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Upcoming IdeaLab Events: IEG Proposal Clinics

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Hello, Slowking4! We've added Events to IdeaLab, and you're invited :)

Upcoming events focus on turning ideas into Individual Engagement Grant proposals before the March 31 deadline. Need help or have questions about IEG? Join us at a Hangout:

  • Thursday, 13 March 2014, 1600 UTC
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  • Saturday, 29 March 2014, 1700 UTC

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Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decitions

The Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.

If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on change.org.

I'm notifying you because you participated in one of several relevant discussions. -Pete F (talk) 22:20, 20 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

added Art+Feminism grants

Hello Slowking4, I thought you would be interested to know that we expanded the IdeaLab post into two grants: an IEG grant, and a PEG grant this week We welcome your comments, questions, and endorsement. --Theredproject (talk) 14:10, 3 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Community discussion on harassment reporting

There are many current proposals as part of the 2015 Inspire Campaign related to harassment management. I’ve created a page, Grants:IdeaLab/Community discussion on harassment reporting meant to serve as a central space where the various stakeholders in these proposals and other community members can discuss which methods might serve our community best so that we can unify our ideas into collective action. I encourage you to join the conversation and contribute your ideas! OR drohowa (talk) 01:13, 22 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

How can we improve Wikimedia grants to support you better?

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Last call for WMF grants feedback!

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Talk of Friday

Hi Slowking4, are going to have a presentation on Friday, at the Wikisource Conference? How much time do you need? I have to find you a spot in the program (there's plenty for now :-). Please let me know asap. --Aubrey (talk) 21:12, 14 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

hi Aubrey , i have prepared some slides, since you have me arriving late thursday, i would prefer the afternoon slot, but fell free to put me in where available (i hear the coffee is strong) Slowking4 (talk) 04:16, 15 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
thanks Slowking4, it depends on what you are talking about. If it is good as an introduction or something, it's better the morning. What is the topic? --Aubrey (talk) 09:06, 16 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
If it's ok with you, I would say late morning... --Aubrey (talk) 15:43, 16 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

What future IdeaLab campaigns would you like to see?

Hi there,

I’m Jethro, and I’m seeking your help in deciding topics for new IdeaLab campaigns that could be run starting next year. These campaigns aim to bring in proposals and solutions from communities that address a need or problem in Wikimedia projects. I'm interested in hearing your preferences and ideas for campaign topics!

Here’s how to participate:

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Thank you for taking part in the Community Health learning campaign!

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I want to thank you once more for engaging in conversation on the Community Health learning campaign. It took us a while, but we can finally announce the winner of the prize, as well as share the outcomes of this conversation.

You might also be interested in taking part in the 2015 Harassment consultation. This is the first of several planned consultations on this topic, intended to provide a place to discuss ideas, concerns, proposals and possible solutions regarding Wikimedia communities’ harassment-related challenges.

This conversation would not have been the same without you. If you have more ideas, or follow up comments on the findings of the campaign, don't hesitate to leave me a message my talk page.

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First in line!

Thank you. :D I really appreciate your input. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 15:57, 18 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

i appreciate the effort, tried pushing at facebook; we'll see. Slowking4 (talk) 16:07, 18 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Future IdeaLab Campaigns results

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With great thanks,

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Harassment workshop

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Inspire Campaign on content curation & review

I've recently launched an Inspire Campaign to encourage new ideas focusing on content review and curation in Wikimedia projects. Wikimedia volunteers collaboratively manage vast repositories of knowledge, and we’re looking for your ideas about how to manage that knowledge to make it more meaningful and accessible. We invite you to participate and submit ideas, so please get involved today! The campaign runs until March 28th.

All proposals are welcome - research projects, technical solutions, community organizing and outreach initiatives, or something completely new! Funding is available from the Wikimedia Foundation for projects that need financial support. Constructive feedback on ideas is welcome - your skills and experience can help bring someone else’s project to life. Join us at the Inspire Campaign to improve review and curation tasks so that we can make our content more meaningful and accessible! I JethroBT (WMF) 05:39, 29 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Survey on content curation & review Inspire Campaign

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Re: AGF

I still believe that most users are rooted in AGF. WMF is a degeneration of the worse, but perhaps you're right that they're rather a degeneration of what's worse in each of us. Nemo 06:25, 31 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

yep, we get the culture we deserve. the naive newbies who AGF are constantly bitten by the cynical admins or staff. the high handed command style of "leadership" is based on ignorance. we won't change because we don't want to learn. Slowking4 (talk) 12:18, 31 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Through June, we’re organizing an Inspire Campaign to encourage and support new ideas focusing on addressing harassment toward Wikimedia contributors. The 2015 Harassment Survey has shown evidence that harassment in various forms - name calling, threats, discrimination, stalking, and impersonation, among others - is pervasive. Available methods and systems to deal with harassment are also considered to be ineffective. These behaviors are clearly harmful, and in addition, many individuals who experience or witness harassment participate less in Wikimedia projects or stop contributing entirely.

Proposals in any language are welcome during the campaign - research projects, technical solutions, community organizing and outreach initiatives, or something completely new! Funding is available from the Wikimedia Foundation for projects that need financial support. Constructive feedback on ideas is appreciated, and collaboration is encouraged - your skills and experience may help bring someone else’s project to life. Join us at the Inspire Campaign so that we can work together to develop ideas around this important and difficult issue. With thanks,

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Thank you

Hi Slowking4! First of all I wish to thank you for your support for the idea "More culture, less harassment". I think you have perfectly understood my meaning. Maybe someone else will go on with the project, I intend to stop here. I watched on you tube your presentation at the Wikimedia Diversity Conference in Washington, it was very interesting. I gave my support for your idea of training ambassadors. My opinion is that it is really necessary to do something for creating a new and better atmosphere in Wikipedia. Best regards, --Kenzia (talk) 17:18, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thank you very much for your message. It's very kind of you. I confess I'm a little discouraged. Besides, it seems to me that you are the only one who understood the meaning of my idea. I'll write to Wittylama, following your suggestion. --Kenzia (talk) 06:50, 26 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Survey on Inspire Campaign for addressing harassment

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Logotype for Connected Open Heritage

The new official Connected Open Heritage logotype.

Hi!

After the public consultation we have decided to pick Logo 1 as the new logotype for Connected Open Heritage. There was a great set of options and the decision was not easy. Thank you kindly for your work and your creativity!

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EB1911

Good to hear from you and to have such a helpful message. Did you mean half way through volume 12 or half way through to volume 12.5? Let me know and I'll add a message to Wikipedia:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Encyclopaedia Britannica to get some additional helpers. -- PBS (talk) 20:45, 28 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

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In solidarity,

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Whose Knowledge?: [April 2017]

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Welcome to the Dispute Resolution Focus Group

Hi Slowking4,

Thank you for signing up, and welcome to the dispute resolution focus group!

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Then read through the first module, which begins now and ends on Monday. The first module will be conducted via email, while later modules will be conducted on a separate page. We will provide additional logistical information as the focus group progresses.

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Why not join the Simple English Wikipedia?

Hello Slowking4,

I can honestly see why you’ve evaded your block so much, you keep reading the English Wikipedia, personally I would advise you not to do it (don't try to acquire free knowledge? Why?), I personally avoid reading the English Wikipedia like the plague, I did it a few weeks ago and I came across an article with so many errors, some sections were unsourced with easy to find sources, some templates didn’t manifest correctly because the wrong parameters were set, there was some hoax information that no one removed in years, and I realised that I had the urge to improve that article, so I quickly closed the tab and now that article (and many others) are still obsessively calling to me every day, so I just avoid reading the English Wikipedia unless I really have to because when you’re used to editing and improving the encyclopedia losing “the privilege” (as the English ArbCom called it) of editing the encyclopedia “anyone can edit” becomes too much, but as the Standard Offer essay was given to me I don't have much choice, blocks are wholly punitive, and so is yours, if you're blocked for uploading bad images then they should develop software to just prevent you from uploading them, the articles you created while evading your block had nothing to do with your block and that’s why I wanted the specialised blocking tools to be a thing, the world is losing quality content because editors are given the full ban hammer for issues could be isolated, and should be individually appealed. Anyhow, as difficult as it sounds (since Wikipedia pops up with every search ) I would advise you not read the English Wikipedia, and maybe even go to the Simple English Wikipedia to write those articles you made and import them after you’ve been unblocked. Honestly in my case I didn't even want to stay on the Dutch Wikipedia as long as I’m now, but because of my prior global lock (which some admins there claimed was a global ban because policies should only be selectively interpreted) I actually started translating a bit more articles than I initially wanted (also because the internal standard offer reads that if you don't do anything on other projects that that alone is a reason for rejection). That aside I’ve been wanting to go to English Wikisource for some time but I still have to finish off some things on Dutch Wikipedia, in your case I would advise you to go to the Simple English Wikipedia (where I actually also wanted to go, but I'm afraid that because I'm the only person to use a few sources such as Art-Hanoi or the University of California at Santa Barbara that I'll be seen as “a cross-wiki spammer” for actually citing content, so I chose not to), though I would have to warn you about Simple English Wikipedia’s one strike policy which is a non-sensical policy that anything that you give you let's say a 5 hour block would give you a first time indefinite block simply because you're blocked on the English Wikipedia (though other wiki's such as Dutch Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons that have policies that officially go against the one strike policy still have admin cultures that enforce them as such).

Is there a reason why you never went to the Simple English Wikipedia? I see that you’re affiliated with Wikimedia DC, are you employed by them or is your affiliation different? Because I saw that the autoblock of your block once disrupted a WikiConference USA. --Donald Trung (Talk 🤳🏻) (My global lock 🔒) (My global unlock 🔓) 12:39, 17 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

I'll be honest, I only appealed my global lock because of two specific reasons, Beetstra falsely accused me of being a spammer, and this edit which reverted content additions (against both global and local policies). If Beetstra never accused me of being a spammer I would've still been locked now and not appealed it, but it's the culture on all Wikimedia projects that educational content should be removed because of the author that bothers me, and honestly I feel really bad that the articles you created were speedy deleted rather than going through a regular request for deletion because I’m pretty sure that if “Banned contributor” would be the only given reason that very little content would actually be deleted solely on that basis alone, you have people who are here to build an encyclopedia, and you have people that are only here to revert and delete while rarely actually caring about content, and the latter group is exactly what's wrong here. Don't mention what wrongs they locally make on that local project because they would still call it “importing problems from other projects” either because the lack the capabilities to logically assess the situation, or because “assume bad faith” is simply the norm (though it's probably a combination of both). Just try joining Simple English Wikipedia, and make some content there, if you’re lucky some uninvolved editor will bring them to English Wikipedia too. --Donald Trung (Talk 🤳🏻) (My global lock 🔒) (My global unlock 🔓) 12:40, 17 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

beetra has an idiosyncratic view of spam, but he does have some admin support. he is biting a generation of new users, rather than welcoming them, and improving their links. he is a symptom of a broken culture. you noticed that they have a summary process that harms the wiki. even worse you have an editor, who deletes 18000 articles after 30 days, because 1000 of them need some reference cleanup. we see a recent deletion wave to enforce moves of denied AfC reviews. and here are the reputation consequences [1]; [2] there is a blocked editor at simple, but i prefer the community at wikisource. my unsatisfactory solution is "recruit 500 editors to vote at arbcom and impose civility code of conduct". we will see. Slowking4 (talk) 13:39, 17 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Slowking4: I am again going to suggest to you to get your main account unblocked. I would support that (under standard conditions).

@Donald Trung: I have not accused you of spamming - If links are blacklisted it is normal to remove them. As you were creating socks and this link was deemed inappropriate, it apparently got blacklisted (I actually can't find that discussion back, it actually may not have been blacklisted as all your accounts were at that time globally locked and we may have wanted to wait out the results of that), as, obvious, blocking one sock would just have resulted in you creating another sock and continuing your edits.

That type of behaviour results in links getting blacklisted (even sometimes good ones), that behaviour results in accounts getting blocked or even (globally) locked (as I do with Slowking4's continuous socks - and they knows that I am filtering their IP edits where possible while editing on IPs), that behaviour results in your additions to be wiped from the face of Wikipedia (see en:WP:RBI/en:WP:DENY). Now, if you finally drop this stick and back off from this dead horse and continue to normal editing (as I have suggested repeatedly to Slowking4), then we can all continue with regular editing instead of digging deeper and deeper holes.

Both of you are losing the patience of members of the community. You both are good editors, but this is simply not constructive in any form. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 07:23, 18 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

[citation needed] i do not believe a word you say, including and, and the. the admin corps' incivility has lost the patience of world-class librarians. [3]. they are my peer group, not you. Slowking4 (talk) 13:30, 18 December 2017 (UTC)Reply
You are your own citation, Slowking4, so that is covered.
I am looking at the references however for the tweet/twitter-discussion you mention. I mean, if anybody's curious why not one millisecond of my time, penny of my money, or penny's-worth of my labor goes to Wikipedia...

... this is it, basically.

Don't @ me I can fix it. That's BS. Its system militates against fixing itself.
(quoting https://twitter.com/LibSkrat/status/942136008551944192). Re-tweet of a post of 13 December on the 16. What this person missed was that history was already rewritten at that time, and it fails to acknowledge what happened at at that time. If that is how librarians do history.
Anyway, keep socking, and you will never know whether anything I say can be believed or not. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 15:10, 18 December 2017 (UTC)Reply
you are your own parody: more word salad, when i suggest citations. i do not recall any suggestions from you, rather all i see are reversions, with snarky edit summaries. keep it up, and when the librarians take over, you will be code of conduct "victim". Slowking4 (talk) 15:19, 18 December 2017 (UTC)Reply
Yes, and you are doing good suggestions! When have I ever complained about the quality of your work? All I suggest to you is to return to your main account on en.wikipedia and stop socking. Anyway, back to my books. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 15:27, 18 December 2017 (UTC)Reply
since you are into censoring calling out your ignorance, i will leave this here-
I know that it is not going to happen .. Jimmy Wales sending me 1 million dollar is not going to happen either. I will just have to live with it. And if I have the choice between checking with Google to see whether WikiData is correct, and if it is not using Google to get the correct data, or skip WikiData and just get the correct data from Google directly, then I choose the latter option. WikiData has its place in this world, but no place on en.wikipedia.
this is hilarious. you realize that knowledge graph uses wikidata, google having abandoned their knowledge database in favor of it? [4] have you tried a grant request? what would you spend it on, other than "send me money"? wikidata on the other hand, has no funding problems. [5]

Structured Commons - Design feedback request: Multilingual Captions

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On a personal note, you'll see me posting many of these communications going forward for the Structured Data project, as SandraF transitions into working on the GLAM side of things for Structured Data on Commons full time. For the past six months she's been splitting time between the two roles (GLAM and Community Liaison). I'm looking forward to working with you all again. Thank you, happy editing. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 15:09, 24 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

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yes, user:Bus_stop, [6] you have stumbled upon some unpleasant history, that does not make common sense. but as you see, the "son of betacommand" minds are made up. for an essay, see also User:Slowking4/All knowledge versus free culture - by now i have more edits than these admins, like this one, but their idea of collaboration remains dictation. fresh start is proven a lie. Slowking4 (talk) 00:34, 10 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

I just want to say that I appreciate the work done by "Sudowoodoo". That is an impressive list of productive work done. I think credit is due. Bus stop (talk) 01:15, 10 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
i'm no saint, but the methods for adding art content are repeatable by newbies. we will see more at art + feminism shortly. the fair use images of dead people is a small work flow, they did not find 100, and there are over 500 in use now, along with over 1000 photos of living people. the more good work they delete, the less credibility they have. so it goes. Slowking4 (talk) 01:38, 10 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
Images are indispensable for gaining a familiarity with what has transpired in the world of art. There are arguments against inclusion of images such as copyright arguments, restricting the use of "Fair use", and there are also arguments about bandwidth and the capacity of small devices to load and display a multitude of detailed images, but I think art education requires the liberal use of images of works of art. The verbal counterpart is inadequate to convey knowledge of works of art. Bus stop (talk) 02:17, 10 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
i'm with you there, and video too. but this website is hobbled by the verbal veterans who would rather write a thousand words, and be precautionary about image licenses. it is a generational divide. if we are not careful, a fork will come along and add rich media content, better than everpedia. and the next generation will leave us behind. Slowking4 (talk) 02:33, 10 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
A problem may be that the visual arts have not been properly thought about. For instance there are no distinct guidelines for notability concerning works of art, so deletion discussions for works of art fall back on the more general requirement for commentary in reliable sources. This often means incorrect, misleading, self-serving, meandering musings on the work of art that may have little to do with the work of art. Works of art are generally nonverbal. Yet works of art serve as a jumping off point for tall tales that the commentator wishes to tell. This is interpretation, and I don't mean to fault those who take a stab at "interpreting" works of art. It should be noted that it is not just any work of art that is most likely to be subject to this sort of treatment but those works of art that have already achieved some prominence that are most likely to be subject to this type of interpretive scrutiny. The "prominence" often derives from the art gallery or museum in which the work is shown. But you can't use the argument that the setting in which it is shown suggests notability because as we all know, notability is not inherited. And it works vice versa. An art gallery does not derive notability from a constant and long term flow of important exhibitions of artworks because—you guessed it—notability is not inherited. This frustrating arrangement spills over into discussions about the inclusion of images in articles. Currently a heavy emphasis is on verbal commentary relating to the work of art. But that verbal commentary is often ludicrously irrelevant. People writing art commentary often have their own agendas that they wish to promote and the artwork that they are talking about simply gives them an opportunity to expand on their pet philosophical project. But that's their prerogative. I don't fault them. And I think that is to the credit of the work of art—that it generates such a flow of words. There is good quality art commentary but it is the rare exception. The bottom line concerning works of art is that often little can be said about them. They are stubbornly nonverbal. I'm not saying there should be no standards pertaining to works of art but that there should be different standards. Bus stop (talk) 14:49, 10 February 2018 (UTC)Reply