Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2009-01
 | Please do not post any new comments on this page. This is a discussion archive first created in January 2009, although the comments contained were likely posted before and after this date. See current discussion or the archives index. |
Proposed additions
|
This section is for completed requests that a website be blacklisted |
indymedia.org
Not sure about this, but I think this should have a second look. COIBot refuses to save, since we are now up to 1600 records (it takes the bot down).
Previous discussion: User:SpamReportBot/cw/indymedia.org
indymedia.org
Some COIBot data:
- 1604 records; Top 10 editors who have added indymedia.org: ClueBot (94), 146.103.254.11 (40), NotificaBot (31), <reg user?> (23), AVBOT (23), <prob reg user> (18), <reg user> (17), <.. prob reg user> (17), 71.146.17.200 (15), <prob reg user> (13)
- Top 10 wikis where indymedia.org has been added: en.wikipedia (727), es.wikipedia (216), de.wikipedia (181), pt.wikipedia (119), it.wikipedia (118), fr.wikipedia (73), ru.wikipedia (32), tr.wikipedia (32), pl.wikipedia (16), nl.wikipedia (10)
For the 2 IPs:
User:146.103.254.11(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
(spamhaus | projecthoneypot | malwareurl)
User:71.146.17.200(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
(spamhaus | projecthoneypot | malwareurl)
- 57 records; Domains added by 146.103.254.11: indymedia.org (40), wikio.com (6), youtube.com (3), nheylen.wordpress.com (2), imec.be (1), wikio.es (1), f1belgium.com (1), wiran.gr (1), magma-da.com (1), vakantiefietser.be (1)
- Wikis where user:146.103.254.11 added links: en.wikipedia (14), it.wikipedia (8), es.wikipedia (4), nl.wikipedia (3), da.wikipedia (2), sv.wikipedia (1), no.wikipedia (1), nn.wikipedia (1), de.wikipedia (1), commons.commons (1).
- This IP had in the beginning a strong focus for Silvio Berlusconi, where the link got removed and readded a couple of times accross multiple wikis.
- Top 10 domains added by 71.146.17.200: indybay.org (6), santacruz.indymedia.org (6), archives.econ.utah.edu (3), geocities.com (2), sf.indymedia.org (2), portland.indymedia.org (2), friheten.no (1), iacboston.org (1), aljazeerah.info (1), houston.indymedia.org (1)
- Wikis where user:71.146.17.200 added links: en.wikipedia (1)
From the FAQ ():
- Distilled from our mission statement: Indymedia is a collective of independent media organizations and hundreds of journalists offering grassroots, non-corporate coverage. Indymedia is a democratic media outlet for the creation of radical, accurate, and passionate tellings of truth.
- If you are convinced your own story is of international relevance, then please publish your story to the Indymedia newswire by clicking on the "publish" link on the www.indymedia.org page and following the easy instructions. If you send your story to the imc-editorial list or any other e-mail list people on those lists will most likely ask you to post the story yourself.
- Should you believe news you read on CNN.com? All reporters have their own biases; governments and massive for-profit corporations that own media entities have their own biases as well, and often impose their views on their reporters (or their reporters self-censor to conform their own biases to those of their employer). You should look at all reports you read on the Indymedia site with a critical eye, just as you should look at all media before you in a discerning manner.
- No corporation owns Indymedia, no government manages the organization, no single donor finances the project. Indymedia is not the mouthpiece of any political party or organization. People involved with Indymedia have a wide variety of political and personal viewpoints. Anyone may participate in Indymedia organizing and anyone may post to the Indymedia newswires....
- Indymedia currently doesn't have the money to pay anyone, even for the hundreds of hours of work they've done for the network.
From the list of editors who added this, above, most are bots, and the one IP who is adding this quite a lot (of the other domains of that user some are also quistionable .. wordpress, wikio). The deleted names have one really regular user, and one who probably is regular, the others I give a question mark, but they still may be good editors.
I think that there may be use for the site, but it certainly gets spammed cross-wiki. Could a second eye (should I say third and fourth eye, or second set of eyes?) have a look at this? Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 22:34, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- I should add, the first IP has not been adding links since 26/11/2008. I just noted some recent additions today. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 22:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- The linksearch on enwiki reveals that there are many links to the site. Soxred93 02:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- Since this site is citizen journalism in essence, I'm not sure it is always an appropriately reliable source, however I think it does have legitimate uses. I would be extremely hesitata to blacklist this domain without clear proof that links to this domain are being pushed on multiple wikis over the long term. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 02:38, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- Should ban the users, not the domain. It is frequently used as an external link in articles, and sometimes even as a primary source. Since it is clearly neither commercial nor vandalic/malware, problems with spam should be dealt at the user level, not the domain level. Thanks!--69.114.60.147 00:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- Since this site is citizen journalism in essence, I'm not sure it is always an appropriately reliable source, however I think it does have legitimate uses. I would be extremely hesitata to blacklist this domain without clear proof that links to this domain are being pushed on multiple wikis over the long term. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 02:38, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- The linksearch on enwiki reveals that there are many links to the site. Soxred93 02:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- Although I think that this is not a reliable source (as most information is self published, not peer reviewed and not by payed, established editors on the site, which makes the info on the site similar to most wikis etc.), I do see that it is used by regulars. I'll close this for now as
Declined, keeping in mind that it has been abused, and may still be abused, but it seems that the abuse is not big enough for blacklisting (at the moment). --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 12:28, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
rickrolld.me
rickrolld.me
dmluis.rickrolld.me
User:189.194.198.188(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
(spamhaus | projecthoneypot | malwareurl)
User:203.129.147.223(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
(spamhaus | projecthoneypot | malwareurl)
Please, blacklist urgently this site. Once time is opened you can't close it. In addition, my antivirus provided me serious alerts that "malicious content has been blocked". Thanks in advance. Dferg (T-ES) 21:34, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, I see no malware here, just some annoying javascript, and an even-more-annoying internet meme. Clearly useless to our projects, so that might be a reason to blacklist it. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 22:11, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Added by Beetstra. Dferg (T-ES) 22:14, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- Sure. It has no use for our projects, I was just noting it's not a risk. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 15:36, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
fizy.org
fizy.org
Dear all, crosswiki spam from
User:88.246.231.210(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
(spamhaus | projecthoneypot | malwareurl)
I already added \bfizy\.org\b to the blacklist and gblocked the IP for 15 minutes. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 18:08, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Report should be coming in a few minutes. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:13, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- I only see 2 link additions here. It is spamming, but I'm not sure we need to leave this blacklisted permanently. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 19:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- It was added on wikt:de:fizy, wikt:en:fizy, wikt:fr:fizy, wikt:tr:fizy, wikt:nl:fizy, wikt:es:fizy and probably others, ts is not up to date, thanks, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 19:50, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, and on enWP - blatant spamming. JzG 21:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- It was added on wikt:de:fizy, wikt:en:fizy, wikt:fr:fizy, wikt:tr:fizy, wikt:nl:fizy, wikt:es:fizy and probably others, ts is not up to date, thanks, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 19:50, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Robertyaris (talk • contribs • block • xwiki-contribs • xwiki-date (alt) • CA • gblock • ST • lwcheckuser) - de:Fizy, ru:Fizy, es:fizy, fi:Fizy, fr:Fizy, it:Fizy, nl:fizy, no:fizy, pl:fizy, pt:fizy, ro:fizy
I would recommend not to remove it from the blacklist.
Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 23:15, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, the various tools have caught up by now & there is clear abuse in this case. Thanks a ton, birdy. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 15:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
zurl.ws
zurl.ws
Redirect site. Used on en.wp to redirect to locally blacklisted site ([1]) but as a redirect site I understand this one should be blacklisted globally. -- SiobhanHansa 17:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
- Added — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 20:09, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
maselectromedicina.com and surmedical.com adsense related
maselectromedicina.com
surmedical.com
Adsense pub-4138084252125247
- more es:190.64.138.52
es:190.64.47.162
es:85.55.147.50
--Hu12 20:24, 31 December 2008 (UTC) - Continuing on En. --Hu12 22:15, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Attempt to remove listing on this page at meta and at en --Enric Naval 23:14, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- On a short perusal, links are not adding value to articles:
- en:ISO 13485 [2] link only has a short summary of the standard
- en:Mechanical ventilation [3] valuable only on surface, it's some of those technologies that one day might or might not be useful
- en:Dialysis [4] promotion of a local clinic, unsourced assertions
- en:Optical microscope [5] how to choose a microscope (hum, clearly encyclopedic material)
- (same diff as above) terminology list, appears to be a copyvio from http://labdepotonline.com/glossary.asp and maybe of http://202.194.4.88:8080/wulihx/English/电镜常用英文词汇500个（美语版）.pdf. In any case, nothing unique that we can't go without
- the link ventilacionmecanica.maselectromedicina.com was being spammed five months ago over all mechanic ventilation related articles. Page has 9 google ads + 5 links promoting companies. And now it's being re-added, this time with filler articles... hum....
- Curious note: The two domains have identical content on some pages, and an IP has tried to replace one domain with the other domain[6].
- It has also been spammed at es wiki, on 7 different articles[7], matching some of those being spammed now at enwiki --Enric Naval 23:35, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- more es:190.64.138.52
- Added — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 00:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks,--Hu12 22:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Proposed removals
|
|
This section is for archiving proposals that a website be unlisted. |
Filmfocus.nl
filmfocus.nl
I just created a film article and I used information included on a filmfocus page and found it to be blocked. (A good thing the browser saved my work). I see no inherent issues with the reliability of the site, so it's highly valuable to article on Dutch films. I would therefore ask for the domain to be delisted. If you need any more information or if you have comments, I can be reached on the talk page of my English Wikipedia account (where I am most active) - Mgm|(talk) 12:04, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
\.filmfocus\.nl # Walter # requested by w:nl:user:Siebrand - spamlinking in NL.wp
- Provided there's no cross-wiki abuse shown in the report (needs to be re-generated once the database is repaired; see discussion below), this can be removed as soon as it's added to nlwiki's local blacklist, I think. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 16:26, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. I'll add it to nlwiki's blacklist if there's no cross-wiki abuse. --Erwin(85) 18:58, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
- Did that ever get done? If so, we can remove it here. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 20:45, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
- OK,
Removed. I don't see any additions here. nlwiki can add it whenever - I don't think there's much risk in leaving it unblocked on nlwiki for a week or something. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 16:06, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- OK,
- Did that ever get done? If so, we can remove it here. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 20:45, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. I'll add it to nlwiki's blacklist if there's no cross-wiki abuse. --Erwin(85) 18:58, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
bitgle.com
bitgle.com
Dear all, the site Bitgle.com is a serious web search engine, used by hundreds of people every day, and I'm not a spammer. I apologize if my behaviour of divulgate the good job of the guys from Bitgle was unpleasant here, as a new user I didn't realize that could be against your point of view. I'd like to ask you to delist the domain please. Best regards, --151.47.39.6 12:33, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
- Typically, we do not remove domains from the spam blacklist in response to site-owners' requests. Instead, we de-blacklist sites when trusted, high-volume editors request the use of blacklisted links because of their value in support of our projects. If such an editor asks to use your links, I'm sure the request will be carefully considered and your domain may well be removed.
- Until such time, this request is
Declined. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 02:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
realgems.org
realgems.org
I just realized (21st Dec 2008) that someone has blocked my URL (minerals and gems field) on at least Wiki.de and Wiki.en! My private, non-commercial and educational (used also by U.S. scholars and profs at U.S. universities) website realgems.org (http & www I have to leave out because of the Wiki spam filter...) has also the right being accessable on Wiki as other informational websites like e.g. www.mindat.org! There can be nothing against that! So I ask Wikipedia to re-install all my links on all Wiki sites where they were blocked or deleted. I see that at least a 16 year old pupil in Germany is responsable for this wrong action: "Liebenau.Jens". It took me two years of hard work to create my website about minerals and gems, and it is not the easiest work to add links on several Wiki pages, e.g. China, Russia, Japan etc etc.... My website is internationally accepted and respected, and a help for interested Wiki visitors in the field of minerals and gemstones. Just have a look on my website and you will see that Wiki didn't do a great job here.
Best, and happy Xmas, Redberyl
- Was added after bot report. No time to review this currently. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 20:44, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
- Declined. We typically do not remove websites from the blacklist at the request of the site owner, especially where the site has been liberally spammed across multiple projects. In this case the links woul appear to benefit the site more than the various Wikipedias. JzG 10:38, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Mike.lifeguard wrote on 21 Dec: "Two IPs from the same ISP complaining about the addition of a single domain on my talk page within minutes of one another? Give me a break. Don't waste my time, just leave comments on Talk:Spam blacklist. This sort of silliness doesn't help you. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 02:16, 22 December 2008 (UTC)"
I don't know when and if I get a new IP. ISP I don't know. If you mean "stardust" who wrote on Mike.lifeguard's user-talk page: "Realgems.org is a great website for gems and mineral collectors. You find a great selection of gem and mineral photos for each species barely found somewhere else. This website is a help and orientation for all collectors or interested people to see photos especially from rare species; therefore it is not understandable why Wikipedia stopped linking to this totally non-commercial portal!!???"
I learned afterwards that "stardust" is a very reliable and well-known mineral dealer who informed me later that it was him who placed that message on your page, of course after I have asked nearly 80 collectors and dealers for their help. Nothing more.
Best, and happy Xmas, Redberyl
- So, now the excuse is canvassing... Still Declined. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 16:38, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Part 2
Mike.lifeguard (s.a.) put and end to the RealGems matter writing this:
"Please be aware that the domain owner has placed a notice on the web page, suggesting that users come here to complain. I would suggest that info-en-l-at-wikimedia.org would be a better venue if the domain owner has an issue with the decision made here. They would do well to note that the domain will be removed when a long-term, trusted editor requires the use of the domain to improve a content page on one of our projects. Having random people show up and whine isn't going to have much effect, save wasting the time and energy of all involved. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 17:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)"
"...the domain owner has placed a notice on the web page, suggesting that users come here to complain..." - I have NOT asked my international visitors to complain. I have just asked them to place their opinion on this page! So Mike.lifeguard added a wrong fact here.
"I would suggest that info-en-l-at-wikimedia.org would be a better venue..." - This is not helpful to solve this problem. Mike.lifeguard does not have a simple @ on his keyboard?
"...if the domain owner has an issue..." It is not "an issue" but a major impact on my work which is dedicated to inform other people about gems and minerals.
"Having random people show up and whine..." Such vocabulary is not helpful too, especially because I have not used similar expressions. Re "random people": Until now at least 100 collectors, dealers and professors (random?) are informed about your unjust behaviour - especially blocking all comments from "trusted, high-volume" (Wiki slogan) persons and institutions so that nobody can write his democratic opinion here.
Best, and happy Xmas, Redberyl
23rd December
Now I know that I have added too many links to my own website. I hear from the owner of Mindat (the world's first mineral database) that all the Wiki links to Mindat were added by others, not the owner. Therefore I will delete the unusual message on my website intro page, and ask Wiki if the admins give me the chance to delete most of my links by myself. Many thanks to all who understood my problem.
Best, and happy Xmas, Redberyl
Deletion of all my links: Dear Dr. VSmith, Wiki admin,
on Dec 20th Wiki deleted all links going to my website realgems.org because of "spamming". Meanwhile I know that I did something wrong when I added a lot of links to my own website. I will not do that again of course.
But Wiki admins have also deleted all links which were added by the international public. Now my website realgems.org is no more accessable on Wikipedia. So nobody can find all the photos and infos on my non-profit and educational website, after having read a Wiki page. Nothing happened with all the links you once added, e.g. to Mindat, Webmineral and Mineral Galleries. Why? Wiki accused me having spammed their mineral and gems pages with my own links but I don't see a difference between your links to some mineral sites and the links going to my site.
Would you be so kind and explain me why all your additions are no spam but my visitors' links are spam?
Oh, I just see that I cannot write my complete URL because this URL is blocked! So I have to write "realgems.org" instead of the complete address. It's a shame.
Kind regards, Redberyl —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redberyl (talk • contribs) 14:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Quite simple - I have no connection to those mineral websites. I simply use them to find technical mineral info and document my editing of mineral articles. I viewed your website as non-commercial and felt it had some quality images, but the data was available elsewhere. Your problem was in trying to promote your own work, that is a distinct no-no on Wikipedia for a very good reason. Too bad that the blacklisting was the result, but tough cookies. Am I going to work to change that? I see no reason to now. And that Dr. bit above is not appropriate as I'm not one, had to "drop out" and feed the kids. Vsmith (talk) 14:30, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
And if you really want to help, why not upload some of those great images to Wikipedia and add content to gem and mineral article stubs - join in the fun as a real Wiki-volunteer. Vsmith (talk) 14:51, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
14:30, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Dear VSmith, thanks for your quick reply - in contrary to the rest of Wiki admins. My international visitors also have no connection to my website but their additions (links) were deleted. Do you know exactly that all these people don't use my infos also, for editing mineral articles? Surely not. Thanks for having a look on my site. You are right: My project is mainly aimed on photos. To create such a collection seem to be helpful not only for collectors but also for U.S. scholars, according to my web usage statistics. Mineral data is also available elsewhere, not only on your favorite sites. Please tell me another website where you can see and compare more varieties of colors of gems and their minerals.
I really did not intend to promote my own work. The more visitors, the more I have to pay for traffic volume... I just thought that my efforts to compile all this stuff would be worth being linked on Wikipedia to help people finding a lot of gems varieties. That is (at least in my opinion) exactly the aim of Wikipedia: being a helpful resource for informations. I would have created articles but what would Wiki admins have said if I would have flooded Wikipedia with all these photos?
Your final sentence I don't understand, re "feeding kids". I hope you meant something positive, according to the Wiki ethics.
If I would start helping Wikipedia by editing etc., would Wikipedia re-install my links?
Kind regards, and happy 2009, Redberyl —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redberyl (talk • contribs) 15:00, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I'd say if you become a serious Wiki-contributor by adding valid content over time I would consider working to de-blacklist your site - not sure what that would involve though. Feed the kids simply meant I had a family to provide for and had to get a job to pay the bills instead of finishing a phd program. Vsmith (talk) 15:25, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
VSmith, Now I understand what you meant re "kids". My English isn't the best, it's old school English from the late 60ies. My dad had a slightly similar prob after the war, re finishing high school. He always suffered from that f... time.
Yes, I would like becoming a contributor but at first Wiki has to re-install all links and "whitelist" my URL. Even you seem to think that my site is not the worst. A lot of people worldwide would praise you, having saved their links / input.
Best, Redberyl —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redberyl (talk • contribs) 15:36, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
No - first Wiki has to re-install all links and "whitelist" my URL, it doesn't work that way. If you want to contribute, then do so with no conditions. Build a reputation as a valid Wikipedian - then we'll discuss weblinks. Vsmith (talk) 16:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I would say no because you (as an admin) have probably added more links to certain websites than any other of my international visitors. Regarding the Wiki spam politics you would have been regarded as a real spammer.
Let's have a look on "Red Beryl", "Painite", "Demantoid" or e.g. "Gahnite". What was your impacting input except from adding links? My visitors did exactly the same as you did but were put into the Wiki prison, together with me.
I don't need Wikipedia but Wikipedia should be happy about additional links to that rare (as you said) photo collection on my website. Therefore I repeat that Wikipedia (which is responsible for all deletions) has to "whitelist" my URL before I will become a true supporter and editor (mainly in de.wikipedia of course).
If that does not happen, and I will not be officially informed (email) about a positive solution, Wikipedia (at least some of its admins) is acting against its own dedication. I will not show this entry on my website until I get a positive response from you or another responsable admin.
When you sit back and relax, dear Vsmith, you will see that all this discussion is unnecessary. I would assist Wikipedia as a true supporter, you should release my URL from your "prison".
Happy New Year to you, Redberyl —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redberyl (talk • contribs) 16:31, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Please be aware that the domain owner has placed a notice on the web page, suggesting that users come here to complain. I would suggest that info-en-l
wikimedia
org would be a better venue if the domain owner has an issue with the decision made here. They would do well to note that the domain will be removed when a long-term, trusted editor requires the use of the domain to improve a content page on one of our projects. Having random people show up and whine isn't going to have much effect, save wasting the time and energy of all involved. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 17:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
apelosurgentes.com.br
I require the removal of this site from blacklist. This is an important site and not a SPAM site. It is a very known and contains messages from Our Lady. Wiki is becoming useless because of these nerd behaviours like blacklisting important sites and refusing to remove from blacklist even if people argue and explain and show that the site really does not need to be in a BLACK LIST. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 189.104.207.232 (talk) 00:48, 4 November 2008
- I'll investigate this a bit later, however I'll note for now that when you say you "require" us to remove your domain and you call us nerds, you certainly aren't starting this blacklisting review on a very promising note. I don't think Saint Mary believed in calling people names but you may want to check that out for yourself.
- Regards, --A. B. (talk) 21:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
No investigation necessery, A.B., the data is all there:
apelosurgentes.com.br
User:189.104.207.232(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
(spamhaus | projecthoneypot | malwareurl)
User:189.104.242.125(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
(spamhaus | projecthoneypot | malwareurl)
User:195.214.255.253(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
(spamhaus | projecthoneypot | malwareurl)
User:189.12.49.65(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
(spamhaus | projecthoneypot | malwareurl)
I see that there are 2 IPs which are close to the one who added this post. This link was spammed cross-wiki (Top 10 wikis where apelosurgentes.com.br has been added: en.wikipedia (4), it.wikipedia (2), de.wikipedia (2), es.wikipedia (2), nl.wikipedia (2), ja.wikipedia (1), hu.wikipedia (1), gl.wikipedia (1), sq.wikipedia (1), fr.wikipedia (1)) by these IPs mainly (Editors who have added apelosurgentes.com.br: 189.104.242.125 (15), 195.214.255.253 (2), EJF (huggle) (1), River matthew (1), 189.12.49.65 (1)) (I believe that the the two named accounts perform vandalism reverts here, which re-insert the links, they were not genuine edits). In other words: Declined. If you need the link to be de-blacklisted, seek contact with regular editors on these wikis, and see if they think the link is of interest to their wiki. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 11:24, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- The IPs was also inserting link
getway.com.br
--Jorunn 12:31, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Interesting!
- Editors who have added getway.com.br: 189.104.242.125 (16), Tonyhenrique (5), 189.104.236.232 (3), 189.104.207.232 (2), 189.12.49.153 (2), 189.105.11.50 (1), EJF (huggle) (1).
- Top 10 wikis where getway.com.br has been added: en.wikipedia (11), sq.wikipedia (3), cs.wikipedia (2), de.wikipedia (2), es.wikipedia (2), nl.wikipedia (2), pt.wikipedia (2), ja.wikipedia (1), hu.wikipedia (1), gl.wikipedia (1).
User:189.104.242.125(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
(spamhaus | projecthoneypot | malwareurl)
User:189.104.236.232(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
(spamhaus | projecthoneypot | malwareurl)
User:189.104.207.232(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
(spamhaus | projecthoneypot | malwareurl)
User:189.12.49.153(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
(spamhaus | projecthoneypot | malwareurl)
User:189.105.11.50(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
(spamhaus | projecthoneypot | malwareurl)
Maybe leading to
kurescek.info
apelosurgentes.com
aparicoesnoamazonas.kit.net
(the first of this three on en and pt wikipedia, the latter two only on en)
Probably involved (only added the domains named here):
User:Tonyhenrique
One of the IPs mentioned above has more on his list:
borko.data.bg
bgcd.narod.ru
bulgariainside.ru
Which leads to:
User:Daniela S.
Who has a lot of stuff, including handsfull of email addresses, top ten (out of 70 records, filtered what is already named):
ilianamirtschewa.dir.bg
ku-eichstaett.de
education.uncc.edu
michaelkratky.de
Pff .. some of this stuff may be genuine (or added to userspace, I see tracks leading to wikiversity?). But a second look would be nice here. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 13:33, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
OK, this also reached the administrators incident noticeboard on en: link (permanent link). Maybe more blacklisting is needed here. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 13:49, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Beetstra: There's a lot of info to sift through - since you handled most of it, can you let us know whether anything need to be done here? Thanks — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 23:58, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'll leave this, decline de-listing, the other links could be a problem and maybe could be added, but all need to be checked etc. Just archive this. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 08:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
SmartLabs.pl
Hi, someone plays very dirty.
#: # Nick1915 # request \bsmartlabs\.pl\b
This links to report from en:WT:WPSPAM: whitch even doesn't contain enything about SmartLabs.pl
So, why SmartLabs.pl is on black list ?
my mail: [email protected]
- According to
smartlabs.pl
- there was cross-wiki linking, including a very likely conflict of interest. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 22:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
what do You mean by cross-wiki linking ? Check page smartlabs.pl, we have more then one on-line educational aplication, some of them are in a few languages. Tehre was no cross-wiki linking. We always added correct links to valid content.
So what I have to do to take of smartlabs.pl from blacklist ?
- The thing is, we are writing an encyclopedia here, based on added content, not based on linked-to content. I would suggest you contact regulars on one or more wikis, and ask them if they think the link can be of interest to wikipedia. With cross-wiki linking is meant, that the link was added to more than one wiki, and deemed unhelpful on several of them. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 19:04, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
not exactly. The thing is every link was different. Different was content or language.
Second thing is, we can't put scripts on wiki, so if we want to share with educational aplications, we can only put links on wiki. I hope You have already found them very useful. --Smartlabs 10:31, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Typically, we do not remove domains from the spam blacklist in response to site-owners' requests. Instead, we de-blacklist sites when trusted, high-volume editors request the use of blacklisted links because of their value in support of our projects. If such an editor asks to use your links, I'm sure the request will be carefully considered and your domain may well be removed.
- Until such time, this request is Declined. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 17:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Have You ever been on http://smartlabs(dot)pl to see the true value of materials whitch are there ? Or it is simpler to decline ?
Compare value of content of current links with ours and be honest.
--Smartlabs 15:08, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Troubleshooting and problems
|
|
This section is for archiving Troubleshooting and problems. |
User: namespace abuse
|
|
This section is for archiving User: namespace abuse. |
Discussion
|
|
This section is for archiving Discussions. |
"get sbl regexp from url" now on toolserver
ralated discussions:
- Talk:Spam_blacklist/Archives/2008-09#tool_for_log_searching
- Talk:Spam_blacklist/Archives/2008-11#archive.2Flog_searching
Hi!
Finally the tool is on the toolserver: [8].
Any more feature-requests? -- seth 12:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- If the tool is affected by replag, can you add a display of current replag and an potentially option to use up-to-date data from the relevant wiki(s) like Erwin has for his tool (
&forcelive=1)? I've added this tool to{{linksummary}}& I think it will be quite useful, especially for removal requests. Thanks for your work! — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 22:19, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- This idea sounds nice. At the moment I purge all used pages for every request, which generates a lot of traffic (almost 1MiB per request). I want to enhance that behavior anyway, so your idea of presenting a "last-update date" and giving the choice for purging would probably reduce this traffic. -- seth 01:52, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- I made an example, how it could look like. It's just plain HTML without CGI (action=""), so form submission will be of no use. [9] What do you think? too much options? too complicated? -- seth 01:41, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
- I would think that one either is content with replicated data, or not -- there's little use in having fresh data for the enwiki blacklist, but replicated data on the enwiki whitelist. Probably a simple "This data is 10 minutes old - if you need newer data, click here to fetch live data" is sufficient. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 01:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
- ok, finished. is that ok? [10]. -- seth 03:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- Looks good to me. Great work! — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 03:22, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- ok, finished. is that ok? [10]. -- seth 03:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- I would think that one either is content with replicated data, or not -- there's little use in having fresh data for the enwiki blacklist, but replicated data on the enwiki whitelist. Probably a simple "This data is 10 minutes old - if you need newer data, click here to fetch live data" is sufficient. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 01:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
- I made an example, how it could look like. It's just plain HTML without CGI (action=""), so form submission will be of no use. [9] What do you think? too much options? too complicated? -- seth 01:41, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
What are the chances you can add a dropdown with all the wikis, or an inputbox for language & project so we can check any arbitrary wiki's blacklist & whitelist? On every wiki, MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist and MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist will work, though I wouldn't bother trying with the log - most wikis don't have a log.
This would let us automatically check whether a domain is on the blacklist or whitelist of any domain we want, which will be much faster than looking though them manually. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 16:57, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- It wouldn't be a big problem to expand the script. But as a side-effect the script would perhaps be a possibility for bad guys to crash the toolserver (by looped purging of all projects). So I suppose it would be better to create a cronjob that starts a "wget" only once a day (well, it needn't be a real cronjob, I can restrict the script to doing this). Then the perl script should just use the files on the toolserver, if somebody selects "all".
- Apart from that, which options would you like to have?
- The easiest would be: radio buttons with the following 3 (or 4) options:
- 1. meta, en (incl. XLinkBot), de (i.e. the big ones, like it is at present)
- 2. all 28267467529 billions of wikis (but forbid purging)
- 3. meta and one user-defined project that may be chosen by a dropdown-list
- (4. meta and user-defined projects that may be chosen by a selection box with the possibility of multiple choices, (but forbid purging))
- What do you think? -- seth 20:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Really, I just wanted to add the possibility of using the tool to check one wiki of my choice - option 3 above, I guess. However, it is also nice to have the option to check the top X wikis (ideally where X is user-defined, with a default of, say, 5 - see the cross-wiki linksearch tool for comparison). — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 20:08, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- For example, I want to use it to check nlwiki's blacklist for the filmfocus request above - I don't need any other information than that. Instead, I searched myself - automating that would be nice. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 16:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- It is possible now to use a user-defined language. Our meta blacklist is always used though. -- seth 17:28, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
- Looks good. Can we allow other projects? Right now it's only the Wikipedias. And probably your error message should say to email you, not the sysadmins :) — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 20:18, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
- As well, after fetching live data, you're still offering the purge option -- probably that should be hidden when the last update is <5 minutes ago. This means when you've already fetched live data you won't see it, but also stops people from doing silly things like "Oh, it's 17 seconds replagged, let's hit purge" — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 20:20, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
- 1. More projects: Which projects do you want? I guess here a drop list would be better than a text input like I did it for the languages.
- 2. Error message: I shortened the message and placed a permanent link to my talk page for bug reporting.
- 3. Hidden purge option. Shall I just hide it in the HTML interface or shall I even forbid this kind of purging in the cgi script? -- seth 17:02, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- It is possible now to use a user-defined language. Our meta blacklist is always used though. -- seth 17:28, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia you already have, but we also run the Wikibooks, Wikiversity, Commons, Wikiquote, Wiktionary, Wikisource, Wikispecies, and Wikinews projects (see Special:SiteMatrix -- the toolserver has all this data somewhere...). For hiding the purge option, I'd say disallow it in the script proper. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 17:05, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- Projects: done. (There is still some bug, but if you don't use "de" as a user-defined language, everything should work fine. I'll work on that later.)
- Purge: disallowed.
- -- seth 04:30, 28 December 2008 (UTC)