Wikidata:Property proposal/NYARC Discovery ID
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NYARC Discovery ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control
| Description | record for a publication held by the New York Art Resources Consortium (NYARC) in New York City |
|---|---|
| Represents | New York Art Resources Consortium (Q17148329) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | work of art (Q838948) |
| Allowed values | b\d+ |
| Example 1 | Portrait of a Gentleman, with a view of a Garden (Q97383527) -> b1508031 |
| Example 2 | A Little Girl and Her Nurse (Q97386443) -> b1508071 |
| Example 3 | Portrait of Don Manuel de Menens (Q97940919) -> b1564405 |
| Example 4 | The Standard Bearer (Q97941155) -> b1502940 |
| Source | see member websites (Brooklyn Museum, Frick, MoMa) |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
| Planned use | update museum and other catalogs already on Wikidata with provenance information |
| Number of IDs in source | more than a million |
| Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
| Formatter URL | https://arcade.nyarc.org/record=$1 |
| See also | Base Arcade artwork ID (P4764) (I believe this other arcade property should be renamed) |
Motivation
[edit]We have RKDimages ID (P350) and this would be useful too. Jane023 (talk) 08:52, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Discussion
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WikiProject sum of all paintings has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead..
Notified participants of WikiProject France. Jane023 (talk) 12:14, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Question @Jane023 How would you condider the applicable domain of the property? All your examples are reproduction of paintings in the Frick photoarchives. But I can see there are also numerous books/catalogs (those more like RKDlibrary ID (P4989)), as well as "artist files" from different sources, and potentially a number of different other media types. --Nono314 (talk) 17:13, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Well I am only able to judge the accuracy of the paintings, and I poked around but I couldn't figure out how to get the artists out (so a RKDartists type of property isn't possible, but a search on "last, first" does give some nice alternate spellings). The catalog info seems a bit sparse, to be honest, but if you think it should be a more general domain, then that's fine. I didn't check extensively for objects like furniturer, decorative arts, or anthing else. I stumbled on this because I was working on the Barings/Northbrook provenance list. Jane023 (talk) 07:04, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your answer. I just wanted to ask because the proposal didn't explicitly set the domain. As said below I'm perfectly fine with the paintings (or artworks, as there are also some sculptures).--Nono314 (talk) 16:13, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Well I am only able to judge the accuracy of the paintings, and I poked around but I couldn't figure out how to get the artists out (so a RKDartists type of property isn't possible, but a search on "last, first" does give some nice alternate spellings). The catalog info seems a bit sparse, to be honest, but if you think it should be a more general domain, then that's fine. I didn't check extensively for objects like furniturer, decorative arts, or anthing else. I stumbled on this because I was working on the Barings/Northbrook provenance list. Jane023 (talk) 07:04, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Support especially for painting reproductions. They indeed provide useful research data for paintings outside main museums, even if caveats apply (just randomly picking a handful of them, I spotted outdated entries for decades, mismatched institutions and mangled text) --Nono314 (talk) 17:13, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- From what I have seen, I believe these are digitized entries of old auction sales that took place in New York City (also possibly paintings formerly on show in member museums). Jane023 (talk) 07:07, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
