Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Siue Moffat

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Since being relisted, additional sources have been located, and new !votes were made to keep the article. (non-admin closure) Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 04:13, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Siue Moffat

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WP:BLP of a cookbook author and filmmaker, not reliably sourced as having a strong claim to passing notability criteria for either occupation. As always, people are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to show evidence of WP:GNG-worthy coverage about them in media independent of themselves -- but the only notability claim on offer here is that her work exists, and the article is referenced to one (deadlinked but recoverable) short blurb that isn't enough to get her over GNG all by itself if it's all she's got for GNG-worthy coverage, and one primary source that isn't support for notability at all.
The article, further, has been tagged for needing more sources since 2011 without ever having better sources added, and a WP:BEFORE search came up dry as all I found in ProQuest was the blurb and a small handful of glancing namechecks of her existence in coverage of events.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to have more and better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 18:01, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Authors, and Canada. Bearcat (talk) 18:01, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Food and drink, Music, and Entertainment. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:36, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I don't see any book reviews, or much of anything in sources otherwise. Nothing in news or a general Gsearch. Oaktree b (talk) 22:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can see three reviews for "Lickin' the Beaters 2: Vegan Chocolate and Candy" via Proquest, but not much else. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 07:15, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At the very least, reviews exist for Lickin' the Beaters 2 from Library Journal [1] and Vegetarian Journal [2], and there are two shorter reviews for the two Lickin' the Beaters cookbooks from Broken Pencil magazine [3][4]. Broken Pencil also has a good number of reviews on her zines, e.g., one for The Day I Stopped Being Punk [5]. There's also an interview with her in Joe Biel's Beyond the Music: How Punks are Saving the World with DIY Ethics, Skills, & Values (Microcosm Publishing) on pages 150–152. With more research, I think we could probably find more reviews of her works that would warrant inclusion of this article (per WP:NAUTHOR). Best, Bridget (talk) 15:40, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 22:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes a lot of reviews/mentions are before the internet existed as we know it. Broken Pencil reviewed all the zines, even some not listed on the wiki page. I've just found a Fascinating Folks from Broken Pencil (hopefully I'm doing this correctly, first time in one of these discussions... Maulydaft (talk) 13:48, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I "vote" Not to Delete. To the article I added an example of the HeartaCk column (magazine defunct), an inclusion of Fascinating Folks in Broken Pencil, an interview with Boardwalk Chocolates with T.O.F.U Magazine. Bitch Magazine also highlighted Fascinating Folks in an article but Bitch is also defunct. Maulydaft (talk) 19:51, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - here's another review. Nfitz (talk) 01:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 05:48, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Found and added another radio interview on CFBU, Animal Voices, and website; Bitch Magazine article; others have found numerous other reviews of writings that weren't even on the list previously. Maulydaft (talk) 16:20, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep: Several zines have been reviewed, though many are reviewed in Broken Pencil, with which Moffat seems to have been involved. Many of the reviews are quite short, as well. However, I believe we have enough to pass WP:NAUTHOR. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 17:15, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, author has never had any direct connect with Broken Pencil - only been reviewed. Maulydaft (talk) 15:54, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The author's work is cited and reviewed in punk culture magazine, the Toronto Star, and vegan food sources. Jaireeodell (talk) 12:59, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.