Wikidata:Property proposal/follows spelling paradigm
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follows spelling paradigm
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes
| Description | spelling rule, pattern or paradigm followed by this form |
|---|---|
| Represents | spelling paradigm (Q125166496) |
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | lexeme forms, in particular forms with spelling alternatives |
| Example 1 | websites (L1127-F2)→compound integration paradigm (Q125166647) Web sites (L1127-F4)→discrete component paradigm (Q125167184) |
| Example 2 | Fanklub (L753321-F15)→phonographic consistency paradigm (Q125166871) Fanclub (L753321-F7)→phonographic preservation paradigm (Q125167415) |
| Example 3 | Schawarma (L773146-F1)→phonographic consistency paradigm (Q125166871) Shawarma (L773146-F2)→phonographic preservation paradigm (Q125167415) |
| Example 4 | غَايبَة (L706449-F2)→CODA* (Q125475705) |
| Example 5 | Kuss/Kuß (L226874-F1)→German orthography reform of 1996 (Q666027) |
Motivation
[edit]Can be used to group spelling variants in a lexeme. –Shisma (talk) 10:13, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
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Comment @Shisma: I see you just created these spelling paradigm items. Do you have a reference on this topic? Can a form be said to follow more than one of them at the same time? Is there a comprehensive list of them somewhere? ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @ArthurPSmith:: I have no reference. I made them all up myself. I'm open for suggestions. Yes, a form can follow more then one paradigm: for instance Shishacafé, das has all 4 combinations from the example above.–Shisma (talk) 07:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. I mean, I think this makes some sense, but I'd be more comfortable supporting it if it was an existing standard rather than what seems like "original research" - not that we ban that, but still there are reasons to be cautious when creating something new like this... ArthurPSmith (talk) 13:19, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. I'd expect something like this exists, but some scientific backing would be better. – Shisma (talk) 13:24, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @ArthurPSmith:, would you like to give your opinion? Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 13:34, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not ready to support without more background info, it's not something I have any special expertise in. ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:24, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- @ArthurPSmith:, would you like to give your opinion? Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 13:34, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. I'd expect something like this exists, but some scientific backing would be better. – Shisma (talk) 13:24, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. I mean, I think this makes some sense, but I'd be more comfortable supporting it if it was an existing standard rather than what seems like "original research" - not that we ban that, but still there are reasons to be cautious when creating something new like this... ArthurPSmith (talk) 13:19, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @ArthurPSmith:: I have no reference. I made them all up myself. I'm open for suggestions. Yes, a form can follow more then one paradigm: for instance Shishacafé, das has all 4 combinations from the example above.–Shisma (talk) 07:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi all! It seems very useful to me to connect forms spelled in some way to the rules which their spelling follows. I would also like to be able to express for example:
- غَايبَة (L706449-F2)follows set of spelling rulesCODA* (Q125475705)
- Kuss/Kuß (L226874-F1)follows set of spelling rulesGerman orthography reform of 1996 (Q666027)
- Would this proposed property allow to express the meaning needed in the given two examples? Thanks in advance, --Marsupium (talk) 01:45, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I would say that this is the case. as for the wording: I assume that a set of spelling rules could be described as spelling paradigm. 🤷
- I would incorporate your examples into the proposal if you agree.– Shisma (talk) 08:01, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, including it sounds great! And thanks for the reply! --Marsupium (talk) 09:07, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Support per discussion just above. --Marsupium (talk) 09:07, 15 April 2024 (UTC)- @Shisma, ArthurPSmith, Marsupium:
Done as follows spelling pattern (P12657). Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 07:38, 21 April 2024 (UTC)