I think IE branding as aggressively normal is a good move. But wider dissident movement needs to keep the edge

Je suis normie

I’m not sure we’re all using the same definition

What is a normie

I play both roles depending on audience

TRS lingo is just a bad idea in general

its dumb

just talk like a normal person

Wasn’t there a recent article about balancing inside culture of a political group with the ability to appeal to the mainstream??

This reminds me of that comic where every person in the panel is thinking “wow I bet these people aren’t even aware of anything”

Yeah, political identity paradox

If you become too subcultural you lose

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That’s the civil way to say it yeah

we're becoming too subcultural

I suppose I could have taken that route

My bad fellas

I always thought normie was a term for people with mainstream political opinion, culture, and likes/dislikes. A girl is a normie if she likes starbucks for example. With this definition it's clear we're not "normies" in the sense that we dont abide to mainstream ideology, but we ARE normal people in the sense that we live normal lifestyles

But you become too mainstream then who cares

Average people don't want to join something like IE until it's socially acceptable to do so. You're all different from the norm because whether you like it or not, were not socially acceptable by the status quo. THATS ALL IM SAYING PEOPLE.

I'm gonna get off now

Like it or not, a very large percentage of people are unwilling and/or incapable of differing from the majority, comfortable opinion. Those people are "normies."

Yeah we gotta remember what we are. We’re not some leet hacker meme group, we’re literally just white people trying to peacefully exist as white people lmao

That's just the reality of humanity.

the ohioan is right

*ranch dressing intensifies*

Yeah, maybe they outwardly express popular opinion, but again, we don’t know what’s going on through people’s heads

I was a complete shit lib with nationalist thoughts for years

I'm a normie at work.

IE should brand as normies but stay plugged into broader dissident meme culture that keeps the normie distinction. Like how socialists accomplished all the goals of communism while using communism as proof they were normal.

I believe the correct denomyn of Ohioans is "Buckeyes"

Muh corn and buckeyes

Since identity online is non unitary you can literally have it both ways if you have the headspace for it.

Pepsi is correct insofar as the "average" person might not feel comfortable joining a taboo group. The danger here -- and I'm not accusing him of this -- is creating an in-group (people with our views) vs. out-group (people without our views) distinction, and then saying "there's no use appealing to normies." People use that as an excuse to be careless and remain fringe.

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I'm a normie in the streets, and a normie at home too

A similar issue is defining "the movement" as us and every other taboo right-wing group in society.

"The movement is IE, TWP, and Patrick Little!" is still how some people think.

I consider us an identitarian wing of the broader populist movement in America.

I think our views are pretty normal. If you really pry into the head of any middle class white person they’re thinking this

More emphasis on the identitarian definition.