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November 10, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – Animatronics → Animatronic – WP:PLURAL, not much more to say. Orchastrattor (talk) 22:46, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gerim (Jewish religious category) → Gerim – Remove unnecessary parentheses/disambiguator Gjs238 (talk) 22:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Clarissa → Clarissa (1748) – While the novel may be important, it cannot be considered as the primary topic for the name "Clarissa". While there may be an argument for re-assigning the primary topic to Clarissa (given name), the best result would be to use the title for a disambiguation page as is presently the norm for other given names such as Frank, Louis, or Sandra. Loopy30 (talk) 22:35, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Martin Wainwright → Martin Wainwright (journalist) – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (i.e., no primary topic). I created the article Martin Wainwright (statistician) early last month and already had a suspicion at the time that there may not be a primary topic between the two, but I thought I'd wait a month to have a full month of page views for the move request. I believe the page views of the last 30 days support this (see 30 day page views for both; side note: I only visited the page I created when I edited it, which was only on October 23 in that time frame, the slight spike on that date may be ignored). While the journalist (and author) has considerably more mentions in books, the statistician has a similar advantage when it comes to scholarly articles. Following a move, Martin Wainwright would become a disambiguation page. Felida97 (talk) 22:33, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lazy cisticola → Rock-loving cisticola – This is the new name adopted by version 14.2 of the IOC bird list. Background: On Wikipedia we create an article for each species of bird. English Wikipedia follows the online list of world birds maintained by Frank Gill, Pamela C. Rasmussen and David Donsker on behalf of the International Ornithological Committee (IOC) which is available here. In August 2024 version 14.2 was released. This included many changes which are part of an effort to align the taxonomy of the three major world lists: IOC, Clements/eBird and Birdlife/IUCN. In the previous release (IOC 14.1) the Lazy cistocola (Cisticola aberrans) included 4 subspecies: nyika, lurio, aberrans and minor. The Rock-loving cisticola (Cisticola emini) also included 4 subspecies: admiralis, petrophilus, emini and bailunduensis The present release (IOC 14.2) lumps the Lazy cistocola with the Rock-loving cisticola and at the same time splits off the subspecies bailunduensis to create a new species, the Huambo cisticola (Cisticola bailunduensis). When making the lump, the IOC chose to use the "more informative" name "Rock-loving cisticola" for the combined species rather than retaining the name Lazy cistocola. The October 2024 update of the Clements/eBird list includes similar changes to the taxonomy: see here Wikipedia didn't have an article for the Rock-loving cisticola - instead there was a redirect. I intend to create an article for the Huambo cisticola. Aa77zz (talk) 22:16, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Economic policy of the Joe Biden administration → Bidenomics – WP:Commonname. The Atlantic, The New Republic, The Telegraph, The New Yorker, The Guardian, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Foreign Policy, The Heritage Foundation, Bloomberg, Politico Theparties (talk) 21:57, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Heaven Is for Real → Heaven Is for Real (book) – There is no WP:primarytopic because of the film. Heaven Is for Real needs to be a disambiguation page. Theparties (talk) 21:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ian James Lee → Ian Lee (journalist) – WP:Commonname. He doesn't use James as a name. Theparties (talk) 21:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Right to family life → Family rights – More common in literature. Most other human rights titles are formatted as *beneficiary* rights. HudecEmil (talk) 21:11, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of typhoons in Guam → List of typhoons in the Marianas Islands – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dyffryn Ogwen → Ogwen Valley – WP:COMMONNAME, appears Ogwen Valley is used more in English over the Welsh version "Dyffryn Ogwen". Ngrams shows Ogwen Valley is the more common form, while I find more sources using it too. Furthermore, some using "Dyffryn Ogwen" specify an area rather than a valley (the subject here), unless it should be like Nantlle Valley, described as an area. General results lean 75k OV vs 30k DO, and on Google News 115 OV vs 15 DO. OV (15) – National Trust, local mountain rescue, Daily Post[1], BBC[2], The Telegraph, Liverpool Echo([3])[4], BMC, NYPost, NZHerald, Gloucestershire Live, Manchester EN, WalesOnline[5], ITV, Welsh Gov News, Sky. Currently the national park uses just "Ogwen valley".[6] DO (7) – local enterprise, Cambrian News; area–; Daily Post, BBC[7], North Wales Chronicle, Herald.Wales, Council Mixed – community website (uses DO in website name, but OV in English text) The sole (external) link on the article is from an organisation using "Ogwen Valley". Diolch DankJae 21:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Alejandro Villanueva → Alejandro Villanueva (footballer) – Per the criteria WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Criteria 1 (Usage): The American football player has many more page views than the footballer (daily average of 271 vs 14 over the last 365 days; this is not an instance of a current player getting extra page views as the American football player retired 3 years ago), the American football player has many more results on Google, books, news, images, refs. Criteria 2 (long-term significance): The American football player was a U.S. Army captain, earned a Bronze Star, started more than 100 NFL games, was selected to 2 Pro Bowls, and played a notable role in the U.S. national anthem kneeling protests that garned significant coverage WP:GNG If there is a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, it is the American football player; however I would argue that at the very least there is no primary topic Joeykai (talk) 23:07, 24 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 21:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Leni → Leni (municipality) – There needs to be a disambiguation named Leni because of the prominence of the Leni (name) such as Leni Riefenstahl. Theparties (talk) 20:45, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gapo → Gapo (social networking service) – The word Gapo needs to be a disambiguation because of the article GAPO syndrome. Theparties (talk) 20:42, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Minari (film) → Minari – WP:Primarytopic due to page views. [8], [9], [10], [11]. The plant doesn't even have the word "minari" as one of its alternate names. Theparties (talk) 20:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Minari → Minari (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Robert Miller (businessman) → Robert Miller (Canadian businessman) – Resolve another hairy partial disambiguation mess. # Robert Miller (businessman) could apply to anyone at Robert Miller#Business # Robert Miller (composer) could also apply to Bob Miller (composer, born 1895) - I'm drawing a blank on any way of disambiguating him, though. # Robert Miller (American football) could also apply to Bob Miller (American football) maybe that article should be moved to Bob Miller (tackle) as well. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:50, 2 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 19:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tatar (disambiguation) → Tatar – This adjective currently redirects to the plural meaning a people, but there's also the language, and it's common to see such adjectives disambiguated. From the topic area, vaguely similar examples may include Turkic, where readers proceed to both the languages and the peoples; Turkish, most people proceed to language; Kipchak, readers visit people but also language and another major topic. Page history for the redirect that would need to be replaced here indicates this was last attempted in 2017, and last discussed in 2005. There was a recent discussion at Talk:Tatar language (disambiguation) where there was no opposition to this idea, at the same time, it wasn't the primary focus there, and this requires disambiguating over 700 links, so it merits a discussion of its own. --Joy (talk) 18:00, 3 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 18:37, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jack Miller (athlete) → Jack Miller (high jumper) – per WP:NCSP Joeykai (talk) 18:26, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tomás Mejía Camacho → Tomás Mejía – As recognized in the article's lead, Tomás Mejía is the WP:COMMONNAME, which is substantiated ([12][13]/[14][15]/[16][17]). XxTechnicianxX (talk) 18:25, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ultramagnetic MCs → Ultramagnetic MC's – The group's name is spelled/rendered with an apostrophe on every single one of their releases. See Discogs. -- Forty.4 (talk) 17:26, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tule Lake National Monument → Tule Lake concentration camp – It is unclear to me why this page is called "Tule Lake National Monument." It’s primarily about the concentration camp/war relocation center, and only a single, relatively small section is dedicated to its designation as a monument. It’s not just a euphemistic designation, it’s straight-up confusing. When I was searching for this page I had to check repeatedly that I was in the right place. It’s like if we called the main Auschwitz concentration camp article "Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum." As for what it should be called, I think that there are advantages and disadvantages to "Tule Lake War Relocation Center," "Tule Lake concentration camp," and "Tule Lake internment camp." Google Ngram Viewer shows no results at all for "Tule Lake National Monument," but does show results for all three of these terms. "Tule Lake War Relocation Center" fits with the formats used for most of the other camps (Gila River, Granada, Heart Mountain, Jerome, Poston, Rohwer, Topaz), but may be a bit euphemistic and doesn’t necessarily cover other names for the camp ("Tule Lake Segregation Center") and other areas on site that weren’t specifically in the relocation center (such as Camp Tulelake, an isolation facility within the overall camp structure). Perhaps using "War Relocation Center" to disambiguate between the overall camp and the isolation facility would be advantageous, though. "Tule Lake War Relocation Center" is also the most common result on Google Ngram Viewer. "Tule Lake concentration camp" may be a bit controversial, but "concentration camp" is the terminology used by Densho, which is generally considered an authority on this subject. It is the terminology recommended by the Manzanar committee, whose recommendations were adopted by the JACL (Japanese American Citizens League) in 2013. It’s also the terminology used on the FA-rated Manzanar page and would cover other names for the camp/relocation center and areas of the site that weren’t strictly within the relocation center. It is, however, the least common result on Google Ngram Viewer. "Tule Lake internment camp" would also cover other names for/sections of the camp and is a commonly used term, possibly more diplomatic than concentration camp but also more euphemistic. I don’t know that diplomacy is more important than precision/accuracy when covering a human rights violation, but still, it’s better than "National Monument" on both counts. In terms of the Ngram Viewer, it is between "Tule Lake War Relocation Center" and "Tule Lake concentration camp" in its usage. I personally favor “Tule Lake concentration camp,” so that’s the name I put in on the request, but am open to any of the three pending feedback. What do folks think? Spookyaki (talk) 16:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vitalstatistix → Vitalstatistix (disambiguation) – Primary redirect (with possibilities) to a section (List of Asterix characters#Vitalstatistix), that section being about 2000 words long and well referenced. The character is the primary topic by both usage and long-term significance over the only other meaning, a women's theatre company based in Port Adelaide, South Australia which has a great deal of web presence but this is understandable given their advocacy activities. Andrewa (talk) 03:00, 3 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. charlotte 👸♥ 15:16, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – RSM-56 Bulava → ? – The new user Vlad97531 (talk · contribs) attempted a cut-and-paste move to R-30 Bulava in order "to conform with common designations of other Russian SLBMs". Then they brought it to WP:RMTR, which was contested. From RMTR –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 09:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. charlotte 👸♥ 15:13, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Five Pieces for Orchestra → Five Pieces for Orchestra (Schoenberg) – There is Five Pieces for Orchestra (Webern) (currently lacking an article), which is also a famous work with the same title. People who know one are likely to know the other so it is not obvious that one is the primary topic. Stockhausenfan (talk) 05:19, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Terrifier (film series) → Terrifier (franchise) – Can the page be Terrifier (franchise) again, as it now has comics, books, and games? 201.92.21.175 (talk) 00:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 05:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Michael Cohen (writer) → Michael Cohen (Australian writer) – To avoid PDAB issues versus Michael H. Cohen and others - "writer" is a very broad term. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:22, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 05:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Turkish Women's Football Super League → Süper Lig (women) – See my rm above. Regarding this name, the word "football" is redundant in this context, because this was added to separate it from the Women's Basketball Super League, this makes it
Kadın Süper Ligi
in Turkish, which basically means 'women's super league', thus Süper Lig (women) seems the most logical and consistent with the men version. Beshogur (talk) 17:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 15:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 05:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bedroom Farce (play) → Bedroom Farce – unnecessary disambiguation Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 19:08, 27 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 12:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 05:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Bedroom Farce → Bedroom Farce (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Zeh → Zeh, Nakhlestan – This village in Iran is not the primary topic. Many villages in Iran have a name some variation of Zeh [18] and it carries a hatnote for a city in Iran, Zeh-e Kalut. There are non-Iranian topics as well, such as the German surname Zeh (surname). So make the disambiguation page the primary landing spot -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 601-603 High Street → 601–603 High Street – If I understand correctly, these are ranges of street addresses. Per MOS:NUMRANGE, ranges of numbers should be expressed with an en dash, not a hyphen. I confirmed that the NHRP uses "--" when describing the last two, which is equivalent to using an en dash. The 900-910 North Lake Shore article and some off-Wikipedia sources use "900 910" and "900/910", and the buildings' branding seems to use "900/910", and that topic is a pair of buildings, and units within each building are referred to with street addresses of 900 for one building and 910 for the other, so perhaps it should be "900 and 910". I would just perform these moves boldly, but I wonder whether someone might disagree with this interpretation or suggest alternative titles. For example, two cited sources ([19] and [20]) refer to the first topic simply as 601 High Street; it is a single building. — BarrelProof (talk) 16:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Sennecaster (Chat) 01:42, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wade Wilson → Wade Wilson (disambiguation) – Deadpool is the primary topic. See pageviews, and consider the long-term significance. InfiniteNexus (talk) 00:30, 3 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 01:30, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
November 9, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – John Walmsley → John Walmsley (footballer) – Dubious primary topic claim. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:49, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lupin the 3rd Part V: Misadventures in France → Lupin the 3rd Part 5 – Official English title, per TMS' global website. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 22:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – November 2024 Amsterdam attacks → 2024 Amsterdam football riot – There is no single WP:COMMONNAME, so we must rely on WP:NDESC. "Riot" is most WP:CONSISTENT with most articles at Category:Association football hooliganism (1999 Rotterdam riots, 2008 UEFA Cup final riots, Querétaro–Atlas riot etc). "Riot" also more inclusively captures property damage and other acts of hooliganism that took place, which can't be described as "attacks". The word "football" or "soccer" in the title is necessary as that is the most recognizable aspect of this event. All the clashes centered around the football fans. "November" is unnecessarily WP:OVERPRECISE. VR (Please ping on reply) 21:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Family of Elon Musk → Musk family – Although Elon Musk is the most notable member of the family, several of the family members are independently notable. PhotographyEdits (talk) 21:28, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Constance, Queen of Sicily → Constance I of Sicily – It appears that Constance II was a reigning queen of Sicily, as she was succeeded by her sons James and Frederick. Векочел (talk) 23:59, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. charlotte 👸♥ 21:24, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bhajan Lal Bishnoi → Bhajan Lal – As per all the available sources in the article, his full name is "Bhajan Lal" instead of "Bhajan Lal Bishnoi". According to his election affidavit too (https://www (dot) google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://docs.myneta.info/affidavits/hr2005/704/BHAJAN%2520LAL.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjw-LyAmb6JAxVsUGwGHfp9BxUQFnoECBUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0EA-rD9PyrxBewduu7tr-S), his full name is "Bhajan Lal". Dympies (talk) 17:37, 2 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. charlotte 👸♥ 21:03, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Bhajan Lal → Bhajan Lal (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes → Killing of Jean Charles de Menezes – Per WP:Deaths. I am aware this was previously proposed in 2021, however, this was before WP:Deaths was properly a thing. Also, one of the main defense's of the proposal not going ahead at the time was because similar articles used "Shooting of". However, a number of these examples have since been changed to "Killing of". Such as, Killing of Mark Duggan, Killing of Azelle Rodney, and Killing of Yassar Yaqub. Inexpiable (talk) 20:00, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death of Blair Peach → Killing of of Blair Peach – Per WP:DEATHS, Peach's death was a killing, as described by sources. मल्ल (talk) 19:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death of Kaja Ballo → Suicide of Kaja Ballo – Per WP:DEATHS: Ballo's death was a suicide, as described by sources. मल्ल (talk) 19:30, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – John Allen Chau → Killing of John Allen Chau – Per WP:BIO1E and WP:DEATHS, Chau is primarily known for his killing. मल्ल (talk) 19:28, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Loudoun County in the American Civil War → Loudoun County, Virginia, in the American Civil War – Per WP:USPLACE, MOS:GEOCOMMA, and WP:PRECISE This article is about Loudoun County, Virginia so we should follow that naming format and a comma should go after the state name, both per clear naming conventions. Also, Loudon County, Tennessee saw at least some action in the Civil War so the title is ambiguous. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mahbubur Rahman (politician) → Mahbubur Rahman (politician, born 1940) – Resolve partial disamiguation tangle. Mahbubur Rahman (umpire) could also reasonable be called a cricketer. Disambiguating by the presence or spelling of "Md." versus "Muhammad" is wrong since that's just an honorific, not part of the name. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:47, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Penn-Can Mall → Driver's Village – Historical mall articles usually take the current name if there is currently another business in the building. For instance, NetPark Tampa Bay not East Lake Square Mall, Wonderland Village not Wonderland Mall, et al. The only exceptions seem to be if the property is demolished or abandoned, such as Forest Fair Mall. As Driver's Village is the current name of the mall's former occupant, I think the precedent of NetPark Tampa Bay should be applied here. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – There's a Wocket in My Pocket → There's a Wocket in My Pocket! – Book jacket shows an exclamation point in the title, and more sources than not seem to support the use of an exclamation point. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 17:46, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pot-holder → ? – "Pot-holder" with a hyphen seems to be by far the least used version. Unfortunate, both pot holder and potholder are very close in usage: Google ngrams, Google Trends (shows "pot holder" being about 50% more searched for than "potholder" in the past few years, before then they were nearly identical), 1,970 Google scholar for "pot holder" (which includes pot-holder but a quick skim finds "pot holder" far out numbers it), 1,450 Google scholar for "potholder". Dictionaries that I looked at are 5-2 in favor of "potholder": "potholder": Collins (which labels it as British), Cambridge (which labels it as "mainly US"), Oxford Learner's (Which labels it as "(North American English)", American Heritage, and Dictionary.com; while for "pot holder": M-W; OED. I'm not a huge fan of just going by dictionary but perhaps give how similar ngrams and such are, I'd lean toward "potholder" which is also the direction ngramas has started to move toward, although "pot holder" was much more common from the 1860s until the late 1960s. I also don't think there seems to be sufficient English variety affinity for either spaced or not to justify using the uncommon hyphenated version. Skynxnex (talk) 16:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Canavalia kauaiensis → Canavalia hawaiiensis – According to Plants of the World Online, Canavalia kauaiensis is a heterotypic synonym of Canavalia hawaiiensis. William Avery (talk) 15:37, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Poo → Poo (disambiguation) – I see that feces is the primary subject. I will put on the top of the feces page. Kolano123 (talk) 13:32, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Městský fotbalový stadion Miroslava Valenty → Miroslav Valenta Municipal Football Stadium – See WP:UE. No evidence that the current titles are used in English-language reliable sources. Per the policy, we "translate it if this can be done without loss of accuracy and with greater understanding for the English-speaking reader.'" 162 etc. (talk) 20:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (Goodbye!) 06:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The King of Comedy → The King of Comedy (disambiguation) – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The film is the only match for the name “The King of Comedy” (other entries are simply “King of Comedy”). Addressing any concerns about WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT (such as with nicknames), Wikinav shows that the majority of visitors to the disambiguation page went to the film (86% for this September): clickstream data -- Dantus21 (talk) 00:27, 2 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (Goodbye!) 05:59, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dawlat al-Islam Qamat → Ummati Qad Laha Fajrun – "Ummati Qad Laha Fajrun" is the main title of the nasheed; Dawlat al Islam Qamat is the next set of lyrics. TheLibyanGuy (talk) 22:40, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly (talk) 05:20, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Paddle (spanking) → Spanking paddle – Per WP:DAB, we should use natural disambiguation when possible. When the term "spanking paddle" is even currently used in the intro sentence, it probably is sufficiently used to be the title anyway. BappleBusiness[talk] 04:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wall Street Crash of 1929 → Wall Street crash of 1929 – Per MOS:CAPS and WP:COMMONNAME. I see little support in reliable sources for capitalizing "Wall Street Crash" as a common name (which is the case for the alternate "Great Crash" or "Black Tuesday" names). "Wall Street crash" is just a simple descriptive title, like other entries in Category:Stock market crashes. — Goszei (talk) 03:45, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
November 8, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – Waverton railway station → Waverton railway station (Cheshire) – Suggest that this article does not meet the criteria to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. This article is about a closed station in use between 1898 and 1959 located in rural Cheshire. Meanwhile, Waverton railway station, Sydney is about a station active since 1893 located three stops down from the Sydney Harbour Bridge, with over a million passengers last year. Unsurprisingly, pageview analysis suggests that the active station gets more views, about 200 versus 50 per month. I note the convention seems to be for parenthetical disambiguation by ceremonial county, which seems to have alignment with adjacent policies WP:LONDONNAMES and WP:ENGLANDPLACE. Happy to stand corrected if this is the wrong approach. Tomiĉo (talk) 23:46, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ghosts (American TV series) → Ghosts (2021 TV series) – Back in 2022 this page was renamed as part of a larger proposal that included country of origin as a distinguishing factor. The close was contested and have since been reverted for the other two articles, so the rationale for this page's renaming is no longer valid. We have three Ghost TV shows; they don't come from three different countries so country of origin is an insufficient disambiguator; however they were all made in different years - all three shows should be disambiguated by year. 84.217.39.2 (talk) 18:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. JuniperChill (talk) 22:45, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Take Care → Take Care (disambiguation) – Last discussed in 2016; no consensus. Clear pageviews advantage. Take Care has gone 8x Platinum and has been named as one of the greatest albums of all time. This is the primary topic. Should there not be a consensus to move to the primary topic, then this should be moved to Take Care (Drake album), as there is now a WP:PDAB situation with this title. 162 etc. (talk) 22:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq → Zia-ul-Haq – He is more commonly known as Zia-ul-Haq. Reliable sources and the ngram tool both indicate a clear preference for this shorter version. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 22:19, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death of Abdul Wahid → Killing of Abdul Wahid – Per WP:DEATHS, Wahid was killed. मल्ल (talk) 21:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Daisy Eris Campbell → Daisy Campbell (writer) – It's generally that WP:COMMONNAME is preferable to WP:MIDDLENAME even if it means to include a disambiguator. All but one source (which that seems to be a dead link since it now redirects to the home page) emits her middle name. Additionally, according to WikiNav, over half of people typing 'Daisy Campbell' are looking for the writer and that 2% of pageviews come from that. The RMs located at the Emmerdale actress may also help JuniperChill (talk) 21:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Zack (given name) → Zach (given name) – The article should be moved to a page called Zach (given name) as that is by far the most common spelling, evidenced by the article itself, in which "Zach" appears at an almost 2:1 ratio with the second most common spelling "Zack." Zahonzik (talk) 21:11, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death of Khaled Mohamed Saeed → Killing of Khaled Mohamed Saeed – Per WP:DEATHS. Sources describe his death as a killing. मल्ल (talk) 21:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cargo 200 (code name) → Cargo 200 – it is an invalid disambig page with only two meanings --Altenmann >talk 23:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering (talk) 20:15, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Cargo 200 → Cargo 200 (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – The Mexican → The Mexican (film) – The title should clarify that this is a film as per WP:PARENDIS. According to WP standards, parenthetical disambiguation is needed because the standard use of Mexican is not for a film, but a person from Mexico. Currently, there is a backward redirect MexFin (talk) 06:22, 28 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 12:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering (talk) 17:44, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tropical Storm Trami (2024) → Tropical Storm Trami – The storm caused a higher death toll than the other storms named Trami. The article also meets WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. HurricaneEdgar 14:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 16:55, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering (talk) 17:43, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pablo Escobar, The Drug Lord → Pablo Escobar, el patrón del mal – Netflix title is "Pablo Escobar, el patrón del mal" (With that stylisation, is also the original stylisation). So I think we can consider that the new international title. "The drug lord" is also a very poor translation of "El patrón del Mal" Tazelaar (talk) 09:56, 25 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 12:17, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 17:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Murder of pregnant women → Pregnancy and femicide – I think the page should be named "Pregnancy and femicide" rather than "Murder of pregnant women" because, throughout the research I conducted to update and expand upon this page, the importance of designating this type of homicide as gender-based, and therefore a femicide, in order to properly address it and prevent further cases, was repeatedly emphasized. I therefore believe that changing the title to reflect this notion is crucial. Additionally, considering studies on pregnancy-associated femicide not only comprise the period of pregnancy, but the postpartum period as well, I feel that the current title does not accurately reflect the subject. Samdlb123 (talk) 03:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 17:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Deadlock (video game) → Deadlock (upcoming video game) – I have realized that the 1996 game Deadlock: Planetary Conquest was commonly referred to as "Deadlock" by critics. I believe the title needs additional disambiguation, eventually being replaced by its actual release year. The current disambiguation is insufficient. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 17:26, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – FWD Tower → PCP Tower – The building in question is actually known as Pacific Century Place. As written on the official website https://pcp-jakarta.com there is no record of the building ever being referred to as FWD Tower. This incorrect information is misleading and could cause confusion among users. Andres Arie Wibowo (talk) 09:26, 29 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 12:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 17:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Burn notice (document) → Burn notice – It is extremely odd that the common-noun capitalized Burn notice redirects to the television series Burn Notice instead of having this article there. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 10:11, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:Outing (essay) → ? – This essay currently has rather poor visibility, and I believe its title is to blame. For one, adding a hatnote to the target of Wikipedia:Outing and Wikipedia:OUTING to refer back to this essay seems like it would cause more confusion than help, especially given the already-large stack of hatnotes at that target. For two, this essay may be outdated, given it was created in 2006 and its most recent edit was in 2013; due to this, it seems some of the claims in the essay may be inaccurate since Wikipedia has advanced some of its policies since then. In a nutshell, I'm opening this move request since a new title for this page is a start, though not necessarily the end nor the only fix. Steel1943 (talk) 09:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bangalore → Bengaluru – Hello, I would like to highlight a previously closed proposal to move the article from Bangalore to Bengaluru. The last discussion was closed due to lack of evidence. The official name of the city is Bengaluru and is also the common use. Below are the evidences. As per WP:NAMECHANGES * https://web.archive.org/web/20120406020325/http://archive.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/oct82006/index2044162006107.asp * https://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/bangalore-becomes-bengaluru-11-other-cities-renamed/articleshow/45002333.cms * https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/it-is-official-bangalore-becomes-bengaluru/articleshow/45000684.cms * https://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/bangalore-is-now-bengaluru-114110100927_1.html * https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29845215 As per WP:COMMONNAME * https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/energy-and-environment/bengaluru-used-to-be-a-magical-city-for-urban-ecology-but-not-so-anymore/article68805101.ece * https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/britains-king-charles-on-a-personal-visit-to-bengaluru-6905225 * https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/bengaluru-news/bengalurus-second-international-airport-kunigal-emerging-as-front-runner-report-101729240799715.html * https://www.deccanherald.com/india/karnataka/bengaluru/south-bengaluru-likely-to-get-city-s-second-international-airport-3239145 * https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/mpox-cases-bengaluru-airport-starts-mandatory-monkeypox-testing-for-international-passengers/articleshow/113378881.cms * https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-68509409 Please let me know if any more evidence needs to be provided. Mantharatalk 19:15, 30 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 06:49, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Alleged CIA involvement in the Whitlam dismissal → CIA involvement in the Whitlam dismissal – As per several other articles including CIA involvement in Contra cocaine trafficking and the "CIA activities in" series. The involvement of the CIA is well documented as comprehensively detailed in the article including from CIA sources such as Christopher Boyce, these are not "allegations". GeebaKhap (talk) 06:26, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Al Nasr, Dubai → Oud Metha – This area is much better known as Oud Mehta than Al Nasr, which should qualify under WP:COMMONNAME. A google search of both the names will corroborate this. Newspapers in the country most commonly refer to this area as Oud Metha with no mention of Al Nasr, seen here, here, and here. Jolielover (talk) 03:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – React (JavaScript library) → React (software) – As per WP:QUALIFIER policy. This had already been implemented [21] but it was undone [22] with no counter-arguments. fgnievinski (talk) 03:11, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death Riders (professional wrestling) → Death Riders – Death Riders previous redirected to True Justice, a TV series starring Steven Seagal. True Justice was, according to IMDB, a spin off of a Seagal film called Death Riders. That film is not significant enough to have it's own article. The True Justice article does not use the term "Death Riders" once. As the one and only article called "Death Riders" on Wikipedia, Death Riders (professional wrestling) should now take over the primary title of "Death Riders". CeltBrowne (talk) 01:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – TVZ → ZBC TV (Zanzibar) – There are two issues to be addressed: 1) Television Zanzibar was renamed ZBC TV quite some time ago. 2) The abbreviation "TVZ" does not appear to refer primarily to this topic. Possible new names for the TV station are ZBC TV (Zanzibar) or Television Zanzibar if the focus is to remain on the historic station. NB that the title ZBC TV is already used for the Zimbabwean state TV network. — AjaxSmack 01:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Object 268 → Obiekt 268 – Comply with current naming of such articles about Soviet prototype vehicles such as "Obiekt 279" and "Obiekt 775". BeeboMan (talk) 00:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
November 7, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – Die Hard (film series) → Die Hard (franchise) – Given that the franchise is not exclusive to film, I think this move is appropriate. There are tie-in video games and comics to back this up. One example of this is Rambo (franchise), which was moved from Rambo (film series) back in 2018. The new title just makes more sense to me. GilaMonster536 (talk) 23:23, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cocoa → Cocoa (disambiguation) – Cocoa is a broader concept than cocoa bean. The former refers to cacao re; production while the latter refers narrowly to a segment of production. I.e. chocolate liquor is cocoa, but is no longer cocoa beans. There is conceptual slippage on this page and Wikipedia more generally: this page discusses Cocoa trading which is more expansive than cocoa beans and includes, for instance, cocoa butter. Our articles on production all reference cocoa rather than cocoa beans, i.e. Cocoa production in Ivory Coast due to this narrowness/broadness. It also just better reflects the literature and the most recent book on cocoa/cocoa beans as a commodity is called Cocoa (book). Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 22:22, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jasmine Revolution → Jasmine Revolution (disambiguation) – WP:COMMONNAME Kolano123 (talk) 20:37, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tomislav of Croatia → Tomislav, King of Croatia – Per WP:PRECISION, WP:SOVEREIGN, and WP:CONSISTENT, I request that the titles of the articles on these three Croatian rulers be changed. An extended rationale follows on Tomislav's talk page. AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 20:20, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2020 Hyderabad floods → Deep Depression BOB 02 (2020) – The floods were caused solely by the depression, unlike the January 2009 Fiji floods, which were caused by several factors. Hence, I think it should be moved there. Tavantius (talk) 18:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 19:22, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Classic book → Classical literature – Naturalness; Subject is as much a field of study as it is a "type" of object, "literature" covers both aspects of the topic. The redirect to classics studies does not make sense either per recognizability, very few people are going to be thinking of Homer or Vergil without also thinking of Shakespeare or Joyce. Orchastrattor (talk) 18:54, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Don't Worry 'bout a Thing → Don't Worry 'bout a Thing (disambiguation) – Everything else on the dab page has an inexact title to "Don't Worry 'bout a Thing". All the other entries have different words added. The SHeDAISY song is the only exact match for the title "Don't Worry 'bout a Thing". However, the other titles are similar enough that I feel a dab page should still exist. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Slipstream genre → Slipstream fiction – Very little precedent for "genre" in article titles like this one. "Slipstream fiction" obviously communicates the subject much better both out of consistency with speculative fiction or science fiction and due to the fact that "genre" can refer to many things outside of fiction. Orchastrattor (talk) 18:20, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Electrology → Electrolysis hair removal – A quick Google search reveals that "electrology hair removal" exclusively returns "electrolysis hair removal". This is the word used by the US Food and Drug Administration, the American Electrology Association, and numerous reliable sources. Courtesy ping participants in the Electrolysis (cosmetology) -> Electrology move (2005) @Jokestress and @Omegatron. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 18:05, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Statism in Shōwa Japan → Shōwa nationalism – Shōwa nationalism makes it clear that the subject is a particular ideology, rather than the prævalence of any of the forms of statism within Japan. N.b. my concurrent merge-proposal. Vex-Vectoꝛ 02:23, 20 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:25, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 16:01, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Phoenicia → Phoenicians – This article is about the Phoenicians. Phoenicia is a region but this article isn't really about the region. Phoenicians is used more often to refer to this group of citystates. Andre🚐 18:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – LVOA-C → LVOA – According to the LVOA ref, the nomenclature for this weapon is simply LVOA. The LVOA-C is only one variant, with the LVOA-S being the original design... - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:05, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hobson Street, Auckland → Hobson Street – Hobson Street originally redirected to King Street, Cambridge. Given the lack of article on a Hobson Street in Cambridge this article is the primary topic and should not occupy any disambiguation. No opposition to a disambiguation page being created at Hobson Street- if and only if another Hobson Street article is created Traumnovelle (talk) 09:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tyne and Wear Passenger Transport Executive → Nexus (transport executive) – I don't think I have ever heard the full name before. For example this page about the new trains doesn't display the current articles name. WP:CONCISE also applies. Not sure on what the disambiguator could be, but I think its correct. JuniperChill (talk) 18:23, 30 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RI talk 06:59, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shakespeare bibliography → William Shakespeare bibliography – Per WP:PRECISE, not WP:MONONYM. Unlike other writers with first names, including J. R. R. Tolkien bibliography, C. S. Lewis bibliography, and Edgar Allan Poe bibliography. Absolutiva (talk) 03:56, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Political appointments by Donald Trump → Political appointments by Donald Trump in his first term – Opening this discussion to discuss a good page name for these pages. As Trump has won a 2nd term, many of his existing presidential pages have been moved to "first ___ " (e.g. First cabinet of Donald Trump, First presidential transition of Donald Trump). Don't think that verbiage works well here, but asking for input for a good naming scheme. Also, feel free to add other pages that should be moved, as Trump is likely to have a new set of appointees, etc, during his 2nd term. Natg 19 (talk) 00:58, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Executive Office appointments by Donald Trump → Executive Office appointments by Donald Trump in his first term
- List of ambassadors appointed by Donald Trump → List of ambassadors appointed by Donald Trump in his first term
- List of United States attorneys appointed by Donald Trump → List of United States attorneys appointed by Donald Trump in his first term
- (Discuss) – Miami International Film Festival → Miami Film Festival – This is its current name, but a DAB exists there. As the short film festival has a distinct name, and there are no others on the list, I think that hatnotes would serve the purpose for redirecting from one to the other. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 00:52, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Miami Film Festival → Miami Film Festival (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – You Got It All → You Got It All (disambiguation) – The WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is very clearly the Jets song as its page views clearly surpasses both the Union J song and the album that song came from. Evidence per here Turtletennisfogwheat (talk) 00:42, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
November 6, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – Indo-Pacific Economic Framework → Indo-Pacific Economic Framework for Prosperity – --114.10.139.20 (talk) 22:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Slava Ukraini → Glory to Ukraine – Per WP:USEENGLISH, according to Google Ngram viewer. But also I'm an extended-confirmed user. Absolutiva (talk) 21:57, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tajiks of Xinjiang → Chinese Tajiks – In previous discussions over a decade and a half ago, the main points of contention were: "Which name(s) is more commonly used in reliable sources (i.e. WP:COMMONNAME)?" and "Which name(s) is appropriate, given that 'Tajik' is a misnomer because the group is actually ethnic Pamiris?" Since the discussions in 2009, scholarly articles and books have generally been split in usage of "Tajiks of Xinjiang" and "Chinese Tajiks". Neither name solves the second problem, and adding "Pamiris" in parentheses isn't necessary, in my opinion. The group itself has a distinct history and culture, and it is not merely a situation of Pamiris being on a different side of an international border (i.e. not Tajikistan). The Chinese government uses the term "Chinese Tajiks" in English to distinguish the group from Tajiks and Tajikistanis in China. It's also worth noting that members of this ethnic group have travelled and made homes elsewhere in China, so it doesn't make sense to have an article title that limits them to one specific part of the country. This article isn't about Tajiks or Pamiris who live in Xinjiang, but a distinct ethnicity that originated from the region. The article should therefore be renamed and moved to "Chinese Tajiks". Yue🌙 01:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 17:51, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wreck of the Mexico → 1837 wreck of the Mexico – This is not the only wreck of a ship named Mexico with an article on Wikipedia which has also been the subject of much coverage. Another wreck is covered at Southport and St Anne's lifeboats disaster -- and depends on whether you are British or American on which is prominent -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 08:45, 30 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). ASUKITE 17:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Philippine drug war → War on drugs in the Philippines – As per previous move requests. The drug operations was never called "Philippine drug war" as in the proper noun. The WP:COMMONNAME for this was Duterte's "War on drugs". It is the termed preferred in the latest Quad committee hearings. I will forego any questions on the scope of the article which has diluted the previous discussion. Let's just focus if "Philippine drug war" and "War on drugs in the Philippines" is the most apt title for this article. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 08:24, 22 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 09:52, 30 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 16:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gun Control in the Third Reich (book) → Gun Control in the Third Reich – "Gun Control in the Third Reich" is currently a disambig page, even though it is a natural title for this book's article. A hatnote is already in place. I don't see value in maintaining the separate disambig page. Ich (talk) 16:41, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – None Pizza Left Beef → None Pizza with Left Beef – On 5 November 2024 at 19:18 UTC, Red Slash (talk · contribs) moved the page in the other direction without discussion. This is in contravention of 7/7 of the reliable secondary sources cited in the article, the further reading link in the article, 6/8 of the marginal/unreliable sources above, and our policy at Wikipedia:Article titles#Deciding on an article title, which says,
Article titles are based on how reliable English-language sources refer to the article's subject.
— Fourthords | =Λ= | 15:15, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Don't Worry Kyoko (Mummy's Only Looking for Her Hand in the Snow) → Don't Worry Kyoko (Mummy's Only Looking for a Hand in the Snow) – The title of the song is "a" Hand in the Snow, not "Her Hand in the Snow". I understand that an early version used "her" but that is not the final title. Elephantranges (talk) 18:32, 24 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly (talk) 06:11, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of members of the Italian Chamber of Deputies, 2018–2022 → List of members of the Chamber of Deputies of Italy, 2018–2022 – Excluded from the 12 October discussion. Santiago Claudio (talk) 01:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly (talk) 06:10, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- List of members of the Italian Chamber of Deputies, 2013–2018 → List of members of the Chamber of Deputies of Italy, 2013–2018
- List of members of the Italian Chamber of Deputies, 2008–2013 → List of members of the Chamber of Deputies of Italy, 2008–2013
- List of members of the Italian Chamber of Deputies, 1983–1987 → List of members of the Chamber of Deputies of Italy, 1983–1987
- (Discuss) – Hurricane Paul (1982) → Hurricane Paul – very deadly but no retirement — and Gordon does not have the year in its title. AwesomeAndEpicGamer (talk) 21:12, 30 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:53, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lokotrans Aréna → Mladá Boleslav Municipal Stadium – Article Lokotrans Aréna should be renamed to Mladá Boleslav Municipal Stadium because Wikipedia generally avoids using commercial names for titles, particularly when they change frequently. This aligns with the established naming convention for municipal stadiums, as seen in articles like Białystok Municipal Stadium. A non-commercial name will also ensure consistency and longevity, given that sponsorship agreements can be temporary, while the location and public function of the stadium remain constant. Paradygmaty (talk) 16:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Paradygmaty (talk) 07:02, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:51, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Louisville International Airport → Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport – The airport was officially renamed 'Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport' in 2019. Although there was previously a move discussion in 2019 where it was argued that this name was not yet commonly recognized. But the name 'Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport' is now well established and widely used in official sources, media, and public. Moving the page to reflect the official, widely recognized name aligns with Wikipedia’s naming conventions for commonly used and official names. Cerium4B (talk) 21:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:43, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – In Sickness and in Health → ? – Currently, In sickness and in health redirects to Marriage vows, and to avoid confusion, this page maybe should have its title moved to something like In Sickness and in Health (television sitcom) or (British sitcom), or etc? Myrealnamm (💬pros · 📜cons) 00:30, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:38, 30 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:34, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – An Introduction to ..... → Introduction to Roy Harper – or An Introduction to Roy Harper or Introduction to ... or Introduction to... Roy Harper (with or without a space before the ellipsis). This is one of only three articles on Wikipedia that has five consecutive dots in the article title (along with two other albums: Endtroducing..... and 5.....Go). Independent reliable sourcing seems hard to find. Harper's own website listed it with only three dots. Allmusic has "Introduction to Roy Harper". Amazon.com has "Introduction by Harper, Roy". Discogs has "An Introduction To Roy Harper". Discogs (FWIW) has a photo of the liner notes, which say "An Introduction To Roy Harper". See also the prior RM commentary on the article's Talk page from 2010. — BarrelProof (talk) 02:05, 22 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 00:46, 30 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Meta Platforms → Meta (company) – Although its official name is Meta Platforms, its overwhelmingly WP:COMMONNAME is Meta. PhotographyEdits (talk) 16:00, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 04:26, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Women in the Bangladesh Army → Women in the Bangladesh Armed Forces – because the article has sections about the navy and air force. 37.111.207.150 (talk) 11:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 03:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Glenrio, New Mexico and Texas → Glenrio – Glenrio is a ghost town located in two states. 2600:1700:6180:6290:CD63:1869:B1AE:B45A (talk) 02:39, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Middle Eastern crisis (2023–present) → Middle Eastern crisis – what are we disambiguating exactly? no need to include the dates in the article name WP:CONCISE Abo Yemen✉ 15:02, 5 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). estar8806 (talk) ★ 01:53, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2019 Tacoma attack → 2019 Tacoma, Washington attack – Per parent article Tacoma, Washington. --Another Believer (Talk) 01:46, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hurricane Rafael (2024) → Hurricane Rafael – This Rafael has already quintupled (septupled with missings) the deaths attributed to 2012 and is likely to trump it in damages too after it landfalls in Cuba and the United States. ✶Quxyz✶ 01:45, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Crime 101 (2025 film) → Crime 101 – Scarfies appears to be a little known film, with only two critic reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, and Crime 101 being a mere straight-to-DVD title (it screened as Scarfies at Sundance). A studio film with an A-list cast must trump it in notability. Nardog (talk) 01:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 5.56×45mm NATO → 5.56 × 45 mm NATO – See MOS:UNITSYMBOLS and decision. Ahri Boy (talk) 00:19, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 01:21, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:Pokémon test → Wikipedia:Historical archive/Policy/Notability/Pokémon test – And, following the move: *List in Wikipedia:Historical archive/Policy/Notability *Do not retarget WP:POKETEST, WP:PTEST, WP:KIT, and WP:KAREN to Wikipedia:Historical archive/Policy/Notability/Pokémon test; instead: *Soft redirect Wikipedia:Pokémon test to Wikipedia:Historical archive/Policy/Notability/Pokémon test, and let the shortcut pages continue to target this then-soft redirect *And a notice at the soft redirect that there had been content at this name which had been cited as an essay but it was in fact never an essay and should not be cited as an argument in discussions—similar in form (as a soft redirect, meaning soft redirect + notice) Wikipedia:PORNBIO, Wikipedia:Don't be a dick ... This page is not an essay. It is marked as essay, and it should not be. It is a summary of historical discussions, arguments and other activities during a specific period. Whenever this is cited as an essay, that's only causes confusion. This page is naturally one of the Wikipedia:Historical archive/Policy/Notability pages. It also fits within the timeframe, being created in 2006. Doing this would make the Wikipedia historical archive on notability better. —Alalch E. 01:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Danielle Evans → deleted to make room for move – Sole Wikipedia entry for an author whose pen name is Danielle Evans, not the full "Danielle Valore Evans", as confirmed by the eight inline cites under her section header "References" as well as five links under "External links". The only other entry upon the currently existing Danielle Evans disambiguation page is for model Dani Evans who is referenced as "Dani", not "Danielle", by the four inline cites under her section header "Sources" as well as three links under "External links". A hatnote atop each woman's entry pointing to the other should suffice. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
November 5, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – Interstate 87 (New York) → Interstate 87 in New York – Both I-87s are supposed to be connected to each other via New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia. 2600:1700:6180:6290:CD63:1869:B1AE:B45A (talk) 23:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gamergate (harassment campaign) → Gamergate – In /Archive 13#Requested moves (12 November 2014), there was no consensus to move to Gamergate due to recentism and whether it is the primary topic. In Talk:Gamergate (ant)/Archive 3#Requested move 20 August 2021, there was consensus to move the ant species to use its qualifier. It is now clear that there is no recentism issue, and the hatnote indicates this is the primary topic "GamerGate redirects here. For other uses, see Gamergate (disambiguation)." Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 22:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Gamergate → Gamergate (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Kyle Harrison → Deleted to make way for page move – Primary topic. Per WP:PTOPIC. See, inter alia, 88% pageviews. Over the past 3 years, the proposed primary topic has received 61,000 views, vs 8,000 for the other person with the same name.[23]) 17:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 22:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Stadion Miejski (Białystok) → Białystok Municipal Stadium – I am submitting this request to revert the article title of the stadium in Białystok to its previous title, Białystok Municipal Stadium in light of recent actions by the user FromCzech. The move to the Polish-language title Stadion Miejski (Białystok) was made unilaterally and appears inconsistent with Wikipedia's guidelines, specifically WP:UE. This guideline encourages the use of English translations where appropriate to maintain accessibility for the global readership. FromCzech has argued for the name change without prior discussion, potentially as a reaction to a naming debate on Lokotrans Aréna that I initiated. This recent move does not reflect a consensus, and it also disrupts the established consistency within the "Football venues in Poland" category, where nearly all stadium names are translated into English. Notable examples include Father Władysław Augustynek Stadium, Gdynia Municipal Stadium, Kielce Municipal Stadium, and Raków Municipal Stadium. I urge that the title "Białystok Municipal Stadium" be restored to uphold Wikipedia’s principles of consistency and transparency, while also preventing this matter from being affected by personal disputes or editing motivated by anything other than Wikipedia's editorial standards. Paradygmaty (talk) 21:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Constance of Aragon → Constance of Aragon, Holy Roman Empress – No primary topic. Srnec (talk) 19:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lamb and mutton → Sheep meat – "Sheep meat" already covers both lamb (i.e. young sheep) and mutton (i.e. mature sheep), but it is more concise and avoids the "X and Y" format (which is awkward, and best avoided where possible according to the article title guidelines.) 🦬 Beefaloe 🦬 19:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Belle Haven, Virginia → Belle Haven, Virginia (disambiguation) – Belle Haven is a settlement located in two counties. 2600:1700:6180:6290:ED8E:28D7:94A9:E4AD (talk) 02:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:24, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 15:50, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Crown Office → Crown Office in Chancery – This name can refer to either the Crown Office in Chancery (central UK Government) or the Crown Office & Procurator Fiscal Service (devolved Scottish Government). Currently Crown Office refers to the London institution with Crown Office in Chancery being a redirect to it. I would prefer that these be swapped around so that Crown Office in Chancery becomes the name of the article and Crown Office becomes a disambiguation page. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 11:28, 27 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). estar8806 (talk) ★ 19:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 15:45, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lost (2004 TV series) → Lost (TV series) – Likely WP:PRIMARYPDAB over the two other Lost TV series, per a ~63:1 pageview ratio with the 2001 and the 2021 series combined and per long-term pageview statistics. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 18:03, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 11:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Libera Università Internazionale degli Studi Sociali Guido Carli → Luiss University – WP:COMMONNAME in English Pantarch (talk) 10:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Libera Università Maria SS. Assunta → LUMSA University – WP:COMMONNAME in English Pantarch (talk) 10:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mezhdunarodnaya (Moscow Metro) → Moskva-City (Filyovskaya line) – The station was renamed and its official English name is Moskva-City per the map here. The "COMMONNAME" argument is completely incorrect since using the outdated name will only confuse those who will use this article to navigate in the metro. 212.3.142.55 (talk) 23:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 09:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mumbai Xpress → Mumbai Xpress (2005 Tamil film) – Since there is a Mumbai Xpress (2005 Hindi film) now. DareshMohan (talk) 08:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gitmo playlist → Music torture in the war on terror – About half of the sources on the page currently lump in music torture at Gitmo with the other American detention camps in the War on Terror, so I think we should expand the scope of this article beyond Gitmo. @AirshipJungleman29 did suggest "Auditory torture in Guantanamo Bay", but most of the sources almost exclusively focus on music. It's possible both are just pitfalls of music, but I think this is still good enough reason for a move. Based5290 :3 (talk) 07:35, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hasmah Mohamad Ali → Siti Hasmah Mohamad Ali – The article in question was originally titled 'Siti Hasmah Mohamad Ali'. An editor renamed the title to 'Hasmah Mohamad Ali' without any previous discussion. The BLP's name change has yet to gain currency in the reliable mainstream sources. The old name/title should be maintaind in the meantime. Perusal of government record as far as 1975 also shows 'Dr. (Puan) Siti Hasmah binti Haji Mohd Ali'. [1]
- Sreeking (talk) 00:08, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 07:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fischer random chess → Chess 960 – "Chess 960" is the WP:COMMONNAME for this chess variant, based on press coverage (newspapers.com articles found from the last 20 years: 82 mentioning "Chess 960" and 65 mentioning Fischer Random Chess, many mentioning both), major chess sites including chess.com and lichess.org, recent books, and chess organizations. Other Wikipedias have also started to move away from "Fischer" in the title with 20 out of 39 using "960" in the title instead. While Fischer Random Chess is still often used as a term, it is no longer the most common name. In recent years, "Fischer Random Chess" is typically mentioned only once in reliable sources, often parenthetically or as a secondary term, with "Chess 960" used for the remainder of the article, book, etc. While the article does discuss several other variants, the focus of the article is Chess 960 and it makes sense to keep the article history connected to Chess 960 as a topic. As to "Chess 960" vs. "Chess960", including the space seems to be more frequent based on newspapers.com and Google searches, but both are often used. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 00:37, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Senior sport → Masters sport – Masters is the more common term around the world, for most sports. See the articles on Masters athletics, Masters swimming etc. Also 'senior' can refer to anyone over 18 (ie not a 'junior'). Craobh àrd (talk) 17:07, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 06:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ancient Celtic religion → Celtic paganism – As per the previous move request, WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONSISTENCY. "Ancient Celtic religion" receives a mere 180 Google Scholar results, while "Celtic paganism" receives 985 from the same site. Furthermore, the name "Ancient Celtic religion" (and associated category) is inconsistent with names of other articles on historical religions, which do not use "ancient" and use "paganism" instead of "religion", e.g. Germanic paganism and Slavic paganism. Even the article Proto-Celtic paganism obeys this structure. Midnight-Blue766 (talk) 22:46, 24 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 06:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Peanut (squirrel) → Death of Peanut the squirrel – The vast majority of the coverage of this animal appears to be about the animal's death rather than about the animal's life. I think this article might be better focused on that event and cover the squirrel's life in the context of the main focus of coverage here. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 02:04, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Minister for Northern Australia → Minister for Northern Australia (disambiguation) – The federal portfolio is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The NT portfolio is defunct and minor. DilatoryRevolution (talk) 00:31, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
November 4, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – Williams Grand Prix Engineering → Williams Racing – Fairly clear example of WP:COMMONNAME. Mb2437 (talk) 14:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 23:06, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Prince Emil of Hesse and by Rhine → Prince Emil of Hesse – Per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CRITERIA, WP:NCPRINCES, and WP:SURPRISE, I request that the title for the article on the fourth son of Louis I, Grand Duke of Hesse be changed. An extended rationale follows on the article's talk page. AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 21:43, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Aesculus glabra → Ohio buckeye – WP:FLORACOMMONNAME Kolano123 (talk) 20:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – White Party (Sean Combs) → Diddy Parties – As stated in the article, Diddy Parties is more commonly referred to with regards to White parties by Sean Combs (Diddy). Proposing move per WP:CONCISE, WP:COMMONNAME, and WP:PRECISE. Other alternatives like Diddy Party, White Party (Diddy), etc. are not off the table. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 18:57, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Arthur Shurlock → Art Shurlock – Per WP:COMMONNAME. The destination page currently serves as a redirect to this one and it should be the other way around. Subject is most commonly identified as Art, not by his full name of Arthur. This can be observed via USA Gymnastics, UCLA Bruins athletics, Cal Bears athletics, UIC Flames athletics, Los Angeles Times, etc. GauchoDude (talk) 18:46, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Oakland Athletics → Athletics (baseball) – Or Athletics (baseball club). The team has left Oakland for good, and MLB.com now lists the team without a city identifier. This is a full RM because of the issues mentioned in the sections above this on the talk page; feel free to also discuss whether the Oakland Athletics page (the current location) should redirect or be split off. O.N.R. (talk) 16:39, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Negative responsiveness paradox → Negative responsiveness – Opening this up for discussion to refine a previous bold move from monotonicity criterion a few weeks back, see also previous section discussion other possible options, which include Additional support paradox, Less-is-more paradox, reverting back to the old title, or possibly inverted versions of the suggested titles (e.g. monotonicity failure/anomaly or positive response/iveness). There is an argument from Closed Limelike Curves to favour the negative as it seems more intuitive, and no consensus on whether there is a clear common name in literature. Alpha3031 (t • c) 04:49, 27 October 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. FOARP (talk) 15:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Umayyad conquest of Sindh → Umayyad conquest of Sindh – The article includes the Rashidun conquest of Sindh in addition to Umayyad conquest Waleed (talk) 15:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Love Live! School Idol Project (TV series) → List of Love Live! School Idol Project episodes – As with other episode list pages, moving to "List of Love Live! School Idol Project episodes" might make sense and be more appropriate. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 12:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – John Savage (actor) → John Savage – "John Savage (actor)" is the clear primary topic by usage. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 12:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- John Savage → John Savage (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Bug Hunter → Bug Hunter (game) – WP:PTOPIC: Pageviews between the band and game this year are 8:1 (despite the What Links Here pageview ratio being 1:62), and Google searching "bug hunter" instantly pulls up the band while nothing about the game until page 7. Koopastar (talk) 03:12, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ATM → ATM (disambiguation) – ATM should redirect to Automatic teller machine (ATM) per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Pageview data from this ATM disambiguation page shows the machine article get more traffic than the other topics combined. When users search for "ATM," the vast majority are seeking information about banking machines rather than the many other, less common meanings that would remain easily accessible via a hatnote on the Automated teller machine article: Other notable abbreviations with a widely recognized primary topic, like NASA or URL, already employ similar redirects. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 02:50, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
November 3, 2024
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edit- (Discuss) – Telangana State Wakf Board → Telangana State Waqf Board – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Kumar Dayal (talk) 17:59, 27 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 23:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tel al-Sultan attack → ? – I am bringing this discussion back up with a stronger argument and after the Good Article review has concluded. I have identified many sources calling this incident a massacre. There are likely more, so feel free to add any. They include The Guardian (opinion piece), Morrocco World News, The Peninsula Qatar, Truthout, Al-Ahram, Daily Sabah, Jacobin, Vox (Not explicitly, though cites someone calling it one, says it’s a slaughter in headline, and says Israel is massacring Palestinians), TRT World (Partially reliable) Le Monde, Middle East Eye, El Pais, The New Arab, Mondoweiss, Gulf News, Huffington Post (Disputed reliability), The Intercept, The Nation (opinion piece), Aljazeera and Aljazeera Arabic. Many mainstream media articles also cite people who describe the attack as a massacre, though do not explicitly claim it to be so. Humanitarian groups Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor and Doctors Without Borders have described the incident as a massacre. Officials of Colombia,[24] Saudi Arabia,[25] the State of Palestine,[26] and the Organization of Islamic States[27] have called the attack a massacre. United Nations Special Rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories Francesca Albanese has called it a massacre.[28] Additionally, Hamas and the Palestinian Civil Defense in Rafah have called the incident a massacre.[29] Last time, there was also the issue of whether the attacks were intentional, as “massacre” is a loaded word that may imply intentionally killing civilians. Firstly, NYT quotes an expert who suggests Israel may have tried to mitigate harm but accepted civilian casualties,[30] and an MSNBC analysis indicates Israel should have known there were civilians in the area.[31] Al-Jazeera’s fact checking agency[32] and India Today[33] think so, and suggestions by Israel that a weapons dump exploded have been refuted by the New York Times, who found no evidence of the claim.[34] Egypt[35] and the PA[36] also allege that it was intentional. There is still the issue of what exactly to call the article in any case. We have some options:
A: Keep it the same, Tel al-Sultan _.
B: Rafah tent camp _.
C: Just "Rafah _" Personisinsterest (talk) 21:43, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron → Wikipedia:WikiProject Article Rescue Squadron – It's a WikiProject. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 15:50, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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edit- (Discuss) – Michael Scott (film director) → Michael M. Scott – "(film director)" is limiting, he introduced as "director, producer and documentary filmmaker" in the article. Michael Scott (filmmaker) is a redirect to Ryan vs. Dorkman, so already taken. In his article Michael Scott (film director) he is referred to as "Michael M. Scott" (this needs confirmation from a reliable source though). Note that Category:Films directed by Michael M. Scott has existed for four years but needs to be populated. I couldn't find any guidance in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people). Commander Keane (talk) 20:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Robert Roberson case → Robert Roberson – This is a bio article and "case" in title makes no sense nor is accurate of what the entire article is about. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:19, 24 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 16:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 17:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – First Battle of Panipat → First battle of Panipat – These are mostly lowercase in sources, until a recent uptick in caps likely influenced by Wikipedia, and still not close to the MOS:CAPS threshold of "consistently capitalized" in reliable sources. Dicklyon (talk) 16:21, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Neopanax colensoi → Pseudopanax colensoi – WP:COMMONNAME and WP:FLORA - overwhelming usage within recent scientific papers, despite mixed use in taxonomic databases. Without a clear scientific basis for a preference of one name over the other, MOS:ENGVAR/MOS:TIES: that there is a clear consensus among New Zealand scientific sources for a clade of plants endemic to New Zealand. *Neopanax and Pseudopanax together form a clade. Currently there are three morphological forms of the species within this clade - two are always described as Pseudopanax, while one (the more basal form) is sometimes described as Neopanax and sometimes Pseudopanax. page 52 of this thesis has a useful graph showing phylogenetic relationships within the group. Neopanax was synonymised with Pseudopanax in the 20th century, re-established as a genus in 2004, but the justification of this was disputed in 2009. The distinction appears to be one based on conventions rather than a clear scientific justification (i.e. less based on whether or not Neopanax is a distinct clade within Pseudopanax, and more based on whether it's justified to use a different name for this clade, or to continue to use the pre-2004 convention). This issue was previously discussed at WikiProject Plants. *Different taxonomical databases use different preferred names. Pseudopanax is overwhelmingly used by New Zealand databases. **Pseudopanax preferred: NZ Flora, Biota of New Zealand, IUCN, iNaturalist, NZOR and NZTCS **Neopanax preferred: CoL, EoL, GBIF, IRMNG, NCBI, OTOL, POWO *Recent scientific sources outside of taxonomic databases overwhelmingly prefer Pseudopanax. Looking at Post-2020 Google Scholar results for species within the Neopanax clade:
*Neopanax arboreus 6 *Neopanax colensoi 3 *Neopanax kermadecensis 0 *Neopanax laetus 0 *Neopanax macintyrei 1 | *Pseudopanax arboreus 150 *Pseudopanax colensoi 29 *Pseudopanax kermadecensis 3 *Pseudopanax laetus 4 *Pseudopanax macintyrei 2 |
Prosperosity (talk) 00:57, 6 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 08:05, 13 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 14:44, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:13, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tag Team (group) → Tag Team (duo) – They're a duo, not a group. Exactly two people. "Duo" is an acceptable disambiguation per Trout Fishing in America (duo), Love and Theft (duo), et al. I think the last two move requests got muddied because some were pulling for whether or not the disambiguator should be added at all, but this time I am only pushing for a move to "Tag Team (duo)" because, well, they are a duo, not a group. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:23, 16 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:52, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Swedish Brother's Feud → ? – The current title is perhaps a partial translation of Den andra brödrastriden (no source is given), but as far as I know, the conflict doesn't have an established name. Since Wikipedia's scope is global and it covers all time periods, this short title seems somewhat weird. Also, it should be Swedish brothers' feud, with plural brothers and without capitalization, since it is not really a proper name but a descriptive phrase. I suggest two alternatives, between which I am quite undecided: * Conflict between Birger Magnusson and his brothers, based on the title of Jerker Rosén's dissertation "Striden mellan Birger Magnusson och hans bröder : studier i nordisk politisk historia 1302-1319". * Inter-Nordic conflict of 1302–1319, based on Sverre Bagge's article Aims and means in the inter‐Nordic conflicts 1302–1319 (I don't think the plural is absolutely necessary, and using it might suggest that the article is a list). The latter title would make the focus of the article a bit wider. This would help avoid duplicating content, since the strife between Magnussons is already covered in their biographies. However, going into detail about the power-play between different kingdoms (See Bagge's article) might be a distraction in the biographies, but could be discussed here. Sundberg 2010 calls this Kampen mellan Birger och hans bröder 1304–1310. Sundberg's time limits are explained by his focus on armed conflict. However, I think Rosén's and Bagge's temporal limits make more sense, since the political conflict already starts when Birger becomes of age 1302, and ends in 1319 to his deposition. — Jähmefyysikko (talk) 07:10, 15 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 14:43, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 02:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2021 Western Kentucky tornado → 2021 Mayfield tornado – The new copy-edited lede changed by @Baffle gab1978 brought to me the realization that Wikipedia is one of the few places on the web referring to this event by this name. As the majority of coverage was in Mayfield, it has informally become known as the Mayfield tornado by sources, and as such Wikipedia should in theory call it that too per WP:COMMONNAME. Also, per WP:Naming conventions (events),
[i]f more than one name is in common use, the name used by NOAA or an official weather agency should take precedence except in extraordinary circumstances, and there should be redirects from any other names.
This source from the NCEI, a roundup of December 2021 events, states[t]he historic “Mayfield tornado,” as its commonly called, was on the ground for 165.7 miles, had peak winds of 190 mph, and resulted in 55+ fatalities
, and as far as I'm aware there's no NOAA/NWS sources calling it the "Western Kentucky tornado" (p.s., I'm using this usa.gov search tool to query this, and that returned 0 for "Western Kentucky tornado"). Strictly off policy, I would boldly move this, but as this is one of the most important tornado articles in today's Wikipedia, I thought I'd start a discussion. Departure– (talk) 00:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Home improvement → Home renovation – Home renovation currently redirects to Home improvement, rather than to either a separate article on Home repair or to a general article on Renovation. Thus, it is likely that a majority of users who type "home improvement" are searching for the familiar TV sitcom. Those researching how to remodel a house probably know the sitcom's title and may prefer to type "home renovation". In any event, there is no need for Home improvement (disambiguation) to carry the parenthetical qualifier "(disambiguation)" since all the other entries use uppercase "I". The lowercase Home improvement can then redirect to the renamed uppercase Home Improvement dab page which would, of course, still carry an entry stating — "Home improvement, alternative name for Home renovation". — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:55, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Steve Miller (author) → Steve Miller (author, born 1967) – Per my prior comment at Talk:Steve Miller (ice hockey), resolve a series of unjustified partial disambiguations here and ensure each of these people has a qualifier that doesn't apply to any of the others. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Steve Miller (American football coach) → Steve Miller (American football coach, born 1943)
- Steven Miller (gridiron football) → Steven Miller (gridiron football, born 1941)
- Steve Miller (athletics) → Steve Miller (Chicago athlete)
- Steve Miller (business) → ?
- Stephen Miller (athlete) → Stephen Miller (British athlete)
- Stephen Miller (writer) → Stephen Miller (writer, born 1941)
- (Discuss) – Friedrich Saemisch → Friedrich Saemisch (politician) – Ambiguous with Friedrich Sämisch - these are both the same name, but transliterated differently. Redirect Friedrich Saemisch to the primary topic Friedrich Sämisch. 162 etc. (talk) 19:26, 18 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. SilverLocust 💬 09:38, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Superstack → Superstack (disambiguation) – The Inco Superstack, commonly known as Superstack, is the primary topic here. Both other topics at the dabpage are minor WP:DABMENTIONs and not particularly notable. Retarget Superstack to the primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 16:32, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. SilverLocust 💬 09:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hook (Blues Traveler song) → Hook (song) – Currently, Hook (song) is a redirect towards Hook (music), a concept that is in music and not a song. Per WP:DABSONG, the disambiguator "(song)" is intended to be used for musical compositions, not concepts in the compositions. Also per WP:DABSONG, since the Blues Traveler song seems to be the only composition with an article (see
Hook (disambiguation)#Other arts and entertainmentHook (disambiguation)#Music), this article should be retitled as proposed. Steel1943 (talk) 16:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hiawatha (train) → Hiawatha (MILW train) – These paranthetical names aren't quite as clear and precise as they can be since multiple other trains have used these names throughout their history. The simple parenthetical "(train)" isn't really enough to distinguish these different trains from each other. The first article is solely about the multiple trains operated by the Milwaukee Road which predate the current Amtrak train along the corridor of the same name. The name could be changed to "trains" to indicate the multitude of different trains covered in the article. The Amtrak/Via Maple Leaf isn't the only named train with a termini in Toronto, especially the historical Lehigh Valley Railroad train, which also ran to New York City, albeit with a different alignment. The name of the article could also be changed to maybe "Amtrak/Via", but the train from my understanding is moreso grouped with Amtrak. The Amtrak Palmetto is the successor of the ACL train of the same name. The fourth article is about a completely unrelated historical ATSF train operating in California separate from the current Amtrak train. The Wolverine is also the name of a historical New York Central Railroad train. Nonetheless, I don't necessarily believe in these names as final as I want them to be subject to change, and not all of them need to be implemented. I will say that if we decide that the simple parenthetical of "(train)" is sufficient in describing the articles in question, then perhaps instead the article titles for the Amtrak Pere Marquette, Silver Star, and Valley Flyer could have "Amtrak" dropped from their parentheticals for naming consistency across all Amtrak train articles. Thoughts? OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 06:21, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Melange (fictional drug) → Melange (Dune) – Without commenting on whether the title should be "Spice", it should be moved to the proper disambiguation. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:03, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The "Human" Factor (1975 film) → The Human Factor (1975 film) – Most of the sources and external links don't use the scare quotes, and the materials from the movie itself don't seem to use them either. I haven't attempted to find out which usage is more common overall through search. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation) → Attempted assassination of Donald Trump – The fact that the Pennsylvania article is located at Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Pennsylvania rather than Attempted assassination of Donald Trump suggests that there is no primary topic. This will hopefully resolve the confusion raised at User talk:SilverLocust#Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation). GTrang (talk) 14:01, 11 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. estar8806 (talk) ★ 18:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Spy pixel → Tracking pixel – The proposed name seems more common, more neutral, and more formal. Note that tracking pixels (plural) redirects to a different article: Web beacon. I suggest the singular and plural terms should lead to the same article (this one). — BarrelProof (talk) 16:07, 22 October 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of World War II flying aces → Lists of World War II flying aces – This article is now a list of lists. The title should reflect that. RedDeadGuy (talk) 05:46, 21 October 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Alan Rose (public servant) → Alan Rose (Australian public servant) – WP:AT ambiguous disambiguation is a bad idea wP:PRECISE multiple public servants named Alan Rose with articles on Wikipedia, particularly, the nominal primary topic is a British judge, Alan Rose; The article should be moved without leaving a redirect behind, as there's no disambiguation page for "Alan Rose" to repoint it to. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 11:48, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 14:23, 7 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:23, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Central European floods → Storm Boris (2024) – Wrong name: Boris affected also Southern Europe (Italy and Greece).-- Carnby (talk) 10:00, 20 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 17:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Feelie → Feelie (video games) – There is no clear primary topic between this and Feelie (Brave New World), upon which the name for this type of object was based. Full disclosure: I wrote the latter article just now, due to my suspicion that a notable topic had been usurped by this particular article, and indeed I discovered one. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's primary, though it might be, but putting a disambiguation page at the primary namespace is probably easier to agree on. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:04, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Australian Capital Territory general election → 2024 Australian Capital Territory election – I don't think common name includes the word "general". "2024 Australian Capital Territory Legislative Assembly election" could also work but is wordyTheLoyalOrder (talk) 08:42, 19 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. estar8806 (talk) ★ 00:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bateidae → Batea (genus) – Per WP:MONOTYPICFAUNA, a monogeneric family should be described at the genus's title. However, in this case the genus requires more disambiguation than the family, which might contradict WP:NATDIS. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Heterosexual relationships among LGBTQ people → Cross-sex relationships among LGBTQ people – The main article for the corresponding Heterosexual relationship/Cross-sex relationship we have is Same-sex relationship, as Homosexual relationship redirects there. There is Cross-sex friendship. I also would be in favour of Cross-gender relationships among LGBTQ people if possible. If duaric had an article and was popular enough, mayhaps it would be worthy to use Duaric relationships among LGBTQ people, as that would be the most politically correct. Web-julio (talk) 06:50, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Minnesota Fats → Minnesota Fats (character) – Why isn't the article at Minnesota Fats? That is by far the most common name used here to refer to him. Every source in the article uses Minnesota Fats, to the point even his NYT obit called him that and not Rudolph Wanderone, and the word "Wanderone" is hardly used in the text of the article instead of "Fats". Sure, he named himself after a fictional character, but inbound links and page views suggest most people looking for "Minnesota Fats" are looking for the pool player and not the character. It's blatantly obvious Wanderone's legacy has far outlasted that of the fictional character from whom he derived his name. This seems a crystal-clear violation of WP:COMMONNAME to have his article at "Rudolph Wanderone", and to me, it's like if we arbitrarily decided to move Lady Gaga's article to "Stefani Germanotta". I'm genuinely shocked no one else has even considered this issue in the past ten years. Previous discussion in 2014 had everyone pulling a different direction, and me in a more hostile mood, so I'm hoping to get a consensus this time with a clearer focus from both me and others. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 20:08, 16 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 00:23, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Train simulator (disambiguation) → Train Simulator – Microsoft Train Simulator, Train Simulator Classic, and Train Simulator (Ongakukan) have all been referred to as "Train Simulator" alone, so they aren't just partial title matches. The generic topic of train simulator doesn't seem to be commonly capitalized. Therefore, I think that the capitalized form Train Simulator is more ambiguous than the uncapitalized form – which is why it was recently retargeted to here. And since all the non-primary titles here are capitalized, my understanding of WP:DABNAME is that the disambiguation page should be capitalized as well. (Note that a redirect from Train Simulator to Train Simulator (disambiguation) would make the latter WP:MALPLACED.) jlwoodwa (talk) 21:33, 14 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 03:20, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ordre des Arts et des Lettres → Order of Arts and Letters – Per WP:CRITERIA; the Order is more commonly referred to as "Order of Arts and Letters" in English-language sources. Zoolver (talk) 23:10, 12 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Zoolver (talk) 02:22, 16 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 02:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – LGBT history in Georgia → LGBT in Georgia – Following the suggestion by Bungle, and basing what I did in LGBT in Korea, merge both and rename to LGBT in Georgia (or LGBTQ in Georgia, per WP:CONSUB of LGBTQ). --MikutoH talk! 01:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering (talk) 00:05, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ICC Men's T20 World Cup → Men's T20 World Cup – per WP:COMMONNAME and per the above RM discussion as well. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 15:35, 5 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 11:45, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- 2007 ICC World Twenty20 → 2007 World Twenty20
- 2009 ICC World Twenty20 → 2009 World Twenty20
- 2010 ICC World Twenty20 → 2010 World Twenty20
- 2012 ICC World Twenty20 → 2012 World Twenty20
- 2014 ICC World Twenty20 → 2014 World Twenty20
- 2016 ICC World Twenty20 → 2016 World Twenty20
- 2021 ICC Men's T20 World Cup → 2021 Men's T20 World Cup
- 2022 ICC Men's T20 World Cup → 2022 Men's T20 World Cup
- 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup → 2024 Men's T20 World Cup
- 2026 ICC Men's T20 World Cup → 2026 Men's T20 World Cup
- 2028 ICC Men's T20 World Cup → 2028 Men's T20 World Cup
- ICC Men's T20 World Cup Qualifier → Men's T20 World Cup Qualifier
- (Discuss) – Siege of Gerona (disambiguation) → Sieges of Gerona – Several issues I hope to address with these proposed moves. First, it makes little sense to have the "second" and "third" sieges as titles but to call the first event a battle; of the three is was the most like a battle, but the distinction is confusing in this case. It does seem that [ordinal] siege of Gerona is the most common manner of disambiguating the various events. If the first segment were to carry the WP:COMMONNAME "Battle" then it should not carry a parenthetical qualifier, being already WP:NATURALly disambiguated and the primary topic for the term; the base name Battle of Girona already redirects there and is WP:MISPLACED. Second, when used alone without additional context, "Siege of Gerona" does seem to refer to the successful final siege as a primary topic, and currently redirects there. I am proposing to leave this as a primary redirect and turn the disambiguation page into a set index at the plural, but I would also support having the set index in place of the redirect at the singular. Third, while I personally feel "Siege" in these titles is part of the proper noun, use in sources is mixed, and most "siege" articles on enwiki do not take siege as part of the proper noun (in contrast to "Battle of..." which is almost always part of the proper noun; I don't see the distinction) and WP:MILCAPS is vague, so for now let's go for being the most consistent. Lastly, as for the Girona vs. Gerona issue, there has been past move reversions and discussion about this (e.g. Talk:Third siege of Girona#Girona/Gerona), and we should reach consensus here. I am open to either spelling, but am proposing a return to Gerona because it does seem a majority of reliable sources use this spelling, and that is the criterion upon which we should base our choice. On the other hand, the modern spelling of the city is the Catalan spelling. Regardless, the set index/disambiguation page should use the same spelling as the articles. Overall, I am open to discussing and considering any and all variations of this proposal, but the status quo should not be kept. Mdewman6 (talk) 04:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Possibly incomplete requests
edit- Talk:ATM – ATM is requested for move to ATM (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
- Talk:Vitalstatistix – Vitalstatistix is requested for move to Vitalstatistix (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
- Talk:Poo – Poo is requested for move to Poo (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
- Talk:Wade Wilson – Wade Wilson is requested for move to Wade Wilson (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
- Talk:Superstack – Superstack is requested for move to Superstack (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
- Talk:You Got It All – You Got It All is requested for move to You Got It All (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?