Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beijing Arbitration Commission

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:17, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Beijing Arbitration Commission

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Tagged for notability since 2010. Large number of non-IS sources. WP:TNT candidate, though likely fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:29, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Law, Organizations, and China. UtherSRG (talk) 15:29, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

  Speedy Keep No valid rationale for deletion. The existence of primary sources is not grounds for deletion. Nor is an old notability tag. Nor is the absence of cites where sources exist.

  The nominator doesn't even claim that it fails GNG (should probably be WP:NORG) but a quick bit of research shows many sources exist which are entirely about the BAC or its rules. The article currently cites 3 journal articles entirely devoted to the BAC. Here are two more, again, entirely about the BAC:

  • Wang, H. (2011). The Successful Practice of the Concepts and Principles of Modern Commercial Arbitration in China-Take the Amendments of Arbitration Rules of Beijing Arbitration Commission for Example. Transnational Dispute Management (TDM), 8(1).
  • Song Lianbin, Strides towards arbitral justice: a comment on the 2004 arbitration rules of the Beijing Arbitration Commission, Journal of international arbitration, 2004, Vol.21 (5), p.473 (note that Song is a law professor; he's on the arbitrator list of BAC and many other arbitration institutions, but that doesn't make him an employee).

  There are over 600 hits for "Beijing Arbitration Commission" on Google Scholar alone. I suggest a proper WP:BEFORE search would have prevented the nomination of this article about a well-known arbitral institution. Oblivy (talk) 05:43, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

  Comment: The notability tag was added by an IP editor[1] with just 16 edits (stopped editing after 20) just after the article was created when it only had 3 cites. I removed it - if the article is kept, that would suggest this tag isn't warranted. Oblivy (talk) 09:50, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

• Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
  1. Chen, Fuyong (January 2009). "Striving for Independence, Competence, and Fairness: A Case Study of the Beijing Arbitration Commission". American Review of International Arbitration. 18 (3). Retrieved 2023-08-27.
  2. Wang, Hongsong (2011). "The Successful Practice of the Concepts and Principles of Modern Commercial Arbitration in China - Take the Amendments of Arbitration Rules of Beijing Arbitration Commission for Example". Transnational Dispute Management. Retrieved 2023-08-27.
  3. Liu, Jian; Zhang, Yulin (2004). "Asian Dispute Review". Asian Dispute Review. 6 (2). Retrieved 2023-08-27 – via Kluwer Law International.
  4. Song, Lianbin 宋连斌 (2006). "中国仲裁的国际化、本土化与民间化——基于2004年《北京仲裁委员会仲裁规则》的个案研究" [The Internationalization, Localization and Civilization of Chinese Arbitration——A Case Study Based on the 2004 "Beijing Arbitration Commission Arbitration Rules"]. 暨南学报：哲学社会科学版 [Jinan Journal (Philosophy & Social Science Edition)] (in Chinese). No. 5. Retrieved 2023-08-27 – via CQVIP.
  5. Guo, Xiaowen 郭晓文 (2001). "体现仲裁的效率原则一现代仲裁规则的重要特点——兼谈北京仲裁委员会2001年仲裁规则" [Embodying the Efficiency Principle of Arbitration—an Important Feature of Modern Arbitration Rules——Also Talking about the Arbitration Rules of Beijing Arbitration Commission in 2001]. 仲裁与法律 [Arbitration and Law] (in Chinese) (6). Retrieved 2023-08-27 – via CQVIP.
  6. Song, Lianbin 宋连斌 (2004). "迈向仲裁正义——2004年《北京仲裁委员会仲裁规则》评介" [Towards Arbitration Justice——Comment on the 2004 "Beijing Arbitration Commission Arbitration Rules"]. 中国工程咨询 [Chinese Consulting Engineers] (in Chinese) (6). Translated by Wang, Qianlin. Retrieved 2023-08-27 – via CQVIP.
  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow the Beijing Arbitration Commission (simplified Chinese: 北京仲裁委员会; traditional Chinese: 北京仲裁委員會) to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".

  Cunard (talk) 10:32, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

• Keep, obviously notable, and I don't see the TNT argument. But I'd advise the closing admin to check this article against the About pages on the website (https://www.bjac.org.cn/english/index.jsp) to see if anything is directly copied. It's not loading properly for me right now, so I can't. -- asilvering (talk) 21:40, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

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