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DYK for Woodland Public Library

On 7 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Woodland Public Library, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Cottonwood

My source only mentioned its one-time existence. If your source has more info, please add that and move the listing to a more proper category in the template as necessary. Cheers, Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! Killiondude (talk) 05:10, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Douglas Mackimm

I do not believe that the entry "Douglas Mackimm" that I have created should be eliminated. I read and understand Wikipedia's guidelines for articles, and "Douglas Mackimm" does not violate any specific rules set forth as to the validity of articles. Also, the article in no way, shape, or form is the "pure vandalism" that was cited in the notice I received of its probable deletion. Wikipedia does set forth policy in that it exercises editorial control over articles and publications, but as established in previous similar cases, exercising such control cannot legally be content-based. There is a compelling interest in having the right to publish such information, and Wikipedia interfering with that right is in violation of the First Amendment.

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Re: Wikipedia talk:Citation templates#Problems Citing Booklet

Delayed response. :) I think that the Society should be listed as the author. لennavecia 14:03, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, even if it was late! :-) I'll add that in the reference. Killiondude (talk) 00:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

hey stop leaving threatening messages on my page Hello476 (talk) 23:39, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

did you ever consider that what you are doing on my page is vandalism smartone! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hello476 (talk • contribs) 23:43, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

i didnt mean to put this it was an accident! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.75.54.224 (talk) 23:20, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

My talk

Cheers for getting to it so quickly - hopefully he's gone now. Kcordina ^Talk 23:52, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Well it seems we helped each other, I reverted some on your user page, and you reverted some on my user page. Mutually beneficial :-) I hope they're gone too. Killiondude (talk) 00:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for restoring my user page after it was blanked by a vandal. It is appreciated greatly. Alanraywiki (talk) 00:52, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem! :-) -Killiondude (talk) 00:53, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

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For A reverting vandalism on my talkpage, (he was a bad one that one!) and B, for generally being a great vandal fighter! Andy (talk) 20:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I appreciate it! Killiondude (talk) 20:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for reverting vandalism on my user page! --A More Perfect Onion (talk) 20:47, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the smiley! Nice username by the way ;-) Killiondude (talk) 21:05, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I was glad to grab the pun. You ought to see some of my commentary at EFD. --A More Perfect Onion (talk) 21:18, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh wow! I have never seen EFD. I have instantly fallen in love with it. Thanks for sharing it with me. I've read your comments, and they're pretty funny. I'll continue reading it, and perhaps join in on the discussion. :-) Killiondude (talk) 21:34, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Den Schliker

can u pls help me to correct my article about this photographer if u think it's written in a wrong way...don't delete, pls! GeoffBarrenger (talk) 20:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Den Schliker \ photographer

thanx 4 removing "delete" mark from the article about this photographer. He did not shoot for any movies but as far as I know from my recent trip to Ukraine - he's pretty known there, and he's made a great impact on the development of portrait\fashion photography in that country. Check his works on the official website, this photographer is really amazing! thanx again for leaving the article "on". cheers. BTW, can u pls upload the photo of this photographer..'cause it seems to me I do not have rights for that here yet. Lemme know and I'll send it to you. GeoffBarrenger (talk) 01:08, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

The article says he shot the photo shoots for movies like "While You Were Sleeping". Where did you get the photos from? Wikipedia has rules on what photos can be uploaded. If it is copyrighted, they won't accept it. If you took the photo yourself it is fine, but other than that, things get a little strict. Killiondude (talk) 01:51, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

He did not shot for the movie "While u were sleeping", that is the name for the fashion-story he shot. By 'fashion story' photographers usually mean "a series of fashion photographs, mostly of editorial type ones, usually shot for magazines". As to the "While u were sleeping" series, it was published in well known in Western Ukraine magazine called "Lviv Today", which is being published by Peter Dickinson.

As to the photo of this photographer, everything is legal here, it is the one from photographer's biography. If u need his approval for putting this photo here, let me know and I will ask him to send you a confirmation by email, if u wish. Thanks for assistance. Cheers. GeoffBarrenger (talk) 12:09, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Sir, can u please upload the photo of the person descibed in "Den Schliker" article? I can provide you one as mentioned before. GeoffBarrenger (talk) 18:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

First lets make sure the artist is "notable". Please read WP:BIO and WP:CREATIVE. They list criteria for something to be included in Wikipedia. With the article the way it is right now, it doesn't give any references or sources to meet these required criteria, and as such it Den Shchliker could be considered "non-notable" for Wikipedia. Could you provide any references online to any articles in newspaper, magazines, or journals about him?

I'd like to establish notability before any superficial work is done to the article. I placed a tag on the article stating that the subject may not be notable (until this is resolved). Killiondude (talk) 18:33, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

His works published (at least those I know about...but actually there could be more and more of them): (1) Photo "When There's No Way Back" was nominated for the 1-st Place winner for publication in "Popular Photography & Imaging" magazine (New York, USA); (2) some of his art-works were published in the well known in Russia photography book "Outlooks On Life. Volume II: Such a Different Love". (3) His special interview was for the STUD mag, which is a Russina or Ukrainian one. References are here: http://www.denschliker.com/news.html (4) some of his works published in "LvivToday" mag issued by Peter Dickinson. Moreover his works were a part of miscellaneous exhibitions, etc. Will it be enough to assume he's "notable". I guess yes. Agree? GeoffBarrenger (talk) 18:58, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

In addition to the above mentioned in my previous post: this photographer was also known in collaboration with Ukrainian music band "Monophonic", and was the author of photographic cover for the EP album of the mentioned music band (Monophonic: "Sunny Walk"). GeoffBarrenger (talk) 21:27, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll work on the article. Its a bit difficult because a lot of the sources are in Russian or Ukranian. It needs specific references to sources, and since I can only read in English and Spanish, its a somewhat difficult. Killiondude (talk) 03:27, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

I've searched on Google for English references, finding none. I've decided to just keep the tags on the article. I don't feel comfortable with it, but since I can't read or speak Russian (and/or Ukranian) I have no way of helping the article out. I could post the picture for you if you'd like. Is it located online? Or on your computer? I also need very specific information about how you came to obtain it. Killiondude (talk) 04:03, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

You can upload this one, it's from the photographer's website and it is free for use: http://www.denschliker.com/Den.Schliker_photo.for.media.free.for.use.jpg thank you GeoffBarrenger (talk) 15:37, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Per a suggestion from User:NuclearWarfare, in this reply (I asked him how I should handle this photo with copyright rules on Wikipedia), Den Schliker needs to post somewhere on his website that the photo in question is licensed under GFDL license. I assume you and he know each other? Killiondude (talk) 00:10, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

see comments on my talk page, pls GeoffBarrenger (talk) 14:49, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Lil Stress

An article that you have been involved in editing, Lil Stress, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lil Stress. Thank you. Wavehunter (talk) 05:07, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

KOVR

Warned? First off, I just found out that someone in my home using my login edited that page...so we solved that problem by removing the standing login. Sorry that whatever you added (presumably) or contributed was removed. I know what happened, and it won't again.

Second, I don't consider it a warning. A warning is something to be taken seriously. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrpariot (talk • contribs) 00:24, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I was referencing a warning that somebody else had put on your talk page. See Template:Uw-delete2 (which is what Trusilver had given you). "UW" stands for "user warning" also see WP:WARN. It seems to have been given because you deleted (or removed) content from the KOVR page, and I posted a message on your talk page because somebody from your account had removed content again. Killiondude (talk) 03:14, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

miley cyrus

i hate her!!!!!!!!!!! she is annoying, but very pretty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Torioriborri (talk • contribs) 03:49, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Newbie Question

Hi Killiondude, I am taking you up on the offer to answer some questions. Thanks for commenting on the Benchmark_Electronics article that I am working on. My question is regarding the fact that the article seems to have gone through a couple of speedy deletes in the past. Does this mean that it will be eligible for speedy deletion again and is likely to not survive? Thanks! TanKaram (talk) 21:44, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

• From looking at what you've written, I doubt it very much. Speedy deletion happens when an article can't show notability. That's a word tossed around a lot in Wikipedia. It means the article has to prove that the subject is "widely known" enough to have an article. This is proven by the amount of coverage it gets in third party journals, articles, books, sites, etc. Benchmark Electronics seems to meet the notability requirements, so it won't be speedy deleted. The third party references you've provided help its case. You might want to add more--just to be more confident that its notability won't be a problem. But like I said, as of right now it appears to be a notable company. If you click on the link I provided above, (the word notability will lead you to WP:ORG), it discusses this topic further.
  On another note, don't worry about asking questions (to me or anyone in general). People for the most part are very helpful on the site. Killiondude (talk) 22:25, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
• Sorry to eavesdrop here, but I was just checking here to keep an eye on following up all the feedback cases I have 'taken on', and it seems that there is something I can add. I spotted that exact same thing, and checked it out: the previous deletes were over copyright violations (probably copy-and-pastes from the company website), so there has never been any question of notability problems with this one. Don't worry, and keep up the good work.— Kan8eDie (talk) 00:02, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
  PS to Killion: there are lots of reasons for speedy deletion, not just notability.

Thanks for the additional comment. Very true. I'm now slightly embarrassed that I didn't mention the other reasons. I also didn't check the deletion logs for why it was deleted. My mistake-- I'll keep that in mind in the future. You (TanKaram) can see the full list of reasons why something can be speedily deleted at WP:CSD. Killiondude (talk) 00:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_feedback Comodo

Thanks for placing the "expand" tag on the Comodo page. I have not edited the page so far myself because I didn't want to overstep the conflict of interest guidelines, but I have made a few suggestions to the man who has been working on this project since before I got here.

I want to expand the page, and I would appreciate your suggestions. Should I put my revisions on my talk page and let you know when they are there?

I appreciate your help.katharine90814:09, 2 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katharine908 (talk • contribs)

Thanks again, KillionDude, for your comments. How perspicacious of you to notice that I was having formatting issues! When I get them ironed out I will triumphantly let you know.

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Jxc5 (talk) 18:22, 12 January 2009 (UTC) Thank you for your feedback on my article Killiondude! It was very helpful. I've made a few changes that you thought were needed, and still on it. I have one problem though. There's one article here that has the same title (Charles A. Lockwood, an admiral), except for the middle initial. Mine doesn't have that supposedly, but still it won't allow me to create a page. I did try to peruse some guidelines ... but, I thought I haven't done enough to remedy the problem and I don't really know what to do now. Can you please help me, or tell me the proper way to resolve this? Thank you so much for your time.

You'll have to add a qualifier at the end of his name when you move it into the mainspace (a "live" article). For example, "Charles Lockwood (author)" or something of that sort. See WP:NAMEPEOPLE and more specifically, WP:QUALIFIER. I've never seen a "(strategist)" qualifier though, so I'm not sure you should use that. In my opinion the "(author)" qualifier might work out better. Once you make the article, you (or I) can add a hatnote to the top of the admiral's page saying "For the corporate strategist of the same name, see X", (something to that effect) where X would be the name and link to your Charles Lockwood. Also, to link internally to your user subpage, you'd write User:Jxc5/Charles Lockwood (I noticed you've been using the web page address instead of internally linking it). Killiondude (talk) 19:52, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

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Den Schliker - article for deletion again??

hi there. why was the article marked for deletion..again? Pls, clear up. GeoffBarrenger (talk) 19:05, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

..and WHY was the photo of Den Schliker deleted? As far as I know he signed an agreement to post it accoding to GNU. So..? GeoffBarrenger (talk) 19:37, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't nominate the article, another (new) user did. I think that Den Schliker meets the requirements to stay on Wikipedia. You can put your two cents in at the deletion discussion for the article here. If you can read Russian or Ukrainian and can find any more references for Schliker on the internet, now would be a great time. It would help show that he is notable.

By the way, the picture is still up. Nothing is wrong with it, I just checked. Killiondude (talk) 21:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

2 Killondude: thank you for the assistance and help. As to your suuggestions : I already wrote a message on the talk page of that new guy who submitted the article for deletion. But i am not an admin here, so I do not think my words will count.. GeoffBarrenger (talk) 22:02, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Whoops, I fixed the link (above) to the deletion discussion. You don't have to be an admin to give your input, I myself am not an admin (though hopefully in the future) and I gave my say in the matter. Killiondude (talk) 23:16, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Recent edits

Hello Killiondude I have noticed you made substantial edits to the California article, I ask that you refrain from any further edits, until I can verify it. If you continue you will be blocked for a period of indefinate. Willydick (talk) 07:43, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't really understand why? And I don't appreciate the threat of a block. I have never shown any sign of intentional wrong-doing on Wikipedia. You are not an admin. I've noticed you made substantial edits to nothing so refrain from acting like you're somebody important. Killiondude (talk) 07:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

lol, I'm Just joking .Willydick (talk) 07:53, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I might have found it funny if I talked with you before or even knew who you were. That was just kinda tacky. And you sort of made yourself out to be an admin when you aren't (that's also known as being an impostor). Killiondude (talk) 07:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Ден Шликер

What is Den Schliker name is Russian and ukrainian? You can use Google to find sources. Add this guys name in russian and ukrainian in the article.

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

You can find sources for any source by using: {{findsources3|name of article}} travb (talk) 10:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind about the russian, I saw your name in the stud article, what about ukrainian? please add to article. travb (talk) 11:14, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

You saw my name in the stud article? I don't exactly know what that means...?

I am not sure what his name is in ukrainian. I'll email him to see if I can find out. I've never contacted him before though, so I don't know how quickly he will respond. Killiondude (talk) 17:10, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I've used the "findsources" thing for this article, and I couldn't find anything helpful. Believe me, I've spent at least a couple hours (collectively) looking for references for him on Google and other search sites. I see that somebody (possibly you) added his name in Cyrillic to the article. That is helpful. I'll search for that, and try to view translated versions of the pages that come up. Although, I probably can't do that until this evening. I'm at work-ish. Killiondude (talk) 17:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The discussion continues. When have free time, share your thoughts here, pls: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Den_Schliker 194.9.50.67 (talk) 19:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I already did? I'm guessing that this is Geoff. Whomever that was, when they extend an AfD it doesn't mean that everybody !votes again (at least in my understanding). Killiondude (talk) 00:59, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Reply

"Hi! I wanted to add a personal message in addition to the templated one (above). I saw your recent addition to the Comodo Group page which lead me here. I noticed that in the original version of your user page (here), you wrote that you work for Comodo. That is perfectly fine, however, this means that you have several things you should read before you commence with any more edits to anything related to Comodo.

• WP:COI (Conflict of Interest). Because you work there you have a conflict of interest. That page describes what that means and how to to handle that.
• WP:FAQ/Organization. That page has many FAQ about how to edit without displaying a conflict of interest.
• WP:NPOV (Neutral point of view). Everyone needs to keep a neutral point of view on Wikipedia, but especially when there is a conflict of interest involves (or just personal views on things).

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me here or on my talk page. Have a night day! Killiondude (talk) 08:10, 19 January 2009 (UTC)"

I don't really "work" for Comodo, I just send them malware. I also send malware to most all anti-virus companies that use it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremysbost (talk • contribs) 20:39, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I misinterpreted that. Continue on your way then :-) Killiondude (talk) 22:42, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Reference help

hey, thanks for the advice! Doing references that way next time will be much easier. Do you know though if there is anyway I can take what I already put in with the references tags and not re-list the same reference over and over? Or is going through and redoing the references as citations the only way? Thanks again! CPRI04 (talk) 17:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, let me see. I'll test out what I'm thinking on a sandbox page. Be back in a few minutes. Killiondude (talk) 17:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so it did work. I guess I could've recommended this way to you as well (but I forgot). You can just add a "name" value for the references as they currently are in that article. So it'd go something like this: <ref name="blah">reference is cited here<ref> and then when you want to cite the same thing later on, you'd write just <ref name="blah" />. See my test on the sandbox here for another example. Killiondude (talk) 17:37, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Public university systems

Hey is this "list" Category:Public university systems in the United States pretty extensive or do you know anything location to find them all? 16x9 (talk) 13:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh sweet. That's a nifty category to work from. Yeah, that looks like it'll work but like I said, be careful that community ollege numbers don't get included (some university systems include 4-year as well as 2-year institutions). Nice job on locating that category. Killiondude (talk) 22:21, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

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Wikipedia link help

Hey, Killiondude, I was hoping you might be able to answer a question for me. So I am working on the article Uses of Fungicides right now, hoping to cut down the references and put links in so I can finish up this article and take off the construction tag but I am a little confused on wikipedia policy on links. Basically what I am wondering is within an article how often do you make a word link to another wikipedia article? For example in Uses of Fungicides the article talks about many different U.S. states many times. Now what I am wondering is let's say for California how often do I link to the California page when I mention the state? Onl the first time? Everytime? It is a lengthy article so it seems like I should link to it more than once but not every single time. I tried to find wikipedia guidelines on this somewhere but kinda struggled to so I was hoping you might be able to shed some light. Thanks so much! CPRI04 (talk) 15:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Sure! MOS:LINKS is the page that covers the guidelines for "wikilinking". Typically wikilinking is used as a "cross-reference" to help the reader better understand what the article is talking about. So for a fungicide article you might want to wikilink any technical terms/phrases that have Wikipedia articles of their own so that the reader (if they don't know what that term means) can read more about it. Because the article you're working on is about fungicides, I wouldn't bother with wikilinking to US states, unless reading the states' articles would help the reader understand more about whatever the fungicide article is talking about. But when you link inside an article, you typically do it the just first time that the word comes up, and possibly a second time if the word/term/phrase comes up later on in the article (not in the same section, but further down). There needs to be a "happy medium" of sorts in every article where there is enough wikilinks so that it is not underlinked nor overlinked. You can check out MOS:LINKS and if you have any further questions, feel free to ask. Asking questions is key to learning here on Wikipedia. Killiondude (talk) 19:56, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Joe Graham article

Hello,

The Joe Graham article is the first I have posted on Wikipedia. I write the article working with Joe. Joe supplied the picture. He's 65 (today as a matter of fact) and is not too tech-savvy. I have some pictures that I have taken of him on my visits to Belfast, but he prefers that one.

When it comes to references, are you looking for third-party references to some of the facts in the article? For example, of the books Joe is written, most are out of print or were of such limited runs that links are not available to them other than used bookstores online and those are very temporary.

Thanks for your help working with a newbie,

Metsfan1969 --Metsfan1969 (talk) 19:26, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Articles needs to provide reliable sources (that are third preferably) to show verifiability and to meet notability requirements for people. You probably want to check out Wikipedia:Your first article, Wikipedia:Frequently Asked Questions, and Wikipedia:Tutorial. Also, the welcome box I placed on your talk page has many useful links too. Don't be afraid to ask me any questions though. I suggest citing as many third party sources as possible in the Joe Graham article, so that it'll be safe from deletion (non-notable people's articles get deleted per Wikipedia's criteria at WP:BIO). Killiondude (talk) 01:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I also forgot to mention that it is sort of frowned upon for people to edit Wikipedia articles about themselves. Even with good intentions. It just leads to a lot of information that isn't cited, as well as casting a positive light on the subject of the article. Wikipedia tries at all costs to maintain a neutral point of view. And if you're a friend or contact of Joe, you have a conflict of interest. Basically that means you are connected to the subject, and you need to be very careful when editing stuff about him (to keep a neutral point of view in place). I forgot to answer the question about the photo in my previous post. Check out WP:YOURPHOTO. That page is very to the point and gives step by step instructions on how a person can submit a photo of themselves to Wikipedia. Bascially, Joe needs to email that photo to the email address given on that page, stating that Wikipedia can use it. See the previous link for more info. Killiondude (talk) 20:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Rob Bell

Apologies, the page had been tagged by User:Tank Abbott as the talk page of a deleted page. These orphaned talk pages crop up all the time, so I never thought to check. I have restored the page, and removed the bad faith tag. jimfbleak (talk) 06:33, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

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The Cherita arose out of the English-language haiku and tanka tradition, but is more anecdotal, or nano-narrative, in nature than are the “momentary” haiku and the more lyrical tanka, though it is easily adaptable to lyical expression. It is imagistic in nature, and depends on conciseness and suggestion for its effect.

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• still: home for short verse[1]

• Winfred Press[2]

Soaphollow (talk) 20:18, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Cherita (poetic form)

Cherita [pronounced CHAIR-rita] is a Malay word for story or tale. A Cherita consists of a single stanza of one-line verse, followed by a two-line verse, and then finishing with a three-line verse. It was created by ai li, editor of still: home of short verse, on the 22 June 1997.

The Cherita arose out of the English-language haiku and tanka tradition, but is more anecdotal, or nano-narrative, in nature than are the “momentary” haiku and the more lyrical tanka, though it is easily adaptable to lyical expression. It is imagistic in nature, and depends on conciseness and suggestion for its effect.

More about Cherita, as well as examples, can be found on still: home for short verse and at Winfred Press.

External links

• still: home for short verse[3]

• Winfred Press[4]

Soaphollow (talk) 20:44, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you - concerning Cherita post

Thank you. I understand about the reliable sources and I'll look into it, though I doubt I can find more credible ones! And I do still have the welcome box. I'm just making mistakes, because yesterday was my first try at Wikipedia. I'll try for a bit more patience. I tend to learn by rolling up my sleeves and trying things out, then the instructions make more sense when I come back to them. But I shouldn't inflict my methods on busy people. Anyway, thanks for the help.

Soaphollow (talk) 12:07, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

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I have contested your edit to Julius Caesar. Please see talk page. Featuresaltlakecity (talk) 07:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

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