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SamHolt6 (talk) 21:37, 22 September 2019 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Bedrock Industries (September 23)
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Dennis Bratland (talk) 18:38, 24 September 2019 (UTC) - Usually when I see whole paragraphs lifted directly from copyrighted sources, the same editor has been copy-pasting on other articles, so I checked some of your recent edits. There don't seem to be other violations, though you do lean on direct quotes perhaps more than is ideal. I'm not sure why you chose to copy content wholesale in this case, because you seem to be aware that isn't allowed. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 19:07, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- This misunderstanding by @Dennis Bratland: has been dealt with on the relevant article talk page. Magnovvig (talk) 19:41, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Supreme Court of Brunei Darussalam
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October 2019
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Don't accuse politicians of trying to "thwart" Brexit. Espically given that the Letwin ammendment did nothing of the sort. He actually intends to vote in favour of the deal. Please also note that including quotations from clear non neutral sources also violates the afore mentioned policy. Thank you,
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- @SSSB: your last full sentence is nonsense. Although I disagree with your deletion of the word "thwart", I have amended the language to which you object. Magnovvig (talk) 19:11, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
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Ways to improve China–Arab States Cooperation Forum
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- I reverted your move because there is no article for Sergei Romanovich (industrialist), per MOS:DABRED. If you think that the individual is notable, please create the page at Draft:Sergei Romanovich (industrialist) (or Draft:Sergey Romanovich, based on your edit to Economy of Belarus) and move it though the WP:AfC process. You may also consider using {{interlanguage link}} if there is an article in another language that you need to link to, rather than linking to the wrong person through the existing redirect to the footballer. —Ost (talk) 15:07, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Alibaba Foundation
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Hendrik Streeck Coronavirus research April Fools joke
editTalk:Hendrik_Streeck#Coronavirus_research_April_Fools_joke Ncpie (talk) 07:06, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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Neil Ferguson
editI'm very concerned about your use of sources in Neil Ferguson (epidemiologist). It seems to me to be demonstrating a clear POV hostile to the article's subject.
- I'm very concerned about your use of this forum for browbeating me.
- In this edit you misquoted the source by substituting "One of Ferguson's models predicted that 65,000 people would die from swine flu" for the source's "one of Ferguson's models predicted 65,000 people could die from the Swine Flu". There's a very clear difference in meaning in your edit.
- In this instance, there are no quotes on wiki, and wikipedians are somewhat free to interpolate. The model influenced policy, did it not? That is why the House of Lords had their post-factum inquiry. Or do I mistake their thrust. The model itself was taken from "can die" to "will die" somewhere between abstract theory and dictated policy and concrete practice. That is the reality of what transpired, and the raison d'être for the Lords inquiry. Please, let us not split hairs. Ferguson for a time was in the jump seat of the bus. Lesser men would not have survived a call that was wrong by *two orders of magnitude*.
- In the same edit, you asserted "This latterly caused some embarrassment to Health Secretary Matt Hancock during BBC Today on 16 April 2020 while the coronavirus pandemic raged in the UK." The source says nothing about "embarrassment", nor does it describe its context as "while the coronavirus pandemic raged in the UK." Your embellishment is clear editorialising.
- No it is not. It is an accurate picture of what transpired in the interview. Wiki forces us to summarise fifteen minutes of radio into one sentence. Are you naive or just a hack? What other reason is there to think that a radio host drags up some event from more than a decade earlier?
- In this edit, you selectively quoted Streek as saying "the authors assume that 50 percent of households where there is a case do not adhere to voluntary quarantine ..." The source actually quotes Streek as saying "In the - really good - model studies by Imperial College about the progress of the epidemic, the authors assume, for example, that 50 percent of households in which there is a case do not comply with the voluntary quarantine ..." Your deliberate omission of Streek's preface puts a spin on the quote you employed and places the paper in a much worse light that Streek's actual words did.
- It is standard practice in academic circles to couch language in a shit sandwich; I'm just cutting to the chase. Wiki forces us to brevity, remember? And it's Streeck, if I'm not mistaken.
- I note that having mentioned criticism of Ferguson's work, you failed to make use of the Business Insider source's quotes from Tim Colbourn and Stephen Griffin, which were favourable to Ferguson's study.
- This is an article about Ferguson, and that is a red herring. If I want to write about Tim Colbourn and Stephen Griffin or any other character who appears in the Business Insider article, I'll do so on their pages. What you seem to be saying here, if I'm not mistaken, is that you buy into Argumentum ad verecundiam.
This sort of one-sided editing is unacceptable, especially in a WP:BLP. Please ensure there is no repetition. --RexxS (talk) 20:43, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ferguson is a big boy and more than able to fend for himself. Remember that lesser men would not have survived a call that was wrong by *two orders of magnitude*. Only because you have more seniority in this forum than me and can use it to silence me, I will back off my edits on this subject so as to ensure that there is no repetition. Magnovvig (talk) 07:15, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- The convention on Wikipedia is not to intersperse your commentary inside another editor's post. Please fix that.
- I am not browbeating you, and your claiming that I am is a personal attack. Please strike your attack on me.
- Wikipedians are not free to put spin on sources. There is a big difference between a model that predicts that deaths could rise to 65,000, and a model that predicts that deaths would rise to 65,000. That is not splitting hairs, and your edit deliberately misrepresents the source.
"This latterly caused some embarrassment to Health Secretary Matt Hancock during BBC Today on 16 April 2020 while the coronavirus pandemic raged in the UK."
is not an accurate picture of what the Business Insider source states. Anyone can read the source you used to see that is the case. You embellished what you read there to reflect your own POV and that's not acceptable. Strike your personal attack on me there.- Steek's comment was not made "in academic circles", but in a newspaper interview. He was asked for an example of a model containing an untested assumption. Your selective quotation gives a very different interpretation of Streek's criticism of the report that he otherwise found "wirklich gut" – as is apparent from a full reading of the source.
- You are utterly mistaken. There's no red herring. Our article is indeed about Ferguson, but
"All encyclopedic content on Wikipedia must be written from a neutral point of view (NPOV), which means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic."
You cherry-picked the critical comment about one of his models from the Business Insider source, but didn't report that the source also contained quotes favourable to Ferguson's work. - If you don't demonstrate that you're prepared to abide by our policies on NPOV and NPA, I'll take steps to see that your editing privileges here are curtailed until you do. --RexxS (talk) 17:23, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
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Perhaps you would like to rearrange your comment when you have a moment? WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:57, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- @WhatamIdoing: thanks for your helpful suggestion. I was unaware of WP:TPG#INTERLEAVE and will take it under advisement in future but will leave as-is the comment you indicate. I have spent more than enough time with RexxS complaint which he filed in triplicate, forcing me also to file in triplicate, and to need to pay attention to his subtle changes in wording at every remove. Perhaps you will be alienated by my refusal but alea jacta est.
- Perhaps you can tell me why WikiProject_Medicine is interested in biographies, which would seem to fall outside its remit. Magnovvig (talk) 17:23, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- I proposed removing them last month. There wasn't enough support for it, and I'm probably not the best person to say why they should be included. I guess that one concern is probably that people sometimes use biographies as Wikipedia:Coatrack articles, in which the editor says that it's an article about a person, but then they "hang" a lot of Wikipedia:Biomedical information on them. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:42, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- I think once a BLP is flagged as in the scope of WikiProject Medicine, WikiProject COVID-19 and WikiProject Viruses, as well as flagged for COVID-19 General sanctions, it will attract attention from WPMED members. I'm sorry I ended up posting in three places, but the problem was brought to my attention at WT:MED and it involved content issues at Neil Ferguson (epidemiologist) and your behaviour as well. As I'm being kept very busy right now, I posted my complaint about your behaviour on your talk page, and then re-used it at the article talk so that the editors there were aware of the content concerns, as well as giving notice to the original complainant at WT:MED. I obviously altered it to address you in the second-person here, and to refer to you in the third-person elsewhere. I think you'll find that was the sum of the subtle changes involved. I've insisted on rearranging your interspersed comments at the other two venues, but I'll defer to your preferences on your own talk page. --RexxS (talk) 21:54, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- No, that was not the sum of the subtle changes involved and you know it. What is the problem with my behaviour? Do tell. How dare you touch my talk page comments. You seek to tilt the playing field to your advantage. That's not very gentlemanly of you, is it?
- I refuse to lower myself to your level.
- @RexxS: Magnovvig (talk) 03:39, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- I think once a BLP is flagged as in the scope of WikiProject Medicine, WikiProject COVID-19 and WikiProject Viruses, as well as flagged for COVID-19 General sanctions, it will attract attention from WPMED members. I'm sorry I ended up posting in three places, but the problem was brought to my attention at WT:MED and it involved content issues at Neil Ferguson (epidemiologist) and your behaviour as well. As I'm being kept very busy right now, I posted my complaint about your behaviour on your talk page, and then re-used it at the article talk so that the editors there were aware of the content concerns, as well as giving notice to the original complainant at WT:MED. I obviously altered it to address you in the second-person here, and to refer to you in the third-person elsewhere. I think you'll find that was the sum of the subtle changes involved. I've insisted on rearranging your interspersed comments at the other two venues, but I'll defer to your preferences on your own talk page. --RexxS (talk) 21:54, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- I proposed removing them last month. There wasn't enough support for it, and I'm probably not the best person to say why they should be included. I guess that one concern is probably that people sometimes use biographies as Wikipedia:Coatrack articles, in which the editor says that it's an article about a person, but then they "hang" a lot of Wikipedia:Biomedical information on them. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:42, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Category:People associated with the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic
editIn this edit you re-added the Category:PeopleOfficials associated with the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic with the edit summary restore cat; this is a new undiscussed cat; possible IP vandalism.
The parent category was discussed well over a month ago at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 March 20#Category:People associated with the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic as the IP user who deleted it from that page clearly indicated in their edit summary.
Please don't go throwing accusations of WP:vandalism about, when a moment's reflection would have shown you that it could not possibly be vandalism. --RexxS (talk) 18:52, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- @RexxS: Was it a "restore cat; this is a new undiscussed cat;" or not?
- You mischaracterise "People" as a parent cat of "Officials", since it no longer exists, it cannot be.
- I'm dismayed at the last clause in your last sentence. Please don't abuse my thought process.
- Magnovvig (talk) 05:13, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
You mischaracterise "People" as a parent cat of "Officials", since it no longer exists, it cannot be
That's just a non-sequitur. The concept of subcategories is independent of whether a particular category has been created or deleted. Categories of "officials" will always be subcategories of the equivalent categories of "people". In this case, the set of articles about 'officials associated with the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic' will be a part of the set of articles about 'people associated with the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic'. That's how we work out what a parent category is. If you don't believe that Category:Officials associated with the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic has the deleted Category:People associated with the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic as a parent category, ask yourself what its parent categories would be? It has to have some.- Alright, let me rephrase my final clause. The opening of WP:Vandalism reads like this:
The IP removed a category very similar to one that had recently been deleted after a CfD discussion, and linked to that discussion in their edit summary. The category the IP removed is now about to also be deleted as a result of a CfD discussion. Any assumption of good faith would lead to the conclusion that the removal was not "deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose". So I'll assert to you that no editor who has read and understood that policy could possibly conclude that the IP's action was vandalism. You will quickly find that irresponsibly accusing other editors of vandalism is regularly sanctioned. If you don't take my warning about that seriously, and adjust your 'thought process', you'll be heading into trouble the next time you improperly accuse another editor of vandalism. I hope that's clearer. --RexxS (talk) 19:00, 7 May 2020 (UTC)On Wikipedia, vandalism has a very specific meaning: editing (or other behavior) deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose, which is to create a free encyclopedia, in a variety of languages, presenting the sum of all human knowledge.
...
Even if misguided, willfully against consensus, or disruptive, any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia is not vandalism.
- Sorry @RexxS:, if a category no longer exists it can't be discussed. Yours is the non sequitur.
- Besides, that's a red herring. "Officials" is a **NEW** category. "People" was considered and rejected. So I formed "Officials" as a new category that would restrict the 'People' membership. See? I read the deletion logs and adapted my category to suit the past discussion. Wiki works a charm! The answer to your question of " what **ARE** its parent categories ? " is easy to discover: go to Category:COVID-19 pandemic and look around. Beside "Officials" you find "Organizations" and "Deaths". Its parent category is Category:COVID-19 pandemic. As I suggested in a separate contiguous thread, we might add "Scientists" and "Politicians" if the "Officials" gets too bulky. Do you understand me now?
- The IP was an anonymous editor who could have been anyone... 1 The IP was located in Korea. Normally, that means s/he may well have English as a Second Language... 2 I'll assert to you that because s/he chose to remain anonymous s/he could very well have been someone who wished harm to come to English language wikipedia. Haven't you read about Russian spies? Such behaviour has been known to exist... 3 If s/he did participate in the discussion around 'People' s/he could have been malevolent. In fact, if you go back through my logs, the person **has** revealed themselves because of human error. I won't divulge their identity here because it serves no purpose but to prolong an already boring debate... The solution to this problem is to ask all the IP editors to refrain from deleting Categories, or to bar IP editors from deleting Categories. The thing about anonymity is that mud can be thrown both ways. If they show themselves as named editors all the problems disappear. I don't like your threats and you can take that home to chew on it. Why do you take up the standard of an anonymous IP? Are you related? Magnovvig (talk) 19:43, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- Of course you can discuss a deleted category. Stop gaslighting.
- If you make a category and it's deleted via a CfD, you shouldn't be looking for ways to circumvent that consensus because that just wastes the community's time. Your new effort is going to be deleted on the just the same grounds ("far too unspecific") as its parent. The same will happen for any other ill-defined group having an ill-defined connection with COVID-19. If you continue to waste editors' time, you'll find yourself in trouble.
- Neither I no any other admin care where the IP geolocates to. You must consider the edit, not your preconceptions of the editor. IP editors have the same editing rights as unconfirmed registered editors, and they have the same expectation for fair treatment as any other editor. Stop spouting your conspiracy theories and quit insulting IPs. They are entitled to remove content that shouldn't be there; they are entitled to edit anonymously. This isn't a debate: it's a warning from an uninvolved admin. You either heed the warnings and abide by the community's conventions and expectations, or your editing privileges here will be coming to an end. --RexxS (talk) 20:42, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- There you go again. They are **not** "preconceptions". They are if anything "post-conceptions". Your mind is playing tricks on you. From a mistaken word you go on to blather and spout ad nauseam about a tempest in a teakettle. "conspiracy theories" indeed: there can be no conspiracy of one. The substitution of "Officials" for "People" was legit and you are being a bore when you insist that a category has life when you yourself were a party that killed it. You **are** involved: you are the administrator who has a bee under his bonnet about me. Just look at my talk page. You have had it in for me for two weeks now. Go find someone else to hoodwink. Magnovvig (talk) 03:29, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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Isolated protein
editHi, as far as I could tell the article Isolated protein was based on a misunderstanding, the cited article seemed to just be discussing proteins that have been isolated, so I've redirected the article to Protein isolate. I've also redirected Antenna protein to Light-harvesting complexes of green plants because they seem to be about the same thing. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:39, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello @Þjarkur:. I am no expert on plant photosynthesis. However, the Protein isolate page to which you redirected the Isolated protein actually discusses Protein purification, a completely artificial synthetic lab process. I believe that if you read the paper that I located on pubmed and to which I referred in the original Isolated protein wiki article, you will find that the authors discuss photosynthesis as a natural process in plants. These are two very different topics, and I believe they should be discussed separately. Magnovvig (talk) 14:59, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Þjarkur: For the record, I believe your second edit, in which you #REDIRECT Antenna protein into Light-harvesting complexes of green plants (LHCGP) is correct. I wonder if you could find a way to mention in the journal article that was on the original Antenna protein wiki, rather than delete and destroy my work. Magnovvig (talk) 15:05, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- The paper only discusses the chemistry of artificially isolated photosynthesis complexes (preparation shown in the cited works). Protein isolates are discusses in the intro of the article protein purification, I don't think isolated proteins exist in nature. There wasn't any content to merge from the Antenna protein article, but of course it would be interesting to summarize that paper there since it discusses the evolution of the protein. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:58, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you @Þjarkur: Magnovvig (talk) 16:13, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- The paper only discusses the chemistry of artificially isolated photosynthesis complexes (preparation shown in the cited works). Protein isolates are discusses in the intro of the article protein purification, I don't think isolated proteins exist in nature. There wasn't any content to merge from the Antenna protein article, but of course it would be interesting to summarize that paper there since it discusses the evolution of the protein. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:58, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Machine translations
editPlease do not create articles with raw computer-translated text, as you did at Yupo (manufacturer). Consensus is that rough translations are worse than having no article at all on the subject, and Wikipedia editors have spent a lot of time cleaning up such texts. Next time, draft the article in userspace or draft space to copyedit all of the English before creating it. Thank you, Passengerpigeon (talk) 06:46, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Passengerpigeon: oh is there an official guidance on that? I'm surprised at your remark. Magnovvig (talk) 10:24, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- There's not an official guidance so much as consensus against making edits that other people have to spend lots of time cleaning up (assuming you don't intend to clean up the machine translation yourself, which should ideally be done in draftspace), and machine translations were established as undesirable edits in this discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Passengerpigeon (talk • contribs) 10:32, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Passengerpigeon: thanks for the pointer to this discussion, of which I was unaware. My thought process was to post the machine translation into mainspace and then to spend a week improving it, along with other editors who are surprised by its poor state. If I can't draft in other editors like this, what good is wikipedia, really? ;) Magnovvig (talk) 10:49, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- I understand, but perhaps you could instead create it in draftspace and then alert interested editors to the article through the relevant WikiProject (Japan or Companies, in this case). Passengerpigeon (talk) 10:58, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Passengerpigeon: I just cleaned it up some more. In the meantime, my technique worked! Another editor not from WikiProject Japan or Companies (to my knowledge) helped shoehorn it in to shape. :) Magnovvig (talk) 11:12, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- I understand, but perhaps you could instead create it in draftspace and then alert interested editors to the article through the relevant WikiProject (Japan or Companies, in this case). Passengerpigeon (talk) 10:58, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Passengerpigeon: thanks for the pointer to this discussion, of which I was unaware. My thought process was to post the machine translation into mainspace and then to spend a week improving it, along with other editors who are surprised by its poor state. If I can't draft in other editors like this, what good is wikipedia, really? ;) Magnovvig (talk) 10:49, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- There's not an official guidance so much as consensus against making edits that other people have to spend lots of time cleaning up (assuming you don't intend to clean up the machine translation yourself, which should ideally be done in draftspace), and machine translations were established as undesirable edits in this discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Passengerpigeon (talk • contribs) 10:32, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Michael Hood
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- @Dormskirk: FYI your edits make no sense. Did you not read the tags that I sent? If you like we can just strip Michael Hood of his chestful of medals. Are you that unfriendly to the armed services? I puzzle at your behaviour, to put it very mildly. Magnovvig (talk) 10:21, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Please read WP:NPA. Some of us are simply ensuring that material which clearly breaches WP:BLP is removed as required by the guideline. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:33, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Hi @Pinchme123: I don't see how ARBAPDS applies to Canadian or Hong Kong articles or sections. The ARBAPDS seems to relate to American politics, although even that is unclear. I am able to refrain from touching the section on the United States camps, and thus to abide by this policy (misplaced though it seems to be). Would that work for you? I doubt the global reach of this particular policy. Magnovvig (talk) 06:23, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Given that the sanctions are currently applied to the entire article as specified in the notice, I'm not sure why you question even their applicability to the U.S. portion. No matter, our conversation is specifically about your additions to the list. They have no basis in the sources provided - no references to "concentration camps" or "internment" whatsoever - and I am therefore requesting you revert them and seek consensus for their inclusion via the talk page. If you are unwilling to do this, I will remove them later today myself. --Pinchme123 (talk) 17:05, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi @Pinchme123: I don't see how ARBAPDS applies to Canadian or Hong Kong articles or sections. The ARBAPDS seems to relate to American politics, although even that is unclear. I am able to refrain from touching the section on the United States camps, and thus to abide by this policy (misplaced though it seems to be). Would that work for you? I doubt the global reach of this particular policy. Magnovvig (talk) 06:23, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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Hong Kong national security law page moves
editHi there, you've recently been moving the Hong Kong national security law article without discussing it. The first move you did was to an inaccurate title. The latest one, which I haven't undone, is also inaccurate (but less so): it should have 'law' in the title since none of the bills have been called 'Hong Kong national security', and covers a wider scope than just a list of bills. In any case, it still seems more appropriate to use the common name of the general legislation that all the bills and proposals are about.
These moves also shouldn't have been made without discussion (WP:Requested moves), especially with a current article that is also controversial. So I'm going to move it back, and you should open a discussion if you think there's a better title. From the photos on your user page, you seem to be around the LegCo a lot, so perhaps you can provide sources and a good argument for moving the article. Kingsif (talk) 21:32, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your feedback, @Kingsif:. As I understand it, before a law becomes a law it is a bill. Bills becomes law when they are passed through the legislature. As I understand it, no national security law exists in Hong Kong. That's what the controversy is all about. We're now in the bill phase. It does everyone harm to talk about a law which doesn't exist yet. Wiki needs to reflect reality, to tell it as it is. Is this clear now? I made the first move to tighten the wordy title. I made the second move to fix your mistake. FWIW, those are photos I gathered from wikimedia (with my own categorisation). Magnovvig (talk) 21:50, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- See, the article would still exist if there were no bills. It could give the background and controversy of just proposals and political back-and-forth. What would it be called then? Hong Kong national security theory? No, it's still about the theory of the law, even if it doesn't exist. And the way you describe
We're now in the bill phase
suggests you would want to rename the article again when the law was made - no, bills and laws get separate articles. There also isn't yet an actual 2020 bill, and the 2003 bill does have its own article. So using 'bill' is just wrong and confusing. Because of the background etc. in this article, the scope is broad enough that it should just have a generic title. Kingsif (talk) 22:08, 10 June 2020 (UTC)- @Kingsif:
See, the article would still exist if there were no bills.
- Actually, no. page didn't exist until 22 May 2020. You premise is mistaken, so I have difficulty with everything else you've written. You're flying off into barking madness with your
theory
comment. The bill hasn't yet been released, but rest assured, the bureaucrats *are* working on it, because the NPCSC said to. - Now, I think you will agree that the National Security (Legislative Provisions) Bill 2003 (NSLP Bill 2003) is appropriately entitled, because it never got out of LegCo. Having made the transition from imagined bill to drafted bill to live bill, it remains forevermore a dead bill. If the 2003 dead bill is known to wiki readers as the NSLP Bill 2003, why confuse readers of the Hong Kong national security law wiki with the mistaken title "law"? A law is a different animal than a bill, and wiki should not be bashful or economical with the truth, or afraid of the truth either.
- Side note: have you declared your interest (pecuniary or otherwise) in this topic? For the record, I write to satisfy a purely personal and benelovent motive. Magnovvig (talk) 05:21, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- It didn't exist until recently, but given the amount of coverage in news and political analysis of what a national security law could be, the article could exist even without any bills. I agree that the 2003 bill article is titled correctly, because that is the actual name of the actual bill. The history of debate of a prospective law is not a bill, surely you understand that. As for my interest: I saw the two articles (law and the 2020 NPC decision) being conflated in current events, and went and did a lot of research to get my head around it. I know of the protest movements from reviewing those articles, and so had already researched structure of the legislature in Hong Kong. My interest is keeping everything accurate and in the appropriate place. Kingsif (talk) 05:26, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- You have now made a series of bad edits, and left this edit reason that speaks to an ego
Get the facts right and the article flows from there. It is strange that this article didn't have a solid foundation from its inception on 22 May until 11 June when I fixed it for you.
Insulting, passive-aggressive, and narcissistic in two sentences. Go read Wikipedia:Etiquette now (seriously, I may be short in some of my comments, but that edit reason is beyond the pail). I strongly encourage you to have a more open attitude and communicate about edits on the talk page before doing anything, since your only major contribution has been to move the article to inaccurate titles and to add an unsourced opinion about CCP opportunism. Kingsif (talk) 05:58, 11 June 2020 (UTC)- Come on @Kingsif: if you can't understand a clear provocation to you and only you, you need to back off. FYI, the proper usage for
beyond the pail
is beyond the pale. You are in the wrong on mythe article to inaccurate titles
as I have explained to you here above in agonizing detail. I invite you to detail the accusation: why do you use plural form? - The entire headnote section of Hong Kong national security law was bereft of any substantial reference to accepted and reputable sources before this edit. I specifically disliked the unreferenced sentence "Both the 2003 and 2020 attempts at legislation occurred during a coronavirus outbreak that originated in China, which negatively impacted the response to the proposals." so I changed it to "Both the 2003 and 2020 attempts at legislation occurred during a coronavirus outbreak that originated in China, which speaks to CCP opportunism." because I knew that it would get your attention and thereby receive your attention. I trust that the headnote section will be improved by this contretemps. Magnovvig (talk) 06:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- Come on @Kingsif: if you can't understand a clear provocation to you and only you, you need to back off. FYI, the proper usage for
- See, the article would still exist if there were no bills. It could give the background and controversy of just proposals and political back-and-forth. What would it be called then? Hong Kong national security theory? No, it's still about the theory of the law, even if it doesn't exist. And the way you describe
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Kingsif (talk) 07:13, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, and Kingsif doesn't come out of it smelling like roses.
For your information, Hong Kong national security law has been move protected for one week. This means that for the time being, only administrators can move the article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- Sadly, @Cwmhiraeth: your move protection work means wiki is inaccurate and wiki misleads readers. And this on a topical and significant issue. One would think that an administrator with roots in the UK saw a discrepancy between bill and law. Magnovvig (talk) 22:08, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- It's only a standard process to avoid having to block editors (that would be a last resort) attempting to persuade them to seek WP:CONSENSUS (see WP:MOVP for more information). It's also possible to initiate a more formal move discussion (WP:RM#CM has already been mentioned at the article's talk page). —PaleoNeonate – 20:05, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
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- See [User_talk:Neutrality#WP:ONUS_and_The_Room_Where_It_Happened other editor's page] where I address this curious remark. Magnovvig (talk) 15:04, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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editHello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752, did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 03:51, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- @M Imtiaz: yes, I think you made a mistake. All information on wiki is subject to citation. Unreferenced material may be deleted. I am surprised that you are unfamiliar with this policy. I will continue to make this edit until the unreferenced material is either referenced or deleted. Thank you for your productive contributions, one of which this wasn't. 08:03, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- Here's one source cited later in the article, as I'm sure you would have noticed if you had actually read the article in question. I'm sure you'll find some weird reason to revert this, too, but maybe familiarise yourself with WP:TE before doing so. Best, M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 17:11, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- Great news, @M Imtiaz:! I'm glad you read and agree with WP:REFB, and you won't mind adding the reference to the paragraph in question. Magnovvig (talk) 19:00, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- Here's one source cited later in the article, as I'm sure you would have noticed if you had actually read the article in question. I'm sure you'll find some weird reason to revert this, too, but maybe familiarise yourself with WP:TE before doing so. Best, M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 17:11, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
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Supreme Council (Lebanon) moved to draftspace
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- Hi @Sphilbrick: you omitted to explain exactly why this edit was a copyvio. Please refer to the source usatoday article, not a copy in the pratt tribune. I am happy to discuss copyright violations so that together we can move towards a joint statement that reflects the usatoday article in question. If you want to remove some of the quoted material, let's work towards that. Is that a suitable midway point for you? I'm restoring the deleted material for you to prune, not chop. Magnovvig (talk) 19:24, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Magnovvig, It took me sometime to track down the entry in the copy patrol tool, which is not your problem, it appears to be my problem. Even though I addressed this, I apparently forgot to check it off in the tool and someone else checked it off. In any event I found it.
- It wasn't handled the way I would normally handle such a situation. My guess is I was moving a little too fast and missed that the matching material was in quotes. While I do think those quotes are on the long side, Wikipedia:Quotations (admittedly not a policy or guideline) talks about "brief excerpt", and it is always been my action as an editor when introducing a quote, to make it as short as possible. When I am doing copyright issue review, I normally skip quoted material unless it's truly egregious such as multiple pages and leave it for editors to assess. It's clear I missed the fact that the material was in quotes. I've undone my revision deletion. For what it's worth, the material at Pratt seems to be identical to the material at USA Today so that's not an issue. I'll leave it to you and other editors to determine whether the quotes are too long or acceptable. Feel free to restore if they are not back in the article. Sorry. I'm trying to do too much, and may need to slow down a bit. S Philbrick(Talk) 20:33, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hi @Sphilbrick:, thanks for this reply. I'm glad that we have come to an agreement on the Hasbro page, where I have reduced the length of the quotes as you suggest. Hopefully the revised text is also more acceptable to the wider community. Magnovvig (talk) 02:25, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Magnovvig, Sounds good thanks, and sorry for the bull in a china shop reversion. S Philbrick(Talk) 16:21, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hi @Sphilbrick:, thanks for this reply. I'm glad that we have come to an agreement on the Hasbro page, where I have reduced the length of the quotes as you suggest. Hopefully the revised text is also more acceptable to the wider community. Magnovvig (talk) 02:25, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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- @John B123: your move of this article to draftspace appears to be unhelpful. Please reconsider your activities in light of the source I just added and help to revive this article to the mainspace. Magnovvig (talk) 05:01, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hi. It is a fundamental requirement that all content is verifiable from reliable sources, therefore references are required. I note you have submitted the article for AfC review. As I'm not an AfC reviewer, it would be inappropriate for me to interfere with that process. --John B123 (talk) 17:33, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
Ritchie333 restores Timothy Grayson to mainspace, was Speedy deletion nomination of Timothy Grayson
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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Timothy Grayson for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.
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- Hello @CentreLeftRight: thanks for your helpful deletion request. I wanted to let you know that another administrator, @Ritchie333: here within two days helpfully restored the page to mainspace: "decline A7 per WP:ATD-R". Thanks for your helpful patrolling. Together we can make wiki stronger and more helpful! Magnovvig (talk) 01:41, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Hi @Liz: the category would be unempty were someone like you to approve Draft:GeneOne Life Science. Magnovvig (talk) 20:00, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Hi @Doomsdayer520: thanks for the remark. I took the opportunity to add a pubmed citation. I hope you are satisfied with the results. Magnovvig (talk) 04:29, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Canadian Veal Association moved to draftspace
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Hello from COI editor
editHello Magnovvig,
My name is Jeffrey Krasner. I am a former journalist (Boston Globe, Wall Street Journal) and covered biotechnology and healthcare, and also wrote about cars and other interesting things. I do some consulting for biotechnology companies, and I am helping David Lucchino, CEO of Frequency Therapeutics, improve his page. I am being paid for this.
I have used the COI template and have reached out to the volunteer community to make some updates to Lucchino's page, but haven't received any feedback. At this point, I'm uncomfortable making any additional changes without input from a volunteer editor.
I've noticed that you have contributed many improvements to life science and company pages. I'm hoping you might have a moment to look at the changes that I have made, and give me your feedback to ensure they are accurate and meet Wikipedia standards. I'm hoping you might be able to help with future edits.
I am happy to help you with any edits. I have a good knowledge of the Boston biopharma and medtech scene and would be happy to help you with any edits where I don't have a conflict. Thanks in advance.JeffreyKrasner —Preceding undated comment added 21:56, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hello @JeffreyKrasner:. Thanks for the unexpected encouragement. Please note that I have exactly zero "pull" on this site, and you might be better off to ask your question to an administrator, which I am not. I'm happy to help but not just now. Can you remind me in a few days if I forget to answer you in detail? Lucchino is an impressive man, but one detects something amiss in his bio. It's difficult to put a finger on it, because you are such a polished writer. I'd almost say that it reads like a resume, not a wiki. Too much detail: let the readers dig in the reference material if they care enough... I'd take the material about the "frequency" ear product and put it in a wiki for the manufacturer. Magnovvig (talk) 05:34, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
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- @Mccapra: Wow! how pleasant it is to be recognized with a bowl of strawberries for my work on wiki. This is the first time that my talk page has ever contained a reward! Usually it only contains criticism and refuse. You have made my day. :) Magnovvig (talk) 12:14, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
September 2020
editPlease do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Phases of clinical research. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Strange edit. Don't write your opinions into medical content on Wikipedia. Don't write content unless supportable by a reliable source, preferably a WP:MEDRS review. Zefr (talk) 20:09, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hi @Zefr: I'm glad you noticed my edit and moved to delete it. In general, when I decline to footnote a sentence, it contains sufficient wiki links to other articles that substantiate my claim, as this one did to the novel Adaptive design (medicine) (AD) page. I needed to create the AD page because of a black hole in the WikiProject Medicine. I am surprised that you hadn't heard previously of AD, and glad of your significant contributions to the AD page, as well as the COVID-19 vaccine edit you made linking that page to the AD page. Would you care to retract your claim that I "add original research or novel syntheses of published material to article" and change the tone of your commentary in light of this communication?
- I wouldn't trust a publication in the J Biosciences which has an impact factor too low (1.6) to be trusted. That statement you used and the source (added after my first revert) are too general and misrepresent the facts. Animal studies are widely used in development of possible COVID-19 vaccines and drugs - there may be a few exceptions where programs are on fast-track, but the majority are testing new compounds in animals. It's a topic that doesn't belong in the Phases of clinical research article. Btw, I am the editor who first added "adaptive design" content to COVID-19 vaccine and COVID-19 drug development, and there are good WP:MEDRS reviews on adaptive design for Phase II-III clinical trials. Editors work on countless different Wikipedia articles, as I do (patrolling thousands), so it doesn't fall into the responsibility of one editor to fill in a "black hole". I'm glad you started the Adaptive design article, and will follow it closely. Zefr (talk) 15:47, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Zefr: Impact factor too low "to be trusted" seems a bit dodgy to me, like moving goalposts. I'm disappointed that you failed to retract although given ample opportunity. It does belong in the Phases of clinical research if it is novel and a departure from previously accepted practice. Magnovvig (talk) 16:42, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- Simple - find a WP:MEDREV review in a high-quality journal to support the statement. But use of the words, "decided", "stampede", and "forgone" are the original research statements you used for which there is no review evidence to verify; WP:V. Zefr (talk) 16:52, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Zefr: I stand behind my usage. There is no original research, read the pubmed article. If you want to soften my words, go right ahead. Magnovvig (talk) 17:14, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- Simple - find a WP:MEDREV review in a high-quality journal to support the statement. But use of the words, "decided", "stampede", and "forgone" are the original research statements you used for which there is no review evidence to verify; WP:V. Zefr (talk) 16:52, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Zefr: Impact factor too low "to be trusted" seems a bit dodgy to me, like moving goalposts. I'm disappointed that you failed to retract although given ample opportunity. It does belong in the Phases of clinical research if it is novel and a departure from previously accepted practice. Magnovvig (talk) 16:42, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- I wouldn't trust a publication in the J Biosciences which has an impact factor too low (1.6) to be trusted. That statement you used and the source (added after my first revert) are too general and misrepresent the facts. Animal studies are widely used in development of possible COVID-19 vaccines and drugs - there may be a few exceptions where programs are on fast-track, but the majority are testing new compounds in animals. It's a topic that doesn't belong in the Phases of clinical research article. Btw, I am the editor who first added "adaptive design" content to COVID-19 vaccine and COVID-19 drug development, and there are good WP:MEDRS reviews on adaptive design for Phase II-III clinical trials. Editors work on countless different Wikipedia articles, as I do (patrolling thousands), so it doesn't fall into the responsibility of one editor to fill in a "black hole". I'm glad you started the Adaptive design article, and will follow it closely. Zefr (talk) 15:47, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- Additionally, I wonder if you might help the article Draft:Andrew Pollard (vaccinologist) move out of the AfC draftspace, to which it was condemned by another overhasty administrator. Thanks in advance! Magnovvig (talk) 10:12, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- Not interested for now. Zefr (talk) 15:47, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
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Andrew Pollard (vaccinologist) moved to draftspace
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- Hi @DGG: thanks for the notice about the Andrew Pollard page. I have added several references as you suggest, and submitted it to the AfC review board. Hopefully you will see the worth of the article and approve it there soon. Magnovvig (talk) 09:44, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- It wpuld also help if you added a list of his 4 or 5 most noted papers. I will let someone else review it. DGG ( talk ) 23:48, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- Duly noted, @DGG: and with thanks. Can you suggest another interested reviewer to help revive the article into mainspace? Magnovvig (talk) 02:57, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- we usually do reviews at random. I recognize there is some immediate interest in the subject, and if nobody responds with a week or two after you have added references and resubmitted it, get in touch with me again on my user talk page. DGG ( talk ) 04:32, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Duly noted, @DGG: and with thanks. Can you suggest another interested reviewer to help revive the article into mainspace? Magnovvig (talk) 02:57, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- It wpuld also help if you added a list of his 4 or 5 most noted papers. I will let someone else review it. DGG ( talk ) 23:48, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hi @DGG: I haven't had time to add AP's significant papers yet, but I have discovered that Pollard sits on the WHO SAGE body. I would argue that this single fact outweighs any benefit to his reputation afforded by mere papers, and would kindly ask you soon to restore his page to mainspace. Magnovvig (talk) 03:26, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
- checking .... DGG ( talk ) 05:48, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hi @DGG: oops I forgot yesterday afternoon to inform you that the Pollard article had been moved back to mainspace by another person yesterday afternoon. Sorry about that. Thanks anyhow. Magnovvig (talk) 07:46, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- checking .... DGG ( talk ) 05:48, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Hello @JeffreyKrasner:. Thanks for your pleasant correspondence. At the outset I must state that I have no experience with this type of COI activity so you get what you pay for, which is SFA. I'd be happy to help within these confines. I would imagine that the best place for you to start with the FT page is in your User:JeffreyKrasner/sandbox. Ping me when you've polished the sandbox article and I'll take a gander. Magnovvig (talk) 03:08, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
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- @Walter Görlitz: Thanks for your patrol of the Canadian covid timeline page. When I write for wiki, I don't limit myself to one particular parish as I find that that would hamper my productivity. I see and I'm glad you have automated scripts for prettifying MOS:DATEFORMAT imperfections. That's a great example of teamwork in action! Magnovvig (talk) 06:30, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
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Nevertheless, you must read WP:MEDRS and understand that biomedical claims have to be supported by secondary sources. You must not reinstate content that has been challenged by legitimate reversion in articles under discretionary sanctions. You must gain consensus on the article talk page for any reinstatement. If you breach policy and guidelines again on this page, or fail to adhere to the highest standards of behaviour in you interactions with other editors, I will apply a discretionary sanction against you which is likely to be for a far longer period. If you don't understand any part of this warning, please ask for clarification. --RexxS (talk) 15:38, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- @RexxS: It would be helpful if Administrator were to itemize the so-called "disruptive edits" in question, so Editor can understand the sanctions. Otherwise, the sanction procedure is simply an arbitrary and violent procedure that will lead to few good results. If Editor wishes to appeal the block on substantive terms Editor must be given itemized reasons by Administrator. This is standard practice in UK and US disciplinary procedure... Can Administrator justify the length of the block? Why is it in this case 31 hours, and not 30.5 hours, 10*pi hours or 24 hours? How has Administrator come to arrive at this particular duration? Magnovvig (talk) 09:18, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ivermectin&diff=994158587&oldid=993702751&diffmode=source
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ivermectin&diff=994364848&oldid=994298706&diffmode=source
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ivermectin&diff=994376548&oldid=994365325&diffmode=source
- There is nothing "so-called" about repeatedly inserting the same challenged content into an article under general sanctions. Your lack of understanding of reliable sourcing and WP:BATTLEGROUND attitude at Talk:Ivermectin compound the problem. You only need to understand what I wrote to you in my post above to see what changes you need to make for the future. --RexxS (talk) 18:57, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- RexxS you misunderstand me. Elsewhere this issue had been mischaracterized by Alexbrn. I was told by him to go to WP:MEDRS, which is a catch-all page for various ills, when WP:MEDDEF would have relieved me from my misdirection. Again, *initially* on this page you have no mention of *why* you feel "disruptive edits" have been made by me. How does this behaviour help? If you don't tell me, how am I supposed to know? I am not a mind reader... The edit in question was a large-scale rewrite and included the claim in the intro ""A five day course of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 may reduce the duration of the illness". Why then did Alexbrn not simply remove that sentence and tag WP:MEDDEF as a reminder in his edit summary (as he is free to do, and would have been friendly to do!) rather than reverting all 1,160 bytes of my edit? It seems to me that Alexbrn needs to have his administrator privileges temporarily revoked so that he learns (by being reduced to the status of mere contributor) to be gentle and less power-mad with others. Magnovvig (talk) 08:15, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Edit-warring Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Canada
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- As I indicate to you here, the onus is on you to discuss the matter on the talk page. You have initiated the edit war. Magnovvig (talk) 21:47, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Thank you, this is why I started discussion. The article has now been fully protected anyway. I have pinged other frequent editors on the subject to generate discussion instead of engaging in edit warring. CaffeinAddict (talk) 23:33, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, RexxS, for your observation that "trying to force change into an article when challenged is not a good means of improving articles." This is one matter where you and I seem to be in complete agreement. And I am delighted to participate in the talk page, and satisfied that CaffeinAddict has been told by another person more senior than him that this incident can be only with superhuman difficulty characterised as an "Edit war". Might I suggest that the title on that page (freely chosen by junior) now be amended in order not to tar junior with "baseless claim", "utter fabrication" and "feverish invention". Magnovvig (talk) 07:47, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Regardless of who initiates a edit-war, on pages under discretionary sanctions I am quite prepared to sanction all of the participants, whether they breach a bright-line 3RR or not. Can I strongly recommend that the moment any editor reverts another's recent edit on one of these pages, they immediately open a talk page discussion, please? and that the reverted editor refrains from repeating their initial edit until some agreement is found on the talk page. I understand it slows things down, but there is no deadline, and trying to force change into an article when challenged is not a good means of improving articles. --RexxS (talk) 22:59, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
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- I have moved the article back to main space. ... discospinster talk 18:02, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for your great help, discospinster. Magnovvig (talk) 19:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- I have moved the article back to main space. ... discospinster talk 18:02, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
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Edit warring again
editFor the second time in the last few days, you are again trying to force an edit about COVID-19, inserting unreliable sources, at both Tozinameran and Polyethylene glycol i.e. citing PMID 33320974, an editorial. You have reverted my removal of non-MEDRS[1] without any discussion or sign of consensus. I strongly suggest you self-revert. Alexbrn (talk) 15:07, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, I see you've just continued on editing without responding to this. I am pinging DMacks and RexxS - the admins who commented on the last incident at Talk:Ivermectin - to assess the situation. Alexbrn (talk) 16:35, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Alexbrn I disagree with your assessment of "edit warring again". The Tozinameran modification which set you off in a tizzy was this one here. I purposely limited this contribution to a WP:MEDRS source, and the Canadian regulator (health government) source. So it was not an edit war. *I took into account your complaint* and tried to find a middle ground. This edit cannot be termed as you did. Your attempt to tag me with an epithet is distasteful and I hope you will apologize. Magnovvig (talk) 17:21, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Magnovvig I'm not sure what you mean about "tizzy" and "epithet". I removed the non-MEDRS source and you put it right back (see my diff), which is behaviour against the guidance of the general sanctions of which you are aware. If for some reason you felt WP:MEDRS didn't apply here, you should have discussed the matter rather than simply restoring the material. Alexbrn (talk) 17:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not going to argue with you on this, Magnovvig. The source https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/all.14711 is an editorial and the source https://www.gponline.com/mhra-warning-allergic-reactions-nhs-staff-given-covid-19-vaccine/article/1702322 is a news report. I don't think you're making an effort to understand MEDRS, and you are re-instating a challenged source without going to the article talk page. I'm blocking you for a week for the disruption you have caused. --RexxS (talk) 18:03, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Alexbrn if you check the edit logs, I expanded the reference via Citation Bot and by that means attempted to indicate to all and sundry (including you) that the source indeed was valid under WP:MEDRS. I'm trying to get you to climb down because your claims that I engaged in an "edit war again" cannot be substantiated. Magnovvig (talk) 18:06, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Magnovvig I'm not sure what you mean about "tizzy" and "epithet". I removed the non-MEDRS source and you put it right back (see my diff), which is behaviour against the guidance of the general sanctions of which you are aware. If for some reason you felt WP:MEDRS didn't apply here, you should have discussed the matter rather than simply restoring the material. Alexbrn (talk) 17:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
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The assessment of "edit warring again" results, I think, from my Tozinameran modification: here.
Alexbrn is angry about this edit which sought to remove material about the recent problems with anaphylactic reactions to Tozinameran.
Alexbrn then obtained the approval of RexxS for this block. RexxS notes that s/he "blocked Magnovvig with an expiration time of 1 week (account creation blocked) (Disruptive editing - reinserting non-MEDRS sources)". So we know that the problem is something to do with MEDRS.
I was surprised that Alexbrn would remove a source found on Pubmed (which states the fact that people suffered anaphylactic reactions) under an edit log that quoted WP:MEDRS. Sources found on Pubmed are typically acceptable under WP:MEDRS. The fact itself seems incontrovertible. If we want to exclude reputable newspapers from reporting facts, ok, we can do that.
So I purposely limited this contribution to a WP:MEDRS source, which is in an accepted medical journal. What else can I do when the OP indicates that my prior contributions are invalid under WP:MEDRS? I eliminate the reputable newspaper sources and material while keeping the WP:MEDRS source and material.
Isn't collaboration what wikipedia is all about?
Isn't collaboration what I did?
Let's now look at the block log: "Disruptive editing - reinserting non-MEDRS sources". **But that's not what I did**: "I purposely limited this contribution to a WP:MEDRS source." So fail the grounds on which the block was handed out.
I tried my best to find a middle ground and feel that my contribution was unfairly tarred with an "edit war" epithet. I have asked kindly for Alexbrn to apologize but have been thus far rebuffed. I feel that my effort to contribute to wikipedia in a positive way have been unfairly and grossly mischaracterised to wikipedia's detriment.
Decline reason:
per my own assessment and RexxS's comments below, this unblock-request demonsrtrates exactly the reason for the block: continued refusal to understand and commit to following WP:MEDRS. Collaboration doesn't mean we can half-way go against sitewide consensus policies and guidelines on a per-page basis. DMacks (talk) 21:12, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
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- (Non-admin comment). One of the problems here is that you are saying PMID 33320974 is WP:MEDRS when it simply isn't (have you read WP:MEDRS?). It is an editorial. This basic misunderstanding combined with a steamroller approach to editing makes things very difficult. Alexbrn (talk) 19:44, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm afraid that your unblock request illustrates precisely how you fail to understand the requirements of MEDRS. You must read and understand that guidance if you intend to edit medical articles, particularly ones in controversial areas or subject to discretionary sanctions.
- Your assertions
"Sources found on Pubmed are typically acceptable under WP:MEDRS. The fact itself seems incontrovertible."
are absolutely, totally, and completely wrong. You need to grasp the fact that PubMed indexes a huge number of articles, including novel hypotheses, primary studies, editorials and opinion pieces published in scientific journals, some of which are of dubious quality. MEDRS requires medical content to be sourced to good quality secondary sources such as systematic reviews and position statements from national or international expert bodies. All of that is laid out in the opening of MEDRS and you have no excuse for not having read it by now. Let me be as clear as I can on the topic: MEDRS-sources are a minor subset of PubMed-sources; being indexed by PubMed is a necessary, but not a sufficient criterion for meeting MEDRS. - Secondly, I made it abundantly clear above that doi/10.1111/all.14711 falls short of what is required by MEDRS, yet you insist in your unblock request that it is. You were told the same by another editor who reverted you. However, instead of trying to reach an understanding of what would be acceptable as MEDRS by debate on the article talk page, you simply restored the content and the source to the article. That is not the first time you've done that, and such behaviour has to stop if you wish to continue editing here. --RexxS (talk) 21:03, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
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editJanvez: Just realized he deleted your comment under Sylvain Charlebois, again. His intent is clearly not to inform the public. Not sure what he's doing. Can we report him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janvez (talk • contribs) 10:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you @Janvez: Foodprofessor deleted those comments which were unsubstantiated by footnotes, as is proper. As a result, I replaced the material he deleted with adequately sourced text. S/he can no longer complain (see edit history notes) that the material is not adequately sourced. We will see the response, if any. Thanks for bringing this to my notice. It's like editorial ping-pong, you just need to get your mind into the game. You'll learn quickly enough. Magnovvig (talk) 10:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Janvez: Thanks! I hate this back and forth. Foodprofessor has only made changes to this one Charlebois page, for some reason. One recommendation, I would delete the "coining" comment, since I believe s/he was right, and NPR was not. Just a recommendation, up to you. --Janvez (talk) 10:56, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- You are welcome @Janvez: :) I'm pleased to be of service. Yes, I think the term was coined on twitter, but twitter is not accepted by wiki, which needs adequately sourced material like the NPR article. So if Denise Wong didn't use the term in an article between 29 December 2020 and 21 February 2021, Charlebois seems (in print thus on wiki) to have originated the term. Do you follow this logic? Magnovvig (talk) 11:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Janvez: Was not aware Wiki didn't recognize Twitter as a source. Not a bad idea. I do follow your logic and your contribution is well written. Thanks.--Janvez (talk) 11:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
@Magnovvig: Thanks for your edit at Sylvain Charlebois. I recently commented at article talk about the previous edits which you largely reverted. I am planning to act only as an uninvolved administrator relating to this issue but I have to comment on the general idea of what kind of text is suitable for an article. At Wikipedia, plain encyclopedic facts should be reported without flowery market-speak. That rules out "reminded readers" and "newsworthy item" and "dismayed" and more. In fact the whole "Consumer advocacy" section should be shortened to WP:DUE facts. If buttergate was an article on a notable incident, it would be fine to mention that term. Since the incident is not yet notable, there is no point in mentioning it other than for boosterism. Johnuniq (talk) 23:52, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Janvez: Sorry, it appears Foodprofessor is at it again. I thought your article was appropriate. --Janvez (talk) 23:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Janvez: if s/he tries to revert on the grounds that the op-ed is mere assertion, just point out that Charlebois is a professor and he can be assumed to know his field of study beyond that of mere scribes, hacks or other wikipedians. Magnovvig (talk) 23:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Janvez: Thanks! --Janvez (talk) 00:03, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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Sylvain Charlebois
editHi @Magnovvig: You seem to have a habit of adding non-sourced content into BLP articles, which is against policy. That section you restored, hasn't got a single reference to it's credit. Don't add it back in, unless it has proper references, that are verifiable per WP:V. scope_creepTalk 18:23, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm thinking of taking up to coin. It's worrying me that you adding unsourced content, into a BLP, of such low-quality, for some unknown reason. scope_creepTalk 18:25, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Scope creep: actually, it is not I who am "adding unsourced content". I am merely *restoring* unsourced content added by other editors which is relevant to the subject, and asking you kindly to "give readers more time than a few days to discover alternative references like archive.org, in the meantime leave it up". What part of this edit summary do you not understand and how can I help you to understand? Magnovvig (talk) 19:54, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm thinking of taking up to coin. It's worrying me that you adding unsourced content, into a BLP, of such low-quality, for some unknown reason. scope_creepTalk 18:25, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Janvez: Canadian Dairy is at it again. That lobby is relentless. Thank you for making sure the page is accurate. Wally Smith is a lobbyist so not sure why he needs to be mentioned.--Janvez (talk) 19:44, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Yaskyask: Smith is a farmer, but he represents a highly powerful lobby group, and the information presented is a matter of opinion. Others disagree with him. Are sure this is useful for wiki readers? Commenting "He should go back to school"? This is more provocation than anything else. What do you think? --Yaskyask (talk) 20:04, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Magnovvig: Well don't. Wikipedia policy is very clear on unsourced content, particularly for a BLP. Don't add it until you have references to support it. scope_creepTalk 21:06, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
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WP:DNTL
editEditors should not make blatantly false statements on Wikipedia. Editors should not lie on Wikipedia because it damages the encyclopedia and the online Wikipedia community. False information in Wikipedia articles hurts the reputation of the encyclopedia.
Please do not vandalize or distort indisputable facts, that can be easily searched up and verified, as you did on Justin Trudeau.
Trudeau assumed the office of PM in November 2015. Not in December. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT1l5kesjKA
Best Yeungkahchun (talk) 20:31, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yeungkahchun You must not be a native speaker of English, and therefore I will treat your comment with the derision it deserves. Magnovvig (talk) 20:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
It is with regret if you felt provoked by my simply reminding you to refrain from adding blatantly erroneous content through the altering of irrefutable information that can be quickly searched up and verified by anyone in a second.
Trudeau's November 4 2015 swearing-in, which is in the page's infobox, is cited on the official government website and virtually all news media sources. Yet you still unilaterally, without group consensus, went on ahead to make unconstructive edits to the page by changing it to December (the date of the opening of the Parliament rather than the official swearing-in ceremony).
Furthermore, I doubt you would be insisting that I am not a native speaker of English if my username was something such as "EnglishBob" rather than a foreign sounding one, thus I will treat your temperament with the revulsion and repugnance it has merited.
Please do have yourself a great day, and thank you for the other good faith contributions you have made on this site. Best regards. Yeungkahchun (talk) 21:48, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
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Alexei Navalny page restrictions
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You received a discretionary sanctions alert about Eastern Europe or the Balkans few minutes after those edits, for which I assume you weren't aware before, and hence cannot be sanctioned for breaching 1RR, but please be more careful in the future. Politrukki (talk) 19:29, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
OMICS journal
editConcerning [4], please don't cite predatory journals like those published by the OMICS Publishing Group. Inclusion in pubmed does not in any way guarantee that a source meets WP:MEDRS. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:47, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Headbomb I disagree with your philosophy and will continue to cite pubmed references without any regard for academic virtue signalling. Magnovvig (talk) 06:30, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- I suspect you will not be around Wikipedia for very long if you insist on citing unreliable sources and violate WP:MEDRS Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 06:42, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Headbomb That's interesting. How did I violate WP:MEDRS? How did I cite unreliable sources? It seems to me that pubmed is well able to screen undesirable sources own its own and therefore inclusion on the pubmed database is the determinant for inclusion on wikipedia. The US government has been well aware of the problem, to the extent of litigation; thus it is only natural that the blacklist of pubmed has developed to protect naive users from disreputable journals. I suspect you got up on the wrong side of the bed. Magnovvig (talk) 06:52, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- OMICS journals are not reliable sources,and do not meet WP:MEDRS. If you disagree you're free to start a discussion at WT:MED or WP:RSN. Pubmed may be able to do filtering, but it doesn't do so for a variety of reasons (for example, it is mandated to index any study funded by US public funds, regardless of where things were published). You've been told this before (see the comments by RexxS above). If you re-instate this source, I won't have a choice but to report you to WP:ANI for repeated violation of our policies on reliable sourcing. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 06:58, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Headbomb It seems that you fail to notice two things: 1. the US government does not support sham science or sham scientists - the academic-tenure system would appear to take care of problems like that; 2. the extension of WP:MEDRS to an article on Aluminium would seem to be problematic at best. Magnovvig (talk) 07:08, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- OMICS journals are not reliable sources,and do not meet WP:MEDRS. If you disagree you're free to start a discussion at WT:MED or WP:RSN. Pubmed may be able to do filtering, but it doesn't do so for a variety of reasons (for example, it is mandated to index any study funded by US public funds, regardless of where things were published). You've been told this before (see the comments by RexxS above). If you re-instate this source, I won't have a choice but to report you to WP:ANI for repeated violation of our policies on reliable sourcing. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 06:58, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Headbomb That's interesting. How did I violate WP:MEDRS? How did I cite unreliable sources? It seems to me that pubmed is well able to screen undesirable sources own its own and therefore inclusion on the pubmed database is the determinant for inclusion on wikipedia. The US government has been well aware of the problem, to the extent of litigation; thus it is only natural that the blacklist of pubmed has developed to protect naive users from disreputable journals. I suspect you got up on the wrong side of the bed. Magnovvig (talk) 06:52, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- I suspect you will not be around Wikipedia for very long if you insist on citing unreliable sources and violate WP:MEDRS Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 06:42, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
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Unsourced material at Acciai Speciali Terni
editHi Magnovvig, I moved a page you recently created to the draftspace because it had large amounts of unsourced content. I know you've been around for quite some time; so I guess it won't come as a surprise to you that information added to Wikipedia needs to be backed up by reliable sources via inline citations. Best Modussiccandi (talk) 16:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- thanks Modussiccandi I have resubmitted the article to the process. In the meantime, you are free to delete the portions that you feel are objectionable, or since I make no secret of the fact that I translated from the italian, if you feel you want to make some productive use of your time, you can translate the references from the Italian page. Have a nice day! Magnovvig (talk) 17:21, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
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Animal feed
editYou added an edit summary when you added/restored some material to animal feed
dumb leading the deaf. if we want to source the history, we only need to look to the respective wiki links. proveit does not apply here
Can you provide a fuller explanation? It sounds like you are suggesting that text including wiki links doesn't need to be sourced which is not the case so I'm hoping I'm misinterpreting your summary--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:36, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Your actions as an editor puzzle me.
I would understand your apparent lack of understanding of Wikipedia guidelines if you are a brand-new editor which you have over 10,000 edits.
Are you unfamiliar with Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle? I asked because I reverted one of your edits and opened this discussion on your talk page and you've declined to join in the discussion.
I can understand that you may be unfamiliar with Copy Patrol, Many editors even with a bit of experience are unaware that it exists. The reason I mention it is that you said:
if the contention of Sphilbrick is correct, then s/he will please do the same thing to Ellipse.
The simple fact is that animal feed appeared in that tool so I attempted to address the issue. I haven't seen Ellipse show up in that tool so I have not considered whether it has any issues.
However, even if you were unaware why I took action with connection to one article and not another must've been around long enough to have heard of WP:OSE.
My original question remains unanswered. Your earlier edit summary leaves the impression that you think the existence of blue links in an edit means citations are not necessary. I might be able to imagine a newbie editor thinking this way but not an experienced one which leads me to think I misinterpreting your edit summary. Can you please explain why you think unsourced material, tagged as needing a citation for almost a year, should not be removed?--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:00, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I'd like to hear an explanation. It's my view that your reversion of removal of unsourced text was not accompanied by any coherent policy explanation. If you can provide such an explanation to let it stand, if not I plan to remove it again as unsourced.--S Philbrick(Talk) 22:44, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- My intention was to give you a little time to reconsider your actions, in the hope that you might self revert. I didn't truly expect that to happen but I wanted to give you a chance. When that didn't happen I was going to put together a brief summary explaining the issues and how many times you've been warned, with a final warning that if you reverted me again it would result in a block but I see that you are currently blocked. Obviously, you are not supposed to respond except to the block issue, but I don't want to leave the unsourced material in the article 4 weeks of waiting for you to come from your block, so I have removed the unreferenced text. I'm happy to discuss with you when you are able to return.--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:36, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
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For the record: 1
edit- Netrutland - rv - not notable
- Magnovvig - maybe an anti-communist biased editor.
- Nedrutland - Take it to Talk
- Magnovvig - unreasonable to "take it to talk" while deleting text
- Nedrutland - BoJo is prominent as a politician; SuMi is notable as a scientist, not as a member of a (tiny) political party
For the record: 2
editunblock, reason why as written:
First of all, let me declare my surprise at the *procedure* of an edit-war block. Any reasonable person must ask the question "why was this person blocked?" But the answer figures nowhere in the text of the notice by Ymblanter. I have no doubt that this was a product of an automated system. The OP decided that I must be blocked and summarily instituted the block. Maybe it took one click, maybe two. But nowhere is listed on the resulting form the wiki page that sparked the complaint that resulted in the block. Do you not find it odd that we are nowhere able to inquire as to the root causes of this disciplinary procedure? Maybe that is how you discipline a cur, with results to match. But even dogs, if you haven't spoiled them too badly with ill-treatment, are taught not to piss on the rug by rubbing their noses in the mess. If I win election to ArbCom at the next round, I will make it my mission to change this irrational and unfriendly procedure of drive-by blocking.
Now let's explore why I was blocked for edit-warring. See the Susan Michie wiki. Nedrutland told us that "rv - not notable" when the change I made was documented by a reputable source, John Johnston at www.politicshome.com. How is this "not notable"? So I reverted the reversion because the change tag was nonsense. At that stage I remarked "maybe an anti-communist biased editor". This reversion was reverted by the same editor under the tag Take it to Talk. At this point I was uncooperative because the effect of the OP's edit would have been to delete mention of Susan Michie's party affiliation in the lead paragraph while a discussion ensued on the talk page. This was unsatisfactory to me because the article would be silent on the subject's party affiliation in a questionable violation of wikipedia's editorial impartiality. So I remarked as I reverted this change that it was unreasonable to "take it to talk" while deleting text. And then I was blocked.
At this stage, we should ask the question: "why does Nedrutland dislike the edit so much?" It could be s/he is a frothing anti-communist, that fears mention of the subject's good standing within the community. Or it could be that s/he is a mysogynist, that wants to shield readers from the knowledge that the woman is a successful politician. Or then again it could be that s/he is a communist that wants to shield readers from the knowledge that the subject is a communist. We need not inquire too much into the motivation of the editor, other than to wonder at this Nedrutland reversion from 16 June: BoJo is prominent as a politician; SuMi is notable as a scientist, not as a member of a (tiny) political party.
It would be nice if wiki were a victim of neither fear nor favour.
Your vote on this issue matters, and I would like to be able to count on your support, with a vote to unblock me.
Magnovvig (talk) 12:02, 18 June 2021 (UTC)}}
- Ooh, Gish Gallop. I like it. 2607:FEA8:3BA0:4220:B5:7C44:F9A8:AA3A (talk) 15:04, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
June 2021: blocked over Susan Michie
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Request reason:
First of all, let me declare my surprise at the *procedure* of an edit-war block. Any reasonable person must ask the question "why was this person blocked?" But the answer figures nowhere in the text of the notice by Ymblanter. I have no doubt that this was a product of an automated system. The OP decided that I must be blocked and summarily instituted the block. Maybe it took one click, maybe two. But nowhere is listed on the resulting form the wiki page that sparked the complaint that resulted in the block. Do you not find it odd that we are nowhere able to inquire as to the root causes of this disciplinary procedure? Maybe that is how you discipline a cur, with results to match. But even dogs, if you haven't spoiled them too badly with ill-treatment, are taught not to piss on the rug by rubbing their noses in the mess. If I win election to ArbCom at the next round, I will make it my mission to change this irrational and unfriendly procedure of drive-by blocking.
Now let's explore why I was blocked for edit-warring. See the Susan Michie wiki. Nedrutland told us that "rv - not notable" when the change I made was documented by a reputable source, John Johnston at www.politicshome.com. How is this "not notable"? So I reverted the reversion because the change tag was nonsense. At that stage I remarked "maybe an anti-communist biased editor". This reversion was reverted by the same editor under the tag "Take it to Talk". At this point I was uncooperative because the effect of the OP's edit would have been to delete mention of Susan Michie's party affiliation in the lead paragraph while a discussion ensued on the talk page. This was unsatisfactory to me because the article would be silent on the subject's party affiliation in a questionable violation of wikipedia's editorial impartiality. So I remarked as I reverted this change that it was unreasonable to "take it to talk" while deleting text. And then I was blocked.
At this stage, we should ask the question: "why does Nedrutland dislike the edit so much?" It could be s/he is a frothing anti-communist, that fears mention of the subject's good standing within the community. Or it could be that s/he is a mysogynist, that wants to shield readers from the knowledge that the woman is a successful politician. Or then again it could be that s/he is a communist that wants to shield readers from the knowledge that the subject is a communist. We need not inquire too much into the motivation of the editor, other than to wonder at this Nedrutland reversion from 16 June: BoJo is prominent as a politician; SuMi is notable as a scientist, not as a member of a (tiny) political party.
It would be nice if wiki were a victim of neither fear nor favour.
Your vote on this issue matters, and I would like to be able to count on your support, with a vote to unblock me.
Magnovvig (talk) 12:02, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Decline reason:
First off you are already aware that edit warring is not allowed because you have been blocked for it in the past. You do not require further warning, nor is a report needed for action to be taken. It is not automated and was done manually by an administrator with good judgement.
Secondly why you thought it was a good idea to engage in personal attacks in your unblock request such as calling an editor a "frothing anti-communist" or a "mysogynist" was acceptable is beyond me.
I am increasing your block duration to 2 weeks from now for making personal attacks while blocked. If you continue to abuse your talk page privileges while blocked I will revoke your talk page access. Personal attacks are not allowed anywhere on Wikipedia. HighInBC Need help? Just ask. 12:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
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Request reason:
At the outset, I am displeased that the procedure here vaporises my carefully crafted wiki links to the edit logs. At some point within the process, after I submitted my request to unblock, someone or some process transcribed my text without wiki formatting. If I am elected in the next ArbCom elections, I will change that behaviour. I have attempted to restore what I wrote here, but in any case it is available above.
For the record: I did not call anyone anything, as in "The editor is an X". I simply asked a question whether s/he was or was not an X. "It could be that X" is not making a personal attack. There is a difference, and I am disappointed that HighInBC fails to make the distinction. If I am not mistaken, in rhetoric this is called Apophasis - "Accordingly, it can be seen as a rhetorical relative of irony".
I am right to inquire as to the state of mind of the OP when s/he makes an unsupportable claim "rv - not notable" when the change I had made previously was documented by a reputable source, John Johnston at www.politicshome.com.
Furthermore, the unsupportable claim made by the OP should vitiate his contention that I engaged in an edit war. If anything, it was not me but the OP who engaged in an edit war. It makes little sense to penalise me when OP made an erroneous claim and then launched this procedure.
I continue to believe that the appropriate state of Susan Michie ought to be unreverted, and I hope another arbitrator will look at this affair with clear and impartial vision and unblock me and put this unpleasant affair behind us all.
Magnovvig (talk) 17:41, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I don't see any way a user with your attitude towards discourse will be able to work acceptably in this collaborative process. Talk page access revoked, block extended to indefinite. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 20:55, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
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- Since the user continues to post personal attacks, I would suggest revoking TPA.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:04, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Color me puzzled
editDo you not find it odd that we are nowhere able to inquire as to the root causes of this disciplinary procedure?
If by some chance you didn't understand the reason for the block, there actually is a place where you could inquire. Here. I understand that with brand-new editors, they may receive a block notice which is heavy on jargon and may not be completely understood. But you have over 10,000 edits. Even before I read the rest of your message, I found it quite implausible that you would not know what this was about and even if you didn't know, could simply ask. However, you went on to discuss the incident in detail which leaves me scratching your head as to why you would pretend you don't know what the root cause is.--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:43, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Susan Michie
editFWIW, I wasn't happy when I saw the edit summary "(rv - not notable) " in the @Nedrutland: edit. It is my understanding that notability is a concept which applies to a topic, not to an article and definitely not to a single assertion in an article. That said, per MOS:LEAD, the lead should include "a summary of its most important contents." I interpreted the edit summary as meaning the claim did not deserve inclusion in the lead. The retort that the change was "documented by a reputable source" misses the point. I don't believe anyone is challenging the assertion that she's a member of the Communist Party. Indeed, it is mentioned in two separate sentences in the early life section, and discussed further in the politics section. The question is whether that piece of information deserves mention in the lead. Frankly, I can see arguments on both sides, but is anyone with your experience should know, if the material is added and then removed the next step is to open a discussion on the talk page to determine whether it belongs in the lead in addition to the main body. Editors with your experience should know better than to engage in an edit war.--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:57, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
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Adding citations that don't correspond to the text
editIt seems you've added a citation to [of the cave: Symbolism] that doesn't correspond to or verify the text in that section, which you didn't write. In some sense, that section is still unsourced, and the source you added on the behalf of the original contributor only gives it the veneer of a citation. Encyclopedic content must be verifiable. Talib1101 (talk) 00:38, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
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György Molnár (diplomat) moved to draftspace
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Hungarian civil servants
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Companies based in Ancona
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Ferry companies of Albania
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Victor Hybinette (July 26)
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AfC notification: Draft:Victor Hybinette has a new comment
editThe article Protein stoichiometry has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Created by a now-indeffed user who added wrong information about "protein stoichiometry" to a number of articles. This has nothing to do with Chargaff's rules about DNA composition. In the literature the term refers only to the stoichiometry of protein complexes, and even if we were to have a standalone article about that, the current article history wouldn't be useful.
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Your draft article, Draft:EU-China Comprehensive Agreement on Investment
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Your draft article, Draft:Acciaierie Valbruna
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Your draft article, Draft:Epicore
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Nomination of Atticus Capital for deletion
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Nomination of ImmunityBio for deletion
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Your draft article, Draft:Human Vaccines Project
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Nomination of ImmunityBio for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Myelitis
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Speedy rename category
editPlease see my proposal to speedy rename Category: Aluminum smelters to Category: Aluminium smelters Hugo999 (talk) 07:22, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- The user has been blocked for 500 days and cannot even edit their own talk page. I don't know why all the people keep posting messages here... Politrukki (talk) 07:33, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:English dissidents
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The redirect International Funboard Class Association has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 31 § International Funboard Class Association until a consensus is reached. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 06:52, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
The article Skyservice Investments has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Doesn't seem to meet WP:NCORP. Sources are just routine business coverage.
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Category:French coroners has been nominated for merging
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Category:Romanian coroners has been nominated for merging
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The article Sports Technology and Innovation Group has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Insufficient evidence of notability
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