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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. and rename Black Kite (talk) 00:18, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- List of Startling by Each Step episodes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
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I've added the proposed delete template on List of Startling by Each Step episodes because of the following concerns: "Believed to be unnecessary due to each episode's summary lack relevants, listed under Singapore's airdates instead of its original from Mainland China, incomplete, spoilers, lacking activities, sloppiness, and does not cite any reference. Unless improvements are made, I am standing the proposal of deletion of the article. --NeoBatfreak (talk) 20:30, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 21:40, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 21:40, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- 'Merge and redirect. Concerns about air-dates is not a reason to delete...easy enough to change to those of country of origin (or add if the Singapore broadcasts are somehow important too). Concerns about sloppiness is never a reason to do delete...fix it or tag it. WP:SPOILER is never a reason to do anything. Episode-lists are common for many series, and putting them in a separate article is a standard way to avoid cluttering up a long article about the series itself. Which leaves us with general notability (WP:UNDUE, fancruft, or excessive/unencyclopediac detail...WP is not TV Guide) and lack of citations. The series article (Startling by Each Step) seems to have excessive plot-summary and other details (cf. WP:PLOT, I've tagged that article accordingly)--it's a series based on a book, so I assume the substantial plot is the book's topic--so I'd support redirecting back to the parent and putting a brief summary of how the series follows the plot of the book (again, don't duplicate book details). DMacks (talk) 22:10, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Shotgun nomination manages to hit one actual deletion reason amongst the several listed. As is, the nominator admits that it aired in two national television networks, which means that the lack of sourcing should be easily remedyable. Jclemens (talk) 03:00, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- This list is practically like written by a five year old, even though I know it is written by a Chinese audieance of the show who lacked the profieciency of English grammar, writing, and spelling.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 03:44, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Wikipedia isn't a place for excessively detailed plots of television series. The plot section of the main article needs to be trimmed down as well. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日) contact me (聯絡) 16:35, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bryce (talk | contribs) 05:00, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 05:13, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep AFD is not for cleanup.--Milowent • hasspoken 06:05, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note that my and Lonelydarksky's comments aren't that this article needs to be cleaned up (salvageable topic or viable article if rewritten), but merely also noting that the merge or more-appropriate-home target of the content also may need attention. DMacks (talk) 06:11, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2012 February 16. Snotbot t • c » 23:32, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I still say delete. Whoever writing the synopsis is giving away excessive details, and writes like five years old. --NeoBatfreak (talk) 03:56, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment NeoBatfreak (talk · contribs) has renamed this Afd page after Fabnerwen (talk · contribs) tried to rename the article using DISPLAYTITLE. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:42, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Meets WP:N and WP:LIST, hopefully provides a vehicle for reducing the excessive detail in the parent article. However, I am left trying to figure out why the name in the list is one way and the parent article is another? Why is this not List of Scarlet Heart episodes? --Tgeairn (talk) 18:06, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:25, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and move to List of Scarlet Heart episodes leaving redirect behind. As pointed out above, this meets N and LIST, but still needs IRS. I suspect the synopsis writer is either a younger editor or a primary speaker of a language other than English (possibly both), but neither issues disqualifies the writer from contributing. BusterD (talk) 14:15, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- In respect to the people who originally aired the episodes, I believe that airdate should be changed to its original from mainland China. Because, each region has different airdates. The orginator of the article obviously stick with where he or she comes from, but US airs the show two months before Singapore.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 19:51, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.