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taxon synonym of
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science
| Description | taxon item (considered a preferred name according to a given reference) of which this taxon name is a synonym - the new property will be the inverse property of taxon synonym (P1420) |
|---|---|
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | instance of (P31) = taxon (Q16521) |
| Example 1 | Inocybe acutofulva (Q107800296) needs property "taxon synonym of" -> Inosperma acutofulvum (Q125928529). |
| Example 2 | Umbelliferae (Q10387485) needs property "taxon synonym of" -> Apiaceae (Q145794). |
| Example 3 | Littorina nebulosa (Q10567953) needs property "taxon synonym of" -> Littoraria nebulosa (Q3173727). |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Taxonomy (Q8503033) |
Motivation
[edit]The taxonomy data structure currently uses property of (P642), but that property is now deprecated (see discussions starting from Property_talk:P642#Essay:_P642_considered_harmful). Property taxon synonym (P1420) requires an inverse which presently needs P642; this was discussed here and here in the taxonomy project and the conclusion was that we should change to use a new inverse property "taxon synonym of". See also Wikidata:WikiProject Data Quality/Issues/P642, where this property is needed for use case i21 (use cases i22-i24 will need 3 similar properties). Strobilomyces (talk) 17:55, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
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Support Long overdue, it will be a good subtitute for "instance of synonym" or "subject has role synonym of", and will allow to the visitor of an item to know, without to click anywhere, if the taxon is or not a synonym. As well said by Strobilomyces, this new property should have a "citation needed" constraint, but I guess we can add it when the property is created. Christian Ferrer (talk) 04:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)- Support This new property will make it clear that the "taxon synonym" property is intended to be asymmetrical. If the proposal is approved, users should be careful not to automatically add it based on existing "taxon synonym" statements without a supporting reference. Kbseah (talk) 09:23, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Neutral constructs like synonym (Q1040689) of (P642) should simply removed. It makes no sense to list synonyms that way. The reference should allways be placed at taxon synonym (P1420). --Succu (talk) 20:46, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think the inverse property is for interactive users of the system, for whom it may be important to know that the name they are using is not the only one or not the latest one (according to some authority). Without the inverse property, such a user has no way to know about the synonymy without actively deciding to make a relevant query. Common species-level attributes, such as photos and Wikipedia links, are likely to be missed. Strobilomyces (talk) 16:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Strobilomyces: This is not an inverse property. --Succu (talk) 20:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps my terminology is not good, though I didn't say it was an inverse functional property. Strobilomyces (talk) 07:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Strobilomyces: This is not an inverse property. --Succu (talk) 20:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think the inverse property is for interactive users of the system, for whom it may be important to know that the name they are using is not the only one or not the latest one (according to some authority). Without the inverse property, such a user has no way to know about the synonymy without actively deciding to make a relevant query. Common species-level attributes, such as photos and Wikipedia links, are likely to be missed. Strobilomyces (talk) 16:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Strobilomyces, Christian Ferrer, Kbseah, Succu:
Done as taxon synonym of (P12763). Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 13:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)