Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nurungul Tohti
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Sandstein 20:19, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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Some notability is existing, but it's very shaky Arthistorian1977 (talk) 22:19, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
- DELETE: While an interesting story. nowhere near the standards of WP:NOTABLE. -O.R.Comms 04:18, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 14:55, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:08, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- Delete; no long term notability. Kierzek (talk) 03:09, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Read the sources: she's not just notable for the abduction of her son, but the fact that she continues to work as an activist. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:02, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Weakkeep Very much a borderline case but has received some coverage for activism including in books. AusLondonder (talk) 07:54, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- Changing to keep on the basis of coverage found. AusLondonder (talk) 16:09, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - has received coverage in multiple reliable sources, passes the general notability criteria.—UY Scuti Talk 15:21, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor Talk! 07:34, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor Talk! 07:34, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
- Weak delete. Most of what I see falls under WP:ONEEVENT... which sources discuss her activism without focusing on the kidnapping incident? She is an admirable person, but as much as I support such activism, not every activist who gets ONEEVENT spotlight is notable. Ping me if better sources are found. User:AusLondonder: which books? I see nothing on Google Books other than a reprint of the RadioFreeAsia article.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:52, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment @Piotrus:, I fixed up the article a bit and found that she was mentioned in TIME. Plus her situation is ongoing because of the charges of racism she's taking to the Chinese government. The situation started as one event that has snowballed into something else. It would be nice if anyone who knew the language could look up some local info... Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:13, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Megalibrarygirl: Thank you. I am really sympathetic towards her story, but I still see it as a ONEEVENT case, and not every activist, even not every detained one, is notable. I'd really like to hear from Chinese and even more relevant, Uyghur language readers, if there are any better sources. I'd settle even for a short bio of her on an activist homepage, describing what else she has been doing as an activist. Anyone? Also, I wonder if this could be salvaged as a notable event...? Worst case, perhaps the content could be mergeable somewhere... Hmmm. Perhaps into Kidnapping in China? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:25, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 TT me 16:08, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Won't hurt to relist to get more input to achieve better consensus. Onel5969 TT me 16:09, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Onel5969 TT me 16:09, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Won't hurt to relist to get more input to achieve better consensus. Onel5969 TT me 16:09, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Onel5969 TT me 16:09, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
- Piotrus, I think input from those who know Chinese would be very helpful and I'm also amenable to moving the content to another area, like you suggested. Thanks. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:16, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Megalibrarygirl: I've posted requests for comments at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Central_Asia#Can_anyone_save_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion.2FNurungul_Tohti.3F and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_China#Can_anyone_save_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion.2FNurungul_Tohti.3F. Not sure what else we can do. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:45, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- Keep It's borderline, however, I'm of the opinion that since this person is noted as an activist in China it's notable and the issue we are all having here has something to do with a language barrier. --MurderByDeadcopy"bang!" 02:05, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- @MurderByDeadcopy: So you say you've found the sources that "this person is noted as an activist in China"? Do share, do share. Regarding language barriers, please see WP:MUST --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:45, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- I believe you've misunderstood what I stated, however, I will put my fav wikilaw here, WP:IAR! --MurderByDeadcopy"bang!" 04:23, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- @MurderByDeadcopy: So you say you've found the sources that "this person is noted as an activist in China"? Do share, do share. Regarding language barriers, please see WP:MUST --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:45, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- Keep, per Megalibrarygirl and Talk. Still in the international news three years after the kidnapping. Martinogk (talk) 08:39, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Coverage is light but ongoing. Multiple arrests, ongoing activism etc put this beyond ONEEVENT. JbhTalk 11:59, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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