you'll be able to give flags to trusted users --Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 20.13 (CET)
- Thanks for looking into this, Ill open a ticket. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 20.29 (CET)
- Now the ticket is open, Nastoshka, please see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93532
Thanks for the suggestion. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 21.28 (CET)
QuickbarCity
[Redigera]Andyrom, almost all template have been imported by our great steward Vituzzu ;-) --Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 20.22 (CET)
- That was very nice of Vituzzu, feels good if everything started can be continues. And it looks so much better! Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 20.29 (CET)
- Dan, if you take a look at Venedig, now "Lokalisering" works fine. And also map-task is done ;-) --Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 20.38 (CET)
- Ser verkligen mycket bra ut, det här var ett viktgt initiativ ni tog för den här wikin, den kommer att vara mycket mer attraktiv för användare att bidra till när den är så pass mycket snyggare. Jag antar att jag nu kan uppdatera fler städer med QuickbarCity, och jag funderade just nu på om man helt enkelt kan döpa om QuickbarCity till Stadsfakta, och därmed enkelt konvertera alla faktaboxar till detta koncept? Men jag har inte tittat in på skripten och gjort en konsekvensanalys, det är bara en spontan tanke.
- Dan, if you take a look at Venedig, now "Lokalisering" works fine. And also map-task is done ;-) --Nastoshka (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 20.38 (CET)
- For sure it looks really good, this was a very important initiative you took for this wiki, which has become much more attractive for users to contribute to, since it looks so much better. I guess I can now start to update more cities with with the QuickbarCity template (when I looked on your Italian wiki I also discovered QuickbarRegion on Toscana) and I was thinking about if it would be possible to convert all factboxes in the cities just by renaming QuickbarCity to Stadsfakta, and automatically convert all cities here to this new concept? But I havent taken a closer look into the scripts yet and been able to do a consequens analysis of that, it just a sponatnous idea. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 21.04 (CET)
- Dan Koehl, once my bot has been flagged I'll convert every "*fakta" template into the new "Quickbar*", so, don't do the reverse. In this way, having the same template of it:voy, it would be easier to help you in case of need. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 22 mars 2015 kl. 23.39 (CET)
- For sure it looks really good, this was a very important initiative you took for this wiki, which has become much more attractive for users to contribute to, since it looks so much better. I guess I can now start to update more cities with with the QuickbarCity template (when I looked on your Italian wiki I also discovered QuickbarRegion on Toscana) and I was thinking about if it would be possible to convert all factboxes in the cities just by renaming QuickbarCity to Stadsfakta, and automatically convert all cities here to this new concept? But I havent taken a closer look into the scripts yet and been able to do a consequens analysis of that, it just a sponatnous idea. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 21.04 (CET)
- Sounds wonderful, so its just to wait for the bot to be granted... Once again a large THANKS for your invested hours. It means a lot. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 23.50 (CET)
- I've noticed that you and other users are addind directly Mall:Pagebanner instead of Mall:QuickbarCity. I suggest you to apply the second one instead of the first one, and lead the others on its use. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 24 mars 2015 kl. 17.28 (CET)
- Sounds wonderful, so its just to wait for the bot to be granted... Once again a large THANKS for your invested hours. It means a lot. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 22 mars 2015 kl. 23.50 (CET)
Future of sv voy
[Redigera]If I/we want you to let sv:voy grow, I/we need to provide you all the necessary tools to put you in the position to be autonomous ;-) --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 23 mars 2015 kl. 00.05 (CET)
- Yes Andyrom, I see no reason why sv.voy shouldnt grow, but just now I even think its good tobe able to fix the infrastructure on the site, so its prepared when larger numbers of users will come. I have experience from building up the sv.wikipedia.org I was the only contributor for months in 2002, and I and 2 other guys translated the older scropt to mediawiki php, and had it up 1st of December 2002. I became member number 3 and the first admin there. Created some 1500 articles in about two months and fixed up the infra structure from being a smallwiki run on the old UseMod.
- I am the user with the longest time of all present users on Wikispecies, where I am bureaucrat and admin since 2005. I have lately been able to contribute to that projects development as well, and I hope I learned a lot from those two wikis.
- I really believe this wiki may be much more active in just a couple of months, which is a major challenge, but it would be good, since the site for some reason has been almost completely dead since last summer. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 23 mars 2015 kl. 00.23 (CET)
- We need several other changes here, but soon the site would be ready for the growth ;-) --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 23 mars 2015 kl. 00.33 (CET)
- Unfortunately my annual holiday starts next week. But aftir it I can help. If there is something I can do as a non Swedish speaker, just let me know. I have made the Lua and Wikidata templates on Wikivoyage/de. If necessary I would apply as an admin, if you need help with such work.-- DerFussi (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 06.47 (CET)
- Thanks DerFussi. After March 29th (date on which my bot should get the bot flag) I will start the conversion of the old templates into the new ones. After that (and this means, when you'll came back from your edserved holidays ;-)) we can discuss about some Lua improvement for both it:voy and sv:voy (sharing the same template & module, with one patch we can get two benefits :-)).
- I think that we both can apply as admin so it would be quicker to provide future upgrade. In fact after the banner (done) and the Quickbar (WIP) I want to add also the listing and dynamic maps. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 24 mars 2015 kl. 13.07 (CET)
- Unfortunately my annual holiday starts next week. But aftir it I can help. If there is something I can do as a non Swedish speaker, just let me know. I have made the Lua and Wikidata templates on Wikivoyage/de. If necessary I would apply as an admin, if you need help with such work.-- DerFussi (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 06.47 (CET)
- This sounds like a good plan, and yes, pleaes apply for adminships. Im very happy that I wrote some lines on Meta-Wiki, Andyrom75, and that you suggested a transfer to the QuickCity, since I have seen how much easierthe work is, when so much gets automatically submitted, and with the bonus that it looks better. Until the 29th I will go thouh the infrastructure more, locate orphaned categories etc. and just have the site alive by adding some cities and regions. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 13.18 (CET)
- OK. I have written QUickbar/Infoboxes for towns and regions in Lua completely including full (optional) Wikidata support for maps, flags, capitals .... including imagemaps for all countries. We have also time templates that changes images by season (summer, winter)... I can transfer some of our basic Lua moduls for some error reporting ... Lets talk about your demands amd what is necessary to be implemented. ... Maybe I can apply on meta for an importer after adminship. So i can import all our imagemap modules for all the countries... But first... some holiday in Cambodia and Thailand.. :) -- DerFussi (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 13.29 (CET)
- Happy you! I lived in Cambodia for almost three years before returning to Sweden in August last year. I really like that country. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 13.35 (CET)
- Really? I have been there 7 times, but just for holiday... I love it.... Where do you live in Sweden. Will be in Stockholm for five days during my birthday on September 1st. -- DerFussi (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 13.37 (CET)
- (conflicted)
- Good DerFussi! By now you can submit for adminshop and then just think about your holidays, I'll ping you on your return ;-)
- Dan, In the meanwhile please check (and correct where needed) the template applied on each article because I've noticed few mistakes.
- I'm referring to the following pages:
- Special:Länkar_hit/Mall:Stadsfakta that will be converted into QuickbarCity
- Special:Länkar_hit/Mall:Regionsfakta that will be converted into QuickbarRegion
- Special:Länkar_hit/Mall:Landsfakta that will be converted into QuickbarCountry
- for example in the last one I've seen Madrid (region) that clearly is not a country, but a region. When you find this mistake, please correct them, applying manually the right new template. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 24 mars 2015 kl. 13.39 (CET)
- Dan, let me know if I was clear or if you have any doubt about it. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 25 mars 2015 kl. 08.46 (CET)
- Really? I have been there 7 times, but just for holiday... I love it.... Where do you live in Sweden. Will be in Stockholm for five days during my birthday on September 1st. -- DerFussi (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 13.37 (CET)
- Good plan, I will go through those articles today! Dan Koehl (diskussion) 25 mars 2015 kl. 09.42 (CET)
- Have you found any discrepency? --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 26 mars 2015 kl. 09.13 (CET)
- I have been intensively working with AWB on Wikispecies the whole night. (Thousand of places with links to categories that I deleted....)
- Maybe AWB can be used to correct and adjust things before the "major transfer"? Dan Koehl (diskussion) 26 mars 2015 kl. 09.27 (CET)
- AWB is what I'll use to convert the templates (after I'll got the bot flag to not flood the recent changes page), but manually should be corrected the current template wrongly applied. It will be quicker now than later. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 26 mars 2015 kl. 15.41 (CET)
- Have you found any discrepency? --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 26 mars 2015 kl. 09.13 (CET)
- Good plan, I will go through those articles today! Dan Koehl (diskussion) 25 mars 2015 kl. 09.42 (CET)
There is:
- 0 pages with the Template Stadsfakta
- You could have also used the above link that I've mentioned you. However, you should open manually those pages to be sure that the right template has been applied (i.e. if it's a city and not a region). --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 27 mars 2015 kl. 01.05 (CET)
- Considering that the explict use of the template:pagebanner have been performed in very few articles, I would ask you to convert those occurrence manually into Quickbar templates. This would simplify the logic of the bot that I have to write. Thanks. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 28 mars 2015 kl. 08.24 (CET)
Wikidata Module
[Redigera]I have created Quickbar modules and templates with full wikidata access. I would recreate these three templates for cities, regions and countries - but use the Swedish style. The usage is quite easy then and you can easily change the styles and even restyle single entries in your personal css-file. Would that be ok?-- DerFussi (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 19.01 (CET)
- DerFussi I would prefer to keep the current Quickbar templates that have already implemented, configured and translated. Maybe we can integrate and/or adapt some of your LUA functions into those templates. For easiness I can also test it first on it:voy then extend it here. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 24 mars 2015 kl. 21.13 (CET)
- Of course. I would not change the templates, just completely rewrite everything behind. Name, usage and style will be kept, of course. But after that it's easier to use, has full WD support, imagemaps and optional seals, flags, coat of arms, if people want to use it. Look at voy:de:Sabah. this is a QB derived from the "normal Region QB. Only population and area is given. If you hold your mouse pointer on an information you can see, that it's from WD. It could work the same way here. -- DerFussi (diskussion) 25 mars 2015 kl. 07.03 (CET)
- DerFussi, it:Modulo:Wikibase already contains several functions that are already used on it:Template:Quickbar. But not all the values are collected and formatted to be visualize in it. Maybe you can support on the developing of the missing one. If it sounds good for you, I can list them all now, and then provide you the "formatting specification". --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 25 mars 2015 kl. 08.51 (CET)
- The formatting will be by done in the quickbar module. Your wikibase module is written to be used in an template. I'll check how to use it,. Or maybe I will bring some own code. There is still one thing we did not solve as well. Sometimes there are more entrys in a WD object property (e.g. the population of a twon/area). IN that case we get all entroes comma separated in our quickbar. Not usefull in case of population. There can be set a priority on WD. Do you know how to pick the entry with the high priority?
- The quickbar module uses our location map modules. Is there something like that here? If not I'll import them all from de.-- DerFussi (diskussion) 26 mars 2015 kl. 08.10 (CET)
- Wikidata single values are already managed by current module/template. What is missing is exactly the multivalue ones. Maybe we can think about it together. Location map template have been already imported here (e.g. see Florens). --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 26 mars 2015 kl. 09.08 (CET)
- DerFussi, it:Modulo:Wikibase already contains several functions that are already used on it:Template:Quickbar. But not all the values are collected and formatted to be visualize in it. Maybe you can support on the developing of the missing one. If it sounds good for you, I can list them all now, and then provide you the "formatting specification". --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 25 mars 2015 kl. 08.51 (CET)
- Of course. I would not change the templates, just completely rewrite everything behind. Name, usage and style will be kept, of course. But after that it's easier to use, has full WD support, imagemaps and optional seals, flags, coat of arms, if people want to use it. Look at voy:de:Sabah. this is a QB derived from the "normal Region QB. Only population and area is given. If you hold your mouse pointer on an information you can see, that it's from WD. It could work the same way here. -- DerFussi (diskussion) 25 mars 2015 kl. 07.03 (CET)
- Yeah: we should think ybaout it and maybe ask WD or check some wikipedias how they solve it and get the high priority entry. On voy:de we use multiple entry properties and will get all entries comma separated, but in case of eg. population it looks bad. So our QBs work in the folowing way: Using a parameter in the QB and leave it empty:
|population=
the information is presented and the value is taken from WD (if its not available on WD you will get a link to the WT item with a "please add the value to WD..."). If you use the parameter and fill it|population= 1.245.256
this value will be given (you can always override WD locally). If you leave out the parameter completely, nothing is shown. So we distinguish between not given and empty parameters. I have also implemented a parameter check to all our Lua based templates. Unknown parameter will cause an error message and add the article to a check category. So writing|popullation=
will cause an error. Would that idea be good here on sv: as well?... And our region quickbars use imagmaps und jump to all the other regions of a country... But first I jump into a plane next Wednesday :) :) -- DerFussi (diskussion) 27 mars 2015 kl. 07.46 (CET)- More or less, also the current module/template has the same approach. What is missing and that can be added is the check of unknown parameters, this would be useful. Could you show me the code portion of this function? PS Good trip and have a safe flight! --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 27 mars 2015 kl. 09.37 (CET)
- All (all my own) modules use the voy:de:Modul:Check. Every Module has a params-submodule (e.g. ) where every function has listed the possible parameters. You can even add a default value. To return your content to the template, just use
return errorStr .. check._testParams ( args, funcParams, 'Quickbar Region' ) .. display
. You can use common parameters to supress the error handling for one call (by using the template) or in general (by adding to the invoke call). The usage be using the template has mor priority than the one by invoke. These parameters are always valid. No need to add them to the /params submodule. When your function starts, you should read the arguments and parametersparams = mw.loadData('Modul:Quickbar Region/Params') funcParams = params['qb_region'] args = frame:getParent().args
... You can collect additional error messages on the way through your function witherrorStr = errorStr .. check._error ( 'Foo', 'Quickbar Region' )
.... Thats the very short version. How it works. But very useful and i use it in every module. There is also a check function to check images (sometimes people forget the brackets or use just one)..... The Check modul puts the affected articles to a maintenance category. Every modul has its own category (voy:de:Kategorie:Fehlerberichte Lua-Module... -- DerFussi (diskussion) 27 mars 2015 kl. 14.04 (CET)- Good, hopefully today I'll have a look at it. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 28 mars 2015 kl. 08.22 (CET)
- All (all my own) modules use the voy:de:Modul:Check. Every Module has a params-submodule (e.g. ) where every function has listed the possible parameters. You can even add a default value. To return your content to the template, just use
- More or less, also the current module/template has the same approach. What is missing and that can be added is the check of unknown parameters, this would be useful. Could you show me the code portion of this function? PS Good trip and have a safe flight! --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 27 mars 2015 kl. 09.37 (CET)
- Yeah: we should think ybaout it and maybe ask WD or check some wikipedias how they solve it and get the high priority entry. On voy:de we use multiple entry properties and will get all entries comma separated, but in case of eg. population it looks bad. So our QBs work in the folowing way: Using a parameter in the QB and leave it empty:
I've taken a look it, and I would like to implment a variant of what you have done that is slightly more in line on what we have in it:voy. Let me give you more details.
Using your syntax: "local localArgs = frame.args; local templateArgs = frame:getParent().args"
I would like to perform just 1 "for each parametro" cycle of templateArgs to check only the presence of unwanted parameters in "localArgs". If found to add this instrusction "output = output .. '[[:Categoria:Template con parametri errati]]<span class="quickbarinfo debuginfo" style="display:none;">PARAMETRO ERRATO: '.. parametro ..'</span>';"
where output is what it will be shown. Possibly at the very end of the output of a template.
Then who wants to debug it, can do it activating the relevant gadget, otherwise that span will be invisible to a visitor. While the category will still works as usual.
Let me know if it's clear or if I've explained myself in a blurred way :-) --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 28 mars 2015 kl. 12.19 (CET)
- The eroror tag has a special css class. If the community wants it, we can make it invisible and power user can switch it on with a personal css style. But I think even anonymous editors should see the error message. They should be forced to fix the problem by themselves, not by the handful of admins. If they can not fix the problem, they can ask. Besides you can supress the error message by a parameter. I would rather leave the message visible. The community seems to ffel ok with that as well. -- DerFussi (diskussion) 30 mars 2015 kl. 07.23 (CEST)
Admin nomination
[Redigera]Andyrom75, Nastoshka, DerFussi, My nomination for permanent admin was rejected at Meta-Wiki today with the following motivation: Not done, your current adminship is still running until 19 June..
I guess, technically, I can not apply for something which I already am, but I wanted to get a permanent role, elected by communiy, and not the present temorary adminship, which may be restricted in user rights, I dont know.
Not sure what to do now. I guess I could apply for crat, and if the community accept, then I can once again apply at Meta. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 16.24 (CET)
- I've already written in meta. Don't worry about that, after this interim period you'll be a permanent admin, don't doubt about it ;-) I'ts just a matter of time... --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 24 mars 2015 kl. 17.26 (CET)
- As Andyrom75 said, don't worry. It's just a technical refusal, since you're already admin here. I have just one question about it and a steward on Meta was asking the same on the page where you requested the temporary adminship. There is actually a crat of sv.voy (Riggwelter), which even tough not active on wikivoyage is still very active on wikipedia and commons. Why don't you ask (and didn't) him to give you the flag? It would be much more easier for us and for you and we wouldn't have to pass through meta. And I think you must ask him before asking permanent adminship on meta (if he doesn't accept) because that page on Meta is only for wikis without crats. --Nastoshka (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 20.16 (CET)
- Yes you are right Nastoshka, and I dont think Im worried, I was just a little surprised regarding the routines, and felt a little bit stupid that I didnt know this. But then agin, I was never a temp admin before. I think the most important thing is that the people at incubator change the user rights for admins here. Reg Riggwelter or other previous users here, I dont think that he or anyone else has been active here for almost a year. You can see one users who asked for adminship last summer. Not a comment, no life, no interest. Its like a culture, or a civilzation went under, and left the houses and ruines. Thier reasons, well I guess all Wikimedia stuff is volontarily, we never have any plights, evn if some roles and user rights are connected to a larger responsability. Its just to accept. Hopefully old users may return i they see that theres more activity here. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 25 mars 2015 kl. 00.59 (CET)
- ...and so they have! Riggwelter (diskussion) 6 april 2015 kl. 14.12 (CEST)
Using the correct Templates
[Redigera]Hi Dan,
I am a bit confused about which QuickBar/Infobox to take on state/federal state and city guides. Please give me a hint! ;-)
Greets, --Timmaexx (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 19.05 (CET)
- Hi -Timmaexx,
- for countries you should use Mall:QuickbarCountry. Greets --Nastoshka (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 20.17 (CET)
- Thank you very much, Nastoshka ! --Timmaexx (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 22.40 (CET)
- Im back again, thank you Nastoshka for helping out. I also found Mall:QuickbarRegion. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 22.51 (CET)
- Which QB shall I use in the guide for the german federal state (Bundesland) North Rhine-Westphalia (Nordrhein-Westfalen)? QuickBarRegion oder QuickBarDistrict? --Timmaexx (diskussion) 27 mars 2015 kl. 12.48 (CET)
- Im back again, thank you Nastoshka for helping out. I also found Mall:QuickbarRegion. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 22.51 (CET)
- Thank you very much, Nastoshka ! --Timmaexx (diskussion) 24 mars 2015 kl. 22.40 (CET)
- Good question... Im not sure at the moment. Maybe DerFussi can clear this out? Dan Koehl (diskussion) 27 mars 2015 kl. 13.58 (CET)
- In it:voy, we use the following criteria:
- QuickbarRegion is for division of countries or continents
- QuickbarDistrict is for division of cities
- --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 28 mars 2015 kl. 08.20 (CET)
- Good question... Im not sure at the moment. Maybe DerFussi can clear this out? Dan Koehl (diskussion) 27 mars 2015 kl. 13.58 (CET)
- Thanks Andyrom75 for the info. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 28 mars 2015 kl. 11.17 (CET)
Wikivoyage logo
[Redigera]Most of the logos used here in sv:voy are not updated with the lastest official ones. I suggest you to revise/replace them. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 28 mars 2015 kl. 12.22 (CET)
- Good idea, thanks for pointing that out. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 29 mars 2015 kl. 18.14 (CEST)
Den översta länken när man klickar på koordinater någonstans (eller söker på specialsidan) som heter "Wikipedia" går till en länkning som inte längre funkar. Jag antar att man måste vara admin för att ändra men det ska alltså ändras från "http://toolserver.org/~geohack/" till "http://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/". /Hangsna (diskussion) 29 mars 2015 kl. 20.35 (CEST)
- Märkligt, inte ens som admin kan man ändra filen... Dan Koehl (diskussion) 29 mars 2015 kl. 20.39 (CEST)
- Kan du inte? Det måste gå. Jag hittar dock inte sidan man ska ändra på, hittar du? (Det går ju inte redigera sidor i Special: på samma som sätt som artiklar redigerinas.) /Hangsna (diskussion) 2 april 2015 kl. 21.00 (CEST)
Mall:Okategoriserad
[Redigera]In your last updates, you have addeed a missing template. Is a clerical mistake or is something that you have to import here? --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 31 mars 2015 kl. 08.47 (CEST)
- Sorry, sometimes AWB submits a few items which i normally remove if I don't see any need in them, I didn't see that one, now its gone. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 31 mars 2015 kl. 10.59 (CEST)
Section titles
[Redigera]I would suggest you to uniform the section titles in terms of not adding (well, removing) the name of the article from them. It would be easier to refer with an anchor, or to look inside them with a bot, or to avoid to change them when the title of the article changes, etc... --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 31 mars 2015 kl. 20.19 (CEST)
- Sorry Användare:Andyrom75, Im not with you now, can you give an example? Dan Koehl (diskussion) 31 mars 2015 kl. 20.22 (CEST)
- Do you mean the change from {{PAGENAME}} into {{subst:PAGENAME}}?Dan Koehl (diskussion) 31 mars 2015 kl. 20.25 (CEST)
- Yes, I'm referring to it. It would be better to have == Section Title == instead of == Section Title for "this place" == --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 31 mars 2015 kl. 21.54 (CEST)
- Yes I agree Användare:Andyrom75. Ill look into this next time I go through the files. Will look into implementation of SteinsplitterBot now, it was just granted Botstatus, and its very good for overview of non-patrolled pages. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 31 mars 2015 kl. 22.03 (CEST)
- Yes, I'm referring to it. It would be better to have == Section Title == instead of == Section Title for "this place" == --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 31 mars 2015 kl. 21.54 (CEST)
- Do you mean the change from {{PAGENAME}} into {{subst:PAGENAME}}?Dan Koehl (diskussion) 31 mars 2015 kl. 20.25 (CEST)
Template
[Redigera]Hi, Do you have crated the template yet? Where is the template namespace here? --Steinsplitter (diskussion) 1 april 2015 kl. 09.20 (CEST)
- Dear Steinsplitter, here is your bot.
- I suggest that the backlog shall be placed at Patrullering, similair to where it is placed at Wikispecies. Can you please configure so it is updated every hour, or if you think its too often, every second hour, only to inspire future patrollers, when they see the results from their work fast? Dan Koehl (diskussion) 1 april 2015 kl. 14.00 (CEST)
QuickbarRegion
[Redigera]I've completed the migration of the above template. Please check the articles to be sure that everything is ok. Furthermore, please move the parameters of the pagebanner template into the correspective parameters inside the QuickbarRegion. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 1 april 2015 kl. 15.55 (CEST)
- Good job, thanks a lot Användare:Andyrom75!. I will look at the parameters of the pagebanner template, I guess you mean see to that they are integrated into the QuickbarRegion. I will apply for botstatus for KoehlBot, hope you can vote a for approval, so my edits don't fill up the latest changes. There will be a need for that users locally want the bot approved. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 1 april 2015 kl. 16.01 (CEST)
- Reading through this again Andy, I start to think Im not sure what you mean. What I did was inserting <!--banner.jpg--> everywhere after the |Banner=, but now I start to think that what you mean was that in case of page with a specified pagebanner before, the specific files should be inserted at |Banner= nameofthefile.jpg? Dan Koehl (diskussion) 1 april 2015 kl. 21.46 (CEST)
- Hi Dan, what Andyrom meant was exactly what you wrote in your second comment. On pages with Mall:Pagebanner you should remove this template and move the banner image in |Banner = in the QuickbarRegion.
- In addition, this morning I reviewed some of my translations and comment for the Mall:QuickbarRegion paramaters. The main change is from "Webbplats för turismus" to "Turistwebbplats". As you know bots and generally code prefer single word to phrases. Hope this new translation fits well. I beg your pardon if I'm not so active in this page at moment, but as I said I'm quite busy at work :( . --Nastoshka (diskussion) 1 april 2015 kl. 23.34 (CEST)
- Nastoshka, "Turistwebbplats" is excellent. And thanks for the xplanation, so Im doing the right thing when inserting <!--banner.jpg--> everywhere after the |Banner= ? Dan Koehl (diskussion) 1 april 2015 kl. 23.38 (CEST)
- It's optional but strong recommended in order to help users to understand they have to fill the field with an image from Commons without the prefix "File:". However I think that what Andyrom meant is something easier. Please make changes like this one, since if pagebanner and Quickbar are both present, then two big banners will be shown. --Nastoshka (diskussion) 1 april 2015 kl. 23.51 (CEST)
- I suggest you to look for them with AWB and to correct them manually. They are quite few. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 2 april 2015 kl. 00.53 (CEST)
- Yes, for sure, I will do that, it doesn't look good. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 2 april 2015 kl. 00.56 (CEST)
- I suggest you to look for them with AWB and to correct them manually. They are quite few. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 2 april 2015 kl. 00.53 (CEST)
- It's optional but strong recommended in order to help users to understand they have to fill the field with an image from Commons without the prefix "File:". However I think that what Andyrom meant is something easier. Please make changes like this one, since if pagebanner and Quickbar are both present, then two big banners will be shown. --Nastoshka (diskussion) 1 april 2015 kl. 23.51 (CEST)
- Nastoshka, "Turistwebbplats" is excellent. And thanks for the xplanation, so Im doing the right thing when inserting <!--banner.jpg--> everywhere after the |Banner= ? Dan Koehl (diskussion) 1 april 2015 kl. 23.38 (CEST)
QuickbarCity 2
[Redigera]Most of the articles have been migrate from Mall:Stadsfakta to Mall:QuickbarCity. I'm not able to complete the task tonight and tomorrow I'l be in holiday for few days. In the meanwhile you could check all the articles that do not have any QB template (and neither the remaining Stadsfakta ones), in order to manually add the most suitable Quickbar template according to the nature of the article. Enjoy :-) --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 2 april 2015 kl. 02.33 (CEST)
- I was planning to migrate the second part of this job in the next few days. I've seen that you have tried to do by your self but you have messed the code.... sorry to say... See for example Boston and Zagreb. You should revert all the changes that you have done. Please let me finished the task, because this is not an easy change. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 4 april 2015 kl. 08.20 (CEST)
- Oh, this sounds sad. I really thought you finished, so I started to transfer. Let me look into this, and how I can revert. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 5 april 2015 kl. 06.21 (CEST)
- This is the list of affected articles. The changes that you have to revert are the one tagged "clean up, replaced: Befolkning → Folkmängd (X) using AWB" that you have done on April 3rd between 17:24 and 17:34. You have changed Akureyri manually and that one is fine.
- Alternatively, you can follow my list, opening manually each file, and fix manually the wrong code. I would prefer this way, so that I can do something else, but please confirm me that you have understood the wikicode that you have to fix. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 5 april 2015 kl. 10.22 (CEST)
- Very good, working it manually is what I want to do, since I already started with this, and noticed that for each page I could easily add some basic missing information, and I want to do that, so at least the fct box has as much info as possible. I have looked into the code, and believe I have understood it, I think the ones I have changed, like Akureyri looks OK. Furthermore, for each location in Sweden that I update, I have contacted the tourist office here, and invited them to join the project.Dan Koehl (diskussion) 5 april 2015 kl. 13.02 (CEST)
- Ok good. Please bar
in this wayall the articles listed in my sandbox that you have cleaned, in this way I know the progress and I can double check. - Good for the tourist offices that you have contacted. Is a nice initiative. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 5 april 2015 kl. 15.16 (CEST)
- Any progress on Användare:Andyrom75/Sandbox? --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 7 april 2015 kl. 12.57 (CEST)
- Please Dan, give me an update with this task, is important to complete it before passing to further steps. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 11 april 2015 kl. 11.23 (CEST)
- Warm reminder :) --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 18 april 2015 kl. 17.48 (CEST)
- I've cleaned all the wrong double inclusions of pagebanner template when Quickbar is present. Please could you check and correct (where needed) all the articles listed in Användare:Andyrom75/Sandbox? Thanks, --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 21 april 2015 kl. 10.52 (CEST)
- Yes I will be happy to, just give me a couple of more days. Im just finishing the process of establishing 2 more bureaucrats on Wikispecies, (ending one years period when I initiated 8 new admins as well) and will soon have more time to invest here, provided this projects doesn't develop in a way, which made it end in the present situation. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 21 april 2015 kl. 12.25 (CEST)
- Ok. Take into account that next week I'll be in holiday. So if I can do anything within this week I'll be more than glad, otherwise I'll continue later. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 21 april 2015 kl. 17.06 (CEST)
- Could you confirm that the all the articles listed in Användare:Andyrom75/Sandbox have been fixed? --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.10 (CEST)
- Not yet, Im going through your list from the bottom, have 75 more to look through. Im adding pictures where nit existing etc, so it may take some 20-30 minutes more. Meanwhile, maybe you can take a look from which template the coordinates link starts? Its presently in Italian, and at labs with a language=it link, which will only make Swedish users confused. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.31 (CEST)
- Oh, thanks for highlight it. I'll fix it immediately. PS I suggest you to postpone the enrichment of the Quickbar values. Once finished there's another activity that IMO has an higher priority. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.35 (CEST)
- Not yet, Im going through your list from the bottom, have 75 more to look through. Im adding pictures where nit existing etc, so it may take some 20-30 minutes more. Meanwhile, maybe you can take a look from which template the coordinates link starts? Its presently in Italian, and at labs with a language=it link, which will only make Swedish users confused. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.31 (CEST)
- Could you confirm that the all the articles listed in Användare:Andyrom75/Sandbox have been fixed? --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.10 (CEST)
- Ok. Take into account that next week I'll be in holiday. So if I can do anything within this week I'll be more than glad, otherwise I'll continue later. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 21 april 2015 kl. 17.06 (CEST)
- Warm reminder :) --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 18 april 2015 kl. 17.48 (CEST)
- Please Dan, give me an update with this task, is important to complete it before passing to further steps. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 11 april 2015 kl. 11.23 (CEST)
- Any progress on Användare:Andyrom75/Sandbox? --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 7 april 2015 kl. 12.57 (CEST)
- Ok good. Please bar
- Very good, working it manually is what I want to do, since I already started with this, and noticed that for each page I could easily add some basic missing information, and I want to do that, so at least the fct box has as much info as possible. I have looked into the code, and believe I have understood it, I think the ones I have changed, like Akureyri looks OK. Furthermore, for each location in Sweden that I update, I have contacted the tourist office here, and invited them to join the project.Dan Koehl (diskussion) 5 april 2015 kl. 13.02 (CEST)
- Oh, this sounds sad. I really thought you finished, so I started to transfer. Let me look into this, and how I can revert. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 5 april 2015 kl. 06.21 (CEST)
Vapen
[Redigera]Hej Dan, några parameter kommer direkt från Wikidata eller ska kommer när vi blir färdig med mallar och översättningar. De är vapen, flagga, Fölkmängd, Huvudort (om förväntad), officiell webbplats, banner, postnummer och tidszon. För att inkalla en parameter från Wikidata behövs tva saker: Module:Wikibase och raden i Mall:Quickbar {{#invoke:Wikibase|PARAMETER_NAMN}}. I synnerhet, för vapen det redan fungerar och allt som du måste göra är, att tillägga i en Wikidata sida egenskapen d:P94 och fylla i med rätta bilden från Commons. För flaggan, egenskapen d:P41. Allt klar? --Nastoshka (diskussion) 2 april 2015 kl. 22.48 (CEST)
Listing - översättning
[Redigera]Jag gjorde mitt bästa för att översätta de italienska parametrar i Mall:Listing (se: Mall:Listing/dok) men de kan ändå vara fel. Jag upprepar för Riggwelter: Använder jag inte automatiska system som GoogleTranslate, studerade jag svenska på universität några år sedan men jag har aldrig haft mycket chans att verkligen förbättra mina kunskaper i detta språk.
I synnerhet, är jag inte allt säker på parametern "inrikting" som tjänar till att ge indikationer som t.ex: "framför järnvägsstation" eller "i gammla stan, tio minuter från hållplatsen X".
Jag lämnade på engelska "check-in" och "check-out". Jag kommer ihåg att, när jag har varit i Sverige, också svenskar använde vanligt de här engelska ord.
Om du har några förslag jag kommer gärna att göra rätt korrigeringar. --Nastoshka (diskussion) 5 april 2015 kl. 22.21 (CEST)
- Översatt och fixat! Riggwelter (diskussion) 6 april 2015 kl. 14.57 (CEST)
Välkommen, och bra gjort
[Redigera]Så Dan, välkommen till Wikivoyage! Ett sent välkomnande kanske, men inte desto mindre varmt. Som du ser har det varit låg aktivitet här under en längre tid, men jag hoppas att det skall ändra sig nu, särskilt med tanke på dina förnäma insatser hittills. Det är alltid bra med färskt blod!! Jag var själv med redan på Wikitraveltiden, ungefär som du jobbade med Wikipedia i dess begynnelse, och våra gemensamma erfarenheter av att dra igång något tror jag kommer att göra detta till ett bra och fruktsamt samarbete! Allt gott, Riggwelter (diskussion) 6 april 2015 kl. 14.56 (CEST)
Greetings
[Redigera]Hi... just want to let you know that i am not inactive. Just on vacation - that currently means, i am laying in my bed in Bangkok with stomach problems..... :( ... When I am back I will try to get an update here. Greetings -- DerFussi (diskussion) 11 april 2015 kl. 04.44 (CEST) If you have no other, or better idea, buy en:Metronidazole, take 2 tablets/day for 4 days, it will cure 95% of stomach problems, including most protozoans. As well as other shit, I normally take a round every second month in Asia. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 11 april 2015 kl. 04.56 (CEST)
New templates
[Redigera]I've fix minor things on the templates that you have imported. If those templates exist on other wikiproject like sv:w, it:voy, etc... link these new templates through Wikidata; sometimes it's helpful to compare the different implementations within those projects. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 23 april 2015 kl. 15.57 (CEST)
- Thank you Andy! Still there seems to be errors with some of those files. The main reason I imported them, was to make it easier to make user boxes, but this is still not working, after your corrections, see Mall:Antal Wikimedia redigeringar. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 23 april 2015 kl. 17.53 (CEST)
- I haven't check their functionality. From where you have imported them? ...if they were already in Wikidata I would have found it by myself ;-)
- I need to know it to see how it should work, to be able to fix it. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.06 (CEST)
- They were all imported from SvWp. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.09 (CEST)
- Ok, I'll look for them, and in case I'll found them, I'll create the Wikidata connections. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.11 (CEST)
- I can't find: Mall:Antal Wikimedia redigeringar, could you give me the sv:w wikilink? PS I've linked all the others. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.18 (CEST)
- I just saw that one was not a translated one, its not yet existing on SvWp. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.25 (CEST)
- So from where it has been imported from? I need to know to 1) link it on Wikidata 2) to see hoe it works --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.27 (CEST)
- I just saw that one was not a translated one, its not yet existing on SvWp. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.25 (CEST)
- I can't find: Mall:Antal Wikimedia redigeringar, could you give me the sv:w wikilink? PS I've linked all the others. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.18 (CEST)
- Ok, I'll look for them, and in case I'll found them, I'll create the Wikidata connections. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.11 (CEST)
- They were all imported from SvWp. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.09 (CEST)
I feel popular today, this is the latest statistics with questions on my talk page, not much time between them... :)
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I even got 2 edit conflicts when I tried to answer ONE of your questions! :)
Dan Koehl (diskussion) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.36 (CEST)
- ahha sorry but I'm in rush because I have an appointment right now so I need to get out. I'll open another thread. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.43 (CEST)
- And I am taking a pause in the work of cleaning up pages, because it impossible to do anything when I get 10 questions during 24 minutes. I haven't even read them all. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.50 (CEST)
Quickbar
[Redigera]I've just created Användare:Andyrom75/Sandbox2. Once you have finished with Användare:Andyrom75/Sandbox (the list that contains the article with Quickbar to be fixed, you can proceed with the second one that contains all the article that do NOT have any Quickbar. So you have to apply the most suitable one according to thei nature (i.e. country, region or city). If no one is applicable (e.g. mountain), skip it.
Once finished this task is became fundamental that Riggwelter will fix the Quickbar templates as I've written here few days ago, otherwise we couldn't proceed. --Andyrom75 (discussioni) 23 april 2015 kl. 21.47 (CEST)
- @Andyrom75:Eugh. I've forgotten this completely, sorry. How can I help? Riggwelter (diskussion) 26 april 2015 kl. 12.57 (CEST)
- Riggwelter try to read again this discussion. PS currently I'm holiday so I could answer with delays. Andyrom75 (discussioni) 26 april 2015 kl. 18.47 (CEST)
Kategori:Wikipedia:Sidor efter typ
[Redigera]Du som har en färsk version av AWB kanske kan ta på dig att kategorisera om medlemmarna i Kategori:Wikipedia:Sidor efter typ till något lämpligare? --- Innocent bystander (diskussion) 25 april 2015 kl. 10.59 (CEST)
- Det kan jag göra Innocent bystander, men frågan är vad man skall använda för ny benämning, vilken benämning skulle vara lämpligare? Dan Koehl (diskussion) 25 april 2015 kl. 17.34 (CEST)
- Kategori:Sidor efter typ eller Kategori:Wikivoyage:Sidor efter typ beroende på hur väl man vill betona att det rör sig om en metakategori. Det här är ju i vilket fall inte Wikipedia, så... -- Innocent bystander (diskussion) 25 april 2015 kl. 18.18 (CEST)
Back from holiday
[Redigera]Hi. I am back from holiday right now. Is there anything I could do right now to help? -- DerFussi (diskussion) 11 maj 2015 kl. 08.48 (CEST)
- Hallo, welcome back! Ich überlege, und melde mich gleich. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 11 maj 2015 kl. 08.58 (CEST)
Category
[Redigera]Like in Jalta the quickbar puts the article in a category with articles with missing maps "Articoli senza mappa". Can provide a suitable Swedish name for the category? MY Google translator says: "Artiklar med saknade kort" :) -- DerFussi (diskussion) 12 juni 2015 kl. 07.46 (CEST)
- "Artiklar utan karta" är en bra översättning./Johan Jönsson (diskussion) 3 augusti 2015 kl. 22.08 (CEST)
Your temporary access is going to expire soon
[Redigera]- Kanske dags att lägga upp en formell ansökan? -- Innocent bystander (diskussion) 16 juni 2015 kl. 13.02 (CEST)
- Det har du rätt i, och nu är det gjort. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 24 juni 2015 kl. 06.15 (CEST)
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Riggwelter (diskussion) 16 augusti 2015 kl. 12.46 (CEST)
- Tackar, då ökar jag aktiviteten. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 31 augusti 2015 kl. 23.54 (CEST)
Uppdatera syntax för mallar
[Redigera]Dan, du har ju arbetat hårt med att fixa våra befintliga mallar med de tjusiga bildhuvudena! Borde vi inte få med den förbättringen i våra artikelmallars syntax? Det vore förnämligt om du ville titta närmare på detta. Du finner syntax på den här sidan. Riggwelter (diskussion) 7 december 2015 kl. 17.10 (CET)
- Spontant tycker jag det låter som en bra ide, kan jag fixa, kolar din länk snarast. Jag har också funderat på att foten på de flesta sidor, bl.a. med länk till Svenska Wikipedia borde ligga i en liten mall istället för att behöva uppdateras enskilt på varje sida. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 7 december 2015 kl. 17.28 (CET)
- Jag tror mycket handlar om att stoppa in Quickbar-funktionaliteten i mallsyntaxen, så det går lätt att skapa nya artiklar. Det borde gå tämligen snabbt. Nu får man göra det manuellt och det är ju lite omständigt. Åh, en fråga till: hur skapar man en bannerbild? Riggwelter (diskussion) 7 december 2015 kl. 17.43 (CET)
- Om jag minns rätt så får man en default banner som delas med de andra språkprojekten genom att inte skriva någonting, eller använda <!--banner.jpg-->, men det går ju också att ange en specificerad sökväg. Saknas lämplig banner för en artikel kan den laddas upp till https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikivoyage_banners_of_Sweden eller valfritt annat land. Om du med skapandet så har jag i photoshop använt formatet 1 800 × 255.
- Har du någon åsikt om sidfoten, och mall för denna? Dan Koehl (diskussion) 7 december 2015 kl. 18.03 (CET)
- Dessvärre har jag inte Photoshop... jag är dock inte säker på med vad du avser med sidfot i detta fall, och länk till svwp? Riggwelter (diskussion) 7 december 2015 kl. 18.14 (CET)
OK... men det finns ju mycket funktioner online, tex. http://jpeg-optimizer.com/ där du kan banta ner bilden från Clifden så den laddar snabbare. Clifden blev att bra exempel, för där finns ju ingen länk till SvVikin, så jag förstår din förvirring. Om du kikar längst ner på Galway så finns en överskrift Läs mera, samt Wikipedia har en artikel om: Galway och Wikimedia Commons har media som rör Galway. Längst ner på sidan också en box med texten: Den här artikeln innehåller material från Wikipedias artikel om Galway . Här finns en historik över dess bidragsgivare.
Det är detta jag menar med sidfot, vilken jag lagt in manuellt på nästan alla sidor, och som väl borde ligga i en mall istället, som automatiskt läggs i slutet av alla artiklar om en ort etc, men förstås ej i alla sidor på sajten. Jag tänkte att jag kunde fixa detta också när jag får tid, och undrar om du har synunkter/förslag kring detta och innehållet i sidfoten? Dan Koehl (diskussion) 7 december 2015 kl. 20.30 (CET)
Jag gjorde en mall, Mall:Sidfot, där man kan lägga in sådant som passar att vara med i slutet av de sidor som rör städer, länder etc. Byter ut från Läs mera till mallen. Såg att några sidor kan behöva speciallösningar, dels de som harbindetsreck i namnet, men ej har det på SvVp, och de sidor där man lagt in länk till DMOZ, vilket tack vare sin katalogstruktur är svårar att automatlänka till med mallar. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 9 december 2015 kl. 18.00 (CET)
- Nu hittade jag en Connemarabanner på Commons, så lite bättre blev det ju... även om det blev misstänkt likt ett skärgårdslandskap i Sverige, haha! Tack för tipset om jpeg-optimizer, jag fann någon annan onlinetjänst, men den blev kass... Så till sidfoten: den kom ursprungligen till då Wikitravel blev Wikivoyage, men innan WMF tog över. Man laddade ner hela databasen och behövde då attribuera Wikivoyages innehåll till Wikitravel; men den har inget att göra med Wikipedia. Generellt sett bör vi inte länka hur som helst till Wikipedia, utan bara i de artiklar där vi faktiskt tagit information från Wikipedia. Det är viktigt att skilja på dem så långt möjligt, eftersom Wikipedia är ett lexikon och Wikivoyage är en reseguide, inte ett reselexikon. Det är svårt med balansgången där, det medges, men Wikivoyage bygger på att någon varit där själv och skrivit om sina upplevelser. "Läs mera"-rubriken bör vi inte ha (och har egentligen aldrig haft), för den passar bara i ett lexikon. Wikivoyage är gjort för att i första hand skrivas ut, därav frånvaron av externa länkar/wikilänkar till höger och vänster; man räknar inte med att folk har tillgång till internet. Nu är det möjligt att man måste ta ett nytt grepp om hela den frågan, med tanke på utbyggnaden av mobilt internet, men jag har inte bevakat frågan på enwv och systersajter. Riggwelter (diskussion) 9 december 2015 kl. 21.59 (CET)
@Riggwelter:, jag har tagit bort Läs mera på alla artiklar och ersatt med mallen sidfot, som just nu är tom, men kan fyllas med relevant text vid behov. Dan Koehl (diskussion) 11 december 2015 kl. 00.05 (CET){{}}
Varna/blockera
[Redigera]Hej Dan! Du behöver inte substa varnings- och blockeringsmallar, utan det går bra att bara använda (till exempel) {{K2}}. Bra även om du signerar varningarna, jämför denna version och den av mig något fixade versionen. Riggwelter (diskussion) 24 februari 2018 kl. 11.42 (CET)
Återtagande av administrativa rättigheter
[Redigera]Hej Dan! I enlighet med vår policy får administratörer som inte redigerat på tre månader eller mer sina administrativa rättigheter återtagna. Därför har du nu fått dina rättigheter återkallade. Jag vill tacka dig för den fina insats du gjort för svvoy! Om du framledes skulle vilja bli administratör igen är du välkommen att ansöka. Riggwelter (diskussion) 21 januari 2019 kl. 21.40 (CET)
ICQ
[Redigera]Hej @Dan Koehl:. Jag har sett att du på vissa av Wikimedias wikier listar att du fortfarande använder dig av tjänsten ICQ. Jag kan meddela att ryska VK (som äger ICQ sedan 2010) för en och en halv vecka sedan meddelade att ICQ och alla dess underliggande tjänster kommer att stängas ned om lite drygt tre veckor, närmare bestämt den 26 juni. Det ges en vink om detta på ICQ:s egen webbplats, men mer utförlig information om ämnet tillhandahålls till exempel på den här sidan i the Verge och även här, av Perplexity AI. Vänligen, Tommy Kronkvist (diskussion), 3 juni 2024 kl. 21.43 (CEST).
IP-kontrollant
[Redigera]Hej Dan. Scott Thomson (Wikispecies: species:User:Faendalimas) och jag behöver så snabbt som möjligt komma i kontakt med dig angående en IP-kontroll på Wikispecies. Diskussionen måste hållas privat, än så länge, innan vidare rapport till Ombudskommissionen. Har du fått hans mejl till dig, daterat 24 juli? Vänligen, Tommy Kronkvist (diskussion), 26 juli 2024 kl. 10.19 (CEST).
- jag kollar Dan Koehl (diskussion) 28 juli 2024 kl. 20.09 (CEST)