you guys act like living is for free. You will always have some sort of price to pay for living and I'm not talking about funding big police, I'm talking about keeping the minimum required justice so people don't murder fuck each other to death unpunished

Corporations can't exist without a state. By definition, corporations are firms that are given legal protections. The closest thing to a corporation in a freed market would be a trust, which is not the same thing

No, we don't act like living is free, living is a cost, just like everything else.

this is a complete non sequitor

@The_NothingForEverything Yep

@Jeebus Yeah that is

We don't need to point guns at each other for justice to be a thing.

I'm talking about keeping the rules to NAP and the justice system only retaliating for offended partys in cases of murder rape theft and all that stuff im not talking about keeping corporations

You can't uphold the NAP if you're violating to enforce it

^

how are you violating it? Defense isn't violating it

What the argument can be deduced down to is simply "since mafias could fall, let's just make one single mafia with special privileges, expect it to protect us, and allow itself access to a little fruits of out labor"

GG @Wes The Savage, you just advanced to level 8!

Coercion

it's about helping people defend themselves who couldn't

Coercion

How is that defense funded in a statist society? By aggression

Monopoly of Law Making and Coercion

@ayy lmao And you need to coerce people to do that, how exactly?

no??

Yeah

by voulentary funding

Then it's a firm

not a state

Sure

you're an anarchist then

i'm down for voluntarily funding this

congrats

Then you're advocating a fucking panarchist society, not an absolute statist position

Which is the only way a Minarchist's positions could hold

and also not violate the NAP

can I please explain my views without 5 people snapping in vetween I can't even answer ;_;

there is so many points I wanna make

protip: use shift+enter for a line break. makes structuring your messages here easier.

panarchist would come quite close man

actually

@ayy lmao my bad m8

yeah I'm a mobile pleb my dude

Please do so then, I wasn't snapping at you, I don't think any of us are, we were criticising your analogies and your arguments, but please go ahead and explain

no shifts here

nonono not snapping in a negative way