Wikidata:Property proposal/PubMed author ID

PubMed author ID

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   Under discussion

Description	identifier for an author on the website PubMed
Represents	PubMed (Q180686)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	Persons
Allowed values	[0-9\_]+
Example 1	Stephen Hawking (Q17714) → Hawking+SW
Example 2	Amel Talamali (Q124538306) → Talamali+A
Example 3	Elias Zerhouni (Q3050945) → Zerhouni+E
Source	https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=$1
See also	PubMed publication ID (P698)
Proposed by	Soufiyouns

Motivation

WikiProject Authority control has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead.: I propose to create a new property for the website PubMed (Q180686) (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/) which is a sizeable catalog of scientific authors. --Soufiyouns (talk) 13:47, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Oppose. This is not a unique identifier.--GZWDer (talk) 13:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
•  Oppose This is a search term, not an identifier; see [1], for example. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
•  Oppose search term, not unique identifier. --Epìdosis 15:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

  @GZWDer, Pigsonthewing, Epìdosis: Thank you very much for your feedbacks. I also point out that the PubMed website gives you a Formatter URL like this:

  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=$1&cauthor_id=$2

  Example:

  Stephen Hawking (Q17714):

  $1=Hawking+SW

  $2=9958757

  URL=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Hawking+SW&cauthor_id=9958757

  I think this website still needs some improvements in order to discern all the authors and thus obtain unique identifiers that can be exploited by Wikidata properties. Regards. Soufiyouns (talk) 07:11, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

  This still does not make it an identifier. See example. GZWDer (talk) 10:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

  @GZWDer: I think that a database as large as PubMed, with its millions of high-quality references, would deserve that we look even more closely at its specific case, and why not tolerate a few occurrences if the interest for Wikidata proves its usefulness, and that the benefit of a majority of unique identified authors will be valued without any redundancy. It is a statistical compromise where the advantage of validating Wikidata data should outweigh the few homonymous cases that are not the general rule. Perhaps if we create this property, the administrators of the PubMed website will be asked to migrate their author URL Formatter to a more adequate and useful expression for our needs in the Wikidata project. Regards. Soufiyouns (talk) 13:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)