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Suppose $\Phi_\theta$ is a quantum channel whose action can be written for any state $\rho\in \mathcal S(\mathcal H_S)$ in the Stinespring representation as $\Phi_\theta(\rho)= \text{Tr}_E(U_\theta (\rho_S\otimes \tau_E) U_\theta^\dagger)$ for some unitary $U_\theta$ living on the total space $S\otimes E$. Suppose also that, if $a = (a_1, b_1,...,a_n, b_n)^t$ is the vector of the combined modes describing the system $S$ (so that the initial state of the system $\rho_S$ can be written as some function $\rho_S=f(a, a^\dagger)$), such unitary is described by its action on them $U_\theta a^\dagger U_\theta^\dagger=u_\theta a^\dagger$ for some matrix $u_\theta$.

The quantum Fisher information of a state $\rho_\theta$ is generally defined as $H(\theta) = \text{Tr}(\partial_\theta \rho_\theta L_\theta)$, where $L_\theta$ is the SLD operator. More explicitly, there exists the following formula $$H(\theta) = 2\int_0^{+\infty} dt \ e^{-\rho_\theta t}\partial_\theta \rho_\theta e^{-\rho_\theta t}$$ which only involves $\rho_\theta$ and its derivatives. Assuming knowledge of $u_\theta$, is there a simple way to express the QFI for a channel such as $\Phi_\theta$, in terms of any initial state $\rho$?

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  • $\begingroup$ Can you perhaps provide a definition for $\rho_{\theta}$? $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 14 at 3:15
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    $\begingroup$ @flippiefanus $\rho_\theta=\Phi_\theta(\rho)$ I presume $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 14 at 18:00
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    $\begingroup$ To rephrase: this is a bosonic system subject to a (linear optics) unitary transformation and loss; is there a simple expression for QFI in that case? $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 14 at 18:02
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    $\begingroup$ Some possible simplifications: we know $U_\theta=\exp(i \mathbf{r}_\theta\cdot \mathbf{G})$ for the vector of generators $\mathbf{G}$ of SU($2n$). If $\mathbf{r}_\theta=\theta\mathbf{n}$ for fixed $\mathbf{n}$, as is often the case, the QFI will be $\leq$ Var${}_{\rho_\theta}(\mathbf{n}\cdot\mathbf{G})$. Alternatively, if $\rho_S$ and $\tau_E$ are pure, then we know QFI equals the max QFI over purifications of $\rho_\theta$, one of which is the pure state $U_\theta(\rho\otimes \tau)U_\theta^\dagger$, so the QFI $\leq$ (and maybe saturates) Var${}_{\rho\otimes \tau} (-i dU/d\theta U^\dagger)$ $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 14 at 18:13
  • $\begingroup$ @flippiefanus Yes, $\rho_\theta = \Phi_\theta(\rho)$. $\endgroup$
    – Quantastic
    Commented Jan 14 at 23:10

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Imagine you have access to the auxiliary mode $\tau_E$ and want to find the quantum Fisher information of that scenario. The true QFI will be upper bounded by that, because the information in $\rho_\theta$ is strictly less than the information in the joint system.

Since $U_\theta(\rho_S\otimes\tau_E)U_\theta^\dagger\equiv |\Psi_\theta\rangle\langle\Psi_\theta|$ is pure by construction ($\rho_S=|\psi\rangle\langle \psi|$ and $\tau_E=|0\rangle\langle 0|$ and $|\Psi_\theta\rangle\equiv U_\theta|\psi\rangle\otimes |0\rangle\equiv U_\theta |\Psi_0\rangle$), its QFI is found to be $$H(\theta)=4(\langle \partial_\theta\Psi_\theta|\partial_\theta\Psi_\theta\rangle-|\langle \Psi_\theta|\partial_\theta\Psi_\theta\rangle|^2)=4(\langle\Psi_\theta|G^2|\Psi_\theta\rangle-\langle\Psi_\theta|G|\Psi_\theta\rangle^2)=4(\langle\psi|\otimes\langle 0|G^2|\psi\rangle\otimes|0\rangle-\langle\psi|\otimes\langle 0|G|\psi\rangle\otimes|0\rangle^2),$$ where the last equality used unitary invariance of the variance of the generator $G\equiv -i (\partial U_\theta/\partial \theta) U_\theta^\dagger$. In this case, $U_\theta$ is an SU($2n$) operation represented by a $2n\times 2n$ matrix $u_\theta$ and so $G$ will be a linear combination of the generators of SU($2n$). The coefficients of the linear combination may depend on $\theta$, depending on the form of $u_\theta$. One set of generators contains all of the generators of the form (cf wiki) $c_i c_j^\dagger +c_i^\dagger c_j$ ($i\neq j$), $\mathrm{i}(c_i c_j^\dagger -c_i^\dagger c_j)$ ($i\neq j$), and $c_1^\dagger c_1 -c_j^\dagger c_j$ ($j>1$) for $\mathbf{c}=(a_1,b_1,\cdots, a_n,b_n)$. Since $G$ is a linear combination of those, its variance is given by the sum of all of the covariances of those generators. The generators with odd $i$ and $j$ deal with variances with respect to the original state $|\psi\rangle$ and depend on both $|\psi\rangle$ and the form of $U_\theta=\exp(i G)$. (The form of $u_\theta$ told us that $G$ was made from generators of SU($2n$).) The generators with even $i$ and/or $j$ all have their expectation values vanish, because all of the $b$ modes start in their vacuum states, except for the final $n-1$ generators that retain the term $c_1^\dagger c_1=a_1^\dagger a_1$ that can have nonzero expectation value. As for their second-order moments, many of them vanish but not all, because for example $\langle (c_i c_2^\dagger +c_i^\dagger c_2)(c_j c_2^\dagger +c_j^\dagger c_2)\rangle=\langle (c_i^\dagger c_2)(c_j c_2^\dagger)\rangle=\langle c_i^\dagger c_j\rangle$ when mode 2 begins in the vacuum state.

All that work, just for an upper bound to the QFI. It turns out that the QFI is actually equivalent to the [minimum QFI over all purifications] (https://doi.org/10.1038/nphys1958), so we can say (I think, maybe there is more to the optimization) $$H_\theta=\min_{|\phi\rangle}4(\langle\psi|\otimes\langle \phi|G^2|\psi\rangle\otimes|\phi\rangle-\langle\psi|\otimes\langle \phi|G|\psi\rangle\otimes|\phi\rangle^2),$$ where now we enjoy none of the simplifications from above because $|\phi\rangle$ is not necessarily the vacuum state for the $b$ modes.

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  • $\begingroup$ Thank you for your answer. I assume that everything still works out when $\Phi$ couples multiple environments $E_1,...E_m$ to the system to account for photon losses in different spaces, as long as $U_\theta$ is taken as an element of $\text{SU}(mn)$. At any rate, is there no way to express the products $\langle \Psi_0|G|\Psi_0\rangle$ and $\langle\Psi_0|G^2|\Psi_0\rangle$ in terms of $u_\theta$ and $|\Psi_0\rangle$? $\endgroup$
    – Quantastic
    Commented Jan 15 at 11:43
  • $\begingroup$ Writing $\text{Tr}[G\rho]=-i\text{Tr}[U_\theta^\dagger\rho \dot U_\theta]$ and $\rho$ in terms of its characteristic function, we should be able to make some progress if we know a rule for $U_\theta^\dagger a^\dagger \dot U_\theta$; I don't think however that there is a way to rewrite this in a simple way... $\endgroup$
    – Quantastic
    Commented Jan 15 at 14:25
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    $\begingroup$ @Quantastic it would be SU($m+n$) in that case (although never a need for $m>n$). The way to express the products is as a sum of covariances (taken with respect to $|\Psi_0\rangle$ of the operators like $c_i^\dagger c_j +c_j^\dagger c_i$ as I expressed above, weighted by coefficients found by expressing $u_\theta$ in terms of generators of the Lie algebra $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 15 at 15:02
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    $\begingroup$ @Quantastic maybe you want this: $U_\theta=\exp(i \mathbf{r}_\theta\cdot \mathbf{G})$ for a vector of c-numbers $\mathbf{r}_\theta$ and a vector of generators $\mathbf{G}=(a_1^\dagger a_2+a_2^\dagger a_1,-i(a_1^\dagger a_2-a_2^\dagger a_1),\cdots)$. Because of group theory, $u_\theta$ corresponds to the same group element in the $2n\times 2n$ irreducible representation, so $u_\theta=\exp(i \mathbf{r}_\theta\cdot \mathbf{g})$ for the same coefficients $\mathbf{r}_\theta$. Now we need the matrix exponential, and $\mathbf{g}$ is made from the vector of matrix representations of the generators $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 15 at 21:24
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    $\begingroup$ @Quantastic $Var(a X+ bY)=a^2 Var(x)+ b^2 Var(y)+ab [Cov(X,Y)+Cov(Y,X)]$, so if $G$ is a linear combination then the variance of $G$ is a linear combination of covariances. As for block diagonals, the matrix logarithm or matrix exponential of a block diagonal will respect that structure $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 16 at 14:30

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