Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Madrasatul Islah
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The result was keep. Michig (talk) 09:46, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
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Non notable Islamic seminary. ❁ᴀᴜᴛʜᴏʀ❁ (❁ᴅᴏᴍ❁) 11:12, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. ❁ᴀᴜᴛʜᴏʀ❁ (❁ᴅᴏᴍ❁) 11:12, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:26, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
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Keep No evidence of BEFORE. Madrasatul Islah is one of the oldest seminaries in UP. Started Improved by Islamic scholars of note Shibli Nomani and Hamiduddin Farahi. Produced notable scholars such as Wahiduddin Khan and Amin Ahsan Islahi. Discussed in Government of India text Centres of Islamic Learning in India. Important as an institution associated with the modernisation of Muslim education in early 20th Century South Asia (see p.131 of Mohammad Sharif Khan's Education, religion, and the modern age). Meets ORG. AfD is not cleanup. --Goldsztajn (talk) 18:04, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Keep Speedy Keep,The seminary 112 years old and its foundation was laid by a notable muhaddith, Mian Asghar Hussain Deobandi along with other ulama. Many notable Muslim ulama served the seminary and I have added a number of references for the betterment of article. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 01:00, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Keep Citations added to prove notability--Irshadpp (talk) 11:24, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
- Wrong not started by Shibli Nomani and Hamiduddin Farahi.But by Maulana Muhammed Shafi and Maulana Abual Asad.[1] See page 37.Delete only one article in Indian express and mere one mention in each book fails WP:GNG.122.174.30.172 (talk) 14:17, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Thanks for the correction, but that actually reinforces my earlier point even further, since it links more notables to the school. Rechecking the source (p.131) I misinterpreted developed as founding. So we have two notable scholars involved in its improvement/redevelopment (Shibli Nomani and Hamiduddin Farahi). In terms who actually who founded the school, this seems more complex. "Abdul Ahad" (Servant of G-d) - not Abual Asad - is a relatively common given name and could refer to different persons which is not clear. With regard to Muhammad Shafi, I presume this is not Mian Muhammad Shafi, but another person with a similar name. However, further research (p.76) shows that the school's foundation was laid by Mian Asghar Hussain Deobandi and that the Muhammad Shafi referred to in this case was also the founder of Anjunwa-i-Islahul Muslimin. What is of concern here, however, is that this is another case of a notable institution or person related to Deobandi Islam being sent to AfD. --Goldsztajn (talk) 18:41, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
- Comment, (Dr. Syed Jameel Hussain. Tazkirah Hazrat Miyan Saheb (in Urdu). Madrasa Islamia Asgharia, Deoband.} also mentions Mian Asghar Hussain Deobandi as the one who laid foundation stone of this madrassa. I have used the same reference on page about Mian Asghar's article. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 22:40, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 02:59, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: Enough Citations have been added to the article and its notability is clearly proven. Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 17:38, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Goldsztajn seems to have established a WP:THREE basis notability; and I'm pretty sure we could serve up more quality references if necessary.Djm-leighpark (talk) 10:34, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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