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The result was keep‎. Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 04:56, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jonas Pilling

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The justification for this subject having an article is the long-running dispute between him and his parishioners, which did attract some attention from local press at the time, but it seems that much of this content could simply be rolled into the article on St Mark's Church, Huddersfield, where he was the vicar for a number of years. It is not clear to me why Pilling himself needs an article of his own. Leonstojka (talk) 01:14, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The substance of the article is bigger than Pilling himself, but he is the vehicle for the publication of that substance, because he was the subject of the event concerned. For whatever reason, he was unable to fulfil his task as a vicar in one of the most terribly deprived areas of England at the time. When the Bishop did not appear to be doing anything about this tragedy for the local poor, the local newspaper said sadly that there was much work to do (for the poor and deprived). The fact is, the Bishop left it far too long before resolving the issue for the local congregation. To understand what happened, we need the full story (as far as we can know it) of Pilling. We cannot surmise, speculate or give opinion, but what we can do is give all the facts and give the reader a chance to get a full idea of what happened. In order to give all the facts, we need the full article on Pilling. To put the whole Pilling article into the church article would be to overwhelm the latter. Besides all that, the Pilling article is in itself an interesting study on how the Anglican church dealt (or didn't deal at all) with inadequate and/or suffering priests. In this case at least, the Bishop just let it be.

Since the severe problems began in 1905, we cannot blame the interruption of World War I for the bishop's lack of action. We cannot know why the bishop behaved like that, or exactly why Pilling behaved like that, but as the article stands, we can at least look at the facts. And the facts are important for the history of Huddersfield, for the history of the church, for the history of Anglican priests, and for the history of Pilling himself. Not all Wikipedia articles have to be about heroes and success stories. Sometimes we can learn from the mistakes of the past. One thing for sure: we should not shut our eyes to what happened in Huddersfield in Pilling's time, and nor should we actively try to minimise its importance by deleting the article and shrinking it to fit into a dusty corner of another article.. Storye book (talk) 09:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I think some attention from local press understates it a bit. This unusual dispute received coverage in papers across the UK over a period of years - e.g. the article quotes reports in the Aberdeen Journal and The Cornishman, which certainly aren't local to Huddersfield. Merging it into the article about the church itself would make that article rather long and unbalanced. Adam Sampson (talk) 11:18, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Pretty clearly a historical figure of some note amongst his contemporaries of 100 years ago. Passes GNG. Carrite (talk) 16:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the drama described above. Hyperbolick (talk) 07:07, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - outside of the drama of the dispute between him and parishioners, which seems rather something of a tempest in a teacup, this is a mere footnote in the history of the church. The entire, laborious history is not notable enough to recount beyond the existing paragraph in the church's article (which could be expanded slightly if necessary). Outside of that dispute, he does not seem notable at all. WmLawson (talk) 00:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a "tempest in a teacup", since this church scandal lasted between 1905 and 1921, with World War I in the middle, when the poor and deprived of the area really needed church charity. At that time, vicars were in charge of the charity given by individual churches, and for many hundreds of years, England and then the United Kingdom depended primarily on the Roman Catholic Church and then the Anglican Church for charity and welfare. Apart from the religious tradition of helping the poor, the local rich people felt beholden to the church for various reasons, so that the church could ask them for money to help the poor. During Pilling's employment in that Huddersfield position, that need for the church to help the poor still pertained. Because that was one of the poorest and most deprived areas of the country, Pilling's failure would have been disastrous. If the church did not help destitute people, then destitute people died - and that situation continued in that area of Huddersfield for over fifteen years, while the church authorities looked on and did nothing, in spite of newspaper comments and public knowledge across the country.
Because this is a biography of Pilling, we can give the full facts of him and his life. Without that, and if the story were told from another perspective, his details would have to be curtailed, and he would just look blameworthy, whereas the facts tell us that the case was not that simple. The buck stopped with the bishop.
British history is what made us what we are today. Our history, good or bad, is part of our identity. Today, history is a grown-up matter - no longer merely a list of kings and wars for schoolboys to memorise. Today, history includes social history - including the histories of ordinary working people, whose biographies symbolise the lives of all the millions of people who were here before us. Today, history helps us learn from our mistakes, and goodness knows the church needs to learn from its mistakes, where past hiring of the wrong kind of priest is now very much in the limelight. Real history needs to be understood fully in all its aspects. Storye book (talk) 08:41, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Owen× ☎ 23:11, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Investigate Europe

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None of the sources that mention the subject cover it in depth, so fails the WP:SIRS test, and so fails WP:NORG and WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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As AFC reviewer, I'm a keep here. The article probably needs a bit of work, but it does appear to meet WP:NMEDIA#Newspapers, magazines and journals on the surface, and appears to have been used and cited in a number of different reliable publication, as well as received coverage in various non-English sources, mainly French and Germans (see fr:Investigate_Europe for some more examples of this). I think that WP:GNG is met in this instance. Mdann52 (talk) 17:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mdann52 is probably right. We tend to be more lenient with articles about sources anyway, because they have immediate practical value to editors (primarily when we are evaluating the reliability of sources for use in other articles). WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:08, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Mdann52. After reviewing several sources in the article, it's clear that criteria 3 and 4 of NMEDIA for newspapers are met, and possibly 1 too. (And yes, that's "just an essay", but in this case it provides a compelling reasoning for keeping this article. Also applicable is the similar essay WP:NNEWSPAPER, which clarifies that Many periodicals are notably influential without being the subject of secondary sources.) Toadspike [Talk] 05:37, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Atomic Heart. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:32, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mundfish

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Does not meet WP:NCORP. Cited coverage in secondary sources is limited to coverage of the subject's sole published game, Atomic Heart, and the page should thus redirect to there. Other coverage falls short of WP:ORGCRITE specifications: unbylined pieces in news aggregators (themselves citing a non-independent interview [1]), interviews ([2], [3], [4]), an unbylined press release in Armenian cited as if it were multiple sources ([5], [6]), and business churnalism [7]. None of the above even begin to make a case for NCORP, and searching for additional coverage online just turned up results about Atomic Heart again. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect per WP:NOPAGE. My view is that any coverage is so closely linked to their game that it is better to have it all on one page. Alpha3031 (t • c) 10:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Atomic Heart as per WP:ATD, none of the references meet GNG/WP:NCORP criteria for establishing notability of the company. HighKing⁺⁺ 19:40, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to SC Gjilani#Players as a sensible ATD. Owen× ☎ 23:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Qëndrim Ismajli

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Seems like a case of WP:TOOSOON as I am struggling to find WP:SIGCOV on this Football Superleague of Kosovo player. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 17:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:15, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete - subject may be renowned in his home country but the references do not establish this notability. I also performed a search on my own but couldn't find enough evidence or trace of notability. Mevoelo (talk)
Weak keep—The player has had a pretty consistent career lately with a first division team. I think this makes up for a lack of sustained coverage, considering the place in which the player plays. I could, however, just as easily swing the other way. Anwegmann (talk) 22:03, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Note that participation-based athlete criteria were deprecated in 2022. BLPs require strong sourcing. JTtheOG (talk) 21:53, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect. If it's "too soon" we better do this instead of pure deletion. We can redirect it to SC Gjilani or SC Gjilani#Players, I suppose. Better Nuncio (talk) 10:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 01:07, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kyogaku shiken

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Raoul mishima (talk · contribs) attempted to nominate this article for deletion, but managed to {{subst:afd2}} directly onto the log page instead of creating a subpage and transcluding it (and did not tag the article either). Their rationale follows:

I'm not sure I understand this article, but I'm sure it is not encyclopedic et does not belong here.

This is purely a procedural nomination to clean up a malformatted attempt; I offer no opinion or comment of my own. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 01:07, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DFH Network

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Fails WP:GNG. Kadı Message 19:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:32, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Logan Basson

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 20:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD, although if a section was added to his brother Bjorn Basson then could perhaps be redirected there. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:33, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Does not appear to satisfy the general notability guidelines for inclusion in Wikipedia--all of the sources are from the South African Rugby Union's website. Quick Google and new searches don't turn up much beyond primary coverage and mirrors of this Wikipedia article. Malinaccier (talk) 19:42, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:55, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BasKet Note Pads

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No significant coverage for this software. A PROD was removed several years ago. SL93 (talk) 20:00, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, I couldn't find sources that passed WP:GNG. Suonii180 (talk) 23:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Sourcing I find is primary, or an article with 25 alternatives to this program, neither of which helps notability. Sources now in the article are not useful. Oaktree b (talk) 23:56, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Timothy Redwine

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Current sources don't show sufficient notability to pass WP:GNG and film/tv credits don't pass WP:NACTOR. A WP:BEFORE search didn't bring up in-depth sources which showed notability. Suonii180 (talk) 16:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete a teenage actor with no high-profile roles (and no roles as an adult); presumably a low-profile individual. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep (nominator blocked as a sock). Elli (talk | contribs) 00:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Macintyre Art Advisory

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NOTABILITY. Nothing for the past several years has been happening in this article. I also tried to look for a source but was unable to. GoodHue291 (talk) 21:58, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ^Complex/_Rational 22:32, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of songs in Fortnite Festival

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Completely unsourced WP:GAMECRUFT and WP:GAMEGUIDE content that has nothing worth merging into Fortnite Festival. Unlike some other rhythm games, there is no worthwhile coverage of this games song selection, especially since it isn't based on DLC. λ NegativeMP1 21:03, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Useless WP:GAMECRUFT list, as said. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 21:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

not useless at all buddy, Guitar Hero games have list of songs and so do other song games like Just Dance, and Rock Band WrestleLuxury Wiki (talk) 11:36, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS λ NegativeMP1 12:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete a topic better suited for some other wiki. Walsh90210 (talk) 21:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thank you, like this man is hating on me and calling this wiki useless for no reason, even thought other music games like Guitar Hero, Rock Band, and Just Dance have a list of their songs in their wiki or a separate wiki. WrestleLuxury Wiki (talk) 21:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

wait nvm you chose for it to be deleted as well, you guys make no sense WrestleLuxury Wiki (talk) 21:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per WP:GAMECRUFT. Shouldn't even be a section in the parent article, let alone its own article. Sergecross73 msg me 00:14, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
may I ask why? WrestleLuxury Wiki (talk) 21:42, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:GAMECRUFT. Sergecross73 msg me 00:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I did find a couple sources listing the songs. There may be some WP:NLIST potential, but GAMECRUFT and GAMEGUIDE make it a harder sell. I think a merge could be appropriate here. PantheonRadiance (talk) 00:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is a job for a Spotify playlist and a specialist wiki, not us. Nate • (chatter) 01:46, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per MrSchimpf MKsLifeInANutshell (talk) 14:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete in agreement with all the delete votes above. I will also add WP:NLIST, which works against the article rather than offering merge possibilities as speculated above. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 21:59, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per WP:NLIST and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Svartner (talk) 04:49, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Three 6 Mafia. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:36, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Koopsta Knicca

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The sourcing and coverage surrounding this deceased rapper seems to be very borderline by WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC standards. This is more of a request to see if any better sourcing can be found, though I am bringing this here because it's very possible that this could just end up being tossed out. The only three independent sources on this page are announcements about his death in 2015, he does not appear to have received significant coverage for anything else he did, and the rest are just links to buy his albums on Amazon, which are in no way acceptable as sources. He does not appear to have had a solo album that ever charted or got certified. I'm unsure if what's here is enough to establish notability, so I will refrain from voting (though, if consensus comes to deleting it, I would support a redirect to Three 6 Mafia, the unmistakably notable group that he was once a member of) and so I will leave the decision to everyone else. JeffSpaceman (talk) 20:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Three 6 Mafia: I can only find his name associated with the group, [8], outside of dying there isn't much coverage of him. Oaktree b (talk) 00:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Three 6 Mafia. Not worthy of a standalone article as his solo work is not notable, with barely any content about his career in the article and excessive sourcing of Amazon, which is definitely not a viable source. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 08:23, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Three 6 Mafia as there is otherwise insufficient standalone coverage outside of the obits. WmLawson (talk) 00:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Owen× ☎ 23:06, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stillington railway station

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Fails GNG. Of the three sources, one is a trivial mention and two do not mention the station at all. A BEFORE search does not find anything more substantial. My bold redirect to Clarence Railway was removed by the article's creator. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:50, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Additiomal sources have been added. Deleting just one station article on a line doesn't make a good reader experience as it creates inconsistency and breaks the adjacent stations navigation templates. Garuda3 (talk) 08:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Garuda3. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Garuda3, I especially agree that we should not delete just one of the stations on this line. _└^UkPaolo/_talk^┐ 18:02, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Garuda3@Necrothesp@UkPaolo: The additional sources that have been added still do not add up to a GNG pass. None of the sources have significant coverage of the station: three of the six don't mention it at all, and the other three have only trivial mentions or a few bullet points. See the source analysis:

**Source assessment table: prepared by User:Pi.1415926535**
Source	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://books.google.com/books?id=VE5CAQAAIAAJ&q=stillington+railway+station+clarence+railway	Trivial mentions of the location	✘ No
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-61853202	Does not mention the station	✘ No
https://books.google.com/books?id=1xdKAQAAMAAJ&q=stillington+railway+station+clarence+railway	~ The article mentions the subject briefly, but does not offer much detail	~ Partial
https://books.google.com/books?id=8TEEAAAAQAAJ&q=stillington+railway+station+clarence+railway	Does not mention the station	✘ No
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/20205553.rail-stations-open-north-east-2035/	Does not mention the station	✘ No
https://www.stillington-whitton.com/history.php	~ The article mentions the subject briefly, but does not offer much detail	~ Partial
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

We don't arbitrarily keep articles that fail GNG simply because other articles link to them. When there's a set of existing articles that are very similar, yes, it makes sense to discuss them as a group for consistency (especially if they're marginal on notability). But that's not the case here - this is a newly created article that's a clear GNG fail, and there's no consistency with nearby articles (some of which are at AfD, and others absolutely would not survive AfD). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- @Pi.1415926535 I've been around a while, I do understand how this place operates, and I do hear what you're saying and your concerns. I nevertheless respectfully retain my opinion that this article should be kept, and that our encyclopedia is improved for so-doing. Personally I do find the article to be consistent with articles on other stations on the line, and would be annoyed by the inconsistency of deleting one of these seemingly quite arbitrarily. Clearly folks are entitled to disagree, and express opposing views; that's the purpose of these AfD discussions after all. I'm not sure it is entirely reasonable to state other articles "absolutely would not survive AfD" though, this one appears to be surviving quite well so far... _└^UkPaolo/_talk^┐ 16:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP: Consistency and per WP: Notable. As it's got coverage in quite a few books and articles. DragonofBatley (talk) 17:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andries Schutte

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 19:36, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:34, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Owen× ☎ 22:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Novembre (band)

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No evidence of any notability. There are everal spin-off articles detailing each disc, but these also have only reviews as their sources. This article has a single source and searches don't find anything better. Fails WP:BAND and all their discography articles fail similarly. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 19:11, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep the band article as has reliable sources coverage in AllMusic here and here, Sputnik Music here and here, and Chronicles of Chaos here here and here. Haven't done a full search yet, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect the album articles to the band as there isn't enough content and coverage to justify standalone articles, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:29, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the band article which now has the sources from all the album articles I've just redirected, except URSA which has keeping potential with more reliable sourcing than the other articles.SirZPthundergod9001 (talk) 00:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment reviews do not help in asserting notability if the whole article fails WP:BAND, which it still does. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 08:00, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

reviews of their music contribute to their notability in criteria 1 of WP:NBAND in the same way that reviews of books contrbute to the notability of an author, and reviews of artist's exhibitions contribute to the notability of an artist and so on regarding other creative people, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Contrary to what the nominator claims, reviews help satisfy the very first criterion: "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself [...] such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media". Novembre also blatantly meets WP:NBAND#5. Furthermore, there are lot more sources. Metal.de alone has 6 reviews [9], Rock Hard (magazine) has 7 reviews [10] etc. Geschichte (talk) 19:40, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, have found some extra sources here, here,here, here,here, and small news items news here. Metal Hammer, New Noise Magazine, and Metal Storm are reliable sources but i'm not familiar with the other Italian ones, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:48, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Drew van Coller

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was this injury update. JTtheOG (talk) 18:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Malinaccier (talk) 20:21, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marco Kruger

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was this. JTtheOG (talk) 18:03, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:50, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I agree that this article does not meet GNG standards. Easy delete. Go4thProsper (talk) 18:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. I considered redirecting, but I do not think this is a legitimate search term as this topic is a new term from a single journal article that does not appear to have caught on. If somebody disagrees and feels the need to create a redirect, feel free to do so. Malinaccier (talk) 19:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leave-one-out error

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This article does not belong in an encyclopedia. It appears that what is described in the article does not correlate one-to-one with the title of the article. The article describes "stability" of leave-one-out error, whereas the title of the article is leave-one-out error. The title could be changed appropriately, to "stability of leave-one-out error", but then it would be even more clear that an article like this does not belong in an encyclopedia. Looking at WP:NOT, Wikipedia is just not supposed to be a textbook or a scientific journal, where this article might belong. It is too technical, it does not sufficiently define the math terms, and is overall unreadable. Even for someone who is relatively familiar with this method, this article just does not convey anything meaningful. A reader who wants to learn about this in such detail will not look in an encyclopedia, they will look in research papers and textbooks on the method. Manyyassin (talk) 16:35, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete inscrutable article. "Leave-one-out cross validation" is discussed at Cross-validation (statistics)#Leave-one-out cross-validation; I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a different name for that concept, or something else. The only google hits for "leave one out error" (specifically) seem to be about a different topic in machine learning. Walsh90210 (talk) 16:52, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Cross-validation_(statistics)#Leave-one-out_cross-validation ~~Delete~~: this is a half-hashed synopsis of the sole reference, which is a journal article that proposes the definitions that are here but not in Cross-validation (statistics)#Leave-one-out cross-validation. WP:NOTTEXTBOOK. — MarkH₂₁^talk 18:50, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Switched to redirect, since that’s an obvious alternative. — MarkH₂₁^talk 18:45, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The delsort notice does not belong at the top of the AfD. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 00:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unclear, redundant article with a title that is an evident neologism. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 00:31, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Cross-validation_(statistics)#Leave-one-out_cross-validation: where it is already described in as much detail as is encyclopedically warranted. Owen× ☎ 17:50, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Demoscene#List of demoparties. Owen× ☎ 17:47, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pilgrimage (demoparty)

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. The only thing I found was this webpage (not article) on The Salt Lake Tribune's website. A possible alternative to deletion is a redirect to Demoscene#List of demoparties. toweli (talk) 15:41, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails GNG and NEVENT. I was unable to any reliable sources about the article's subject. 🌙Eclipse ^(talk) ^(contribs) 14:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not seeing how this is notable, coverage seems very superficial and niche. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Demoscene#List of demoparties as an WP:AtD. --Mika1h (talk) 11:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect per Mika1h. There are some thin sources to 'zines and the like, but the sourced coverage is worth about a sentence in the "Description" column of the list at Demoscene. SnowFire (talk) 19:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:44, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dhananjay Ghosh

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Violates many versions of WP:NOT. I could not find any mention of their name on the listed source, as well as being unable to find any RS regarding Ghosh and their campaign. A candidate for a political office is not notable in of itself and their business career has not provided any sources. Grahaml35 (talk) 15:35, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Non-- notable politicians and not passes WP:NPOL. --- Infínítybσy7 • (@píng mє-tαlk mє) 16:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:46, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Totectors

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No apparent signs of notability for this brand of safety footwear. The only Google results are for outlets that sell the brand, and the only news results discuss the relaunch of the brand by International Brands Group after the original manufacturer went out of business. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Notable brand, synonymous with steel capped safety boots in UK industry for decades. There's plenty of coverage in copyright sources. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 15:13, 5 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]

User:WikiDan61 Please improve the article by adding information about the change of ownership. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 15:48, 5 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]
- @Rich Farmbrough: "plenty of coverage in copyright sources"? I'm not sure what that means. If it means that Totectors have applied for and received copyright protection for their brand, I don't see how that adds to notability. I could expand the article with notes about their acquisition, but I am loath to do so until we've evaluated whether the article merits inclusion / improvement. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - It means that there is coverage which cannot be accessed by simply "Googling". For older entities there will be easily accessible material via searchable on-line archives. For more recent entities there is likely to be material that was published after the widespread adoption of the Web, which will therefore be available. The period between 1930 and about 2000 is, in some senses, the hardest era to research. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 16:07, 5 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library gives me 21 hits in the basic search, including:
- "Safety Footwear Goes up in Size." 2003. Works Management 56 (12): 37., about the manufacturing capacity after merging with UKS Group's footwear division
- "In Full Rig.” 2003. Forestry & British Timber 32 (5): 35., about some of the safety features in their workboots
- "Brand new plant planned for Totectors". 1994. Apparel International: The Journal of the Clothing and Footwear Institute Volume 25, p. 9, about moving to Rushden.
- Northamptonshire Evening Telegraph says they were the first to make safety footwear in the UK,[11] that they won an award from the Professional Clothing Industry Association Worldwide,[12] and that they're part of International Brands Group (i.e., is able to verify the last sentence in the article, which is currently uncited).[13] I think that this article is the most important find, however, as it reports some recent events but also outlines the company's history in ~200 words, which easily exceeds the standard for SIGCOV proposed in Wikipedia:One hundred words.
All of this give me, at minimum, grave doubt about the claim that this is not a notable business, and I think we should keep it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:13, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
* Keep - one of the articles about the company's acquisition has a section about its history and significance in the town where it was based. [14] I also see mention of it in ''The Victoria History of the County of Northampton'' book from 1902, and various industrial journals have mentioned them -- most of them in trivial ways, but at least one referring to them as ''famous footwear''. It seems like it has marginally enough notability. WmLawson (talk) 03:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of programmes broadcast by Pogo#Animated series. Owen× ☎ 17:45, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mighty Raju

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Fails WP:GNG. M S Hassan (talk) 14:39, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Pogo#Animated_series -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Pogo#Animated_series. RangersRus (talk) 15:02, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy Keep‎. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Let'srun (talk) 18:02, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miriam Grossman

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~~Fails WP:NACADEMIC and WP:GNG. All provided sources (except perhaps NZHerald, which is directly about subject's work) are not WP:SIGCOV.~~ Instances of WP:SYNTH and failed verification of inline sourced claims. Melmann 14:40, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The sourcing was slightly subpar when nominated but I just added extra sources including more in-depth academic coverage of the person. I do not believe WP:NACADEMIC is the relevant criteria, as her notability comes from her being a quack and oppositional to real academics. Additionally, per WP:BASIC, If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability - in addition to the sources that describe her activities in greater depth, in total RS show she's a prominent member of multiple conversion therapy groups who's been publicly advocating in multiple countries and court systems for years.

P.S. For disclosure's sake, I'd been thinking about writing an article on Grossman for a while and had the title watchlisted - last I'd checked a few months ago I thought she didn't meet GNG but I believe sources published since then have shifted the situation.

@Melmann, while I agree the article in its original state needed work, I'm interested to know what you think of the additional sources. Best regards, Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 17:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, this is much better, definitely in the direction of WP:HEY. In my view, WP:NACADEMIC applies, since she appears to be primarily notable for her “research” on LGBTQ issues. But, with this additional sourcing, she may meet WP:NPERSON's basic criteria, especially now that there is more than one source of significant coverage. Melmann 20:25, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Now adequately sourced for notability.--Ipigott (talk) 06:13, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Satisfies WP:GNG. MaskedSinger (talk) 08:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawn by the nominator - Edits since the initial nomination have improved sourcing, rendering the original reasoning outdated. WP:HEY Melmann 17:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Jake Wartenberg (talk) 17:34, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Close updated to no consensus per Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 June 13. Daniel (talk) 23:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Otago NORML

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Most of the sources are either regional publication (mainly the Otago Daily Times), university newspapers (Critic Te Arohi) and primary-sourced YouTube video. I only see two national sources. The first I can't access, and the second is a mention of a cannabis museum but does not go into detail. ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I'd give the ODT more credit than being a regional publication; it's the major newspaper covering Otago. Yes, that is a region, but you could also argue the same for The Press in Christchurch, and I would also disagree with that thinking. The sustained ODT coverage brings this over the general notability line for me. Schwede 66 07:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as the ODT and One News coverage clearly establishes notability imo. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 08:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep While there are not 'more' sources available, but the existing ones establish the subject's notability. For example, the Critic here, establish GNG. Others include Otago Times here among others. --Tumbuka Arch (talk) 08:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think Critic Te Ārohi established notability as it is a student newspaper of Otago University. ―Panamitsu (talk) 09:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:RSSM applies here: given their local audience and lack of independence from their student body, student media does not contribute to notability for topics related to home institutions — HTGS (talk) 10:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep, agreed with comments above. ODT establishes notability. Student newspapers are prone to inaccuracy and errors but I suppose they might be used in this context. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 09:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete (or redirect to NORML New Zealand) as lacking significant non-trivial coverage. I don’t think the ODT is an unreliable source, nor do I think regional papers should be looked down on (technically all of NZ’s printed newspapers are regional), but most of the “coverage” in the article is very sparse, and neither the ODT nor the One News sources represent non-trivial coverage of the org itself, so much as coverage of various events and people where the org was mentioned (per WP:SIGCOV example on Clinton’s high school band). I have the impression the org is currently defunct or inactive. Thanks Panamitsu, I have been meaning to nominate this article for a while. — HTGS (talk) 10:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. None of the discussion of Otago Daily Times is relevant; WP:BRANCH is extremely clear that "the individual chapters of national and international organizations are usually not considered notable enough to warrant a separate article – unless they are substantially discussed by reliable independent sources that extend beyond the chapter's local area." Every source in this article, and every source I could find in a BEFORE search, is either local to the Dunedin area or to the university itself. (The only non-local source is really about Abe Gray and a museum, not sigcov of Otago NORML.) I would encourage other editors and participants here to engage with the WP:BRANCH criteria here, since WP:ORGCRIT establishes a higher standard than WP:GNG for organizations. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/Merge per above Traumnovelle (talk) 04:35, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Keep - The rationale for deletion being presented is that, while this is a subject of multiple pieces of significant, independent, published coverage of presumed reliability, because the newspaper is not "national", this somehow invalidates the source for GNG. This is emphatically not the case. There is no requirement that a source be of national scope, period, end of statement. Carrite (talk) 16:54, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Under WP:BRANCH, the organization (as a chapter of NORML) must have coverage in news outlets/sources that go beyond its region. That is where the requirement for a source of greater than regional scope is quite clear. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dclemens1971, BRANCH says that it needs to have coverage outside the local area (not the region). The WP:AUD section of that guideline requires only one (1) non-local source, and explicitly names a regional source as a non-local source.

(Also, the nom says there are two national sources, and two national sources + multiple regional sources = a lot more than the single non-local source required by WP:NORG.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BRANCH says no standalone article "unless they are substantially discussed by reliable independent sources that extend beyond the chapter's local area." Otago Daily Times serves Dunedin and its local area. There is no need to wikilawyer the meaning of the term "local." There is only one national source (NZHerald) in the article, right here, and it does not even mention Otago NORML, much less provide substantial coverage. Dclemens1971 (talk) 06:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. I see an agreement that the article has sufficient references to establish notability. (non-admin closure) Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 15:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May Gilbert

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Does not meet any of the criteria for WP:ARTIST. Only 1 article links to this. LibStar (talk) 14:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The article has no reliable sources and is essentially an orphan with no article linking to it. This evidence suggests the article does not fall on the notability side. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 15:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's not true that the article has no reliable sources: there is a link to the Chch Art Gallery website and also the publication "Ink on Paper". MurielMary (talk) 20:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Her work is in the collections of the Museum of New Zealand and the Christchurch Art Gallery. TheSwamphen (talk) 23:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Would pass artist notability for being in the collections of two museums as shown, but there is a lack of any kind of sourcing... I don't see books, Jstor, Gscholar or a Getty ULAN listing. Even a .nz websearch doesn't turn up much of anything. Oaktree b (talk) 15:31, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Actually, I do not see that her work is in the Museum of New Zealand. The link leads to a list of photographs taken of her work by the photographer Frank Simon Hofmann. The link to Christchurch Art Gallery describes her as an important member of the contemporary art collective known as the Rutland Group. The Rutland Group does not have an article, however there is a category Category:People associated with the Rutland Group. I am gonna take a minute to look at this topic.^[1]^[2]^[3] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q64864575 Might work as a redirect. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Rutland Group, September 1946". Auckland War Memorial Museum. Retrieved 7 June 2024.
^ "Rutland times revisited - Lifestyle News". NZ Herald. 7 June 2024. Retrieved 7 June 2024.
^ "Art sleuths revive Rutland - Lifestyle News". NZ Herald. 7 June 2024. Retrieved 7 June 2024.

I have created a quick draft on the Rutland Group. I deduce its focus was on printmaking. I do not have access to the book "We learnt to see :Elam's Rutland Group 1935-1958". I hope that the attendees of Wikipedia:Meetup/Christchurch/Ink on Paper meet-up and MurielMary might take a look and see if this is worth pursuing. It is fine with me if this is determined to be non-notable subject. Hoping that New Zealanders can expand it a bit. I am offering it as an alternative to deletion of May Gilbert. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 19:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep- artist has work in the Christchurch Art Gallery and was profiled in the publication "Ink on Paper". MurielMary (talk) 04:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep this artist article was created as part of the Ink on Paper edit-a-thon. The accompanying publication in the references establishes notability. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 07:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep her inclusion in the Christchurch exhibition and accompanying book Ink on Paper is notable, and the inclusion of photographs of twelve of her works in Te Papa's collection does count for something. DrThneed (talk) 02:25, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep References used are solid and enough to reach notability standards. If she wasn't notable as a New Zealand printmaker, she wouldn't have been included in a high quality and well researched book and her work would not feature in GLAM collections. Einebillion (talk) 04:40, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 17:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Upcoming Anuel AA and Ozuna album

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Does not meet WP:GNG. Beyond lacking a title and release date, none of the available coverage is in significant depth or particularly independent, as it comprises newspapers quoting the artists directly for vague details about their upcoming collaborative project, and one article about a concert where the artists played together (but which does not mention any upcoming album). Searching online for the artists' names only turns up coverage about prior work together. As the advertised album does not list either artist as the primary artist, and neither of their biography articles discuss the upcoming project, so the usual album ATD of redirecting to the recording artist does not apply. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 14:29, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: So it's an un-named album, sourced from interviews, that is coming out sometime in 2024? Nothing here is meeting notability standards; interviews can't be used to show notability and the sourcing is thread-bare otherwise. I'd have put a sentence or two in each of the singers' articles and left it as a one-liner. There is nothing notable about something that might or might not happen sometime, we aren't sure when, that two guys talked about briefly. Oaktree b (talk) 19:20, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Speculation about a nonexistent product that reads like a news report. Upcoming Anuel AA album was just deleted for the same reasons. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 08:27, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for similar reasons as those argued by everyone at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Upcoming Anuel AA album. Nothing but fan speculation that an album might be in the very early discussion phase, and not even enough confirmation for a brief statement at each musician's article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 21:57, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I agree with the above discussion. It would be best to wait until further information about this album comes out. Aoba47 (talk) 14:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Thanthi TV without prejudice against merging any properly sourced relevant content. Owen× ☎ 17:02, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanthi One

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Fails WP:GNG; written like a TV guide. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 14:09, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong Keep : The article's subject is notable. Thanthi one is an airing new TV channel from Daily Thanthi Group in Tamil Nadu. They already have one channelThanthi TV. strong source from (www.dailythanthi.com, www.afaqs.com, www.medianews4u.com, cinema.vikatan.com). It deserves to be kept. in future can we add more source. This is not TV guide, only added programs broadcast by Thanthi One. Official Web (Thanthi One, Thanthi One's channel on YouTube)--P.Karthik.95 (talk) 15:07, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: A channel could be notable; sourcing now is very PR-ish and I can't find anything better. This is written like a program guide, not appropriate for a wiki article. Oaktree b (talk) 19:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Thanthi TV. This is likely a case of WP:TOO EARLY. Note that www.dailythanthi.com and www.dtnext.in. are both owned by Dina Thanthi, which are self-published sources. DareshMohan (talk) 23:07, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Unreliable sources and fails WP:NCORP. RangersRus (talk) 15:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Thanthi TV The title is a viable search term, but Thanthi One is so new that it does not have notability on its own, nor do all the writeups from related media confer notability (WP:NEWSORGINDIA). A mention in Thanthi TV that a general entertainment channel was started is about all we can do right now. It's also worth noting that this channel has no original programming, merely dubbed programs produced for other entities. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It's an all-rerun channel and its connection to the news-heavy Thanthi TV is very tenuous at best, so I don't feel a redirect would be proper here. Nate • (chatter) 01:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 14:16, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KSOY-LD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 14:04, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Delete, 2 good sources isn’t exactly enough to work, but it’s close enough for a weak delete. --Danubeball (talk) 01:33, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:15, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Richard N. Holzapfel

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Based on Talk:Richard N. Holzapfel#WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE, it appears that the subject of the article is requesting deletion of the article. It doesn't appear from the current article text that he qualifies as a public figure so WP:BIODELETE could apply. FyzixFighter (talk) 13:31, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Honor Request to Delete -- I think that the article could survive AfD, but the subject is not such a sufficient public figure to preserve against stated wishes. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 19:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The subject has had public roles over the course of his life and written “over 45 books”. Doesn’t seem like a request for deletion should be honored here. Thriley (talk) 19:15, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merely writing books doesn't make an author notable. There has to be some indication that the books were significant or influential. XOR'easter (talk) 00:34, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unless better sources can be found. All the sources are from the LDS's own websites which are too close to the subject. "Over 45 books" isn't even sourced nor are any of the books listed. — Iadmc ♫^talk 20:35, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per apparent WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE and lack of notability. All non-primary sources available appear to be affiliated church publications; not seeing any secondary and independent sourcing. The number of books written is not germane to the criteria for notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable, doesn’t meet WP:GNG standards, and few WP:RS citations. Easy delete. Go4thProsper (talk) 18:38, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

* Delete - The sources are not really enough to show notability outside of the LDS organization. Delete. WmLawson (talk) 05:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:16, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of battles in Penghu

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Unsourced and very short (4 entries) list without much context. I don't think there's much reason for it to exist as its own article, as opposed to those events being described in the Penghu article. toweli (talk) 13:17, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Merge to Penghu. A brief search did not produce any sources that list these battles in this way, which means the subject is not notable. Toadspike [Talk] 07:27, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Though the small list can still be summarised on the main Penghu article. Dympies (talk) 05:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I would present something different from the above. I do see why this list existed in the first place. According to the respective article in zhwiki, the list was based on the umbrella term "澎湖四大戰役" (The Four Battles at Penghu), which I found occasional use in multiple academic journals and media articles. (For instance, a press release of Penghu County Government [15], articles from Central News Agency[16], SET News[17], Penghu Times [zh][18], and a Master thesis[19]) So I think this list actually touches on the criteria for WP:NLIST marginally. However, I do not think this term has any historical or academic significance aside from using it as a collective referral when analyzing Penghu's history and military status. These collective terms for a group of similar battles are very common and this particular one does not demonstrate too much value to fulfill WP:SALAT. Besides, three of the four battles already have their own articles, while the fourth one (The Siege of Fort Fongguei in 1624) is also an independent article on zhwiki [zh]. It is unnecessary to include summaries of these battles when there are extensive details in the main articles, and the fact that nothing much can be written in this list would result in failing WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Therefore, I think it is more than sufficient to let the listed battles have their independent articles, and the umbrella term can be mentioned within each of those independent articles, instead of having a stand-alone list that duplicates the content. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:05, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of programmes broadcast by Nickelodeon Sonic#Animated series. Malinaccier (talk) 14:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shiva (TV series)

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Doesn't pass WP:GNG. M S Hassan (talk) 13:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Nickelodeon_Sonic#Animated_series -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:11, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mushy Yank Shiva aired on both Nickelodeon and Nickelodeon Sonic channels, and it is also digitally available on JioCinema. Therefore, redirecting it to Nickelodeon Sonic programming list might not be appropriate. M S Hassan (talk) 11:29, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. True. But it was originally broadcast on N. Sonic and N. only. And the latter does not list the series, whereas the NSonic list does (and the first is a part of the latter, fwiw). If you find a better target (Viacom 18?), consider I agree. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer to delete it rather than redirect it to another article. M S Hassan (talk) 11:56, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see! I'll stand by my redirect and target then. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:40, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Nickelodeon_Sonic#Animated_series. If Viacom18 page had list of shows it produced, I would have redirected it there. RangersRus (talk) 15:14, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Green Gold Animations#Television. Malinaccier (talk) 14:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rudra: Boom Chik Chik Boom

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Fails WP:GNG. M S Hassan (talk) 12:54, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to ~~Nickelodeon_(Indian_TV_channel)#History~~Green_Gold_Animations#Television (thanks, RangersRus, that's a better target): if coverage is considered insufficient. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:14, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mushy Yank Rudra: Boom Chik Chik Boom aired on both Nickelodeon and Nickelodeon Sonic channels, and it is also digitally available on JioCinema and Amazon Prime Video. Therefore, redirecting it to Nickelodeon#History might not be appropriate. This situation parallels that of Shiva. M S Hassan (talk) 11:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See my reply there. Thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC)--->changed target, see above and !vote below.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:49, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Green_Gold_Animations#Television. RangersRus (talk) 15:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. I see a consensus to delete this article, especially given some of the uncertainty brought up by David Eppstein. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Omid Mehrpour

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Lacks significant coverage in third-party reliable sources. The current sources do not provide the required coverage about the subject, as they are either passing mentions, profiles, or not reliable. GSS ^💬 10:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: This subject deserves a Wikipedia Page as per WP:Academics. It fulfills The criteria for academic personals.
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As per the criteria, a subject is considered notable if it fulfills one of the listed criteria. In this case the subject fulfills 1 or more of the WP:Academics criteria as following.

Criteria 1a: Highly Cited publications

•The subject is among top 2% of highly cited scientists according to the Stanford/Elsevier database. 1

•The subject has also high citation metrics on Google scholar. 2 Here below is the list of some scholars with equal status having Wikipedia page and lesser citations on google scholar than this subject for comparison:

1. Ahmad Reza Djali, his Google Scholar Metrics 3

2. Saba Valadkhan, her google scholar Metrics 4

3. Neda Alijani, his google scholar Metrics 5

Criteria 1d: The subject has served as editorial board member of known scientific journals. 6 7 8 9 10

Criteria 1e. The subject had been selected in competitive fellowships 11 12

Criteria 2: The subject has been awarded academic awards. 13

As per the criteria for academic peoples, the subject is notable enough for having separate Wikipedia page. Joidfybvc (talk) 10:06, 22 May 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Joidfybvc (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]

Sorry, but I think you are trying to hard:

1a: None of those mentioned qualify just on h-factor. However, Djali is notable politically, Valadkhan has major awards as does Alijani.
1d: No evidence in article. In any case just being on an editorial board does not qualify as notable.
1e: All his fellowships are minor, none meet the criteria.
2: Minor awards which also don't meet notability criteria.

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Weak keep: I'm not sure the academic awards are notable; his publication records seems ok. Just passing academic notability. Lots of fluff now in the article, but we can edit that. Oaktree b (talk) 13:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I am changing my !vote as delete because of the insufficient sources to meet WP:NPROF. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 18:02, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. First off, nobody deserves an article on Wikipedia. We are a private charity, not a government agency, and in 2024, everyone knows, or should know that, so free speech protections don't apply. Secondly, I don't see any evidence that he passes the WP:PROF test, either by citations in an index, or reaching a distinguished or full professorship. Finally, the burden is now on the defenders of an article that a living person has gotten significant coverage in reliable and independent sources, which I do not see here. Bearian (talk) 15:06, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete. The claims made earlier that his publication record is strong are inappropriate -- his h-factor is moderate but not notable. None of his awards are major. He definitely does not pass WP:NPROF; it is not a close call, he is far below the bar. Ldm1954 (talk) 19:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete We have many researchers around the globe who are working in different fields. Only those who get coverage in reliable and secondary sources get to have an article here. I agree with both of the users above that he does not pass the threshold for notability. Keivan.f^Talk 21:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I have never recommended that an article be rejected on the basis of their h-factor alone. I tend to look at other metrics, and in particular I look at the kinds of articles published and the rigor and selectivity of the journals that they appear in. Unfortunately, this subject's most widely cited publications are all review articles. Such work represents important contributions to the literature, but does not confer notability for our purposes here under C1 of WP:NPROF as it does not represent contributions to new knowledge. Incidentally reaching full professorships is not, by itself, sufficient to satisfy WP:NPROF - but someone who has done that often does end up meeting one or more of the six criteria, or gains notability as an author instead. Anyway, the subject does not meet the WP:NPROF standard in any of its criteria, and the article should be deleted. Qflib (talk) 04:25, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I don't have a strong opinion on his notability, but I have some concerns instead about verifiability of the current article. It lists him as working at some institutions in Iran. A Google Scholar profile under the same name [20] describes a toxicologist who, it claims, works in the US, at Wayne State University. The only verification of this that I can find is a Wayne State poison center hotline newsletter [21] stating that they hired someone by this name last year, but he does not otherwise appear on their web site. Is the Wayne State toxicologist the same person as the Iranian toxicologist? If so, what can we verifiably say about working in the US instead of Iran now? If they are different people, is the publication record mixed up between them? I don't know, but these are the things we should be able to verify from reliable sources to have an article. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Malinaccier (talk) 14:25, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jollof index

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Nt sure if this index/metric is notable. Maybe it should be merged elsewhere or just deleted BoraVoro (talk) 12:58, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but improve with better sources. I was able to find several sources: [22], [23], [24], [25], plus the organization that created the index (not independent of course). I'm not certain about the reliability of those sources—I understand Nigerian news services are often suspect—but with that much coverage I'm sure we can find sources that meet RS discussing the topic. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:11, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are a lot of non-Nigerian sources: 1, 2, 3, 4, as examples. OskarJacobsen (talk) 11:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep I have added two more sources to this article. I don't think there are any good merge targets for it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep well sourced article with two articles entirely about the article subject. Even if the reliance on Nigerian sources for notability were called into question, new sources added by WhatamIdoing are from WaPo and Bloomberg. Oblivy (talk) 02:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Nothing wrong is with this one. Has sources so that's good. About notability, this also seems to be fine but I can have doubts about it. Rrjmrrr (talk) 08:18, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: This is a well-sourced article. Clearly passes WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:51, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. I could relist this, but it does not seem like we are drawing nearer to a breakthrough that would result in a clear consensus being reached. Malinaccier (talk) 20:24, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Danialle Karmanos

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Routine coverage and awards; no reliable sources. Likely not meeting ANYBIO BoraVoro (talk) 12:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Some coverage of her philanthropy [26], [27], [28]. Sources 2 and 3 I've listed are more about a yoga program she founded, perhaps create the article and redirect there or to the Children's Hospital in Detroit? Oaktree b (talk) 12:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Sorry, but the sources and article don't look notable in my eyes. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 14:56, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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delete: This article was tended for several years by a SPA, whose first edit was creating a detailed version of this article..consistent with a vanity page or promotion. 128.252.172.2 (talk) 21:57, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – Refs need some more recent additions, as she appears from the few recent sources to be currently active, but media coverage suggests she is well enough known for people to be wanting to read about her. Older sources need presenting as historical information, not current reports about what she's doing now, for example the cringey quote about waking up each day. --Northernhenge (talk) 19:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 12:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prehistoric Irish battles

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WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN. Most entries WP:UNSOURCED, or WP:ONESOURCE by Standish Hayes O'Grady from 1892 (WP:AGEMATTERS). Follow-up to

List of battles in Albania
List of battles in Algeria
List of battles in Belgium
List of battles in Croatia
List of battles in Afghanistan
List of battles in medieval India
List of conflicts in Egypt. NLeeuw (talk) 12:31, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge/redirect. Personally, I'd suggest merging the notable/supported entries (like the Battle of Magh Tuireadh and Battle of Maigh Mucruimhe) to Irish_battles#Prehistoric_era. Using WP:CSC as the selection criteria. And redirecting this title there. As an WP:ATD. Guliolopez (talk) 13:46, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That seems to only move the problem rather than solve it. I am considering nominating List of conflicts in Ireland next anyway, but decided it was best to look at Prehistoric Irish battles first. As such, I'm not opposed to merging/redirecting as an intermediate step. NLeeuw (talk) 19:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. This is is an WP:INDISCRIMINATE list of information, with no context. Not remotely encyclopedic. None of these alleged battles ever happened. They are medieval literary traditions, not prehistoric events, and the dates given to them are completely arbitrary. Worthless. --Nicknack009 (talk) 20:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete like others. Orientls (talk) 07:38, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
delete: agreed that this is INDISCRIMINATE and just not very useful. i'm surprised it's lasted 19+ years. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 04:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominating rubbish for deletion is a dirty job, but someone's got to do it. NLeeuw (talk) 05:15, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Babylon Mystery Religion

The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure)‎ OhHaiMark (talk) 16:18, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Not remotely notable. The only sources I could find covering these are primary sources, which don't really fulfill the notability guidelines. Additionally, the guidelines for books can't save the article as it hasn't won any awards or got any reviews. OhHaiMark (talk) 11:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Wikipedia:Notability (books)#Criteria says:
A book is presumed notable if it verifiably meets, through reliable sources, at least one of the following criteria:
1. The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.
Sources
1. Garding, Valerie (1981-09-05). "Expose of 'doctrines of demons'". Red Deer Advocate. Archived from the original on 2024-06-06. Retrieved 2024-06-06 – via Newspapers.com.
  The review notes: "Here is a shocking book: an expose of the "doctrines of demons," that have crept into our churches unaware. The number and prevalence of them is so high, I can't begin to discuss these departures from truth here. Without the adequate background of historical fact which the author provides, his claims would appear outrageous. For those who are eager seekers for truth; for those of every denomination and religion who really want to know, I recommend this book. The facts it presents—well documented by Christian and Secular sources alike demand examination."
2. Keating, Karl (1988). Catholicism and Fundamentalism: The Attack on "Romanism" by "Bible Christians". San Francisco: Ignatius Press. pp. 159–162. ISBN 0-89870-177-5. Retrieved 2024-06-06 – via Internet Archive.
  The book notes: "Babylon Mystery Religion does not have much to say about sex; it is not prurient in the most common connotation of the word. It is prurient according to the other dictionary definition in that it satisfies restless cravings many people have. They want to believe there is a dark secret to Catholicism, and they want to be let in on the secret. They want to luxuriate in horror stories, and they want their worst suspicions confirmed. Woodrow's book shows that Catholicism's success has been due not to its merits, but to influence-peddling, fortuitous events, and underhanded dealings, even violence. It demonstrates that Catholicism is really something dark and alien to Christianity—something, in fact, connected with Christianity only tangentially, not essentially. Woodrow's thesis, which is not new to him, is that Catholicism's distinctive elements have not been derived from authentic Christianity. They are not legitimate developments, but wholesale borrowings from pre-Christian cults."
  The book notes: "Babylon Mystery Religion is indebted to Alexander Hislop's The Two Babylons, first published in 1853 and reprinted innumerable times since. In fact, Woodrow's book would not be described wrongly as a revised version of Hislop's. The argument is that things that distinguish Catholicism from Protestantism—such as the papacy, intercession of the saints, and purgatory—are really borrowings from ancient pagan religions. With sketches, photographs, woodcuts, and a host of one-liners, Woodrow attempts to show this. From Egyptian devotion to Isis, the reader is told, comes Catholic devotion to Mary, and from Buddhism comes the sign of the Cross. St. Bridget never existed, but was merely a replacement for a fertility goddess."
3. Olson, Carl E. (2003). Will Catholics Be Left Behind: A Critique of the Rapture and Today's Prophecy Preachers. San Francisco: Ignatius Press. p. 63. ISBN 0-89870-950-4. Retrieved 2024-06-06 – via Internet Archive.
  The book notes in a footnote: "Perhaps the most damning indictment of Hislop's The Two Babylons: The Papal Worship Proved to Be the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife (originally written in 1853–1858) is Ralph Woodrow's The Babylon Connection? (Ralph Woodrow Evangelistic Association, 1997). In 1966 Woodrow wrote Babylon Mystery Religion Ancient and Modern (Riverside, Calif.: Ralph Woodrow Evangelistic Association, 1966), a reworking of Hislop's book. After some time passed, Woodrow did further study and saw that Hislop's book was seriously flawed and historically untenable. "As I [studied]," Woodrow admits, "it became clear—Hislop's 'history' was often only mythology. Even though myths may sometimes reflect events that actually happened, an arbitrary piecing together of ancient myths can not provide a sound basis for history. Take enough tribes, enough tales, enough time, jump from one time to another, from one country to another, pick and choose similarities—why anything could be 'proved'!" (from www.amazon.com). Woodrow then wrote The Babylon Connection? and admitted the errors of his first book. For a Catholic critique of both Hislop and Woodrow see Karl Keating, Catholicism and Fundamentalism (San Francisco: Ignatius Press, 1988), pp. 68–69, 159–63, 219–24."
4. Less significant coverage:
  1. Price, Robert M. (2007). The Paperback Apocalypse: How the Christian Church Was Left Behind. Amherst, New York: Prometheus Books. p. 281. ISBN 978-1-59102-583-2. Retrieved 2024-06-06 – via Internet Archive.
    The book provides one sentence of coverage about the subject. The book notes: "More than likely, Jenkins got the name from the title of an old, rabidly anti-Catholic book, Ralph Woodrow's Babylon Mystery Religion (1966)."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Babylon Mystery Religion to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
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Keep: per Cunard's sources. PARAKANYAA (talk) 12:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per Cunard. Sufficient coverage to meet WP:NBOOK. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 14:58, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Owen× ☎ 12:37, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ceyhun Osmanli

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Being an Azerbaijani Deputy does not make a person encyclopedic. Not according to the criteria. --Correspondentman (talk) 11:11, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep yes it does. Members of national parliaments are notable under WP:NPOL. Mccapra (talk) 11:53, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Clearly meets WP:NPOL as an Azeri MP. I have to question if the nominator even read the guideline they are presumably citing. Curbon7 (talk) 20:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see they are a sockpuppet. Why they haven't been blocked is a question of endless bureaucracy. Curbon7 (talk) 23:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep Per WP:SKCRIT #2 and #3. An "obviously frivolous or vexatious nomination" and a nomination which is "completely erroneous. No accurate deletion rationale has been provided." AusLondonder (talk) 17:38, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 11:23, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yalta (nightclub)

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Delete Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:ORGSIG. The sources are almost entirely from DJ Mag which is a single source. Wikilover3509 (talk) 7:56, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

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Delete - Per nominator

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Delete: per nom. B3251_(talk) 17:16, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 11:24, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sakib Salajin

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Article does not meet notability guidelines of WP:POLITICIAN TheNuggeteer (talk) 07:36, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete not seeing a GNG pass here either. Mccapra (talk) 11:55, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete doesn't pass WP:POLITICIAN. --Lenticel ^(talk) 02:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Greensill Capital#Insolvency. Malinaccier (talk) 14:19, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taulia

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Fails to meet NCORP; not sufficient independent media coverage; routine Run-of-the-mill announcements. BoraVoro (talk) 07:37, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~:Delete per WP:NCORP 104.7.152.180 (talk) 13:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)~~[reply]

Comment: An IP that added "Delete per WP:NCORP" to 3 AFDs in 2 minutes. I think the chance that the closing admin places weight on these posts is approximately zero. Geschichte (talk) 16:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Striking, as this is block evasion. jp×g 🗯️ 01:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Greensill Capital#Insolvency where it is discussed. Alternatively there is List of mergers and acquisitions by SAP. – Teratix ₵ 13:27, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to Matt Fellowes. Malinaccier (talk) 14:15, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

United Income

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Unlikely to meet WP:NCORP due to insufficient sourcing BoraVoro (talk) 07:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to Matt Fellowes: There is quite an important thing to keep about this company and I will say we merge and redirect it to the founder Matt Fellowes. The career section or being a new section is good to go. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 07:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 11:25, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SUPERM

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Notability concerns; no reliable sources; possible original research BoraVoro (talk) 07:14, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Withdrawn by nom - will work on the article. (non-admin closure) Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (^{talk to me!}/_{my edits}) 05:40, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nationalism in Trinidad and Tobago

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Nationalism in Trinidad and Tobago may well be a thing, but I struggle to see where this article even addresses it. It is written like an essay and attempts to divine nationalism from an arbitrary selection of social and cultural issues, apparently with mostly irrelevant sourcing. For example source [3] is attached to the claim that calypso music is a form of Trinbagonian nationalism... the source, besides not really being an RS, says nothing of the sort. The dispute with Barbados should more properly be in Barbados-Trinidad and Tobago relations and the entire "Evolution" section, besides mostly being SYNTH, has content that should really be in LGBT rights in Trinidad and Tobago.

There is no RS that unifies these disparate topics - Trinbagonian culture, the dispute with Barbados, and LGBT rights - into a single topic about nationalism in the country. Thus, in my view, the article should be deleted. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (^{talk to me!}/_{my edits}) 06:46, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep and stubify - It's pretty clear to me that the existence of books like https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Race_and_Nationalism_in_Trinidad_and_Tob.html?id=z2sKAQAAIAAJ&redir_esc=y (and plenty of other coverage I could find trivial) make this a notable subject. That said, the nom's critiques of the article are legitimate, it is certainly not acceptable to cite a stats database and from it draw conclusions about opportunity. There's a strong case to WP:TNT almost everything that's there at the moment. BrigadierG (talk) 08:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decisive keep - "Trinibagonian nationalism" obviously passes GNG from the first page of google results^[1]^[2]^[3] and would likely have even more material across WPLibrary or other databases, nomination fails BEFORE and NOTCLEANUP. Even stubification seems extreme, the bit on the history of the country could easily stay if its just renamed to "Background" or something of the sort; Seeking independence from another country is going to involve some amount of nationalistic thinking no matter what, that just falls under SKYISBLUE. Orchastrattor (talk) 20:28, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The history bit should only be retained if RSes talking about Trinbagonian nationalism in its history are added to the article. We have the Culture of Trinidad and Tobago and History of Trinidad and Tobago already. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (^{talk to me!}/_{my edits}) 01:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If the existence of the subject can already be established through RS then whether an additional source specifically refers to the subject by name or not becomes a question of due weight, not verification. The point of a background section is to summarize plainly relevant information from parent topics, why shouldn't such information be present across multiple articles if it is relevant to all of them? Orchastrattor (talk) 18:12, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

Keep clearly a notable topic based on the sources and books in the article. The problems raised by the nominator can be addressed through editing. SportingFlyer T·C 17:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Withdrawn by nominator. Thank you both for your input. JFHJr (㊟) 04:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC) (non-admin closure) JFHJr (㊟) 04:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Victoria Curzon-Price

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This subject fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO because the WP:LOTSOFSOURCES are all primary, including biographies and the like by related parties. No particular claim to notability is textually clear. Her one-year tenure in an apparently quickly cycling sub-national (canton) government body doesn't add anything to make this subject notable. Other than the Mont Pelerin Society which she led for a while, none of her other orgs are actually notable; see their AfD discussions. Cheers! JFHJr (㊟) 03:56, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep.Being elected to the Swiss equivalent of a state parliament makes her automatically notable. Many references at this Google Scholar search: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=Victoria+Curzon-Price&btnG= Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Very decent GS record passes WP:Prof and WP:Politician is passed as the legendary DGG said in the first AfD. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:33, 5 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to The Sarah Jane Adventures. While arguments for deletion are weak, the rough consensus is that the content is better suited for the target article than for a standalone page. Owen× ☎ 16:57, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of The Sarah Jane Adventures minor characters

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Fails WP:NLIST. Adding together many non-notable topics still gives you a non-notable topic. Some character articles like Sarah Jane Smith are notable but does not support having a list about every character in the series, which do not have significant coverage as required by WP:N. Jontesta (talk) 03:11, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep character lists' topic is the fictional element (The Sarah Jane Adventures), and are roundly considered to meet CSC #2. That is, no policy-based reason for deletion has been articulated. Jclemens (talk) 03:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment Impossible Worlds, Impossible Things: Cultural Perspectives on Doctor Who, Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures has commentary on the characters in the series, starting from Sarah Jane, but also about the other characters as a group. Daranios (talk) 14:47, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to The Sarah Jane Adventures. The problem here is less notability, but more size. The list can likely have the bulk of its content merged into the cast list already in the article given the bulk of characters here are at least decently recurring. This feels like it was dropped partway through, since the only characters beyond the significant recurring characters are minor characters from the first episode exclusively. If this does survive, it needs a major TNT/overhaul, but personally I don't see a reason for this to exist just based off of size reasons. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:59, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and possibly rename, or merge to The Sarah Jane Adventures. I am not convinced the split into cast and minor characters is beneficial. So I could imagine keeping and renaming this into List of The Sarah Jane Adventures characters, and include brief descriptions and links to the cast characters, most of whom have their own articles. Seems helpful to me for navigation. With regard to notability, as mentioned above, I question if it makes any sense to try to divorce conventional fiction works from the characters. What would they be without the characters? Of course there still needs to be enough material in secondary sources to write anything. Still, if one wanted to ask for secondary sources specifically discussing the characters of The Sarah Jane Adventures, Dancing with the Doctor discusses them at various places, as does the book mentioned above and others. So even if one wanted to ask for notability of characters as opposed to the series as such, that would still be fullfilled. All that said, I don't have an overview how much the secondary sources in total have to say on characters other than the main cast (and how incomplete the current list is with regards to what Pokelego999 mentioned), so I cannot say if a stand-alone article or a merge would be best in the long run, based on WP:PAGEDECIDE rather than notability. Daranios (talk) 10:11, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect or merge to The Sarah Jane Adventures per WP:ATD. I only find WP:SIGCOV for characters who already have articles. The minor characters don't have much coverage, but are summed up nicely at the main article. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment If asked to decide I would prefer keeping to merging. Hopefully there will be more input. Daranios (talk) 10:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Best belong to Fandom, don't anybody think? (Nothing wrong with it though, I frequent visit that site) Serves to nobody but to the most ardent fans. SpacedFarmer (talk) 23:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:WHOCARES is not a valid argument. (and there is an awful lot wrong with fandom) --TheImaCow (talk) 17:45, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm trying to point out that a list of this is useful for Fandom. Still, whats makes a list of minor characters worthy of a standalone list when most lists of characters are about characters with significant roles, hence my point. SpacedFarmer (talk) 13:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One of the WP:Common selection criteria for lists is that all the listed items are non-notable. See, e.g., List of minor characters in the Alice series. Other lists, such as List of generation I Pokémon, mix notable and non-notable characters. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I reiterate my stance that this should be kept as the best place to cover characters that are individually non-notable. I have seen no compelling reason why this list of elements of an undisputedly notable show should be redirected or deleted. No objection to combining with other character articles (or abstracting from them) to form a more traditional List of The Sarah Jane Adventures characters per WP:SS. Jclemens (talk) 01:37, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect No indication that people have discussed the characters of this show as a group, and we should not have a list of specifically minor characters for any show. Just because we can have a character list does not mean we should. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:05, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Malinaccier (talk) 14:09, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jeffrey Waldron

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Fails WP:FILMMAKER. The majority of sources either aren't independent or provide only a passing mention. I found two sources that may contribute to notability ([29][30]). I am not 100% sure about the reliability of the latter source. GMH Melbourne (talk) 03:22, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I think his work on Dear White People alone meets WP:FILMMAKER, his contributions are mentioned in independent reviews [31][32]. While these [33][34] might count as promo, they discuss his work in some depth. Orange sticker (talk) 08:25, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The Variety piece is more of an interview with the subject than an article about him. Rest is rather non-helpful for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 13:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep: Not only Dear White People, the four films under his belt are all notable and significant productions, and for each one I found RS that provide reviews or even interviews with him. For instance, there are Variety[35] and Screen Daily[36] reviews for The Dynamiter, Washington Post,[37] and The Hollywood Reporter[38] reviews for You Hurt My Feelings, an interview with Variety[39] and a review from New York Times[40] on his participation in Transpecos, and multiple interviews with Screen Rant,[41] Comic Book Resources,[42] and NPR Illinois [43] on the Disney film Haunted Mansion. He was also nominated for numerous awards, including an Emmy and an Independent Spirit Award. These clearly fulfill WP:FILMMAKER#3 (subject person playing a major role in co-creating a significant work) and #4 (subject person winning critical attention for their works). Passing not only one but two criteria of NBLP is quite an obvious keep. @Oaktree b: Please take a look at the sources and rationales I presented. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 16:08, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, criterion #3 of FILMMAKER has clearly been met. After sorting through the veritable refbombing above, there's even some GNG-level sourcing like this and maybe this, but I'm not sure he would meet the GNG outright. Toadspike [Talk] 06:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable software. A PROD was removed in 2012. SL93 (talk) 02:53, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The article author responded to the 2012 PROD by adding 2 online reviews, which we can see now thanks to the Wayback Machine. Both the LAFCPUG (Feb 2005) and Luminous Landscape (Sept 2005) items are informed 3rd party reviews, which might contribute to notability under the WP:NSOFT essay's criterion 3. However I don't think either these or anything else now retrievable is sufficient to demonstrate that this was more than one among several such products. AllyD (talk) 14:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I'm not impressed by the "reviews", also briefly mentioned here [44] and [45], but nothing extensive. Oaktree b (talk) 13:29, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:00, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Vietnam representatives at international male beauty pageants

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Irrelevant and random list of pageant contestants has stood unreferenced for going on a decade. (Last referenced version was November 2015). Better to start over, if someone cares to. ☆ Bri (talk) 02:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete there have been recent updates, but unsourced updates about competitions such as Mister Tourism World (which are redlinks) do not engender confidence. Due to the potential of WP:BLP violations, this should be blown up per nom. Walsh90210 (talk) 03:11, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Mccapra (talk) 06:14, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure)‎ LibStar (talk) 16:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Evelyn Patuawa-Nathan

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Fails WP:AUTHOR and WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 03:08, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Patuawa-Nathan and her work have been the subject of PhD research: report here and doctoral thesis available here. Paora (talk) 05:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep She is a recognized indigenous poet who is widely cited by her peers and in a range of media. The article is poor in content and needs significant work. NealeWellington (talk) 09:03, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I've added her to my list to do some work on her article as it's certainly in poor shape. An initial Google Books search suggests there is coverage of her in some works, including Once Were Pacific: Māori Connections to Oceania by Alice Te Punga Somerville. Te Punga Somerville also talks about her in this 2010 radio New Zealand interview and this article. She also appears to have featured in at least a couple of anthologies including Puna Wai Korero: An Anthology of Maori Poetry in English (2014, edited by Robert Sullivan and Reina Whaitiri). Separately, it looks like she features in Wild Honey: Reading New Zealand Women's Poetry by Paula Green and Māori Women: An Annotated Bibliography (1991). Would need to do more digging to check these sources, but I think there's enough here to establish notability. Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 10:04, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notable poet whose work has been covered in academic journals and books. Yes, the article needs work but that's not a reason to delete.--SouthernNights (talk) 14:08, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 01:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG; most sources are from the FCC. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 01:37, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Liam Carberry

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Poorly sourced rugby BLP. All I found were transactional announcements (1, 2). Possible redirect targets include List of Widnes Vikings players and List of Wigan Warriors players. JTtheOG (talk) 02:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete brief career, only brief mentions in the press and a short interview here, not enough to fulfill WP:NSPORT. Broc (talk) 11:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not enough sources. Mn1548 (talk) 16:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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[Auckland_War-1] "Rutland Group, September 1946". Auckland War Memorial Museum. Retrieved 7 June 2024.

[NZ_Herald2-2] "Rutland times revisited - Lifestyle News". NZ Herald. 7 June 2024. Retrieved 7 June 2024.

[NZ_Herald-3] "Art sleuths revive Rutland - Lifestyle News". NZ Herald. 7 June 2024. Retrieved 7 June 2024.

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