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Heard your lightning talk just now. I support both the "Radical solutions to promotional paid editing" proposals you announced on notability and restrictions on anon editors around companies newer than 1999 foundation. Are there some written proposals to refer to? - Brianhe (talk) 20:43, 15 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
there will be--one of the reasons I gave the talk was to get some feedback about just what to propose, and I am already getting some. Watch this space tomorrow. DGG ( talk ) 20:55, 15 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
Video from the lightning talks is now available via Commons. DGG's lightning talk is the first one, proposal #1 is detailed at 2:15 and #2 at 3:00. - Brianhe (talk) 06:31, 24 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
Passing of David Goodman
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David Goodman, user:DGG, passed away Thursday April 6, 2023. David was active in many parts of Wikipedia and had hundreds of collaborators, including in-person outreach with Wikimedia New York City. I am coordinating an obituary for him with Wikimedia NYC and The Signpost. Anyone who would like to coordinate in developing this may directly edit DGG obituary, but please bring discussion to The Signpost newsroom. I will later replace this development message with the link to the obituary. Bluerasberry (talk)16:54, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
This is extremely sad to hear. I've always respected David as a member of Wikimedia NYC. Even though I only met him in person once, he was very knowledgeable, humble, and just a great person to be around. His passing is a great loss to all of us. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:13, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
A fine editor and fellow Wikimedia NYC member has left us. His hard work will be greatly missed; my sincere condolences to his friends and family. Complex/Rational17:22, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'm devastated. Ever since my early steps on WP, David was there to guide and counsel me. I learned so much from him, I feel orphaned. Rest now, my friend. --Randykitty (talk) 17:22, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
A huge loss to Wikipedia. We met in person once, over a decade ago now. We didn't always share the same opinions but I always respected your calm and considered contributions to discussions. You will be missed. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts?17:25, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Very sad news. He was a trove of knowledge from whom I learned so very much. His enthusiasm in rescuing old and abandoned drafts from being lost to G13 was unmatched. – SD0001 (talk) 17:39, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I was fortunate enough to serve with him on the Arbitration Committee in 2015, and while we did not always share the same opinions his views were always well argued and originated from a deep desire to do what was best for the project and its editors. This news has come as somewhat of a shock so I'm still processing it, but it is definitely clear that he will be sincerely missed by many people here including me. Thryduulf (talk) 17:46, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
A great loss. David was erudite, kind, driven, and nurturing. It was always a pleasure to speak with him in person. He will be missed. Ijon (talk) 17:56, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
David was one of the Wikipedia editors and admins I respected the most. Even when I disagreed with them, his insightful comments always made me stop and think and wonder if he was actually right after all, and his knowledge about academic subjects might well be one of the best Wikipedia has ever had. I know he worked closely with Kudpung on trying to bring out the best in the NPP / AfC procedures, and that's another thing he'll be missed for. I never met him but I got a chance to meet face to face and chat briefly at one of the NY meet-ups when they were online - I wanted to talk about NPP / AfC a bit but I was distracted by other things, so never got the chance. A sad loss :-( Ritchie333(talk)(cont)17:58, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
One of the very best in our community. I feel this loss personally as David was incredibly helpful to me in my early days as a novice editor. My deepest condolences to his family, friends and loves ones. May his memory be eternal. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:05, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
This is tragic news. I had the privilege of meeting David ten years ago at Wikimania, where we shared a session. I appreciated his vast knowledge of the movement and his keen insights into Wikipedia culture. His wisdom will be greatly missed. guillom18:07, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I am deeply saddened by his departure and I think the loss is vast. Condolences to his family and my sympathy for the NYC community. --M/ (talk) 18:12, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I will miss David's gentleness, his directness. A model administrator and effective teacher, User:DGG's edits will endure. I hope his family learns he was a widely respected wikipedian, an exemplar. BusterD (talk) 18:23, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Devastating. David was one of my favourite editors of all time. He brought so much knowledge and energy to this project and yet was always humble. I will miss him greatly. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 18:51, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
So saddened to hear this news. David often managed to persuade me to reconsider my opinions on a lot of matters, both editorial and administrative. He was one of the most respected functionaries, and we will always be aware of his absence. He was a formidable man, editor, administrator, functionary, and a walking educational resource. May his memory be a blessing. Risker (talk) 19:16, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
DGG was a lion of librarianship, editing, opinion, New York, and pretty much everything he touched was warmed and affected by him. He gave immense credibility to Wikipedia through his professional experience, and he took sharp views on issues that caused immense controversy. I hope he's enjoying a bagel with all too much schmear. Ocaasit | c19:31, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
David could always be counted on to see users as real people, and not to accept conventional wisdom on face value. He will be greatly missed. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:32, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
An outstanding, kind, and generous person. I had the great pleasure of meeting him in real life several times. I will remember him and miss him. תנצב״ה. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 19:55, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I didn't know him all that well, but our paths crossed quite a few times across my Wikipedia career. I always thought him to be a kind and knowledgeable editor, who made well thought arguments without letting his passions get in the way. Wikipedia needs editors like him and he will be missed.Dave (talk) 20:40, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
David, it breaks my heart to hear of your passing. You are not just a rock of the Wikipedia community in New York City and beyond, but also a dear friend whose insight and advice have always been well appreciated by myself and others. I and others will always miss you, and may your memory and legacy always be a blessing for the Wikipedians of today and of the generations to come. Que descanse en paz siempre, my friend. --Sky Harbor(talk)20:47, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Oh wow, this is a shock. I served with David on the Arbitration Committee a couple of times, and knew him to be a person of great integrity and thoughtfulness. His presence on Wikipedia will be greatly missed. AGK (talk) 20:55, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
It is said that no one truly dies until their name is forgotten. David's name will live on in the minds and memories of everyone who worked with him on this project. It was an honor to work with him as an editor and to serve with him on arbcom - he was always reasonable, kind, and intelligent. With love, ♠PMC♠ (talk)20:59, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Rest in peace. I agree with PMC about in that you die twice. The beauty of Wikipedia is your legacy is perfectly preserved in pages' history and log entries. I imagine people will see your name and the positive impact of your edits for a long, long time. Rest easy, David.HouseBlastertalk21:08, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Awful news. DGG was important to Wikipedia in countless ways and will be sorely missed. One of the greats. Condolences to his family. Pichpich (talk) 21:21, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Oh, this is bad indeed, I'm deeply saddened. He was an outstanding editor whose lead I often tried to follow and example I aspired to emulate. We didn't always agree, but he was never dismissive and always ready to explain his point of view. I will miss him (and only now realise that he's been missing for a while already). In case any of his family or friends are reading this, I send you my heartfelt condolences and we could like you to know what an important figure he has been in this strange microcosm of ours. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:25, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Deeply saddened by news of David's passing. He would have disagreed with much of my outlook, but it was precisely the integrity of his character and close judgment one could intuit in his comments which earned my admiration. One needs such interlocutors, and his passing is a great loss for us all.Nishidani (talk) 22:30, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'm always literally grateful to wake up every day. To see that DGG has left us is devastating. I echo somewhat the sentiments above. We die a few times, I think. First one we physically stop, secondly when people stop remembering and talking about us. But for DGG at least there's a third stage, whereby his contributions will persist. I hate losing decent people, even those I have never met. But I'm also grateful that their earthly gift will continue way beyond their earthly presence. RIP David. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:43, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
This is devastating news. David was a great editor, one of our best. I have always respected his work with AfC and with academics and academic subjects. A major loss. May he rest in peace and condolences to his family and friends. Galobtter (talk) 23:08, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
You'd be hard-pressed to find a regular contributor who has not been positively impacted by DGG's extended reach as a dedicated and even-handed Wikipedian. I had the pleasure of working with them closely in 2020 during a very weird time in the world. My heartfelt condolences to family, friends, and colleagues. DGG's impact endures. –xenotalk23:45, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Devastating. One of the best editors I knew. I greatly respected DGG for their work, commitment and caring demeanor. Extremely sad. My condolences to his family and friends. Eddie891TalkWork00:22, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
A special friend, my mentor, a beautiful human being. I am heartbroken. Words cannot express the loss and sadness I’m feeling. Grateful that he was able to see his first grandson. Atsme💬📧00:47, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Absolutely gutted to get home from holiday travel and read this. A true mentor and guiding light. David was one of my first friends here, one of the few Wikipedia editors I met in person and the only one I ever spoke with on the phone. We FaceTimed when I returned to active editing and the pure joy in his voice about his grandson were a true light in an upside down world. Our coverage of academic topics will be lesser for your loss. Rest well my friend. You are missed. StarMississippi01:00, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Absolutely awful to hear--David was one of the best of us, and I hope his family knows how highly he was regarded in this community. Alyo(chat·edits)01:14, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
This is such sad news. David's contribution to the project is incredible, both in terms of what he did and how he did it, but what always struck me most about him was the way he carried himself at live events and at online events. Despite his achievements in the community and in his professional life, he always showed up ready to listen and learn. He was one of the people I truly admired in our community, and it's a sad loss. Guettarda (talk) 01:39, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
The best ones always leave far too soon. DGG, wherever you may be now, rest easy. Your physical manifestation may have left, but your contributions and your impact to the great communities you have been in shall live on until time itself ends. — 3PPYB6(T / C / L) — 01:58, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
This is a huge loss to the community, and I'm sure an even bigger loss for his family. I'm sorry to see David go. He was was one the best contributors - as much for his wise advice as his edits - that the community has had. I wish his family the best through this difficult time. - Bilby (talk) 02:09, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
DGG was a Wikipedia stalwart. It is hard to imagine Wikipedia without him. He was the admin most people went to with questions, as seen by the history of his talkpage which always filled up so rapidly. Even though he was scaling back recently, I cannot imagine what will fill the void he leaves. Softlavender (talk) 02:57, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I saw that there was an obituary in the upcoming Signpost and was devastated to see it was about David. This is terrible. He was one of the first Wikipedians I met in real life way back in 2014. I came to him often with questions about DraftWorld and he was always patient and helpful. Most people probably don't know this but until last year, David regularly came to the expiring draft page and "rescued" promising drafts some of which were improved and made it to main space. I've been working with expiring drafts for a few years now and, believe me, there are very few editors who spend their time improving other editors' drafts unless there is an existing relationship between the two editors, like through a WikiProject. It's a very selfless activity to spend time on improving a new editor's work. But I think what I valued most about David was his integrity, he was a true believer in Wikipedia and what it stood for. Even when I disagreed with him about certain points, I admired his unwavering belief in the value of this project. I will miss him. LizRead!Talk!03:42, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
A staggering loss for Wikipedia, DGG was always one of the editors I wished I could emulate. To family and those who knew him personally, my deepest condolences. 78.26(spin me / revolutions)03:50, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
DGG was one of the most well-known and well-respected members of our community. We have lost one of our best editors. Mz7 (talk) 06:43, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Just wanted to expand on this a bit, as DGG crossed my mind again today. There is one particular thing that he wrote which has had a profound effect on my approach to community-wide discussions on Wikipedia—and perhaps a bit in real life as well: I encourage everyone to give the section of his user page called "I do not attempt to convert my opponents--I aim at converting their audience." a read. It's the last part under User:DGG#How Wikipedia Ought to Work. In a discussion with many participants, it is often futile to try to convince individual participants to change their views. Instead of confronting your opponents directly, DGG suggests stating your opposing view with the goal of convincing future participants in the discussion, the ones that have yet to form a view and will be weighing your view versus your opponents. It is those participants you need to target in order to have the biggest impact. And if the outcome of the discussion doesn't go your way today, that's fine. At least you have stated your view today, so that future editors looking back can read it and consider it in a new light. Mz7 (talk) 09:00, 1 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
RIP. I didn't know him that well but it's clear from his body of work and the tributes above that he was one of the greatest editors here. Graham8707:32, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Very sorry to hear this. I came across DGG through AfC reviewing and although I never met him (being resident in New Zealand and not in the habit of travelling to the US!) I wish I had. His edits and advice and decisions were always so wise and well-considered. He contributed much and is greatly missed. I hope his family reads these tributes and feels great pride. MurielMary (talk) 07:53, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Had the good fortune to meet and talk with at the Wikimania in Montreal - a kind and generous person, and will be sorely missed. Condolences to family and friends. JarrahTree10:38, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Oh no! I'm so very sorry to hear this news about DGG. He was truly a great Wikipedian. It was wonderful to meet him at several WP events in in NYC over the years; I learned so much from him. My condolences go out to his loved ones. Netherzone (talk) 13:48, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Being born with the name Goodman is quite a start in life… well, David did live up to that name. I'm thankful to have "known" him here. Yes, may he rest in peace. – FayenaticLondon14:31, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
So sorry to hear this - the phrase "pillar of the community" is for once fully justified. I was lucky enough to have a good talk in Washingon at Wikimania 2012, and he was as wise and nice as you would expect. Johnbod (talk) 14:45, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Genuinely sad to hear this - I was fortunate to meet him at a couple of international Wikimedia events back in the day. He will most definitely be missed, although his impact and legacy will live on. Orderinchaos15:22, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
For those of you who use UBX and would like to remember David that way, {{User:Pdebee/UBX/RemembersAbsentFriend|DGG}} now exists. Thanks @Pdebee: for the tutorial for this novice. StarMississippi16:30, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Of all the deaths of fellow Wikipedians I've experienced in over 15 years, David's is the most deeply felt, and that takes nothing away from other editors whose passings I have noted. For I knew David so well, not just here on-wiki, in his capacity as an arbitrator, administrator and (most importantly) a fellow editor (where his input never failed to uplift any discussion he added it to), but in person through not just many, many meetings of Wikimedia—NYC, but many Wikimanias he attended ... it was not only nice to see a familiar face, and hear a familiar voice, in London and Cape Town (among others), but when he did I felt proud to be part of WM-NYC, for he represented us so well through his presence and commentary/questions, his voice the same in person as it was online, always earning the respect it always got. He is one of the few Wikipedians whose house I have visited, whose spouse I met.
David never failed to set an example for all of us to follow, and should anyone want to organize some memorial event onwiki, preferably some sort of editing event, I would want to be taking part. His signature will no longer grace our pages anew, but his influence should be felt as long as there is a Wikipedia.
I leave with one personal anecdote. I was talking with him once about the way we do things, the way we resolve controversies, and the general collaborative spirit of the project, in some narrower context. I expressed the idea that the wiki way could spread to other areas of human endeavor and that that would be the greatest success of the project.
"The greatest success of the project" David replied, "will be when everybody does things this way."
I cannot think of any better epitaph. Rest in peace.
David was one of the original and first "Wikipedia librarians", a professional who saw contributing to the encyclopedia as mirroring his professional work. He was irascible and funny, and loved to meet and talk with fellow librarians. We chatted often about libraries and Wikipedia, and how to bring the two closer together. He offered me space in his house to stay during the first WikiConference North America (and use of a metro card), and for all his gruffness he and his family were warm and welcoming. He was in every sense a great Wikipedian, librarian, mentor and friend. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 17:20, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
My deepest condolences to the family, friends, and fellow Wikipedians of David Goodman, whose tireless dedication and passion for knowledge has left an indelible mark on the global community.Whoisjohngalt (talk) 17:23, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
RIP DGG. You were the best of us. I just stuck my head back in and was working up the courage to say hello and I was just too late to let you know how much I treasured all our correspondence and collaboration. I'm a better person for knowing you. HidingT00:12, 12 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I am so sorry to hear about the devastating news. My deepest condolences to the family. DGG's passing is a great loss to the Wikipedia community and all those who knew him. It's individuals like him who make Wikipedia such an indispensable resource for people all around the world. DGG's legacy will live on through the countless contributions he made to Wikipedia and the impact he had on those he touched. His great work and helpful nature impacted many, many people. He was a mentor and a source of inspiration for me. May his soul rest in peace. RV (talk) 02:40, 12 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I served on ArbCom with DGG, and of course spoke to him many other times as well. I did not always agree with him, but even when I didn't, it struck me how thoughtful and well-reasoned his positions were. We're going to miss you a great deal. SeraphimbladeTalk to me08:59, 12 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
It is quite likely that without your advice I wouldn't have passed RfA the next year and honestly still be here today. I am glad that I was able to finally meet you in person within the past year; I'm incredibly grateful for all the work you did to make Wikimedia NYC such a welcoming community and hope the rest of us can do your legacy proud. My condolences to your family. Legoktm (talk) 03:55, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Utterly tragic. While I was on staff, David was a touchstone - when I wondered the right path, more than once I asked myself if I could face him and explain it. A scholar, a gentleman, and a giant among giants. Perpetual light shine upon him. -Philippe (talk) 07:14, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Shocked to hear about your passing. I think the legacy left behind will speak volumes about what Wikipedia represents. Truly a great loss. – The Grid (talk) 12:50, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
David and I became Wikipedians at almost the same time; my first edit was a few weeks before his, respectively in August and September 2006. Most of my contacts with David were long ago, when we were both highly active on AfD, and time and again I found myself supporting deletion while he supported keeping. As years went by, both of us underwent changes in editing patterns in different directions, and for many years now I have rarely encountered him, but when I have done so, I have found that very often he favoured deletion of pages where I preferred to keep. David himself has stated that over the years he moved towards being less of an inclusionist, and I suppose I have moved somewhat in the opposite direction. Consequently, I found myself disagreeing with him on a large proportion of the times when I came across him, one way or the other. However, he was always respectful and constructive, and his opinions, whether I agreed with them or not, were always based on rational grounds, and, despite our differences of opinion, I always had respect for him, and I believe that his death will be a major loss for Wikipedia. JBW (talk) 20:39, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I’ve been doing this for a paltry eight years and feel like a newbie poser leaving this textual analogue of a votive candle or the most expensive cut-flower bouquet from my neighborhood Trader Joe’s. But DGG was the Wikipedian analogue of, in my “real” “world”, a long-serving, thoroughly intellectually reliable federal appellate judge whose name one sighed in relief to see on an opinion.
I have a silly self-centered superstition about people who die within the same couple of days being in the same happy “orientation group” in the big fabulous university campus in the sky. I am so grateful that DGG is in the same “pledge class” with one of my greatest influences and mentors, and vice-versa, two off-the-charts-smart newbies in a crowded room, making friends with everybody from the Curies to Boswell and Johnson, Nabokov and Poe, Salk and Sabin, and Siskel and Ebert. Abyssinia. - Julietdeltalima(talk)07:44, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
While I believe that nobody is truly dead while their name is still spoken, it is sad, that from now on, we will no longer be able to speak with David or read his insightful comments and we are left with talking about what a great editor and all-around good person he was and seeing his countless contributions making Wikipedia a better place, hopefully for a long long time. SoWhy15:37, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
For so many years we butted heads from different perspectives but I don’t believe we ever genuinely failed to be on the same side and you never failed to treat me as a colleague. You may be gone but your friendship and sincerity will never fade. For so many of us, you were the best of us and we are better for you despite how diminished your passing leaves us. Rest peacefully my friend. SpartazHumbug!17:52, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
One of the most patient, compassionate, and understanding people I've ever had the privilege of interacting with. This is very sad news. Kurtis(talk)18:16, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Are you kidding me? I had the honor of working with David on ArbCom some years ago and always found it a pleasure to collaborate with him. We lost another good soul. RickinBaltimore (talk) 18:56, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
David was absolutely my first and most important mentor, well over 10 years ago. I still have a quote from him on my user page, in fact, one that helped form my way of engaging here. For me, it was a wonderful experience working with him. We had radically different ideas about life and politics, and it never got in the way because of the respect we had for each other. If anything, we both learned a little. You will be missed, old friend. Dennis Brown - 2¢23:20, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
A great editor and administrator... DGG made me a better editor back in 2008, and I have been a follower of his since, he will be missed... - Adolphus79 (talk) 22:41, 15 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Aw, man he was such an interesting guy. Will miss having him around. At least we still have his Wikipedia memories for all time. Thanks posterity. Huggums537 (talk) 17:03, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
On Saturday, Aug 28, 2010, I attended the 2nd Annual Wiki-Conference at the Interactive Telecommunications Program at NYU. This was my first wiki event; that was when I met DGG.
Immediately, I was struck by his knowledge, thoughtfulness, and demeanor. I also quickly became aware of the conviction of his beliefs.
DGG applied his experience as a University Librarian to the much less mature world of Wikipedia and the diverse and sometimes conflicting interests of community members with respect, equanimity, and grace.
DGG set a standard to which I aspire. His love of learning, teaching, and sharing was and remains an inspiration.
I really enjoyed listening to his point of view when we had 1:1 conversations at various events, the last time being August 2022 at New York City's Wikimania meetup. RIP DGG. I miss you. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:20, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
How very sad, RIP... I never met David IRL so can't really say I knew him at all; yet, I bumped into him so many times here, and read so much by and about him, that I almost feel like I did, in a way. Clearly very knowledgeable, wise, and from everything I could gather, an all-round good person. He leaves a big void, and will be missed by many. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:25, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I am sorry to hear of the death of User:DGG. In his work as an editor and administrator, I found him to be wise and compassionate. To use a probably archaic phrase, he was a true gentleperson, a paragon of Wikipedia, and his conduct was an inspiration to many. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:51, 18 April 2023 (UTC).Reply
DGG was one of those editors who made me feel so very assured I was making the right decision when he agreed with me, and made me question myself when he did not. His opinions and actions were reliably well-reasoned, articulate, and when necessary, compassionate. The community will be less for his absence. Someguy1221 (talk) 00:05, 19 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Very sad to hear this news. Condolences to his friends and family, and to all those in the New York Wikimedia community who knew him - it is clear from the tributes above and those in the obituary being drafted that he was much loved and held in great affection by those who knew him. I didn't know him as well as I would have liked (I knew him mainly through his on-wiki work and during a brief crossover point in arbitration), and don't believe I ever met him in-person (at least not properly), but he was one of the best of Wikipedians, working tirelessly to improve and advance the project. His erudition and professional background shone through in his work on Wikipedia, setting an example that will live on. RIP David. Carcharoth (talk) 02:54, 19 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Oh my man....nooooo So sad to hear your news. Oh my god. You are a great editor and legend administrator i knew. My condolences to his family and friends. Sorry i can't with my account bcs my wiki acc was lost. Pls reborn as a genius. RIP 💔. Myanmar 06:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
David was a rock, a mentor, and a friend, in that chronological order and in rapid succession. What a loss. Some people deserve a statue for their contributions to our beautiful project, and David is one of them. Through my talk page archive I see that we go back to at least 2009--in my memory he has always been there for me. Moreover, looking through those old interactions shows just how much I learned from him, and that he truly made this a better place, in terms of content and neutrality and verifiability (the man was a librarian, so of course!), but also in social terms. I met him at Wikimania in DC, we talked for a long time; last time we spoke over the phone was in the middle of the pandemic. I wish I had called him again after that. Ha, there he is, in my address book--"DGG". The name is a concept. Drmies (talk) 14:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
YES. He's in mine as DGG Wikipedia, the only name he ever needed in my world. I believe the first time we met involved Greek food and I had some in his honor on Monday, although not the same restaurant. This is such a monumental loss. StarMississippi14:46, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I had known DGG since I was a child. Wikimedia NYC meetups were a wonderful escape from the dullness of my suburban childhood, and DGG brought tremendous wisdom and dedication to whatever he did, whether online or offline. His dedication is unimpeachable. I'm devastated. Harej (talk) 17:18, 21 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I just heard. That is sad. I'll miss him greatly. I was really fond of him. He was one of most humane and rationale people I knew. I'll miss him. The family have my condolences. scope_creepTalk09:35, 22 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I mostly knew DGG from countless AfDs that we both participated in over the past 15 years; he was always thoughtful and considerate, including to me even when i used to like to go bonkers in AfD. Folks like DGG, being older than the average Wikipedian, show us (and showed me, because I needed to see it) that every day in life is a day we can be curious and contribute and enjoy.--Milowent • hasspoken15:16, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'm sorry to see this. As a clueful and experienced editor DGG was someone I learned from in areas like COI and AfD. We have not always agreed on the handling of fringe material on Wikipedia, but like right now, he was sometimes on my mind as a precious editor and I went to check if he was still active. We have never met in person but I consider those who did to be fortunate. —PaleoNeonate – 15:19, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
“The point of Wikipedia is not to do the social activism that's necessary in the world, but to provide the information that people can use who want to do social activism.” - Rest in Peace DGG, I was happy to have interviewed you.Victor Grigas (talk) 16:23, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I've only just found out about this. Sorry to hear, DGG. You were an excellent admin, ArbCom member and Wikipedian. Condolences to all who knew him here or in RL, particularly his family. - SchroCat (talk) 15:26, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
DGG was one of the first people that made me feel like I could be a part of Wikipedia. He was generous with his time and his wisdom. He was patient and bold and he taught by example. I am sad and shocked. I will miss him. JSFarman (talk) 23:05, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Did Great Good. Farewell, fellow New Yorker and virtual acquaintance. Thank you for making the world, and especially this space, a better place. StonyBrookbabble10:30, 30 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I was very sad to hear of DGG's passing. I learned a lot about how to approach Wikipedia from reading though his thoughts, expressed on his user pages and so many places through the project. To his family and close friends, my sincere condolences. May his memory be a blessing. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 16:22, 2 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
One of those editors whose comments in discussions were always worth reading, even in those long arguments when everything seems to be said and resaid a hundred times. I will miss seeing him at AfC and AfD. May he live on in his impact on the world, whether on-wiki or off. Rusalkii (talk) 22:45, 2 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Very sorry to hear this. I interacted with DGG many times without ever learning anything about him as a person. Great loss. Deb (talk) 12:05, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
So sad to hear. I meet you in Articles for Deletion many years ago, as you are Inclusionist I also found myself trying to save and improve the articles before deletion. Good Bye David. Carlosguitar(Yes Executor?)05:37, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
I just learned about this from the admin newsletter. I am so sorry to hear that you have passed away, DGG. You were an admin that I always looked up to and you will be sorely missed by the community as a whole. If your loved ones ever read this page, may they know that David's memory and contributions live on, as evidenced by his 320,869 edits. That is no small accomplishment. I am truly sorry for your loss and wish you all the best. Rest easy, DGG. --TheSandDoctorTalk19:22, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
I too just heard this unwelcome news. DGG made an immediate and lasting impact on me during my formative period when starting here. I recall how his old user page stated that he had found his life's work at Wikipedia. I recall how oddly that struck me then, and how natural it feels now. I miss this gentle soul, his imprint on the project will remain long. I think we all are lessened by his loss. XymmaxSo let it be writtenSo let it be done01:26, 4 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
So sad to hear of this news. I remember David well on here and I have learned a lot from his many insights into the project. Rest in peace. Patient Zerotalk22:57, 4 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
DGG will be missed. Condolences to his family. Not only was he great contributor but he helped many new and experienced users from near the beginning of this project. His work as an administrator has merited much praise not just for skill and neutrality but for his patient demeanor. Donner60 (talk) 01:15, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
So sorry to hear this news. DGG was always helpful, even when giving challenging guidance, a true professional and champion of quality in our Wiki world. Condolences to his family and friends, SeoR (talk) 19:30, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
I was very sad to hear of David's passing. Was a pleasure working him and was great meeting him in NYC a number of years ago. I send my condolences to his family.NativeForeignerTalk19:03, 7 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'm very sad to hear about your passing, David. I remember you as a very thoughtful and helpful person, who made Wikipedia a better place. Please find the editing tools if they are available. Cheers! -- Luktalk07:34, 11 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Wow, this is the first I've heard of it. DGG was one of the greats, I haven't been this affected by a passing since Brian Boulton. Requiescas in pace, fellow! – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 15:10, 11 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
I've worked with DGG on and off Wikipedia but never met him in person. He will be missed. A guiding light in forming my Wikipedia worldview. Condolences to his family and to all that knew and worked with him here. Hobit (talk) 03:08, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Very say when I checked your talk page and found this. Thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia, and belated condolences to your family and friends. Nil Einne (talk) 14:51, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
I just came here to ping him for input on someting and I'm sorry to hear this. Obviously a lot of editors relied on his skills too. He will be missed! - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:51, 12 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
David, I am just now hearing of your passing, I am saddened by the news, while we only had the occasional interactions on wiki, you definitely have shaped the way I do things on the project, and you will be missed. Your skills, advice, and knowledge across many different areas will be missed greatly. My sincere condolences to his family, and friends. ⓏⓟⓟⓘⓧTalk08:42, 24 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Wow. Was unaware of this until now, but you made a substantial impact on me early on in my editing here. Interacting with you at AfC was one of the first significantly positive interactions I had on Wikipedia, and I owe you one for convincing me (whether you realized it or not) to stick around. Thank you. AviationFreak💬22:28, 26 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Good heavens, just heard of this myself. DGG and I ... we collaborated, we clashed, we debated, but he was one of the Wikipedians I always respected and whose views were always worth taking seriously and mindfully. This is a loss to our project, but far more to his family and friends. Rest well, David. We won't see your like again. Ravenswing 07:48, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I just saw this mentioned and immediately felt my heart sink. I have taken the last hour or so to look over all the messages here and there are so many describing interactions and discussions with David. I can't help but feel the immense sorrow flood in over the loss of this connection. So many messages about all of his accomplishments in editing here and it does remind us that editing is our chief purpose for being here. We build the encyclopedia to leave a lasting example for current and future generations and hope there will be those that will take up the torch once we pass. But David was so much more than just an editor. He had such a kindness and understanding and it only grew with his experience. So many of us lose sight of that and its easy to become jaded in such a complex world but David championed this cause and lead by example. No doubt each one commenting here has at least one interaction with David that reflects this over the years. His is a light that will never be extinguished because we carry it in our hearts and minds and will never let it go out. His Lifesong is forever a part of ours. David, you will be missed but not forgotten. --ARoseWolf16:36, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'm another late arrival upon this somber news, and frankly surprised that I missed the shockwaves from this one. Unlike some of our other visible losses in recent years, I did not often run into DGG out in the wilds of content work--different areas of interest, I suppose. As such, I didn't have much occasion to converse with him and establish a huge degree of direct rapport. Even so, in community spaces I frequently saw him bring considerable insight and a thoughtful perspective to discussions, and over time his is definetly a name that I had come to associate with quality contributions and a considered, deliberate, and purposeful approach. He clearly put a lot of care into figuring out how he saw a given issue, and then even more consideration into how to relate that outlook. I honestly never saw him comment that he didn't seem like a steady hand, ever respectful of the consequences of his words and positions. These are qualities I respect not just in a Wikipedian, but in a person of good moral conscious, who makes themselves valuable to their fellow person. I'm heartened to see from the above that this worth does not seem to have been lost on the community as a whole: this is one community member whose example we should not soon forget. SnowRise let's rap06:22, 8 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I only just discovered this today... so sad. My belated condolences go out to David's family and friends. Thank you for your many years of service - rest in peace. --Drm310🍁 (talk) 22:12, 13 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'm saddended to see this, He was an amazing admin and editor - always polite, patient and would always help anyone and everyone, A true loss to Wikipedia, Thank you for your service. RIP David, My sincere condolences to friends and family, –Davey2010Talk00:22, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for sharing this news. I was shocked when I stumbled upon it. David was so kind and welcoming to me back in 2016 when we met. it was clear he was a juggernaut among Wikipedians in NYC and beyond as a photographer. A great loss and yet a person whose memory lives on in so many who remain in the community. Rest in Power, @DGG!
I just learned about DGG's passing by chance – I'm so sorry to hear this. I recall DGG's guidance from my early days on WP – always thoughtful, considerate and friendly. DGG, you were an example to follow. Rest in peace. — kashmīrīTALK18:40, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
I had the chance to meet David at NYC Wiki-Conference 2009 and we had a short debate about the balance between privacy and the "right to be forgotten" - while we were largely on different sides of the position, his disagreement was very respectful. His contribution to Wikipedia and related projects exceeds his 300,000+ edit count (bolstered by thoughtful comments on AfD and AiN) - e.g. obviously ArbCom, but also participation in SWAN. The community is less for his passing. GreenReaper (talk) 13:45, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
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One of the greats. Thank you so much for all your help to a new editor and your endless patience with my many failings. Your memory is and will always be a blessing. Ad Orientem (talk) 21:06, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
To say I am saddened by these news really doesn't say it well enough. There really aren't words to describe DGG's contributions here. On Arbcom, a voice for giving every Wikipedian the most benefit of the doubt within reason. That policy is there to enhance the Wikipedia experience - to bring editors together, not to punish and push away. Often in content discussions we agreed - his was a strong voice for not burning down what has been built. But even when, sometimes, his sense of purity for inclusion differed with my perspective about "pruning the tree to improve health", he made clear his perspective, and was fairly consistent, and was always willing to talk it out. (And could compete with the best of us for large blocks of explanatry text : ) - His is definitely a voice that will be missed. - jc3703:36, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
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@Fayenatic london I saw you took care of this one, which may have been a typo. As we did with Possibly, happy to work on any drafts David had in progress. Can anyone with better search skills help pull a list? @Netherzone @CT55555 and I managed to rescue all of Possibly's drafts before they were G13ed or after an undelete, I think and I think everyone here would be happy to make sure anything David was working on makes mainspace if possible. StarMississippi13:39, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I rescued a second link to another of DGG's user pages, which he had merged. The remaining red link under User:DGG#Possible essays is to a 2009 page of notes about a user interface beta, which he later deleted as no longer relevant. – FayenaticLondon15:18, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
The draft was originally created as an autobiography back in 2009 which DGG saved for rewriting. It's largely unsourced and seems to contain lots of OR by original creator. It may have to be pruned to a short article, but looking at the artist's exhibition record, reviews and collections (at least so far on the artists website) he would meet both GNG and NARTIST if independent sources can be found. I'll see what's out there. Netherzone (talk) 18:07, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
One of the most important things I learned from DGG was WP:V, and its primary importance in deletion discussions. For that I am eternally grateful. Working from some of the sources in the article on Spanish Wikipedia, and Google searches, I was able to add some verifiable citations in reliable sources, most of which are news sources dealing with his work being censored, but also a couple reviews. The artist clearly meets WP:GNG based on these. I was unable to verify any of the Collections the artist lists on their website nor do they appear to be notable collections - no museums, mainly hotels and corporate collections), so at this time, it's doubtful if he meets WP:NARTIST. I've tagged the remaining unsourced content with "citation needed" templates; the bulk of the article remains unsourced. I could move the unsourced content to the talk page or leave it as is, whatever the community decides is the best approach. Netherzone (talk) 20:28, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
You've nailed the core of what we've lost in David, and SlimVirgin. The true fundamentals of the project. While we mourn both, I think the impact of their absence is still to come. StarMississippi20:59, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Looking at the history, it was originally created by User:Luogang.china and moved to DGG's user space to attempt to salvage it from various deficiencies. Since Libra (Academic Search) exists as a redirect, I think this can be deleted. It will not be worked on, and is not significant to DGG's legacy like his original drafts and various essays. BD2412T01:39, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I think so too. I left it in place initially with just the talk page note in case someone thought a history merge was needed. On further review, I don't think so. StarMississippi01:44, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I have boldly gone ahead and deleted the draft and talk page. Our focus should be on improving the drafts that can add value to the encyclopedia. If anyone disagrees, I suppose they can restore (or request restoration). BD2412T02:21, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
History of Jews in American banking and Jewish stereotypes in banking and finance both seems almost ready to publish; I suspect DGG didn't consider them complete but they're far above my personal standards for an article. I'm going to move some undeveloped sections to the talk page and then move to mainspace, unless there are any objections.
Also, thoughts on nominating one or both for DYK? A little worried that the topic will attract vandalism if given visibility. Rusalkii (talk) 20:14, 6 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hmm, okay, looking at the history both were userifyied and then had very little work done. I'm honestly confused about this decision but not going to move back without substantive changes. Rusalkii (talk) 20:16, 6 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
I went back nine years and they all were. There were a few that were live drafts because someone else had built on the draft redirect post-AfC acceptance, but there are no live drafts started by DGG as articles. BD2412T19:10, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for that dig!
From areas in which I worked with him, I knew David to more assist content that needed some TLC and expertise rather than necessarily start from scratch. When he did the latter, it was normally in mainspace. StarMississippi20:07, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Wow, thanks for looking into that! Are you saying that you saw some that he actually put effort into working on, even though he was not the originator of the draft? Just want to make sure I'm not misunderstanding. BOZ (talk) 21:13, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I would suggest that when someone has their own way of organising their userspace (I say this as someone who has never really organised my own userspace properly), maybe browse through the pages to see what may be worth preserving or using elsewhere (presuming that is even appropriate)? I noticed some notes he made for talks he gave (one of these is a video up at the top of this talk page). Maybe some of the essays as well. But most do seem to be just notes for his own personal use, so it is difficult to know what (if anything) to do with them. Unless he had known plans for them, sometimes it is best to leave it as it is, unless someone has a very specific plan for reuse/publication, with appropriate credit. Carcharoth (talk) 03:04, 19 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
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I've taken the liberty of re-adding DGG's archive header to the talk page, because his talk page archiving system is otherwise fairly difficult to make sense of without it. He removed it in this edit (warning: huuuuuuge diff!), whether intentionally or not I of course don't know. I hope this action is OK. Graham8719:19, 15 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Rest in peace
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You're always in my prayers! Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Your kindness will never be forgotten. Regards RV (talk) 17:59, 25 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
A barnstar for you!
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I never met you in person but I interacted with you quite a bit years ago when I was getting started on this site (circa 2013), and I was very saddened just now to learn that you had passed away. Rest in peace. IntoThinAir (talk) 01:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
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David, I think of you often and wish we could have had one more phone call or I'd make it back to the meetups. My thoughts are with your loved ones. For those of us on wiki, anyone feel like a mini drive for David? Brooklyn, library, academic. I think he'd appreciate any or all efforts. I'm still on and offline so wanted to kick this off early for any ideas. StarMississippi02:51, 21 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Myanmar 06:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
The redirect Security & Privacy has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 18 § Security & Privacy until a consensus is reached. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)