No problem, I was just curious

It needs to be low enough that passing the quorum is almost always a significant risk

In that case who's against the referendum will not campaign for not voting, because they risk losing with a ~95% vote and that doesn't look good

Look at the history of Italian referenda

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_in_Italyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_in_Italy

(the popular ones, which implement a 50% participation quorum system)

And see how many just didn't meet the quorum

Then look at how many won with a 90%+ vote

The only case in which both Yes and No campaigns went to vote is when the issue was very contested and it was well known that a lot of people would vote

Not only, if people against the referendum campaign for not voting, voting No basically helps the Yes campaign, as retarded as that sounds

Because by helping meet the quorum they make the referendum pass.

I hope I've been clear

from 1997 to now the only referendum that we passed was this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_referendums,_2011, and it passed with a 95.4% Yes vote. Which doesn't represent the actual amount of people that wanted it to pass, because most people that didn't want it to pass just didn't vote.

Also it's problematic because you can see who goes to vote and who doesn't, so voting is not secret anymore, as it's clear that if you go vote you support Yes

OK, i see. And while I think this problem would be slightly medicated by the fact that referendums would not be set during their own special elections, but instead thrown onto the ballot of the next scheduled election, I can still see how everything you mentioned would still be a problem. Thanks for the help.

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but what about tudor

no.

yes

tudor best

no.

tudor rules

no.

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they evidently did

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tfw even if you take into account the "rural-urban divide" the rates are higher

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