Wikidata:Property proposal/The Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture ID

Islamic Art and Architecture ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: Islamic Art and Architecture ID (P12757) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a subject page in The Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture (Q116231077)
Represents	The Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture (Q116231077)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	Islamic art (Q189594), Islamic architecture (Q212940)
Allowed values	[0-9]\d*
Example 1	Algeria (Q262) → 57
Example 2	Algiers (Q3561) → 58
Example 3	Africa (Q15) → 28
Example 4	Aghlabids (Q207600) → 32
Example 5	Hafsid dynasty (Q752662) → 365
Source	https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780195309911.001.0001/acref-9780195309911
Number of IDs in source	more than 1,600 entries
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that does not imply notability (Q62589320)
Formatter URL	https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref:oiso/9780199739356.001.0001/acref-9780199739356-e-$1
See also	Oxford Reference overview ID (P12582)
Applicable "stated in"-value	The Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture (Q116231077)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Authority control (Q88300058), WikiProject Islam (Q5496999), WikiProject Arts (Q14942897), WikiProject Architecture (Q5496595)

Motivation

Vladimir Alexiev Jonathan Groß Andy Mabbett Jneubert Sic19 Wikidelo ArthurPSmith PKM Ettorerizza Fuzheado Daniel Mietchen Iwan.Aucamp Epìdosis Sotho Tal Ker Bargioni Carlobia Pablo Busatto Matlin Msuicat Uomovariabile Silva Selva 1-Byte Alessandra.Moi CamelCaseNick Songceci moz AhavaCohen Kolja21 RShigapov Jason.nlw MasterRus21thCentury NGOgo Pierre Tribhou Ahatd JordanTimothyJames Silviafanti Back ache AfricanLibrarian M.roszkowski Rhagfyr 沈澄心 MrBenjo S.v.Mering Hiperterminal (talk) מקף Lovelano Ecravo Chado07 Soufiyouns

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: Highly authoritative source in The Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture (Q116231077) (URL: https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780195309911.001.0001/acref-9780195309911). --Soufiyouns (talk) 14:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Support - PKM (talk) 01:21, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
•  Comment Note, content from this resource is also included in Grove Art Online, available through the Wikipedia Library. See [1]. the Grove Art Online IDS are different from the Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture IDs. PKM (talk) 01:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
• @ZI Jony:Not ready given that it doesn't have a description that you could copy. Wikitext does not work in descriptions. I find the length of the property name also a bit questionable. Why does it need to be so long that it doesn't fit in the space in which our property names usually fit? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 12:25, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

  @Soufiyouns:, could you please clarify the comments above. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 12:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

  @ChristianKl: Here is the desired description: Identifier for a subject page in The Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture (Q116231077).

There are also other examples of properties with quite long names (more than 7 words):

1. Encyclopedia of French Cultural Heritage in North America ID (English) (P9357)
2. The Encyclopedia of Oklahoma History and Culture ID (P7723)
3. The Digital Local Culture Encyclopedia of Korea ID (P7773)
4. EH.Net Encyclopedia of Economic and Business History ID (P7996)
5. Encyclopedia on Early Childhood Development ID (English) (P8015)
6. Encyclopedia of the History of Ukraine ID (P8935)
7. Das wissenschaftliche Bibellexikon im Internet ID (P9336)

Regards. Soufiyouns (talk) 12:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Soufiyouns:, it is really necessary to keep long name? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 13:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@ZI Jony: I prefer that we keep a long name for this property, and we will add abbreviated names in the section "Also known as" after its creation, because this long name is related to the reference work The Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture (Q116231077), and this will facilitate the search by keywords in Wikidata. Regards. Soufiyouns (talk) 13:22, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Names in the aliases are searched in a similar way as labels when a user searches by keyword. The label exists for what's displayed on pages. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 16:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Soufiyouns:, could you please clarify the comments above by @ChristianKl:. As I understand, his main concern in long name! You may also use "Islamic Art and Architecture ID". Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 12:42, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

•  Comment @ChristianKl, ZI Jony: I just changed the title of the proposal to the short and abbreviated version "Islamic Art and Architecture ID". Regards. --Soufiyouns (talk) 12:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
• @Soufiyouns, PKM, ChristianKl:  Done as Islamic Art and Architecture ID (P12757). Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 07:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)