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‎NLI Newspaper Collection ID

Under discussion

Description	Identifier for a periodical in the newspapers collections of the of the National Library of Israel
Represents	The National Library Newspaper Collection (Q130459321)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	periodical (Q1002697)
Example 1	ha-Modiʻa (Q16128641) –> hmd
Example 2	Q31197462 –> ytlv
Example 3	El Horria (Q16128711) –> llb
Example 4	Q113190844 –> awqat
Example 5	The Detroit Jewish News (Q7729873) –> detroitjn
Example 6	Ha-Karmel (Q12406639) –> hcr
Example 7	⁨⁨L'Aurore⁩⁩ (Q111169345) –> lauror
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that suggests notability (Q62589316)
Formatter URL	https://www.nli.org.il/he/newspapers/$1 OR https://www.nli.org.il/ar/newspapers/$1 OR https://www.nli.org.il/en/newspapers/$1
See also	Trove newspaper ID (P5603), Chronicling America newspaper ID (P4898), Newspapers.com paper ID (P7259)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation

English: The The National Library Newspaper Collection (Q130459321) is an very useful resource and has scans available for many hundreds of newspapers and periodicals, including historical Jewish publications from around the world, as well as Hebrew and Arabic-language publications published in Mandatory Palestine (Q193714) and Israel (Q801). It will be helpful for this information to be cross-linked to Wikidata, and thus also be easily available on any interested Wikipedia. לוכסן (talk) 16:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

עברית: The National Library Newspaper Collection (Q130459321) שימושי במיוחד וכולל גרסאות סרוקות של עיתונים וכתבי עת רבים, לרבות עיתונות יהודית שיצאה לאור ברחבי העולם וגם עיתונים בעברית ובערבית שיצאו לאור בMandatory Palestine (Q193714) ובIsrael (Q801). יועיל שמידע זה ייכלל בוויקינתונים ומשם גם בוויקיפדיה העברית ובוויקיפדיות אחרות. לוכסן (talk) 16:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 05:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

עברית: מתייג את User:Geagea ואת User:AhavaCohen. לוכסן (talk) 16:30, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

עברית: @לוכסן, לא כל כך הבנתי למה זה ישמש ואיך.

Geagea (talk) 17:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Geagea: שתי סיבות: א) זה עוזר בזיהוים של פריטי ויקינתונים על עיתונים (לפעמים יש כמה עיתונים בעלי שם דומה וגישה לזה עוזר), ב) בוויקיפדיה העברית, יש כבר קישורים לדף הזה בערכים רבים על עיתונים וכתבי עת. עם נוסיף את זה לוויקינתונים, נוכל ליצור את הקישורים האלה אוטומטית ובקלות וויקיפדיות אחרות יוכלו לנצל את זה גם. לוכסן (talk) 17:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

מזהה עיתון לא מספיק צריך גם תאריך ומזהה כתבה. מזהה עיתון עצמו לא נותן קישור. Geagea (talk) 17:45, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Geagea: מצטער, תן לי לדייק. מטרתי לקשר מהערך על, נגיד, "על המשמר" לאוסף המלא של כל המהדורות הסרוקות של העיתון. אני לא מתכוון להשתמש בזה כדי לקשר למהדורה מסוימת של העיתון בהקשר של הערת שוליים. בערך על המשמר בפרט, כבר יש קישור כזה בראש הפרק "קישורים חיצוניים" (הקישור לעיתונות היהודית ההיסטורית). לוכסן (talk) 18:01, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

לכל עיתון יש פריט ויקינתונים (אם אין לו אז אפשר ליצור). אפשר לקשר לפריט. הפריט יכול לכלות קישור לאתר הספרייה. לא חושב שצריך בשביל זה מזהה. Geagea (talk) 18:24, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Geagea: מבחינתי, זה לא קישור כלשהו אלא קישור ארכיוני מאוד ספציפי ושימושי (דומה מאוד למאפיינים קיימים דומים מהספרייה הלאומית של אוסטרליה (Trove newspaper ID (P5603)) ומספריית קונגרס (Chronicling America newspaper ID (P4898))), הגם שלוּ היינו מוסיפים קישור לפריט דרך איזה מאפיין (יש לך מאפיין מוצע? newspaper archive URL (P7213)? full work available at URL (P953)?), הקישור יכלול ממשק רק בשפה שצוינה בקישור (ערבית, עברית, או אנגלית). אז, אם נרצה לקשר לזה בוויקיפדיה העברית, וירצו להשתמש בזה גם בוויקיפדיה הערבית או האנגלית, יצטרכו להוסיף עוד קישורים, שזה לא אידאלי. אז, בזמן שאיבת הקישור מוויקינתונים, איך נדע איזה קישור לכלול? זה כמובן אפשרי להשתמש במבחין כדי לציין את השפה, אבל אז יהיה צורך שלכל אחד מהמאות פריטים שבאוסף, נצטרך להוסיף שלושה קישורים כמעט זהים. הגם שנראה לי שזה יקשה על כל הוויקיפדיות שישתמשו בזה בעת השאיבה. לעומת זה, מאפיין זה משהו קל מאוד לשימוש. לוכסן (talk) 19:31, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

לא חושב שיעשו בזה שימוש בוויקיפדיות אבל מאפיין דומה אכן קיים לפי הדוגמאות שהוספת. לא כתבת מה מספר סוגי העיתונים שמופיעים במאגר. אני גם לא מבין מה ההבדל בין " אוסף העיתונות וכתבי העת של הספרייה הלאומית" לבין אתר עיתונות יהודית היסטורית אם יש הבדל בכלל. אני לא מתנגד. אולי אם אפשר יהיה לקבל אקסל של מזהה עיתון עם שמות בשפות השונות ופרטים נוספים אפשר יהיה להריץ אופן ריפיין. Geagea (talk) 20:50, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FNAC author ID

Under discussion

Description	Authority control for authors on webite of the French book/electronics retailer Fnac
Represents	Fnac (Q676585)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	Persons
Allowed values	(ia)\_[0-9\_]+
Example 1	Agatha Christie (Q35064) → ia1007
Example 2	Charles Dickens (Q5686) → ia5722
Example 3	Victor Hugo (Q535) → ia1221
Source	https://www.fnac.com/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://www.fnac.com/$1
See also	Gallimard author ID (P13151), FNAC artwork ID (P12213)
Proposed by	Soufiyouns

Motivation

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: I propose to create a new property for the website Fnac (Q676585) which is a sizeable catalog of authors' works and biographical data. --Soufiyouns (talk) 13:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support ArthurPSmith (talk) 21:14, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - PKM (talk) 22:20, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:57, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question I don't see how this is related to Fonds national d'art contemporain (Q3075877). www.fnac.com is a site run by Fnac (Q676585), a book/electronics retailer. Samoasambia ✎ 11:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Samoasambia: Thank you very much for this very pertinent remark. I have just made the required modification. Regards. Soufiyouns (talk) 08:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Everand author ID

Under discussion

Description	Authority control for authors on Everand
Represents	Everand (Q130901975)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	Persons
Allowed values	[0-9\_]+
Example 1	Agatha Christie (Q35064) → 711058294
Example 2	Charles Dickens (Q5686) → 717205253
Example 3	Victor Hugo (Q535) → 502098802
Source	https://fr.everand.com/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://fr.everand.com/author/$1
See also	Gallimard author ID (P13151), Everand item ID (P7234)
Proposed by	Soufiyouns

Motivation

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: I propose to create a new property for the website Everand (Q130901975) which is a sizeable catalog of authors' works and biographical data. --Soufiyouns (talk) 09:35, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Comment I looked at your example pages and many of the books listed are *not* by the claimed authors. I don't think this is a good source. ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:29, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eyrolles author ID

Under discussion

Description	Authority control for authors on website of the French bookstore Eyrolles
Represents	Eyrolles (Q3062796)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	Persons
Allowed values	[0-9\_]+
Example 1	Victor Hugo (Q535) → 33258
Example 2	Charles Dickens (Q5686) → 291533
Example 3	Agatha Christie (Q35064) → 85552
Source	https://www.eyrolles.com/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://www.eyrolles.com/Accueil/Auteur/wd-$1
See also	Gallimard author ID (P13151), Amazon author ID (P4862), Babelio author ID (P3630), LibraryThing author ID (P7400)
Proposed by	Soufiyouns

Motivation

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: I propose to create a new property for the website Eyrolles (Q3062796) which is a sizeable catalog of authors' works and biographical data. --Soufiyouns (talk) 06:16, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Question - Is there a plan to populate this property? - PKM (talk) 00:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PKM: Thank you very much for your interest in using and exploiting the proposed properties. As for this property for the Eyrolles website, I think that hundreds of renowned authors are listed and catalogued there, and it will be commendable if all contributors to the Wikidata project participate in its promotion. Regards. Soufiyouns (talk) 12:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Back ache (talk) 21:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - PKM (talk) 01:09, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hachette author ID

Under discussion

Description	Authority control for authors on website of the French book publisher Éditions Hachette
Represents	Hachette (Q349566)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	Persons
Allowed values	[a-z]+(-[a-z])
Example 1	Agatha Christie (Q35064) → agatha-christie
Example 2	Charles Dickens (Q5686) → charles-dickens
Example 3	Victor Hugo (Q535) → victor-hugo
Source	https://www.hachette.fr/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://www.hachette.fr/auteur/$1
See also	Gallimard author ID (P13151), Amazon author ID (P4862), Babelio author ID (P3630), LibraryThing author ID (P7400)
Proposed by	Soufiyouns

Motivation

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: I propose to create a new property for the website Hachette (Q349566) which is a sizeable catalog of authors' works and biographical data. --Soufiyouns (talk) 06:49, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support --Kolja21 (talk) 07:01, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support —Sascha (talk) 16:51, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - PKM (talk) 22:54, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Albin Michel author ID

Under discussion

Description	Authority control for authors on website of the French book publisher Éditions Albin Michel
Represents	Éditions Albin Michel (Q2190366)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	Persons
Allowed values	[a-z]+(-[a-z])
Example 1	Jacques Berque (Q1392531) → jacques-berque
Example 2	François Fillon (Q101410) → francois-fillon
Example 3	Pierre Lory (Q3385992) → pierre-lory
Source	https://www.albin-michel.fr/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://www.albin-michel.fr/$1
See also	Gallimard author ID (P13151), Amazon author ID (P4862), Babelio author ID (P3630), LibraryThing author ID (P7400)
Proposed by	Soufiyouns

Motivation

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: I propose to create a new property for the website Éditions Albin Michel (Q2190366) which is a sizeable catalog of authors' works and biographical data. --Soufiyouns (talk) 07:28, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Law

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CUATM statistical code

Under discussion

Description	7-digits code attributed to administrative-territorial units of Moldova
Represents	CUATM (Q30015101)
Data type	String
Template parameter	`цифровой идентификатор` parameter of ru:Template:НП-Молдавия where `вид идентификатора=CUATM`
Domain	administrative territorial entity of Moldova (Q542797) and children
Allowed values	`\d{7}` (regex)
Example 1	Chișinău (Q21197)CUATM statistical code`0101000`
Example 2	Briceni District (Q753795)CUATM statistical code`1400000`
Example 3	Prajila (Q1985013)CUATM statistical code`4534000`
Example 4	Antonovca (Q4067499)CUATM statistical code`4534001`
Example 5	Tiraspol (Q132572)CUATM statistical code`9801000`
Example 6	Gagauzia (Q164819)CUATM statistical code`9600000`
Source	pages 90–137 of the full .doc file in this archive
Planned use	generating the list of CUATM codes in table format in Romanian Wikipedia
Number of IDs in source	1,688
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that suggests notability (Q62589316)
See also	Wikidata:Property proposal/CUATM unique identification code
Single-value constraint	yes

Motivation

CUATM (Q30015101) is my country's classifier of administrative territorial entities/units. All villages, cities, and first-level division have two IDs assigned: a 7-digits one which is called "statistical code" (in Romanian: cod statistic), and a 4-digits one which is called "settlement's unique identification code" (in Romanian: cod unic de identificare al localității). In Wikipedia, the 7-digits code is used in the infoboxes of Moldovan settlements in Russian Wikipedia, and the 4-digits code will be used to validate locations of the 11k archaeological locations of Moldova, which include the unique identifier in their IDs.

An item can only have one "statistical code" and one "settlement's unique identification code". A code can usually be assigned to only one item, with two exceptions:

villages with are the seat of their communes (in which case both the villages and the commune share the same "statistical code" and the same "settlement's unique identification code"); example: Trebujeni (Q2447564) / Trebujeni (Q20858862).
cities which municipality (municipiu) status that have some localities in their administration and thus act like first-level divisions; example: Bălți (Q37801) / Bălți Municipality (Q29017181)

If the archive I linked to as source does not open for you, try this ephemeral link for the PDF version: [1]

Thanks! Gikü (talk) 16:59, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support seems like a useful regional identifier even without a formatter URL. ArthurPSmith (talk) 21:58, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CUATM unique identification code

Under discussion

Description	4-digits code attributed to administrative-territorial units of Moldova
Represents	CUATM (Q30015101)
Data type	String
Domain	administrative territorial entity of Moldova (Q542797) and children
Allowed values	`\d{4}` (regex)
Example 1	Chișinău (Q21197)CUATM unique identification code`0100`
Example 2	Briceni District (Q753795)CUATM unique identification code`1400`
Example 3	Prajila (Q1985013)CUATM unique identification code`4544`
Example 4	Antonovca (Q4067499)CUATM unique identification code`4545`
Example 5	Tiraspol (Q132572)CUATM unique identification code`0700`
Example 6	Gagauzia (Q164819)CUATM unique identification code`9600`
Source	pages 90–137 of the full .doc file in this archive
Planned use	generating the list of CUATM codes in table format in Romanian Wikipedia; using the codes to match archaeological locations of Moldova to their respective cities and villages, as the archaeological codes are CUATM-based
Number of IDs in source	1,688
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that suggests notability (Q62589316)
See also	Wikidata:Property proposal/CUATM statistical code
Single-value constraint	yes

Motivation

CUATM (Q30015101) is my country's classifier of administrative territorial entities/units. All villages, cities, and first-level division have two IDs assigned: a 7-digits one which is called "statistical code" (in Romanian: cod statistic), and a 4-digits one which is called "settlement's unique identification code" (in Romanian: cod unic de identificare al localității). In Wikipedia, the 7-digits code is used in the infoboxes of Moldovan settlements in Russian Wikipedia, and the 4-digits code will be used to validate locations of the 11k archaeological locations of Moldova, which include the unique identifier in their IDs.

An item can only have one "statistical code" and one "settlement's unique identification code". A code can usually be assigned to only one item, with two exceptions:

villages which are the seat of their communes (in which case both the villages and the commune share the same "statistical code" and the same "settlement's unique identification code"); example: Trebujeni (Q2447564) / Trebujeni (Q20858862).
cities with municipality (municipiu) status that have some localities in their administration and thus act like first-level divisions; example: Bălți (Q37801) / Bălți Municipality (Q29017181)

If the archive I linked to as source does not open for you, try this ephemeral link for the PDF version: [2]

Thanks! Gikü (talk) 16:59, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support as for the other one. ArthurPSmith (talk) 21:58, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Social networking service

Magazine

Authority file

‎Islamic Scientific Manuscripts Initiative

Under discussion

Description	Catalogs Islamic scientific manuscripts founded by Max Planck Institute for the History of Science (Q318118)
Data type	External identifier
Example 1	Ibn al-Tayyib (Q2820894) -> 541762 (ismi_id person)
Example 2	Data (Q3036825) -> 390136 (ismi_id text)
Example 3	Maulana Azad Library (Q3634529) -> 380272 (ismi_id repository)
Example 4	Anatolia (Q51614) -> 482813 (ismi_id place)
Source	https://ismi.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/

Motivation

The Islamic Scientific Manuscripts Initiative (Q130611357) documents valuable historical scientific works within the Islamic world. Creating a dedicated property for ISMI will enhance the discoverability and interconnectivity of these works with other related data points. This will promote further scholarly research and preserve the rich scientific heritage of the Islamic world. By adding this property, we can provide a standardized way to reference and access these works, making it easier for researchers and historians to find and utilize this information. —Ainty Painty (talk) 17:14, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 05:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support --Jneubert (talk) 06:45, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support --MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 09:02, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This should be either split into multiple properties (e.g. Islamic Scientific Manuscripts Initiative person ID, Islamic Scientific Manuscripts Initiative text ID) or the property example values need to be modified to be able to be used with a single formatter URL (e.g. person/541762, place/482813 with a formatter URL of https://ismi.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/$1). I find the former to be the preferable option as it makes for better property constraints. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 15:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as proposed. The URLs are not consistent, and thus the IDs cannot be resolved. What if the same numerical value is used for two types of subject? As Lewis says, these should be separate proposals (preferably); or the IDs should include the topic-specific parts of the URLs (if the total number of IDs is low). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:27, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See also wikidata:property proposal/Pending for approved items awaiting the deployment of currently unavailable datatypes

Already approved properties: list

ConLang Code Registry code

Under discussion

Description	3-letter identifier for language defined in the ConLang Code Registry, using codes reserved for private use in ISO 639-3
Represents	ConLang Code Registry (Q107713633)
Data type	String
Domain	languages
Example 1	Black Speech (Q686210) → qbs
Example 2	Ithkuil (Q35846) → qit
Example 3	Idiom Neutral (Q35847) → qin
Source	https://www.kreativekorp.com/clcr/
Planned use	assign value to relevant languages
Number of IDs in source	255
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Robot and gadget jobs	Not that I know of

Motivation

Currently, many conlangs (constructed languages) that don't have official ISO 639-3 codes have an ISO 639-3 code (P220) value listed anyway, for a code issued by the ConLang Code Registry; they generally take the format Black Speech (Q686210)ISO 639-3 code (P220)qbsissued by (P2378)ConLang Code Registry (Q107713633). The problem is that this is wrong: the ISO 639-3 standard defines the codes qaa-qtz as "reserved for private use", which means that anyone can use them for any purpose, and still be compliant with the standard. The fact that the ConLang Code Registry has issued codes in this range does not mean that these conlangs have actually received ISO 639-3 codes, though; it just means that a completely separate organisation has decided to issue codes which just-so-happen to be in ISO 639-3's private use range.

This is obviously intentional, as it allows them to be used as language codes without conflicting with the official ISO standard, but that doesn't mean we should have statements which claim they're actually part of the standard. Simply saying that the code is "issued by the ConLang Code Registry" doesn't make it clear that the ConLang Code Registry is not entitled to issue ISO 639-3 codes, and therefore obscures the fact that the code isn't actually part of the standard in the first place (i.e. that the statement is wrong). Outside of conlang communities, these codes see almost no use, and they may conflict other privately-issued codes used in other communities.

To get around the issue, I'd like to propose a separate property for the ConLang Code Registry, so that these codes can be listed without polluting the data for those who only want information on official ISO 639-3 codes. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Theknightwho (talk • contribs) at 12:47, August 16, 2024‎ (UTC).

Discussion

Support This makes sense to me. Are there really 255 of these? ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:24, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ArthurPSmith Yes - 252 active codes and 3 retired ones according to https://www.kreativekorp.com/clcr/. There are 520 codes in the private use range (qaa-qtz), which is the theoretical maximum, and growth is quite uneven, with some years seeing very few codes added (2 added in 2021), while others see many (32 added in 2023). Codes are retired if they're replaced by genuine ISO 639-3 codes. Theknightwho (talk) 21:18, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 11:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't think this would be a good idea.
It's not a coincidence that the ConLang Code Registry (CLCR) codes are in ISO 639-3's private-use range, the whole point is that they are private-use ISO 639-3 codes for use as ISO 639-3 codes.
ISO 639-3 provides the set of private-use codes for people to use how they want, which means that users assign their own meanings. It's true that other places may assign conflicting meanings, but that's why those statements all have a qualifier saying who gives it that meaning. Conflicts shouldn't be a problem either, we can use constraints like single-best-value constraint (Q52060874) and/or add separator (P4155) to the constraint.
The existing statements shouldn't pollute the data if you're using it correctly. The items with private-use codes also have a no value statement set to preferred rank to indicate that they have no official code, and if you're looking at all statements, you need to take ranks and qualifiers into account for the data to be meaningful anyway.
The real issue here is: How should we model usage of private-use codes? This isn't limited to CLCR or even ISO 639-3 (e.g. XK is widely used as the ISO 3166-1 code for Kosovo, Qaag is used by Unicode and CLDR as the ISO 15924 code for Zawgyi, U+F8D0 is the Unicode codepoint normally used for the Klingon letter "a"), so I don't think it makes sense to have a property specifically for CLCR's private-use ISO 639-3 codes. We should have a model we can apply to private-use codes in general instead.
- Nikki (talk) 09:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nikki These are not ISO 639 codes, though - these are codes assigned by another body which have been intentionally designed to match up with ISO 639's private use range. It's not a question of qualifying the codes or setting no value as a preferred rank - it's the fact that it is factually wrong to say that they are ISO 639 codes at all, and they shouldn't be listed there at all. Theknightwho (talk) 22:09, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nikki, any changes in your opinion based on the response? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 18:25, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

case id (mainland China)

Under discussion

Description	unique identifier of a legal proceeding in the jurisdiction of mainland China
Data type	External identifier
Domain	mainland China court decision (Q125456254), legal case (Q2334719)
Example 1	EN ZH → `（2018）最高法行再26号` [lit. (2018) Supreme - Administrative - Retrial #26]
Example 2	EN ZH → `（2016）京73民初277号` [lit. (2016) Beijing 73 - Civil - First-trial #277]
Example 3	EN ZH → `（2016）豫民终347号` [lit. (2016) Henan High - Civil - Appeal #347]
Example 4	Q129820073 → （2024）鄂0102行初375号 [lit. (2024) Hubei 0102 - Administrative - First-trial #375]
Example 5	c:Category:Sentences of Ruan Xiaohuan on Feb 10, 2023 (page 1) → `（2021）沪02刑初67号` [lit. (2021) Shanghai 02 - Criminal - First-trial #67]
Example 6	c:Category:Sentences of Lü Gengsong on Feb 5, 2008 (page 1) → `（2008）杭刑初字第29号` [lit. (2008) Hangzhou - Criminal - First-trial #29]
Planned use	To be used for uniquely tagging case documents and decisions from courts and authorities in mainland China.
Number of IDs in source	around 45 574 000 court cases assigned with a case id in the year of 2023.^[1]
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886) (Not all cases have written judgement text published to the public.)
Country	mainland China (Q7262427)
See also	U. S. Supreme Court docket number (P7063), Supreme Court of Canada case number (P12592), Supreme Court of Sweden case number (P8407)
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation

This is a restart of WIPO Lex ID (P12720), which I proposed in Wikidata:Property_proposal/case_number_(mainland_China), but the community finally defined the property as WIPO Lex ID, since all examples (court judgements/decisions) I introduced in the proposal were from the WIPO website. :D
Today when I wanted to enter data for this property, I find it completely changed, but reasonable.

I'm re-proposing the China property here.
For any formal judgement from a court (or eligible authority) in mainland China, there's a unique case id (案号, lit. case number) assigned to that legal proceeding. See third line (right-aligned) of Page 1 of a formal court decision. This id is almost the same as U. S. Supreme Court docket number (P7063).

There's a definitive regulation of case ids published in 2015 by China's supreme court. An unofficial English translation is available here if you're interested.

Case ids before 2015 (start of nation-wide digitization) can't be expected to follow a fixed style or format. So I would like to allow this property as a free-form text field, rather than a very strict one. --XsLiDian (talk) 14:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

↑ "最高人民法院工作报告". 全国各级法院收案4557.4万件，结案4526.8万件，同比分别增长15.6%、13.4%。 For the year of 2023: "45574k new cases; 45268k newly-resolved cases."

Discussion

BrokenSegue, Kethyga, Midleading, and Vladimir Alexiev, pinging for attention. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 19:09, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Trade (talk) 21:11, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, but I think it's not limited to China Mainland, Taiwan & Hong Kong have similar case id written in Chinese. For example Hong Kong [3]、Taiwan [4][5]--Kethyga (talk) 07:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose 中文维基文库已经在使用legal citation of this text (P1031)了，像Q93414376这些都是，感觉没必要新建一个属性。 Midleading (talk) 17:03, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't see how this differs from legal citation of this text (P1031) if there are not any URLs. Samoasambia ✎ 16:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Timenote.info Person ID

Under discussion

Description	Identifier for a person profile on the Timenote.info international encyclopedia.
Represents	timenote.info (Q130484179)
Data type	External identifier
Template parameter	First, second names, dates of birth and death, etc in en:Template:Infobox person/Wikidata
Domain	human (Q5), dead human (Q18093576)
Allowed values	For $1, which is ID = "1-999999999999". For $2, which is a mandatory qualifier language of work or name (P407) of the statement = at this point only supported values are ISO 639-1 of these languages: en, de, lt, lv, fr, pl, he, ua, ee, ru.
Example 1	Georgiy Pavlovich Osipov (Q130516824) + language of work or name (P407)=Russian (Q7737) → /ru/person/view?id=11797405*
Example 2	Georgiy Pavlovich Osipov (Q130516824) + language of work or name (P407)=English (Q1860) → /en/person/view?id=11797405*
Example 3	Q130470636 + language of work or name (P407)=Russian (Q7737) → /ru/person/view?id=11797406*
Example 4	Q130470636 + language of work or name (P407)=English (Q1860) → /en/person/view?id=11797406*
Source	https://timenote.info/
Planned use	I plan to add this property to at least 4 Wikidata items that have corresponding profiles on Timenote.info within the next month.
Number of IDs in source	Unknown
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that does not imply notability (Q62589320)
Formatter URL	https://timenote.info/$2/person/view?id=$1
URL match pattern	^https?:\/\/timenote\.info\/(?:[a-z]{2})\/person\/view\?id=(\d+)$
Robot and gadget jobs	While it's possible that bots or gadgets could be developed in the future to import or check data related to this property, that's not a guarantee. It's best not to overpromise functionality that doesn't yet exist.
See also	BillionGraves grave ID (P10554), Find a Grave memorial ID (P535), genealogics.org person ID (P1819), FamilySearch person ID (P2889), GeneaStar person ID (P8094), Geni.com profile ID (P2600), WikiTree person ID (P2949), The Peerage person ID (P4638)
Applicable "stated in"-value	timenote.info (Q130484179)
Type constraint – instance of	human (Q5), dead human (Q18093576)
Type constraint – subclass of	human (Q5)
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Genealogy (Q19817878)
Proposed by	David Osipov

Motivation

Timenote.info is a free, international, multilingual encyclopedia of people, places, and events. It allows anyone to create and contribute information about individuals, including biographical details, family connections, related locations, and associated events. This property links Wikidata items to corresponding person profiles on Timenote.info, facilitating the exchange of information and enhancing the discoverability of biographical data. Because Timenote.info is multilingual, the language of work or name (P407) qualifier is mandatory to specify the language version of the profile. --David Osipov (talk) 14:07, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Comment Do you have any examples that aren't your family members (that you presumably added to the website)? William Graham (talk) 14:31, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Sure.
Yuri Nikulin (Q310873) -> https://timenote.info/ru/person/view?id=151 and https://timenote.info/lv/person/view?id=151

Joseph Stalin (Q855) -> https://timenote.info/en/person/view?id=26089 , https://timenote.info/de/person/view?id=26089 , https://timenote.info/ua/person/view?id=26089

Frank Sinatra (Q40912) -> https://timenote.info/en/person/view?id=23988 , https://timenote.info/de/person/view?id=23988 David Osipov (talk) 15:29, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Wikidata's UI can't handle a "$2". You may want to make this two (or more?) proposals. ArthurPSmith (talk) 00:39, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess it would not be really efficient. Where can I file for a feature request? David Osipov (talk) 05:56, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since they are multiple formatters (per language) for same ID, we only need one property. Multiple formatters can be handled like Property:P7704#P1630. GZWDer (talk) 12:03, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oooo, I see, it solves the problem! Should I do anything like adjusting the proposal? Thank you for your input. David Osipov (talk) 12:44, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BEACON file URL

Under discussion

Description	URL of an online service's BEACON file
Represents	BEACON (Q15087707)
Data type	URL
Example 1	archINFORM (Q265049)→https://www.archinform.net/service/beacon.txt add qualifier relative to (P2210) with the corresponding identifier GND ID (Q54506313)
Example 2	Image Archive of ETH Library (Q40236085)→https://www.e-pics.ethz.ch/index/BEACON/epics_ba_beacon_gnd.txt
Example 3	Vienna History Wiki (Q18029622)→[https://www.geschichtewiki.wien.gv.at/index.php?title=Wien_Geschichte_Wiki/BEACON/Personen-Statisch&action=render]
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
See also	GND ID (P227)
Wikidata project	WikiProject Authority control (Q88300058) WikiProject Germany (Q6871603)

Motivation

The GND operator, the German National Library (DNB), is currently working on expanding the GND for use by many more GLAM, research and other institutions beyond libraries alone. BEACON (docs) is a simple file format that online services can use to indicate which GND entries they contain information about (more info). Beacon aggregators use it to significantly accelerate research on objects with GND entries. Currently, a list of BEACON files exists on Wikipedia:BEACON (german), but it isn’t always up to date and could, in my opinion, be better managed through Wikidata. This change would increase the visibility of these files, support the DNB’s efforts and help beacon aggregator services automatically update their datasets. – Printstream (talk) 12:16, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support interesting and probably quite useful. Awinkler3 (talk) 18:38, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Questions (a) Is is expected that there's a 1:1 relationship between websites holding GND-related info and BEACON files? (b) Is there any reason why a BEACON file has a be generated by and hosted by the party hosting the website? (c) Could a BEACON file relate to a random set of third party websites or is it expected that one side of the relation all be from a single domain? (d) Is there a mine-type submission in process for this? Stuartyeates (talk) 23:54, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- (a) That’s up to the website operator. While most combine all their services into one file, some choose to separate different databases and provide multiple files. I made the description clearer. (b) No, although I’d prefer having the site operator provide the file especially for reliability reasons. However, Wikipedia:BEACON differentiates between "direct/official" files from site operators and "external" files provided by third parties. Both could likely be used if specified with a qualifier. (c) Technically possible, though not the intended approach (as far as I know). (d) Docs recommend text/plain. – Printstream (talk) 11:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thank you. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have submitted BEACON to PRONOM (Q7120402). Stuartyeates (talk) 21:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support In fact seems better than the Wikipedia list. @Arch2all, Wurgl: What do you think? --Kolja21 (talk) 07:14, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Emu: Wien Geschichte Wiki meldet: "Dienst nicht verfügbar." Ein temporärer Ausfall? --Kolja21 (talk) 07:19, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kolja21 Sieht so aus, das gesamte Wien Geschichte Wiki dürfte gerade nicht verfügbar sein. Der Betreiber ist die öffentliche Hand, ich würde (deshalb oder trotzdem) davon ausgehen, dass bereits an der Behebung gearbeitet wird. --Emu (talk) 12:28, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The wikipedia list is on my watchlist and every change causes a change in the tool persondata (see, https://persondata.toolforge.org/statistik/beacon.php for "active" BEACON-files) it causes also a test-run of the import because of a lot of problems (character set, some are bzipped or otherwise compressed, even the simple format is not correct).

However, I do not understand what this property should show? Does it mean "Object is referenced in BEACON-File"? But this information is different to the current wikipedia-list which says "there is a beacon list"? --Wurgl (talk) 08:45, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I understand, the property should not used for every object that is referenced in a certain BEACON file. It should be used for the whole repository, that provides the data. For example archINFORM (Q265049) will be enriched with this property with value "https://www.archinform.net/service/beacon.txt". --Arch2all (talk) 10:16, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Indeed much better than the actual Wikipedia list! Maybe the new property should be even more generalized as XXX-BEACON-URL, because BEACON used with other authorithies too (for example wikidata: https://www.archinform.net/service/beacon-q.txt ). A relation to BEACON (Q15087707) should be included into the proposal, too. --Arch2all (talk) 08:35, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely! Is there a suitable property that could be used as a qualifier to specify the affected ID? – Printstream (talk) 13:18, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps relative to (P2210). Take a look at Property:P642#P1659 for the alternatives: used by (P1535) etc. --Kolja21 (talk) 15:03, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Important qualifiers:

Specifying who provides the file: either use something like sourcing circumstances (P1480) with values such as official (Q29509043) or unofficial (Q29509080). Another possibility could be operator (P137) linking to the person or organization or other values like third-party source (Q7784745) or unknown (Q24238356).
Specifying which identifier the file is based on: relative to (P2210) with the corresponding identifier, typically GND ID (Q54506313), VIAF ID (Q19832964) or Wikidata Q identifier (Q43649390). – Printstream (talk) 16:15, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese Basketball Association player ID

Under discussion

Description	identifier for a basketball player of the Chinese Basketball Association
Represents	Chinese Basketball Association (Q1073722)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	basketball player (Q3665646)
Example 1	Yao Ming (Q58590) → 100003687
Example 2	Mengke Bateer (Q2505131) → 100003778
Example 3	Yi Jianlian (Q352064) → 393433
Source	https://www.cbaleague.com/data/#/home
Formatter URL	https://www.cbaleague.com/data/#/playerMain?playerId=$1

Motivation

{{Basketball properties}}--HanTsî (talk) 19:01, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

John Vandenberg
Looniverse
Notified participants of WikiProject Basketball,
MisterSynergy Thierry Caro Vanbasten_23 Malore Сидик из ПТУ Mathieu Kappler Lee Vilenski Erokhin Dandilero Blackcat Looniverse
Notified participants of WikiProject Sports--HanTsî (talk) 19:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NBA G League player ID

Under discussion

Description	identifier for a basketball player of the NBA G League
Represents	NBA G League (Q842793)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	basketball player (Q3665646)
Example 1	Jeremy Lin (Q309590) → 202391
Example 2	Jordan Poole (Q50820763) → 1629673
Example 3	Kenneth Lofton Jr. (Q107178269) → 1631254
Source	https://stats.gleague.nba.com/players/
Formatter URL	https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/$1/career/

Motivation

{{Basketball properties}}, ID would be as same as NBA.com player ID (P3647).--HanTsî (talk) 19:18, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

John Vandenberg
Looniverse
Notified participants of WikiProject Basketball,
MisterSynergy Thierry Caro Vanbasten_23 Malore Сидик из ПТУ Mathieu Kappler Lee Vilenski Erokhin Dandilero Blackcat Looniverse
Notified participants of WikiProject Sports,
Thierry Caro Fralambert Amqui Antoine2711 (talk) Helmoony joplam QultureQc Jura YanikB Mykola Swarnyk Jimj_wpg Deror avi BeatrixBelibaste Hannes Röst Qui1che Natharchives JFVoll Denelson83 WriterRamsay
Notified participants of WikiProject Canada,
Thierry Caro Fuzheado
Notified participants of WikiProject United States--HanTsî (talk) 19:18, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question If this is the same as identifier as NBA.com player ID (P3647) why would we need a different property for it? --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 11:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Lewis Hulbert: different url,

https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/202391

https://www.nba.com/stats/player/202391

there is a link (call NBA Stats) to the NBA website on the G League website, but there is no link to the G League website on the NBA website.

And Davion Warren (Q100946906), id is 1631389 on the G League website, but 1631389 not work on the NBA website, the establishment of this property can prevent edits like 2277479978 ([6]). HanTsî (talk) 13:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
RBF player ID (P5969) and VTB United League player ID (P6732) use same ID. HanTsî (talk) 23:31, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Basketballnavi.DB player ID

Under discussion

Description	identifier for a basketball player in Japanese league (2005-2022) on the Basketballnavi.DB
Data type	External identifier
Domain	basketball player (Q3665646)
Example 1	Takehiko Orimo (Q14917533) → 225
Example 2	J. R. Sakuragi (Q568898) → 413
Example 3	Yuta Tabuse (Q952047) → 662
Source	https://stats.basketballnavi.com/
Formatter URL	https://stats.basketballnavi.com/player.pl?pl_id=$1

Motivation

{{Basketball properties}}, Basketballnavi.DB include bj league (Q290219) (bj, 2005-2016), Japan Basketball League (Q2713205) (jbl, 2007-2013), National Basketball League (Q1283776) (nbl, 2013-2016), National Basketball Development League (Q18391591) (nbdl, 2013-2016), Japan Professional Basketball League (Q20044878) (b1&b2, 2016-2022), Japan Basketball League (Q28682244) (b3, 2016-2022).--HanTsî (talk) 19:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

John Vandenberg
Looniverse
Notified participants of WikiProject Basketball,
MisterSynergy Thierry Caro Vanbasten_23 Malore Сидик из ПТУ Mathieu Kappler Lee Vilenski Erokhin Dandilero Blackcat Looniverse
Notified participants of WikiProject Sports,
Bravefoot
Okkn (talk)
Camillu87
User:Araisyohei
Tris T7 ^{TT me}
higa4
Mcampany
Mzaki
NMaia
Siramatu
Mochimap
Spinster
Haansn08
Shisma(UTC)
Syunsyunminmin
Yirba

Notified participants of WikiProject Japan--HanTsî (talk) 19:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The site is operated personally, saying "The site will be operational until December 31, 2024" so I am reluctant to support the creation of property for such potentially unstable site. Mzaki (talk) 00:48, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mzaki, That's the new website (2022-present) running until the end of the year, not the old website (2005-2022). The old website had 2181 players, all of pages were archived on September 15, 2024. zh:Special:Diff/84218827 [7] HanTsî (talk) 07:15, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but both are operated by the same person. There is no reason we can believe the old one is kept being managed in the next year. This means we cannot ensure the reliability of this data source for a long-term basis. If and only-if the community reaches the agreement on the reliability of this data source in an as-is basis through this discussion, the property will work based on the archived data. In that case, we should use an archive URL as the formatter. Mzaki (talk) 07:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mzaki, Basketballnavi.DB only contains regular season stats. There are currently three websites that collect Japanese league stats, Eurobasket.com player ID (P3527) (regular season and playoffs together), Proballers ID (P8548) (regular season and playoffs separately) and RealGM basketball player ID (P3957) (regular season and playoffs together). Eurobasket.com requires payment to view career stats, but Eurobasket.com is also the most complete website among the three.
Eurobasket.com
B1（2016-present）

B2（2016-present）

B3（2016-present）

BJ（2008-2016）、JBL / NBL（2008-2016）

Proballers
JBL / NBL / B1（2008-present）

BJ / B2（2010-2012 / 2019-present）

RealGM
JBL / NBL / B1（2011-present）

Basketballnavi.DB
BJ（2005-2016）

JBL（2007-2013）

NBL（2013-2016）

NBDL（2013-2016）

B1 / B2 / B3（2016-2022）

Since Levanga Hokkaido only played in the playoffs in the 2015-16 season, Takehiko Orimo (Q14917533) can be used to check whether the stats of Basketballnavi.DB is reliable or not.

career stats:Basketballnavi.DB, Eurobasket.com (screenshot) ,Proballers, RealGM

2013-14 season game log:Basketballnavi.DB, Eurobasket.com (screenshot) ,Proballers, RealGM HanTsî (talk) 08:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎CamerounWeb person ID

Under discussion

Description	CamerounWeb person ID
Represents	CameroonWeb (Q106155702)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5)
Allowed values	^(\w+-)+\d{4}$
Example 1	Judith Yah Sunday (Q114010911)→Judith-Sunday-Achidi-2048
Example 2	Laurent Esso (Q3219209)→Laurent-Esso-1358
Example 3	Lejeune Mbella Mbella (Q16654676)→Lejeune-Mbella-Mbella-1386
Source	https://www.camerounweb.com/CameroonHomePage/people/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Number of IDs in source	?
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that suggests notability (Q62589316)
Formatter URL	https://www.camerounweb.com/person/$1
URL match pattern	^https?:\/\/www\.camerounweb\.com\/person\/(\w+-)+\d{4}$
Country	Cameroon (Q1009)
Applicable "stated in"-value	CameroonWeb (Q106155702)
Type constraint – instance of	human (Q5)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation

The property could help to link to the biographies of CameroonWeb (Q106155702) in French language and thus our coverage and references for persons from Cameroon. --Marsupium (talk) 23:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Notified participants of WikiProject Africa --Marsupium (talk) 00:12, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support as proposer. --Marsupium (talk) 00:12, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support AdamSeattle (talk) 19:59, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Kolja21 (talk) 03:03, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

University Bibliography Tübingen ID

Under discussion

Description	Central database of all publications of the members of the University of Tübingen (Q153978).
Represents	University Bibliography Tübingen (Q32857837)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item (publications)
Example 1	Imaging characteristics of cardiac metastases in patients with malignant melanoma (Q33861875) → 78260
Example 2	Richard Kannicht (Q2149916), Q2149916#P69 → 96327
Example 3	Peter Hilsch (Q48706997), Q48706997#P69 → 68463
Source	https://bibliographie.uni-tuebingen.de
Number of IDs in source	> 75,000
Expected completeness	always incomplete
Formatter URL	https://bibliographie.uni-tuebingen.de/xmlui/handle/10900/$1

Motivation

Database with more than 75,000 publications: books, articles, reprints etc. --Kolja21 (talk) 02:43, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Vladimir Alexiev Jonathan Groß Andy Mabbett Jneubert Sic19 Wikidelo ArthurPSmith PKM Ettorerizza Fuzheado Daniel Mietchen Iwan.Aucamp Epìdosis Sotho Tal Ker Bargioni Carlobia Pablo Busatto Matlin Msuicat Uomovariabile Silva Selva 1-Byte Alessandra.Moi CamelCaseNick Songceci moz AhavaCohen Kolja21 RShigapov Jason.nlw MasterRus21thCentury NGOgo Pierre Tribhou Ahatd JordanTimothyJames Silviafanti Back ache AfricanLibrarian M.roszkowski Rhagfyr 沈澄心 MrBenjo S.v.Mering Hiperterminal (talk) מקף Lovelano Ecravo Chado07 Soufiyouns
Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control. --Kolja21 (talk) 03:06, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support https://bibliographie.uni-tuebingen.de/xmlui/handle/10900/35958/browse?type=author seems to be the best source for scraping. -- Bargioni 🗣 09:42, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question With the addition of this property, wouldn't all university bibliographies potentially qualify for their own properties in the future, even if they don’t contain new information? After all, the works already appear to be linked to SWB/K10plus, and through that, to WorldCat. For example, 96327 can be sufficiently linked through 074300121 (SWB editions (P1044)), 1144300126 (K10plus PPN ID (P6721)), and 313218873 (OCLC control number (P243)). Or does this property serve a broader purpose I haven’t recognized? Printstream (talk) 12:36, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the question. Imho each type of linkage offers advantages if it leads to a citable source.
1. The University Bibliography Tübingen is well-suited as a source reference and it often contains unique informations. (I use the databases of the university for example to find the doctoral adviser or the complete text of a thesis.)
2. This bibliography is not identical with other databases, even if the German National Library, union catalogues or WorldCat take over parts of the information. When I quote a source, I want to refer to the original if possible.
3. Some works are linked to other cataloges but not all. If the text is part of a book, a lecture etc. it is not included in K10plus (Q100884768).
4. Last not least a reason for the proposal was that URLs have changed several times in similar cases since Wikidata was founded. Only the ID is stable.
--Kolja21 (talk) 15:44, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support I can make sense of it now. Good to know, thanks for the explanations. Printstream (talk) 17:26, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Jneubert (talk) 07:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PUG authority ID

Under discussion

Description	numerical identifier for an authority record in the authority file of the Library of the Pontifical Gregorian University (PUG)
Data type	External identifier
Example 1	Carlo Gregori (Q43987880): Italian painter and engraver (1702-1759) -> 217982
Example 2	Pontifical Gregorian University (Q467025): pontifical university located in Rome, Italy -> 107572
Example 3	Rome (Q220): capital and largest city of Italy -> 164282

Motivation

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control Very important authority file among Pontifical Universities in Rome; 16939 authority records have already been matched with Wikidata and the IDs are ready to be imported; a Mix'n'match catalogue is ready for the upload. --Epìdosis 15:29, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support --Kolja21 (talk) 15:58, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - PKM (talk) 04:01, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Back ache (talk) 04:19, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- Bargioni 🗣 08:59, 1 December 2024 (UTC)1985-1985-[reply]

Support -- Gentile64 🗣 16:21, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support --SimoneD82 (talk) 16:23, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support --Balluc1977 (talk) 06:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support --ManuelaLaRosa (talk) 09:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎ZSL Authority ID

Under discussion

Description	Identifier for a person, or other topic, in the Zoological Society of London authority database
Data type	External identifier
Domain	Any
Example 1	Reginald Innes Pocock (Q174664)→pocock-reginald-innes-1863-1947-superintendent-of-the-gardens-1903-1923
Example 2	George William Allan (Q710407)→allan-george-william-1822-1901-canadian-senator
Example 3	Zoological Society of London (Q220198)→zsl
Example 4	Kuwait Zoo (Q11705490)→kuwait-zoo
Example 5	Royal College of Surgeons of England (Q1584160)→royal-college-of-surgeons
Source	https://zsl-archive.maxarchiveservices.co.uk/index.php/actor/browse
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Number of IDs in source	4416
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://zsl-archive.maxarchiveservices.co.uk/index.php/$1
Robot and gadget jobs	Maybe Mix'n'match
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Authority control (Q88300058)

Motivation

Highly respected source. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:06, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support TiagoLubiana (talk) 17:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Ambrosia10 (talk) 17:13, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hachette author ID

Under discussion

Description	Authority control for authors on website of the French book publisher Éditions Hachette
Represents	Hachette (Q349566)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	Persons
Allowed values	[a-z]+(-[a-z])
Example 1	Agatha Christie (Q35064) → agatha-christie
Example 2	Charles Dickens (Q5686) → charles-dickens
Example 3	Victor Hugo (Q535) → victor-hugo
Source	https://www.hachette.fr/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://www.hachette.fr/auteur/$1
See also	Gallimard author ID (P13151), Amazon author ID (P4862), Babelio author ID (P3630), LibraryThing author ID (P7400)
Proposed by	Soufiyouns

Motivation

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: I propose to create a new property for the website Hachette (Q349566) which is a sizeable catalog of authors' works and biographical data. --Soufiyouns (talk) 06:49, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support --Kolja21 (talk) 07:01, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support —Sascha (talk) 16:51, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - PKM (talk) 22:54, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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