Well, does not help that the people we want in politics dont want to be in it

You get the power hungry and the greedy, since they are the ones with the initiative to run for it

@Deleted User are you suggesting that the only moral choices are to help others? I recently read Atlas Shrugged, and the objectivists would argue that altruism is actually immoral.

And well, people dont like to be forced into a duty they did not wish for

@WOODY I would say that helping others in of itself is a virtuous thing to do that lines up with Western Values, but Democrats and the left has taken it to an extreme, slowly and progressively in the last 50 years

What if say it was a difference in empathy then?

Or to whom the altruism was directed against?

Like the Repubs being American citizens, especially the vets and the homeless, while to the Dems, minorities

@Deleted User I would agree that it aligns with Western values, but disagree that it is virtuous to sacrifice your own values and happiness for others. The democrats are merely taking this principle towards it's logical conclusion. Just as the Socialists in Russia did.

Oh god, @Timcast We need a discussion channel

please

@Deleted User @WOODY Helping others is something that's heavily emphasized by Christian values, upon which most of Western civilization is built, but the main focus of Christianity's "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is the poor and disabled that are right in front of you, as opposed to the Democrats' "Oh no, these people halfway around the world are so disadvantaged! We must help them!"

Unless this is the room

perhaps swapping over to <#398973785426100234>

for now

Then dunno if its right to call it te Newsroom

@Timcast At this point I'd almost recommend creating a new <#398858182455459853> and renaming this channel

Cause this will be the first shit people see when they join

Oh god

like Tommy C 😉

I agree

@GingaBomber I think you mean 10 minutes after they join

They will see it

I think.

Well they can see it, 10 mins is just before they can reply

I don't know if I wasn't able to see anything for 10 minutes or everybody was just silent for >10 minutes when I joined last night

no, I could see people typing when I first joined

@Revan earlier all channels were without history

for users

maybe it was that

Yeah, that's true

Maybe that was it

Well, I can say that with confidence.

i could type right away but i joined yesterday

@Timcast any mods can we have a channel for discussion/debate please? a voice channel would be good too.

Hey everyone!
Just joined today

Wanted to say hi

Hellow

hi

Shh hes working