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DANNY HAIPHONG: Welcome, everyone. Good afternoon. This is your host, Danny Haiphong. As you can see, I am joined by two very special guests, both returning guests on the program, although it’s been too long for both. We have renowned economist Michael Hudson, prolific author. You can find his website in the video description.

And we have Dr. Jill Stein, the 2024 Green Party presidential candidate, longtime activist, longtime just steward for peace. You can find the campaign website in the video description as well. Michael, Jill, thank you so much for joining me today.

JILL STEIN: Great to be here. So I’ve supported Jill Stein in the past. I do encourage people to look into her campaign. She is one of the few, if not the only candidates in the 2024 electoral race who is not AIPAC bought and owned. And of course, definitely looking at Michael Hudson’s work.

But I wanted to get started right away because I think, you know, this is just a very urgent moment in the world, which has huge ramifications both for the United States and the future of humanity. And that is the flurry of events that have transpired in the last 48 or so hours.

We just had Ismail Hassania [Ismail Haniyeh]. He was a negotiator for Hamas, a top leader in their politburo, assassinated in Iran on July 31st. So the date of this stream.

And then before that, we had Israel just the day before bombing Beirut in reaction to a very suspicious strike on the Golan Heights, which killed 12 people, many of them young people.

Now we are also getting unconfirmed reports about a possible IRGC [Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps] commander, Iranian commander, killed in Damascus. Sound familiar? Back in April, something of this sort happened, which led to an Iranian operation to deter Israel from further attacking. It was an Israeli attack on the embassy in Damascus back in April of 2024. These are unconfirmed reports so far.

But Michael, maybe we can turn to you. You know, how do you see it based on your geopolitical and economic analysis? This kind of spiraling, it seems, of Israel broadening this war to a regional and global level, because, of course, we are also entering the one year point. You’re getting very close to that one year point of the overall genocidal campaign in Gaza.

MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, you say Israel, but it’s actually Israel in the United States. And all this has happened right after Netanyahu came to Congress and met in Washington with the Democratic Party leaders and then with Trump. So I think it’s really the policy of the neocons. They’ve worked hand in hand. And I’ve known these people for over 50 years.

I worked with Netanyahu’s advisor, Uzi Arad, for a number of years at the Hudson Institute. We made trips around the world together, arguing. And I know what their ideas and ideology are. And it really is not only apartheid, but the feeling that if Israel doesn’t kill the Palestinians, the Palestinians will kill the Israelis in retaliation for what the Israelis are doing to them. And so once you hurt the Palestinians, that makes you think very much like what America thinks with Iran.

Well, we look at what we’ve done to Iran. They must hate us. Therefore, they’re going to do something about us. Therefore, we’re going to attack them.

So I think that the neocons in Washington believe that war is going to be inevitable. America is fighting for control of the Near East because the Near East controls the oil. And American foreign policy has been based on control of food supplies from American farms and control of the oil trade, because if you can control the oil trade, you can turn off people’s electricity, their heating, and their power. And power use for workers is the root of productivity.

And the way that the military thinks—and again, I’ve worked with them for years—is the timing, that, are we in a better position now than we will be next year or not. And I think the American military realizes that Russia and China and the other Eurasian countries are getting together. The American ability to fight militarily is going down. And to the military, that means if we don’t have war now and wait till next year in the future, we’ll be less and less and less able to win.

Well, the reality is they’re going to lose wherever they go, unless there’s atomic war and the chessboard is thrown over. And I think their feeling is the Americans are doing everything they can, from Ukraine to Israel to Iran, to try to stir up a retaliation so that they can then say, ah, we’re under attack, we’re purely defending ourselves, and once you tell your population and your voters this is a war for defense, as the Nazis know, you can always get a—as Goebbels said, you can always get a population on your side if you say it’s for defense.

So I’m very worried that the neocons are going to say there will never be a better or at least a less worse time to go to war in the Near East than right now. That seems to be what is leading the trigger, and even the military has said every way that they’ve gamed out the military sequence there, America loses. They’re not going to lose as bad now as they will in the future. And this is very dangerous, given the whole mindset that they have, and the mindset that they have to control the Near East, or else the rest of the world will not be neoliberalized.

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It’s really—we’re at a civilizational split. What kind of society and what kind of economy will the world have? Will it be a neoliberalized, privatized economy, or will it be, I hesitate to say socialized, let’s just say a progressive, real kind of democracy economy?

DANNY HAIPHONG: Before I get you in here, Jill, I just want to correct myself. It’s Ismail Haniyeh. I’m probably still butchering the name, but I wanted to make sure I corrected that before I give it to you. Dr. Stein, please.

JILL STEIN: Yeah, and I would add to what Michael said. It’s not only what kind of world we’re going to have, but whether we’re going to have a world or not, because the words of Martin Luther King ring truer than ever. My country is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. True back in the 60s, all the more true now.

Echoing what you said, Danny, or actually I think it was what Michael said also, that this is not just Israel. This is Israel enabled, empowered, funded, and armed by the U.S. of A. So we are deeply embroiled in this. And clearly what Netanyahu is doing is, you know, this screams as an effort to prolong and expand the war and to drag the U.S. into it.

It will be very hard for the U.S. not to be dragged into it because Israel is simultaneously attacking Yemen, just the other day, a really severe attack on one of Yemen’s key ports. I mean, they’ve been bombing Yemen for some time in retaliation to Yemen’s efforts to, you know, stop the genocide and stop the flow of weapons and materials that support the genocide. And Israel has been responding in kind and worse, basically, with bombing Yemen.

And then there’s been a big push on that bombing just last week. And then now within 24 hours, you have back-to-back assassinations that really look tailor-made to further escalate. And, you know, in particular, assassinating the head of negotiations for Hamas. How are we supposed to be, you know, and how is Israel supposed to be negotiating a peace deal when they are assassinating the spokesperson and the key figure in those negotiations?

So this is, you know, this is designed, until proven otherwise, this is designed to completely torpedo negotiations to ensure that the war goes on. And in fact, it escalates because you have not only this assassination, but it’s happening in Iran.

And, you know, there was another big offense against Iran by Israel a couple months back when Israel took on this incredible, inflammatory action, a war crime bombing Iran’s embassy in Syria, I believe.

DANNY HAIPHONG: Yes, it was Iran’s embassy.

JILL STEIN: Yeah, in Syria. And there were like 13 people killed then. And that was responded to by Iran with a retaliation of some 300 drones and missiles, which was less than it could have been. It could have been much more. And they had a relatively contained response. But that was so insane.

And what was the US response to that? You know, it was like nothing, you know, no even slap on the hands, no demand for an apology, nothing. The US has been really in full support, enabling Israel’s very offensive and escalatory actions. So you have that going on at the same time, you know, with this back-to-back assassination, bombing an intensely dense area in Beirut, where some 70 people were injured. Reportedly, there were only four deaths. But it’s hard to believe that if 70 people were injured, there were only four deaths. We’ll see, you know, what the numbers eventually turn out to be.

But you have Israel sort of simultaneously provoking all of its adversaries in the region. It’s going to war now intensively against Lebanon and Hezbollah in Lebanon, against Iran, against the Houthis in Yemen.

And, you know, this is outrageous, especially in the wake of Congress, having invited this war criminal murderer to come, having applauded him, standing ovations, practically one a minute for the entire hour of his speech. Instead of applauding Netanyahu, the US should have been arresting Netanyahu and turning him over to the Hague to be tried for war crimes.

And, you know, the US is probably next on the docket here because we are egging him on, we’re encouraging him. What Congress did was, you know, essentially to give him a complete blank check to keep going.

And it was not long ago that the US Congress and White House basically appropriated another $18 billion worth of F-15 fighter jets at US taxpayer expense. And this was after, you know, the explosion of Israeli aggression in the south of Gaza.

And Israel has just been on kind of a nonstop series of massacres. You know, talk about children and the deaths of children that Israel is supposedly defending. You know, Israel has been wiping out children, you know, to the tune of some 16,000 recorded deaths, but it’s likely way more than that, far more as indicated by the report from the Lancet Journal, you know, two or three weeks ago, that a total of some 40,000 deaths is probably more like approaching 200,000 deaths, actually, considering, you know, how the numbers are counted and not counted.

And among them, you know, are all these child-directed assaults, you know, on soccer fields, on schools, you know, on refugee centers. It’s just shocking and horrific what’s going on. And in the middle of that, the U.S. rewards Israel with another $18 billion worth of these F-15 fighter jets. So the U.S. has blood all over its hands, not just on its hands, but, you know, on its face, you know, from head to toe, basically. The U.S. is conducting this genocide.

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And we heard recently some, you know, warm words for the suffering of the Palestinian people from Kamala Harris. But these are absolutely empty gestures, because the U.S. has the capability of stopping the genocide with a phone call or simply by curtailing the weapons, which, by the way, are illegal. It breaks three U.S. laws to be sending weapons to Israel at this point.

So it’s a simple matter to stop the flow of weapons and to even make the phone call, saying, you’re done, you know, you are basically disarmed now and going forward, barring an end to the genocide and an end to the aggressive actions that Israel is taking in order to defend its right to conduct genocide. So this is all, all of this is being enabled and empowered and intensified by the U.S.

So in my view, this is a time, you know, this is a time to, you know, to double down, to arrest Netanyahu, to send him to the Hague, to stop the flow of weapons, and to actually join our campaign, which is challenging empire.

Without, you know, without a challenge, as Frederick Douglass said, power concedes nothing without a demand. We need to be there on the ballot in every state across the country. Every time we gain access to another ballot, we’re currently on the ballot for about 60 percent of voters, but we need to be on the ballot all across the country so that every voter has a choice, which is anti-genocide, anti-war, pro-worker, and climate emergency.

We are the campaign on track to be on the ballot across the country that actually offers that choice. We are the one option to actually challenge empire now, not just in November, but by getting on the ballot now, we show Netanyahu, Israel, we also show Biden, Harris, and Congress that the anti-war movement in this country is big, it’s organized, it is the majority, it is the conscience of the nation, and we are here to stay, and we are fighting angry, and we intend to throw the bums out here.

Remember, there will be three pro-genocide, pro-war candidates on the ballot, and there will be one anti-war, anti-genocide, pro-worker campaign on the ballot across the country. So when you’re dividing the vote four ways, it’s possible, you know, and three of those are dividing the pro-war vote. They could be dividing down the pro-war vote, and we will be the unifying progressive opposition.

In that setting, where you’re dividing the vote four ways, it’s actually possible to win a race with as little as 26 percent of the popular vote. So reject the propaganda that tells you resistance is futile, that tells you that, you know, that it’s useless, that you are powerless, and you might as well be hopeless, and go crawl into a hole.

Actually, it’s exactly the opposite right now. The American people not only oppose this war, but they oppose the cost of this war to our jobs, to our health care, to our housing, to our schools, to the fact of debt that, you know, some hundred million Americans are trapped in just looking at medical debt, and student debt alone amounts to about 100 million Americans.

So, you know, they are trying, they are pulling out all the stops to silence us, to keep a choice, to keep competition out of the general election, as they did out of the Democratic primary. You know, this is the anti-democratic party. It is not the Democratic party. It is the opposite of that, and it is attempting to deny you a choice.

So I encourage people, go to JillStein2024.com and join the team here to demand democracy and an America and a world that works for all of us, because what we have right now is exactly the opposite. We are making a beeline to oblivion here right now, racing towards nuclear confrontation on at least three fronts right now, and this is not some, you know, some window dressing. This is the core of the problem.

Empire, oligarchy, and rising fascism at home and abroad, you know, are the name of the game, and we have to stand up and fight it.

Neoliberalism and the Democrats and the lesser evil are not the solution. They are the problem. Neoliberalism is the driver of neofascism. We don’t get to a solution through the lesser evil, and you don’t get to a solution through silencing yourself behind, you know, behind a lesser evil who does not have your interests at heart whatsoever. Silence is not a political strategy. This is time to stand up louder and stronger than ever.

DANNY HAIPHONG: Yeah. Yes, indeed.

MICHAEL HUDSON: We have to work on the vocabulary of doublethink. What Jill and Martin Luther King called violence, Democratic Party calls GDP. And so Jill goes, the political points that Jill just made, he’s extended into a whole economic program. If you want to stop wars, you have to stop the military budget, and if you don’t stop that, the budget balancers on both parties are going to say, well, we have to pay for the military. We’re going to cut back social spending. So what we’ve been talking about goes way beyond just military into the whole way of what kind of economy we’re going to have.

DANNY HAIPHONG: Totally. Mike, I wanted to bring you back in here to about a point that Jill Stein made around the US’s involvement here with regard to this crisis, this growing, you know, the spiraling, this growing threats of a broader war out of the genocide in Gaza.

And I wanted to ask you about the US’s, how they, there’s been a lot of activity. On the one hand, the US says, what remains of the Biden administration has said that they’re not involved in what happened in Iran, right? The assassination of the Hamas leader, that they’re trying to keep Israel from extending the war into Lebanon against Hezbollah.

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But maybe you could outline a bit, like, why does the US, because at the end of the day, in the final analysis, it appears that the US actually does support all of what Israel does, either by vocally supporting it, materially supporting it, or both. Words seem to not matter very much here. It really does have to do with the action. So could you talk about why, from your standpoint, the US is supporting this conflagration, this expansion of the war, as well as the genocide?

MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, it’s very simple. As Jill said at the beginning of her talk, and I agree with her, not only Netanyahu and the Israelis should be counted as war criminals, but so should the Biden administration, Lincoln and Sullivan.

So what the U.S. does, for public relation purposes, it knows just what Jill said. The majority of American people don’t want the war, either in Ukraine or in the Near East. So the pretense is to shed crocodile tears and say, oh, we told Netanyahu not to drop the bombs on Gaza and kill civilians. Oh, by the way, here’s another. Every single day, every bomb is an American bomb that continues to be sent.

And as Jill said, this could all be stopped in one telephone call so that all these are American bombs. The administration is trying to pretend, good cop and bad cop. The U.S. is the good cop trying to stop it. But the U.S. is the supporter of Israel. And I won’t simply say Israel. It’s really the Likud party. It’s not the old Labor Party of the progressive Israelis. This is the right-wing Likud party, the ultra-right party that the United States is supporting and that AIPAC is supporting with its donations to Congress, not to Jill’s campaign. So this is just all smoke and pretense.

Now, of course, we would have liked to have seen some congressmen. And I think one of the congressmen said they wish they could have gone across the stage, shaken Netanyahu’s hand, and put into a subpoena to put him under arrest. But the International Court has not yet issued an arrest warrant. So you can’t arrest somebody without a warrant for other arrests. That’s what we’re waiting for. And if they can issue a warrant against the arrest of the Israeli leadership, they can do it against the U.S. leadership, which is their sponsors.

The claim is simply that, oh, Israel has bought the U.S. Congress through its campaign contributors. But there’s a circular flow. Congress will give aid to Israel. Israel will use some of the aid it gets to pay back into the lobbying effort to pay the congressmen. So everything, some portion of whatever they give Israel ends up in their own pockets. That’s the circular flow we have, thanks to Citizens United and related things. So you’re having a whole system that is so dysfunctional that I think a lot of American voters think there’s nothing we can do. The system is so corrupt.

There is something we can do. And I think that’s what Jill has been trying to explain in her campaign, which somehow does not make it into The New York Times or The Washington Post.

DANNY HAIPHONG: Definitely. And I wanted to, you know, Jill, also ask you, given what Michael said and given what you said about your campaign here, could you talk about, you know, the United States, I think one of the biggest ways that the United States maintains this plausible deniability is, on the one hand, it poses itself as some kind of diplomatic force mediator between Hamas and Israel. And it has been trying to at least play this role or play at this role, I should say, since the initial talks about a so-called ceasefire began.

But I’m wondering, you know, Hamas, considered a terrorist organization. Hezbollah, considered a terrorist organization. Iran, considered an adversary. The entire axis of resistance considered an adversary. How do you differ in terms, because, you know, we have Kamala Harris, we have Donald Trump. They don’t deviate from these positions at all. How do you differ in how you would relate to these forces, which they’re all saying that they are opposing the genocide and coming to the aid of the Palestinians? How would you relate to them if you were in that position that the U.S. claims it is now and that these two parties claim they’re in now?

JILL STEIN: So, you know, they claim that they oppose the genocide, but it’s pure talk. They have the power to stop the genocide immediately. And on day one, my administration would make that phone call and the war is over with that phone call. And, you know, this was done by Ronald Reagan, not exactly your model of a peace president, who picked up the phone and called Menachem Begin, I think it was at the time, and said, bring your troops back from Lebanon, where Israel had gone in pursuit of the, you know, terror organization du jour, you know, and Israel has its du jour, its terrorist of the day on whom, you know, resistance is blamed.

But resistance is inevitable. Resistance will happen when people are being murdered as a way of life, when you have a murderous occupation and apartheid state, when people are basically being allowed food and water out of an eyedropper. You know, everything coming into Gaza has been strictly controlled, basically to just barely maintain a survival level of calorie intake.

You know, the incredible violence that people have been subjected to routinely, and, you know, periodic massacres that have been the track record, actually, of the Zionist state since even before it declared independence, there were some four or 500 villages that had been basically destroyed.

So, you know, this was hardwired into the plan. And many people don’t know that because it was only with the revelations in the Israel’s National Historic Archives that became available to historians in the 1990s.

So there was a whole new analysis by Israeli historians, actually, of Israel’s history, and it became very clear, you know, what has been going on here from the get go.

So, you know, all well and good to blame the resistance of the day, but you’re going to have resistance as long as you have systematic ethnic cleansing, periodic massacres, and just the murderous way of life of an apartheid state.

You know, people from South Africa who fought the apartheid state in South Africa say that it was mild, it was modest compared to the violence of the Israeli apartheid.

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So it doesn’t matter what you call it. You know, if you want to solve this crisis, you have to get to the underlying drivers of the crisis, which is essentially the occupation, the apartheid state, and essentially, you know, the blueprint of the Zionist plan here, which has been murderous, actually, and terrorist from its inception.

So let’s just solve the problem. And let’s also understand that this is not only a problem for Palestine, this is also a survival problem for Israel. There’s no way that Israel gets out of here alive, having basically amped up its neighbors who are stronger than Israel.

You know, when you combine Iran and Hezbollah, and then, you know, other partners, and potentially Russia, which is in a military alliance with Iran, which also has nuclear weapons. And Israel, of course, has nuclear weapons in violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel also has those weapons.

You know, it raises real questions about, so what do you do? You know, how do you force a regime that has shown every indication of being, you know, psychopathic, you know? And how do you stop them?

So you basically disarm them. You disarm them by ending the flow of weapons. And further, you institute an economic boycott, which could be done right now. And, you know, the basis for that is there in the second ICJ ruling, which essentially said that occupation and apartheid is absolutely illegal. And it’s, you know, it’s necessary to take all conceivable measures to correct that. So it really does lay the groundwork and justify a national boycott.

And those boycotts actually are being quite effective right now. This is another way in which Israel does not get out of here alive, because the economic toll on Israel right now is enormous. The cost of this war is huge. Israel has lost a lot of its business, its tourist industry has completely, you know, come to a screeching halt. One of its major ports had to shut down because there’s so much, you know, commercial, you know, engagement that’s just not happening anymore.

So for the people of Israel, you know, not the apartheid state, but for the people of Israel, this is absolutely essential, too, for us to put an end to this. And yes, Israel has nuclear weapons, but you don’t need nuclear weapons to basically create an economic boycott here. And that can happen.

I don’t think that needs to happen if our leadership would simply stand up and do like Ronald Reagan did, or like Dwight Eisenhower did many decades earlier, I think in the 1950s, when Dwight Eisenhower basically made that phone call as well, and told not only Israel, but I think also France and possibly Egypt. No, they were in Egypt. Yes. And he recalled Israel and company from Egypt. And that likewise had an immediate turnaround. So the U.S. has all the power.

This is not rocket science about how to solve this. This is simply a matter of reengaging our democracy and political empowerment that demands that we have elected officials who are serving us, not serving the military industrial complex, the war contractors, the fossil fuel industry, AIPAC, etc. This is about simply doing the bidding of the American people in a way that protects us all, that ends the impoverishment and the endangerment of all of us at the way that our foreign policy is currently being conducted.

DANNY HAIPHONG: Michael, I wanted to ask, to get you back in here, about the ramifications of what we’ve seen in the last few days, and whether you feel like a broader war indeed could come out of this, because as Dr. Stein has mentioned, the last time that Israel struck inside Iranian territory, well, inside of, that struck Iran from Damascus, they struck Iran through the embassy and killed a top IRGC commander.

The last time that happened, Iran did engage in a very open, there was a lot of communication with the United States, but they did engage in a deterrence operation. Now, with this, it’s a huge figure. I mean, Ismail Haniyeh is a huge figure here. He is someone who is tasked with negotiations, and it seems like it’s sending a huge message to do it within Iran. Do you feel like Iran may respond here in kind, and we haven’t even gotten to Hezbollah. So do you feel like this war is coming, or do you feel like, how do you assess this situation going forward?

MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, what Iran did was to show that it could bomb, precision bombs, American bases in Syria and in Iraq. It told America, the bombs are coming, try to defend yourself. It very carefully avoided hitting any American soldiers there. Just wanted to demonstrate, do you really want war? Here’s what we can do.

Hezbollah did exactly the same thing with Israel. It showed that it could penetrate the Iron Dome, it will, and that it had a complete control of the air over Israel. They are doing everything they can to stay out of the war because they realize that the United States and Israel, but really the United States, is trying to goad them into war.

And you realize that if someone has declared themselves as your enemy, and if they’re trying to goad you into war, they must have a plan that like in the old Western, you’ll have the gunslinger that’s a good fast draw, trying to goad some local guy into pulling his gun, and then the gunslinger shoots him first. I think that that’s what Iran and Hezbollah realized, they’re doing everything to stay out.

And as I look at it, they’re very much in the position of President Putin in Russia. They’re amazingly patient. They know that America wants to accelerate war and wants a war now. And it’s all set up for probably with really, really big weapons that are going to be more violent than anything we’ve seen since World War II.

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And the other countries are not responding to the goading. What they’re doing is making alliances with each other, just as Russia and China have admitted Iran into the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, Eurasia’s version of NATO. Other countries are solidifying their mutual support so that they can be independent, not only of the United States, but of the United States and NATO, the whole NATO West.

So they’re saying, well, what we’re trying to do is let the West go its way. We’ll go our way. We’re going to have a different kind of economy than the West. We’re back into what this fight is really about, is for what kind of society and what kind of civilization are we going to have? Will it be neoliberal, privatized, all centered in one country, the United States? Or will it be a multilateral, win-win, non-exploitive economy of mutual gain? Because mutual gain is the only way that you can get other countries to join.

And that’s what Eurasia is doing in Africa and other Asian countries to make alliances. They’re solidifying the alliances. And in fact, the American challenge to them is driving them into a mutual alliance. So they’re looking at the long term. America’s looking at what can we do in the short term. It’s really a fight in a world view that we’re seeing right now. And I suspect that they’re going to be patient enough not to do anything as long as they can restrain themselves from the kind of provocation that the United States is doing all the way from the Near East to Ukraine.

DANNY HAIPHONG: Yes. And I’m glad you brought up Russia, Michael, because I think it’s maybe a good segue to begin talking about, you know, as the United States is completely mired in what this just catastrophic war that is being launched, of course, by Israel in West Asia. We also have an ongoing conflict, ongoing Russia’s special military operation, which was goaded by NATO.

And so, Dr. Stein, I’d like you to discuss, if you could, your position on Ukraine. And what have you made of developments now about where the situation is? Because there’s a lot more talk about peace. Don’t know how genuine it is. And it’s interesting because Russia and even China have said that there is no, the conditions aren’t there for peace. So what exactly is going on here? And what’s your take? And what’s your position?

JILL STEIN: What’s going on is extremely dangerous and could have been altogether avoided. And, you know, just to lay out at the outset here that this is a proxy war. The Russia-Ukraine conflict is a proxy war for the U.S. with its other, you know, allies, NATO against Russia, an effort to basically bleed Russia’s resources to weaken Russia. That’s been stated explicitly by the U.S. Secretary of Defense.

And, you know, this war was essentially ginned up over the course of decades as NATO began to move to the east and basically encroach on Russia’s border. And warnings were delivered. You know, first of all, it had been promised, the promise was made by NATO, by the U.S., to Gorbachev at the time that Germany reunited after the Second World War and Germany joined NATO. The promise was made NATO was not going to move to the east because Russia is understandably, you know, concerned about its border and concerned about being invaded again after having lost some 27 million people in the Second World War, you know, due to being invaded across that border with Ukraine and several times, you know, over the course of history before the Second World War as well.

So that agreement was made. NATO would not move to the east one inch. And beginning in the Clinton administration, of course, NATO began to move to the east and Russia really sounded the alarm. And, you know, NATO just kept on marching.

And then starting in 2014, really, you know, the U.S. was clearly a major driver in the coup, in the Maidan, a very violent coup that involved the fascist elements in Ukraine who were overthrowing a democratically elected government that simply wanted neutrality, that wanted neutrality in the U.S., which is what Russia was always calling for, just neutrality. Give us neutrality like, you know, like Austria, I think, after the Second World War, they just wanted neutrality for Ukraine.

And the U.S. basically put an end to that with the coup in the Maidan, at which time a war against Russian speakers across Ukraine ensued, including in Crimea and in the eastern provinces. And the eastern provinces were crying out for protection from Russia and were calling out for, you know, for Russia to basically take them in. And Russia declined that. Russia resisted until it was basically forced to do that when, you know, when it was very clear that NATO was coming to that border of Ukraine.

And Russia continued to plead, really, for a peace deal, much like the Minsk Accords. The peace deal here is not rocket science. It basically assures neutrality and that nuclear-compatible missiles would not be brought to the very long Ukrainian border. Those nuclear-compatible missiles are already there on Russia’s border, establishing really a very serious threat. But placed on the Ukrainian border, they’re really close to Moscow.

And this is extremely inflammatory. I mean, this is the danger that was addressed in years past through the INF Treaty, the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty, which was a huge step forward in reducing the level of threat. Because when you think that you are about to be attacked and you have five minutes to make up your mind, that’s what really compels the trigger finger and really predisposes towards terrible decisions and rapidly escalating conflict. So that’s what the INF Treaty was going to control. And the INF Treaty was basically thrown away by Donald Trump and the U.S.

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And then that danger has been there, but only recently with the placement of these nuclear-compatible missiles on the border. And by the way, as tensions have been escalating now recently, the U.S. has also announced that it is going to bring nuclear-compatible missiles to Germany as well, which further inflames the situation. So there’s been a real escalating ladder of conflict with Russia basically saying that it will use nuclear weapons and it has done some military exercises with nuclear weapons. And it gets crazier and more dangerous by the hour.

At the same time, it’s clear that Ukraine does not have a path forward. There is no way this war is going to be won, which is why Obama wanted to stay out of it to start with. This isn’t the U.S. border. Russia obviously has huge stakes here in the same way that the U.S. was not going to allow Russia to bring its missiles to Cuba. There’s no way that Russia is going to allow U.S. and NATO missiles to be on its border.

So basically we’ve created a Cuban missile crisis now on steroids here. So this is extremely dangerous. It begs for resolution. It’s not going to be as simple as it would have been had we allowed the peace treaty to go through to proceed in February just after, maybe it was March, but it was shortly after the war had begun.

There was a peace deal which Russia had stepped up to the plate on and it included real compromises on Russia’s part. I think it left the long-term status of Crimea uncertain. I think it allowed the eastern provinces to remain independent.

So this nonsense that Russia is on a mission to expand its empire to the west and that Russia won’t compromise, this is nonsense. It’s like the very deceptive accusations that are thrown at Hezbollah. Hezbollah has agreed to the peace deal. It’s Israel that has not. And it’s the same in this instance. Russia has long agreed. It’s U.S. and the West that has been on this relentless tear to basically attack Russia as though nuclear weapons did not exist, as though there’s no risk here.

It’s like the U.S. leadership is reckless. It is clueless. It’s brain dead. It appears not to understand the nuclear risks here and the fact that you cannot have a convenient nuclear war somewhere else. It doesn’t take many exchanges of nuclear weapons to bring on nuclear winter, which is global. Just one nuclear-armed submarine contains the equivalent of 5,000 Hiroshima bombs. It only takes some scores of them, maybe 100, something like that, to actually bring on substantial nuclear winter, which gets redistributed.

Nuclear winter basically means when you see that mushroom cloud, that mushroom cloud is a conveyor belt. What it is doing is bringing debris into the upper atmosphere where it doesn’t weather down. It doesn’t come down with the rain or the snow or the wind. It’s up there for years or decades. It dims the sky so that we humans and civilization, we go the way of the dinosaurs. That’s what led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. It wasn’t a nuclear bomb. It was a meteor.

This is absolutely deadly for our leadership to be toying with nuclear threats. We should be eliminating all nuclear weapons from the face of the earth. We should be signing the nuclear ban treaty, which the majority of the world’s nations have signed. We are actually in violation of that U.N. treaty right now ourselves by continuing to possess nuclear weapons.

There is a simple path forward here. We should just sit down and negotiate. Let’s hammer out a deal because Ukraine has no future. Ukraine is being utterly destroyed. It has lost a generation. Now it’s losing generations on either side of that. The deaths have been absolutely off the charts to some extent for Russia as well. Russia has a much larger population, so it’s not so devastating.

The loss of human life here is outrageous. It’s completely unnecessary. This has really been instigated by the U.S. with its apologists in NATO. This can be stopped. This is, again, this is the bidding of the weapons industry to create yet another war, yet another market for selling weapons. This serves absolutely no one except the war profiteers, and it endangers all of us. It needs to be stopped now.

MICHAEL HUDSON: You use the word mired as if it’s a failure of U.S. policy as it was in Vietnam and Afghanistan.

That was the intention from the beginning. The U.S. strategy was to get mired because they said, if we can just mire down Russia in Ukraine, we will bleed its resources because the Russian economy, being post-communist, is basically inefficient.

All of the U.S. plans made by the CIA and national security analyzed that somehow Russia had so little ability to create an economic surplus and military technology that it would run out of it.

So what is a failure is the whole plan of the U.S. was thinking that, well, we can mire Ukraine down, and then in two years, Russia will be on its knees and the population will change for Russia.

Now, in the month after the Americans prompted the Russian counterattack in February 2022, Ukraine had $50 billion of foreign debt falling due to foreign investors. They postponed the foreign debt until Ukraine would win the war on August 1st— today! or tomorrow, actually. This was the date in which the $50 billion was to come through.

And obviously, Ukraine couldn’t pay. And I had hoped that the international investors would say, well, we’re not going to take a loss. Yes, we’re going to declare you in default.

And had they done what investors do, that would have blocked the IMF from making more loans to Ukraine in order to fund the war because you can’t make [loans to] the countries in default. But instead, the investor did something that they’ve not, the bondholders did something they’ve not done with any global South country. They took a 39% breakdown and postponed the interest rates for another three or four years when Ukraine wins the war, ostensibly, which of course means it’ll never be paid.

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And obviously, there was a lot of pressure on them. And we’re talking about BlackRock and PIMCO, the two largest financial firms in the world, not known for taking losses voluntarily. So I’m trying to figure out, this reflects something in the US strategy. What’s the strategy?

Well, it says that, yes, we’re going to make a deal for peace with Russia, but we’ve already been, we’ve grabbed all of Russia’s foreign exchange holdings in Europe, $300 billion. We’ve just given Ukraine all of the interest payments on this. Part of the peace deal, I think, that the United States is pressing for will say, okay, you have to spend the whole $300 billion that we’ve taken, give it to Ukraine as reparations.

Well, what I’m urging Russia to do is say, okay, we’re willing to give that $300 billion to Ukraine as reparations to Donetsk, Luhansk, and the Russian-speaking territories. Yes, we’ll spend that whole $300 billion in rebuilding the civilian infrastructure, civilian buildings, homes and apartment buildings that Ukrainian neo-Nazis have bombed. And we will rebuild the east of Ukraine. And there’ll probably be a demilitarized zone in the middle.

Obviously, none of this is going to be done before the November elections, because the Biden administration, Biden-Harris, the Democratic Party, believes that somehow if they would have peace in Ukraine now, the voters would all vote against it, not realizing that that was the one way to get the voters.

I think that’s why Donald Trump, not known for his pacifism, has been opposing the war in Ukraine.

So it’s amazing that the other both political parties imagine that the voters want America to win in Ukraine, to win in Palestine and Israel. And yet, Jill is the only candidate that actually is promoting what the voters want. And that, well, you can see that something is asymmetrical here.

DANNY HAIPHONG: Yeah. And maybe we can talk further too about the economic impact, because it feels like all of these wars, this endless war regime that the United States is leading and all of these, we haven’t even gotten to the Asia Pacific with China. But if we just look at Ukraine, there’s not only been massive sums of money sent to Ukraine, so-called aid, a lot of it going to the military industrial complex, of course.

But there’s also been the sanctions regime, which I know Michael, you’ve talked a lot about. The sanctions regime, which was supposed to cripple Russia, was supposed to destroy Russia, was supposed to do what it has done, at least in the economic sense, make people suffer. And then hopefully the governments will be overthrown.

It hasn’t really worked in other places. I mean, Nicolas Maduro is still the president of Venezuela. You know, we can go on and on and on of countries. Syria, Bashar al-Assad is still the president of Syria, despite crippling sanctions. Iran still has the same political leadership.

But nonetheless, that was the idea. So maybe you could talk about the, Dr. Stein, you can begin. The economic impact of sanctions and what you believe needs to be done about them, because across the political aisle, the two parties, but they are, there is no talk, zero about stopping sanctions. Sometimes Donald Trump says, oh, well, they’re not really working on Russia, but there’s no real talk about, well, maybe they need to be eliminated. Maybe they’re not useful. Maybe they are inhumane. Maybe they’re a war crime. But Jill Stein, your take.

JILL STEIN: So sanctions are, you know, I think they are a violation of international law. They are a form of unconventional warfare. It’s economic warfare. We know that tens of thousands of people were documented to have died in Venezuela from sanctions, you know, sanctions cause real shortages of food and medication and, they’re really a deadly weapon.

We not only need to, and the U.S. has something like one third, maybe more than that of the entire world’s population under sanctions right now, which reflects what a kind of misguided, you know, foreign policy the U.S. has. We’re kind of at war with the world.

We have a foreign policy described as a full spectrum dominance. We must dominate all spheres of competition and interaction. We will dominate all areas of the world, cyberspace, outer space, surface of the sea, land, under the sea, etc. We must dominate it all. And, you know, economies are part of that, that we, you know, presume to dominate.

And so that’s a problem too. It’s not only the sanctions. It’s like, it’s the sense of, you know, imperial power that underlies those sanctions, that those sanctions are intending to enforce. So we not only need to put away this very harmful enforcement mechanism, but we need to move from a unipolar world where we are basically the bully in the schoolyard to a, you know, we need to be an adult member of the global community and be part of a multipolar world, which is the reality.

I think, as Michael was saying earlier, that the U.S. is no longer the dominant economic power and the BRICS alliance has more of a share of GDP than we do. You know, China and BRICS actually are growing at far greater rate than we are. So it’s a very misguided policy all around and it’s a losing proposition.

So we need to both end the sanctions, but we also have to end the policy behind those sanctions that’s trying to dominate the world and, you know, move forward in a way that is, you know, based on a, we can have competition, but we don’t need a vicious, violent competition and the effort to dominate.

MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, to paraphrase a famous French saying, the sanctions are even worse than the violation of international law. They’re a blunder.

When you sanction a country, you force it to protect itself. Sanctioned Russian imports of agricultural food. What did Russia do? It produced its own cheese instead of importing cheese and dairy products from the Baltic States that now have lost that market.

When you sanction a country in essentials, the country very quickly produces essentials for itself because if it didn’t, it would go under. So every time you impose sanctions, you lose the market.

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Now, all this is being debated right now regarding China because the Democratic Party says, well, let’s put sanctions on information technology against China so they can’t get computer chips and the chips they need. And the result is that the major American providers of computer chips have said, wait a minute, China’s our major market. If we lose the Chinese market, we don’t have the profits anymore. How are we going to make, to get the money to invest in research and development?

Losing the Chinese market means they will produce the chips themselves. They will use the sales proceeds of the chips to fund their own research and development, which we can’t produce because of the sanctions. And it’s all economically, it’s backfiring.

So when Jill says this is the mentality of a bully in a schoolyard, that’s exactly what it is. It’s the mentality. The mentality doesn’t work. And so this is what the election really should be all about. What kind of a mentality are you going to have? How are you going to treat the world and other people?

Are you just going to say, if you don’t do what I want, I’m going to hurt you? Or are you going to do what Chinese policy is very careful to say, how can we both gain? The idea is that you can’t both gain because as Donald Trump says, America has to gain from any contract we have. There you have two different philosophies. That’s what’s splitting the whole world apart right now.

JILL STEIN: And if I can just add to that, it’s like the difference between being a kind of an insecure adolescent, you know, who needs to dominate their personal relationships, in which case, they’re not going to have healthy or, you know, mutual or long-lasting relationships. They’re going to have, you know, really toxic relationships. And you can just sort of amplify that at a national level.

And that’s the choice here. Are we going to have, you know, human interactions? Or are we going to have these kind of domineering sort of corporate dehumanized rules of the game? That’s really the choice we want. And we see in our own lives what it means to have a corporate-dominated economy and communities and to have lost our public spaces and our commons.

And, you know, health care is now, you know, very much, you know, intensively a matter of, everything is commodified, you know. Our housing does not meet human needs. It’s, you know, it’s a crisis.

I mean, whatever dimension of our lives you look at right now, people are in serious, serious crisis, really existential crisis, when half of all Americans are paying 30 to 50 percent of their income just to keep a roof over their heads, because, you know, housing policy has basically been hijacked by big profitable developers. And so you have the, you know, the private equity buying up homes massively and reducing the supply, so the rents are skyrocketing. People cannot afford their rent.

And this is true, really, actually, you know, really across the board with population. You have homelessness skyrocketing. Then, meanwhile, you have homelessness is criminalized. And so, you know, you have, like, the governor of California, who’s now doubling down and telling communities they have to get rid of their homeless populations. Where are they going to go, you know?

And meanwhile, Americans are one to two paychecks away from evictions. So this is not a world that’s working. You know, the crisis is in our foreign policy, and the crisis is very much, you know, in our lives, the fabric of our lives. And people are saddled with debt.

When you’re paying half of your income to keep a roof over your head, you know, how do you pay your student debt or your medical debt? Eight million Americans were driven into poverty just from medical debt last year.

You have, if you develop cancer, which rates are skyrocketing, by the way, especially in young people right now, if you develop cancer, the odds are within two years, you are, the odds are like 40%, at least, that you’re going to exhaust your savings within two years just trying to survive and cope with your cancer diagnosis.

So, you know, the walls are closing in on us. This, you know, this predatory economy and a predatory foreign policy, which in turn is robbing us of the resources we need to have a humanized economy. All of this is unsurvivable. It’s intolerable. And people are ready to rise up.

And, you know, again, I encourage people to go to JillStein2024.com. We have the numbers here to be a very powerful force.

In fact, this election is a perfect storm for a number of reasons, including that there are three pro-war, anti-worker campaigns that will be on the ballot dividing that vote. If we can get on the ballot across the country, you know, all bets are off about what will happen. That will also force the media to start covering us.

Right now, they can pretend that we are not a factor in the election because they’re just ignoring us. But once we are on the ballot for most voters across the country, then they really cannot lock us out of coverage.

DANNY HAIPHONG: Yes, indeed.

Well, maybe we can close on bringing this all together because, Michael, earlier you mentioned sanctions being a blunder. They do force countries like Russia to become far more self-sufficient. And we’ve seen a lot of success in that realm. And this has also been a huge boost to the multipolar world, to this alternative way of doing not just business, but also development in all spheres, the diplomatic, political, military.

And we’ve seen this with China getting increasingly involved around the Palestine question, hosting. All of this may be for naught now, given the intensity of the situation with what Israel and the U.S. has just conducted inside of Iran. But nonetheless, Palestinian leaders and groups did sign a declaration calling for unity under the Palestinian Liberation Organization.

And then we’ve also seen Russia get involved in this way.

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We’ve also seen major diplomatic achievements from the multipolar world. And also this drive, BRICS is holding their summit in Kazan in October. We’ve seen all BRICS countries, especially at the bilateral level, move more toward their respective currencies and away from the dollar and settling trade.

So Michael, maybe you could talk about just, how have these wars, whether we’re talking about what’s happening in West Asia with Gaza, the broader conflagration that’s emerging there, Ukraine, how have they really cascaded or accelerated this process toward a more multipolar world? You have framed it as almost like a split in civilizations.

MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, way back in 1955, you had the Conference of Non-Aligned Nations meeting in Indonesia. They realized that the way in which the American post-war order of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank and trade was working against them, but they couldn’t do it alone. And America was able to divide and conquer countries.

Well, what has changed all that was really beginning around 25 years ago, China was able to be independent and was able to rise very rapidly by getting rich in the same way that America got rich in the 19th century, by promoting industrialization, by preventing monopolies from taking over, and most of all, by keeping money and finance as a public utility in its own domain instead of letting the banks take over.

And so for 20 years now, just before the last few years’ war, you had countries realizing that we need a new economic order, let’s talk about it. You had a lot of academic work on it.

What has actually triggered this sense of urgency and making it pressing is precisely what you’re seeing not only in Ukraine, but above all in Israel. You’re having a fight against the principle of civilization itself. And Netanyahu, he said it quite efficiently. He said, this is a fight between civilization and barbarism. And it is.

He gets it confused as to who’s the civilization and who are the barbarians. That phrase comes from Rosa Luxemburg a century ago, who was killed by Nazis in Germany, along with Karl Liebknecht. And now you’re having, all of a sudden, when the rest of the nations see what’s happening in Ukraine, the fight for the last Ukrainian can be us. Japan is saying, well, if we join America, are we going to fight for the last Japanese? The Taiwanese are saying, well, if we really take American arms and fight China, are we going to die for the last Taiwanese?

And they’re looking at the anti-human behavior against Gaza, against the West Bank, against Lebanon. And they’re saying, this could be our future. This makes it urgent that we join together and create an alternative economy to the kind of world that the United States and the neoliberals are controlling, saying, if we can’t control you, we’ll wreck you.

Well, there has to be an alternative to being wrecked. And it’s not that there is a conflict. There’s no such thing as a Thucydian conflict. China, Russia, Iran, Eurasia, they don’t want to be like the West. They want to avoid being like the West. They want to say, you go your way, we’ll go ours. The West has failed as it’s being sucked into the US-sponsored unipolar neoliberalism.

They’re creating, sort of trying to reinvent the wheel politically and economically. They’re not looking at the past. They’re trying just very pragmatically to figure out how to go it alone. All they want to do is to go it alone.

And the United States is saying, we don’t want you to go alone. We want you to be financially colonized. We want to get your wealth, to siphon it off to the IMF, the World Bank, our foreign trade and investment. We want you to let us buy your commanding heights, to us buy your public utilities and make monopoly rents off them.

This is a whole fight for what kind of world we can have. And the urgency is about just how we started this whole discussion with the inhuman wars that we’re seeing in the Near East and Ukraine.

JILL STEIN: And if I can add to that, you know, about the urgency, we also have this genocide that’s going on, you know, right in front of our noses. And it’s not only that the housing has been totally destroyed, people have been completely displaced. They’re basically living on the street in tents if they’re lucky, but they’re out of tents as well. And they’re denied food and water. And now they have infectious diseases that are beginning to really escalate. And that’s cholera. It’s also polio, you know, which becomes really widespread in a population before you even begin to see it. And it looks like that has happened.

This is also a threat to Israel, by the way. These infectious diseases don’t stay, you know, contained. So this is a monstrous world.

And speaking to the urgency, you know, there’s the urgency of Americans who are just barely holding on to a roof over their heads, who don’t have the health care that they need, who 18 million people can’t afford their pharmaceuticals. You know, this is the false promises of the Democrats that they would pass a $15 minimum wage. They wouldn’t even bring it to a vote. You know, and $15 is no longer enough to support yourself or your family or keep a roof over your heads.

So it’s really the complete abandonment of working people in this country that is really in a state of emergency right now.

You have some, you know, 600,000 people or more on a given night that are out on the streets, and now they’re not allowed to sleep on the streets. So exactly where are they going to go?

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We have a world which is crashing and burning. Speaking of which, you know, look at the, you know, the wildfires that are burning out of control right now. And, you know, and the heat waves and the drought of the Colorado River, for example, which supplies the agricultural system of California, which in turn provides half the fruits and vegetables for the nation, Colorado River is going down.

So this is, this is an all out emergency here on so many fronts.

And specifically, you have the genocide. And there are some half million people who are at risk for dying this month, according to the UN World Food Program. So, you know, if you don’t like genocide, if you don’t like that blood on your hands, if you don’t like seeing these emaciated skeletons of children, and, you know, starvation is not like a quick death or a merciful death. This is torture. You know, these are families and children who are being tortured on an industrial scale. And this torture has gone on really for nine months.

This is, you know, this is like the opposite of civilization. This is unbelievable, really brutality, inhumanity, barbarism on an unprecedented scale that we’re watching now.

And Israel completely denies, is in all-out denial of, and the neocons here that support them, and the neoliberals that support them are completely, you know, in sync. It is a characteristic of genocide, according to some of the experts that, I’ve just done only the least little bit of reading on. But apparently, this is common. Populations that are committing genocide, people are committing genocide, feel like they are under threat themselves. And that is the mindset right now.

We need some adults in the room to stand up here, because they are dragging us all into this quagmire right now. And that goes nuclear. You know, I mean, that’s where we’re going. And we’re moving from a genocide right now to potentially a genocide on a civilizational scale here. That’s what nuclear war is. And we have leadership, which has lost their minds, not only Israel’s leadership, but the leadership in this country, who are collaborating with these monsters, these complete moral monsters, who don’t have a clue what they’re doing. They need to be removed from power as quickly as possible.

And I just really want to encourage people to have the courage of your convictions, you know, and don’t let your humanity be denied. And don’t be intimidated out of your vote. We have absolutely nothing to lose here by standing up and voting for what it is that we need. Don’t be talked into the lesser evil. Fascism is here. You only have to look at the heads being bashed in on campuses, the denial of our rights of free speech, the denial of our right to protest, the viciousness.

You know, it’s the Israeli occupation forces, which are training the police forces. We have 70 cop cities being built in this country. In just about every state now, you have cop cities that are being built.

You have the draft, which has been reactivated. It is now on automatic pilot. And your names and your children’s names are all going into that database. There is nowhere to run. Fascism is here. We have to stand up and we have to fight it. Do not be intimidated.

You know, a lot of the cop cities, a lot of the violence that’s taking place in defense of genocide here in this country is being committed by Democrats, whether it’s Mayor Adams in New York, whether it’s, you know, the cop cities in Atlanta, Georgia, for example. That’s all under Democrats. And people are trying to bring it to a referendum to shut it down. And they are trying to block that referendum.

Look at the whole process of this election within the Democratic Party. There was basically, you know, a primary was really not allowed to be held. And then there was this switcheroo that was orchestrated from on high, dictated from basically political elites inside the Democratic Party, decided that Joe Biden was out and Kamala Harris was in. There’s not been a single vote cast on behalf of Kamala Harris, but she is now the anointed candidate. There will not be an open convention.

You know, democracy is on life support in this country, if at all. So do not be intimidated into voting for genocide, voting for fascism. It’s here. It’s in both parties. The minor differences between them, you know, are not enough to save your job, to save your life, or to save the planet. The ship is going down here rather quickly.

And the one, you know, tool that we have, and I should say there is more than one tool, certainly action in the streets is a very powerful tool, but we cannot let them talk us out of our power to vote. We have to vote and we have to stand up and demand our right to vote and to vote for a candidate of our choice who actually represents us, not AIPAC, not the war machine, not the big pharma and the health insurance companies.

So I just really want to encourage people to stand up. Do not let yourself be, you know, drummed and propagandized into powerlessness. We do have the power.

In the words of Alice Walker, the biggest way people give up power is by not knowing we have it to start with. Whether you look at 68% of Americans who vehemently object to this genocide, whether you look at 44 million young people locked into student debt, you know, 100 million in medical debt, things that we can fix right here and now, we have the numbers.

And, you know, this is a, you know, a once in a lifetime opportunity in this election to stand up and fight back while we still can. And however far we get, we become a force to contend with, whether we take the White House or we simply win the day by establishing a strong force, which will continue to organize and to contest for power.

Look at what just happened in France. How did France beat back the right wing? By standing up, by the forces on the left joining together.

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It was the same thing [with] Allende in Chile. When Allende prevailed, that was thanks to Pablo Neruda, who joined forces with him. And so you had the two progressive campaigns coming together so that they could prevail. Unfortunately, the CIA then, you know, overturned that revolution. But, you know, we have to take it and then we have to stay on it.

And, you know, the world is in rebellion right now. The US and Israel are alone together in this genocide. And that is not a, you know, that’s not an alliance that can prevail against the rest of the world. So we need to stand up. We need to protect and preserve international law, because when you’re no longer the bully in the schoolyard, you need international law. So we have to stop setting it aside and destroying it. We need to be a team player. The adults in the room need to come forward here, including in this country. And we need to stand up and take our democracy back. And that starts right now.

DANNY HAIPHONG: Indeed. And, Michael, do you have any final comments?

MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, nobody can be more eloquent than what Jill just said. I wanted to sum up the voting issue. Many people accuse her campaign as being a wrecker for the Democratic Party. And they say, you know, if you’re going to get votes, it’s going to be just like Ralph Nader in 2000. You’re going to make the Democrats lose.

Well, that’s the objective. The Democrats are what have become the neoliberal party, the war party. When even Donald Trump moves to the left of the Democrats and is a peace candidate in Ukraine, you see how crazy it is.

Yes, a vote for Jill is a vote away from Democrats. That’s why I want you to vote for her.

JILL STEIN: And it’s the only way to shut down Republicans, I must say, because neoliberalism is the cause of, of, of neofascism. It is not the solution to it. The Democrats have been funding the most extremist wing of the Republican party in the same way that the Pied Piper campaign, you know, revealed through the WikiLeaks in the Podesta emails, the Pied Piper campaign was all about elevating the most radical fringe element of the Republicans. And that was Donald Trump, whom they promoted in the news and with their media contacts and all that. They were all about running against Trump.

And they’ve continued that, you know, very successful policy, you know, that absolutely outrageous strategy. They’re still following it.

And in the 2022 midterms, they spent some $50 million elevating the most extremist candidates within the Republican party, sponsoring them, contributing to them so that they would win their primaries and make it easier to win in the general. But unfortunately then, they take on a life of their own within the Republican party.

So both of these parties are absolutely corrupt. They are up to their eyeballs in the swamp in very big money. You can now contribute a hundred, $1 million at a pop. That’s even not even using super PACs where you can contribute billions if you want, you know, it’s absolutely limitless, but even within the non-super PAC contributions, the limit is now 1 million. The system only gets more corrupt by the day. We need a system of public financing.

And by the way, the department of treasury, the Democratic department of treasury is withholding our matching funds. We are supposed to have $300,000 approximately in matching funds that we would be using to complete our ballot drives now to ensure that all voters have an anti-genocide, anti-war, pro-worker, climate emergency choice on the ballot.

They’re withholding the money. They are pulling out all the stops. They’ve hired an army of lawyers and they have publicly advertised for spies and infiltrators and people to manage them in our campaigns. In order, that’s how scared they are. They know their days are numbered.

Greens and independents don’t need to steal their thunder because they already lost their thunder. Democrats did this to themselves. They started losing their base in 2010 after the Wall Street bailouts, after you know, after the Democratic party trifecta in both houses and in the white house, um, uh, bailed out wall street and threw out seven or 8 million homeowners, you know, add to that NAFTA and essentially the loss of 30 million jobs, uh, over the last couple of decades.

So working people have been devastated, particularly by the Democratic party. And that’s when votes really began to shift. That was the biggest spoiled election that the Democrats have ever had. They lost 1000 seats in the state legislatures. They lost 64 seats in Congress and 13 or 14 in the Senate and the same number of governorships. So they have done this to themselves.

They try to blame it on us. They just need a scapegoat. Like they’re trying to blame, you know, everything on immigrants right now. The Republican party is all about demonizing immigrants and the democratic party is all about demonizing Republicans. And that’s about as far as we will get with those two parties. So we have to stand up and fight back. Democrats are not how we fight back.

We’ve got to do that. We have an agenda for that, which is up on our website and it’s what we’ve been talking about here today. So I’d say join the revolution and, uh, let’s make it happen again. Go to Jill Stein2024.com and, uh, really appreciate you.

Thank you so much, Michael, for all you do. I learn every, I learn a lot every time I, uh, every time I have a conversation with you and Danny, thank you so much for making this possible and all your fabulous work.

We need a free press, and support, support this channel here for making that possible. Of course.

DANNY HAIPHONG: Well, one thing, uh, for our purposes, uh, the reason why Jill Stein is here, the reason why Michael Hudson, I bring on people like Michael Hudson here is because a campaign like Jill Stein’s is really, as you said, Jill, the Democrats, Republicans, there’s no chance for the purposes of this channel. We talk a lot about geopolitics. We would talk a lot about peace. We talk a lot about, uh, war.

There’s no candidate. Kamala Harris, Donald Trump, Democrat, Republican, those two parties, they will not address these questions, no matter what they say, they are not going to change the political calculus worldwide. They will not bring us closer to peace, which means all these other things that Dr. Stein has brought up and that Michael has brought up, they will not be addressed either. So that’s why we are here today.

But do you guys have time for a couple of quick questions from the audience just to close it out?

JILL STEIN: Um, yeah. Uh, quick ones, but I, I sure, sure. So I won’t go over everyone. Uh, sorry. We have time constraints. Um, so I’m going to not go over all the super chats, but we do have one, a super chat question and one Patriot member question. I’m gonna start with the Patriot member question. Cause it’s a good one. It’s from Jeff.

He said, how will the Greens, if elected, pragmatically defend themselves from efforts to sabotage their campaign? So you talked a little bit about that because they’re interested in, and you even brought it up, Jill, with with Salvador Allende, right? Like we’re not even at that stage yet, but nonetheless, the repression is there. So, so how, how pragmatically, how do you address that kind of thing?

JILL STEIN: Yes. So there’s no silver bullet here and, and that’s going to be a big issue, but there are many things we need to do and can do to re-engage democracy. And let me say that we will not get elected into the White House without there being a strong grassroots movement. And above all that grassroots movement will not be put on the shelf, which is what Barack Obama did once he broke a whole lot of barriers, you know, and then he appointed Larry Summers and it was clear where he was going with his campaign, it was about Wall Street. It wasn’t about grassroots power.

So let me just say to everyone who supports this campaign, it’s not over. You know, if, if we, however much we prevail, we have to keep going, whether we win the White House or we don’t win the White House, we have to keep going. But especially if we win the White House we will need to have a concerted ongoing grassroots movement.

And among the things that we will re-engage to make democracy possible are town hall meetings so that we are holding our elected, our electeds accountable. We used to do that. Right now, our electeds are too busy talking to their big donors to be held, you know, to have their feet held to the fire by their constituents. So we will bring back town hall meetings and, using the bully pulpit, which they cannot deny us. We will blame and shame those who are not meeting with their constituents and who are not representing them.

We’ll also bring back congressional hearings and we will also undertake an antitrust lawsuit against consolidated media so that we will break up media. You know, all this is day one stuff that we can start aside from, you know, ending the flow of weapons to Israel declaring a climate emergency as well, because the minute you declare the emergency, you unleash over half a trillion dollars in funding to actually begin the Green New Deal.

So, you know, we will not come into this blind and naive. We won’t come into this after decades of, you know, of harassment, smears, smear campaigns and fear campaigns.

You know, we will also fight to make social media a public utility so that it’s not in the business of being controlled and censored by, you know, by Elon Musk and the likes.

You know, we need a strong democracy. We also need to tear down oligarchy because when money and power is highly concentrated in a few hands, it has all kinds of ways to destroy democracy. So, you know, we need multiple initiatives on multiple fronts.

And I will also say that there are many people running for Congress right now who are Greens or Socialists or DSA who are running on a similar agenda. And so we will have allies. There’s no way that we will get into the White House without there being a wave of, you know, people-powered representatives also coming into power.

So we basically, you know, fight by staying organized and staying vigilant and knowing what’s coming.

And by the way, among the congressional hearings that we intend to hold are hearings on actually the history of the CIA and the role of the deep state in undermining our democracy and our foreign policy. The record needs to be set straight.

MICHAEL HUDSON: So what Jill’s saying is this is just the beginning.

DANNY HAIPHONG: Well, actually, let’s cut it here, everyone. I am so appreciative of your Super Chats. I want to say thank you to Ken, Nadia. I know you had a question, but thank you so much. We’ll have to get to another time. J.D., Heinz, Josh, Lucky, duly noted, Barbara, you all left Super Chats. Thank you so much for that. But we will wrap it up here. Thank you so much, Dr. Stein. Thank you so much, Professor Hudson, for joining me today. Thanks to all the people in the audience. You can find the links both to Jill Stein’s campaign as well as Michael Hudson’s website where you can find all of his books and works in the video description.

You can support this channel and the links in the video description as well from Patreon, Substack, YouTube membership, PayPal and more. We will be heading out of here right now. Take care, everyone. And I’ll be back soon. Bye bye. Thanks so much.

 
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  1. Anonymous[721] • Disclaimer says:

    Re: the assassination of Ismail Haniya in Iran… Good riddance. Haniya was a perfidious POS who supported the overthrow of Assad and Syria.

    New York Times

    Hamas Supports Syrian Opposition
    Feb. 24, 2012

    GAZA —A leader of Hamas spoke out against President Bashar al-Assad of Syria on Friday, throwing its support behind the opposition and stripping Damascus of what little credibility it may have retained with the Arab street. It was Hamas’s first public break with its longtime patron.

    Hamas’s prime minister in Gaza, Ismail Haniya, said during Friday Prayer, “I salute all people of the Arab Spring, or Islamic winter, and I salute the Syrian people who seek freedom, democracy and reform.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/25/world/middleeast/hamas-leader-supports-syrian-opposition.html

    Hamas aligns itself with US imperialism against Syria, Iran

    Sahand Avedis
    1 March 2012

    Hamas leader Ismail Haniya delivered a speech last Friday at Al-Azhar mosque in Cairo endorsing the Western-backed opposition in Syria and thereby confirming speculation in recent months that the Palestinian Islamist movement has found new patrons among the most reactionary regimes of the Middle East. These apparently include the military junta in Egypt, the Arab monarchies of the Persian Gulf and Turkey.

    Hamas’s reorientation points ultimately toward a complete break with Iran and Syria and rapprochement with US imperialism. This aptly called “seismic” shift has already expressed itself in the most recent position of the group’s leadership toward reconciliation with Fatah in the West Bank and its willingness to abandon armed struggle against Israel and ultimately endorse a two-state solution.

    “I salute all the nations of the Arab Spring and I salute the heroic people of Syria who are striving for freedom, democracy and reform,” declared Haniya. He was answered by worshipers, most of them supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis, who chanted slogans against Iran and Hezbollah, which have sided with the regime of Bashar al-Assad against the Western-backed opposition in Syria…

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2012/03/hama-m01.html

    So Haniya goes bitch for Israel and the AngloZionist Empire a dozen years ago. He cashed in his thirty pieces of silver with… 🚀 💥 💥 💥

    • Thanks: Dragoslav
    • Troll: mark green, One Nobody
  2. Anon[248] • Disclaimer says:

    While it’s evident that Jill Stein is incomparably better than the authorized figureheads, the sad truth is you can’t vote your way out of this. When I voted for Greens in 2000, the vote count in my state was secret. The state refused to disclose it. At that point I said fuck it.

    The way forward is international solidarity, which is built into the G-77 (really 130 or so) and the G-192. We have to work with the outside world to do to the beltway bloc what we did to the Soviet bloc: knock it over, rip it apart, wreck what’s left of its defense industrial base. Your old running mate Ajamu Baraka is doing solidarity as civil society, not wasting effort on election ceremonies rigged by CIA. It’s slow work but it’s not hard because it’s mainly accelerationism, or sabotage. We simply run with the collapse. If they need to nuke the beltway, all the better. This state is at war with us now.

    I hope Jill Stein is elected Tribune of the People in a demilitarized successor state.

  3. Zumbuddi says:

    U.S. Presidents: Criminal History of Murderous Thugs

    Video Link

    When Presidents Kill
    https://www.creators.com/read/judge-napolitano/08/24/when-presidents-kill

    • Thanks: Agent76
    • Replies: @mocissepvis
    , @Donkey Kong
  4. Ivan K. says: • Website

    Japan is saying, well, if we join America, are we going to fight for the last Japanese?

    Russian-Japanese trade increases wonderfully, Japanese support for Arab states is one of few areas Japan has independent foreign policy in,starting from 1973 oil crisis. On the other hand, you have the mayor of Hiroshima refusing to host Russian delegates at the official ceremony, and Japan generally continuing a policy of a vassal state. And that’s important as an instance of a most dramatic development across the non-Western world. The governments of most of the Eurasian, African, Latin American governments are staffed with people who have risen with and often thanks to the rise of neoliberalism. Their loyalties are divided, and changes in their countries are necessarily going to be tempestuous, with switching sides, – even switching back and forth, changes of heart, separate changes of mind, and backstabbings, in all kinds of combinations.

    The romantic polarity between Good and Evil you’re portraying :
    “the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart, and through all human hearts. every human heart.”

    There’s no such thing as a Thucydian conflict. []

    Amen. Please repeat this as often as possible. Because the fallacy of Thucydides Trap is repeated even by people who should know better, like The Duran hosts and some of their guests…. creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    • Agree: tamberlint
    • LOL: showmethereal
  5. Pythas says:

    To hell with these low-life asiatic scumbags in the middle-east….

    • Replies: @Cloud Posternuke
  6. “Izrael crossed Hezbollah and Iran’s redline WW3 impends”

    no, Mike and Jill, WW3 does not impend:

    Izrael crossed Hez/Iran’s publically and noisily proclaimed (first) Red line when it sent IDF into Gaza.

    and Hez/Iran did nothing about it but blahblahblahblah….

    and will do nothing substantial about Izrahell’s latest “red line crossing”

    other than more blahblahblah…and another barrage of bottle rockets that hit nothing in particular.

  7. The assassination in Iran could not have happened without U.S technology and equipment so it is a U.S assassination.

    Iran has to be smart about retaliation by not targeting the trigger man but the enabler.

    It’s time for the war to be fought on American territory…high tech industries should be the target inside U.S borders…its time for Americans to experience what they do to others.

  8. Anon 284 says:

    Cant wait for iran and the hizzies to wipe out israel. Hope they kill thousands of zionazis and send them fleeing into the sea in fear

    Fucking evil cowards

    • Agree: Druid
  9. once you tell your population and your voters this is a war for defense, as the Nazis know, you can always get a—as Goebbels said, you can always get a population on your side if you say it’s for defense.

    It’s a Göring quote:

    “Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

    The difference is that Germany was actually under threat of invasion when Göring was speaking. But presently, America is the aggressor state trying to conjure up a threat.

    • Agree: Annacat, HdC
    • Thanks: Robert Bruce
    • Replies: @Saggy
  10. @Pythas

    Yeah, we have enough domestic problems of our own.

    We are in no shape to allow ourselves the “luxury” of meddling in foreign affairs overseas anymore. Europe is a crisis-shaken backwater now, our days of having any global relevance are numbered and we are forced to turn our eyes inward.

    Furthermore, there are countless growing and blooming Sunni states around Israel and many parts of the world with hundreds of millions of inhabitants. Palestine is primarily their responsibility and they don’t do jack shit.

    • Replies: @Unbornawakened
  11. If there is a WW3 then one thing will be certain…Germany will be the loser again.

    Fool me once shame on you…continuing to fool me is the German national identity!

    Not to long ago the Germans were the envy of the world with their booming industrial power…enter Germany’s kryptonite, the Zionist banking and propaganda power, this time based in Washington, and their boy in power in Germany throws sand into the gears of the German machine.

    Will the Germans throw off the yoke of guilt and forge a future…Germans did conduct atrocities during war, but atrocities were also perpetuated on them, so those keeping them down aren’t innocent and cannot take the moral high ground.

    Time to rid yourself of the occupation and traitors Germany.

  12. This article is a diversion. An obscene diversion, given the stakes. Let me explain.

    Control F: ‘jew’, Control F: ‘jewish’.

    No mention in this article of the word ‘jew’ or ‘jewish’.

    I used to nod my head in agreement at articles like this, at discussions like this, at discourse like this.

    Then I read a book published in 1953 by anti zionist jew Alfred M. Lilienthal titled ‘What Price Israel’.

    Lilienthal explains clearly how the zionist jews took over every jewish organization in the US. Lilienthal explains clearly how the jewish diaspora was organized to be American warriors for Israel.
    Lilienthal explains clearly how ELECTORAL needs and NOT IMPERIAL needs explains the US support of Israel.
    Lilienthal explains clearly how zionist jews in the US took over the electoral process and thus took over the foreign policy of the US in relation to Israel.
    Lilienthal describes the fall of 1948 when a murderous terrorist, Menachem Begin, head of Irgun, did a triumphant tour of the US, supported by the US media and US politicians, despite the fact that the US State department tried to prevent his entry. President Truman, running for re-election, personally approved the visa.

    So, to frame the current situation clearly the word ‘jew’ must be used. The jewish leadership of jewish zionist organizations and the jewish control of media and activist jewish billionaires means jewish zionist control of US foreign policy. Yes there are anti zionist jews. But they have no political power. This must be said openly.

    The only way anything will change is by framing the situation accurately. Jewish zionist organizations control the US political system. The three contributors to this article are not interested in a solution, because they refuse to frame the problem accurately. They are diverting your attention. The jewish diaspora in the US is incredibly well organized and powerful, at every level of class stratification. And they use their power to control US foreign policy. The jewish political activists who were over-represented in the Bolshevik party learned how to take over the state by taking control of key positions at the top of the state hierarchy. Though arguably Stalin eventually reduced their power, this method of a minority taking control of state power has been imitated in the US to get us to where we are now.

    I don’t care ‘why’ the writers of this article have not told us the facts I have provided above, or ‘why’ they refuse to use the word ‘jew’ or ‘jewish’. I’m just pointing out the reality of what they are doing.

  13. @Ivan K.

    Japan is just another Asian country with low earning potential. It looks increasingly like a tier 3 Chinese city, gone are the days of LV and Armani on every salaryman.

    Except there’s more tax, compulsory nenkin/hoken (now tied to visa renewal) and an increasinly worthless Yen that no one even considers.

    So I really don’t get the mentality at all and its increasingly going to lead to conflict as educated people from developed countries at least will call it out for its second rate living standards, lack of spending power, and/or tourists regarding Japan as a “cheap” travel destination.

    “Do you like (visiting) here? “Yes, its cheap”.
    “Do you like (living/working ) here? “No, Kyuuryo wa yasui”

    Sounds like Vietnam or Thailand. Not the look Japan wants but it is what it is.

    • Thanks: Derer
  14. Curiously, just days before October 7, 2023, Netanyahu also traveled to the United States in search of support.

    • Agree: JR Foley
    • Replies: @DanFromCT
  15. Israel and the U.S have the divide and rule method down to a fine art…there are too many Arab states working for the evil empire.

    We have Erdoğan huffing and puffing and threatening to blow the Jewish house down but this emphysemic old wolf couldn’t blow out his own birthday candles…Biden would probably do a better job.

    Why is this? Because the U.S and Israel have brought these Arab states with 30 bits of silver!

    I wonder how this will look once those states, who betrayed their people, look in their vaults and see it filled with U.S IOUs’, you may as well have a vault full of confetti.

  16. @Anon

    Earth on the Edge of Armageddon. Where 8 BILLION people could be sacrificed so that 8 MILLION self-Chosen narcissists can continue to steal, loot and JEWnocide their neighbors. WEF’s Klaus Schwab explained why We, The 8 Billion are on our own: Jews have “penetrated the Cabinets” of governments around the world, and so own them. Leaving We, The 8 Billion, without representation; ripe for depopulation. Mankind must negotiate for our survival ourselves
    So let us UNITE as Humanity. In every city, town, and village across the planet! Let us negotiate for peace.
    Visit your local synagogue in your own communities and request the Rabbi demand an immediate halt to these endless ZIONIST wars. No violence, no raging, no destruction. Now!
    Not just for the lives of Muslims & Jews, but All of us.
    We, The 8 Billion, also have the Right to Defend ourselves.

    • Agree: Derer, John Trout, Getaclue
  17. SafeNow says:
    @Mr Chow Mein

    “It’s time for the war to be fought on American territory…high tech industries should be the target inside U.S borders.”

    Christopher Caldwell has mused that the military contractors now possess many of the defining characteristics of ….wait for it…countries. To the extent this is true, Russia is at war not just with The U.S. and The EU, but with Lockheed, Raytheon, and General Dynamics.

    • Agree: NeverTrustaWizard
  18. If they want WW3, this time they are set to lose big time. Unless nuclear armageddon takes place and everybody loses.

    But the Jewnited states of Arrogance can’t win, they couldn’t even beat Afghanistan, how could they wage a war against Iran, Yemen, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Russia, Venezuela, then China, North Korea, etc…

    As for illegal state “Israel”… Without Us support for 3 months, they’d simply disappear from the map.

    The west has reached such a level of decadence, weakness and stupidity that it is soon ripe for being plucked without much effort by any competent opponent.

    And they want to attack Iran and keep waging war on Russia?

    My God, we have a collection of world champions of imbecility in power in most western countries. The result of 150 years of Jewish domination.

    Why the US cannot say no to Netanyahu
    https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/opinion/why-the-us-cannot-say-no-to-netanyahu

    THE PEOPLE CAN CHANGE EVERYTHING, NOT BY VOTING BUT BY ELIMINATING THE ELITES AND THEIR SERVANTS. IT TAKES COURAGE AND ACTION, THE LIKE WE’VE SEEN IN THE UK THIS WEEK.

  19. meena says:

    “The claim is simply that, oh, Israel has bought the U.S. Congress through its campaign contributors. But there’s a circular flow. Congress will give aid to Israel. Israel will use some of the aid it gets to pay back into the lobbying effort to pay the congressmen. So everything, some portion of whatever they give Israel ends up in their own pockets. That’s the circular flow we have, thanks to Citizens United and related things. So you’re having a whole system that is so dysfunctional that I think a lot of American voters think there’s nothing we can do. The system is so corrupt.”

    Despite not having any access to provilged or insider information ,this was my view all alomg .We pay Israel to bribe our leaders who then send more money ,more war -portn paraphrenalia and defense gadgets to Israel who demnads more from those bribed , and we provide diplomatic cover .

    Other countries should get the fact, observe and take corrective action from this ever visiting and destroying other nations.

    .

    • Replies: @OrangeSmoke
  20. anastasia says:

    Any government that states that “we can win a nuclear war” and many in government have made that statement, is a government that doesn’t give a damn about its own citizens, or any other human being, for that matter.

    That’s what Americans should know. Their government views them as nothing better than cannon fodder.

    You cannot win a nuclear war without spending the lives of at least hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @24th Alabama
  21. Saggy says: • Website
    @Suetonious

    America is the aggressor state trying to conjure up a threat.

    The US is unique, it doesn’t need a threat. It’s been at war for 100 years without a threat in sight, first pointed out in 1929.

    • Thanks: Crush Limbraw, HdC
    • Replies: @Suetonious
  22. Anon[304] • Disclaimer says:

    Archbishop of Canterbury @JustinWelby

    The International Court of Justice has made clear that Israel’s presence in the Occupied Palestinian Territories is unlawful and needs to end rapidly.

    The State of Israel has been denying the Palestinian people dignity, freedom and hope.

    Read my statement here: https://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/news/news-and-statements/archbishop-canterbury-statement-icjs-advisory-opinion-israel-and-occupied (https://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/news/news-and-statements/archbishop-canterbury-statement-icjs-advisory-opinion-israel-and-occupied)

    • Agree: John Trout
  23. @Mr Chow Mein

    I agree with you, except for right here:

    …the Zionist banking and propaganda power, this time based in Washington,

    It’s not based in Washington; it’s based in the Square Mile, the City of London.

    https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/the-city-of-london/

  24. @WingsofaDove

    Thank you! Many times over, thank you!

    You have nailed it exactly.

    This article is either controlled opposition or outright propaganda.

  25. IronForge says:

    No WW3. Hyperbole.

    This is a Localized Conflict btwn Israel and Hamas/Hizbollah/Iran.

    A “Game of GeoPolitical Risks” that the Hegemony are playing carefully as their “Essential State” Greater Israel are pushing to fell Iran’s Govt.

    *Murica are there to keep it Localized – possibly engage Iran. I hope Murica engage only in response to direct attacks to Murica+Assets by Iran – not as Aggressors against Iran – though the Proxy Houthi Missile+Drone Shootings technically have Murica indirectly engaging Iran through the Houthi.

    Murica are now going to redirect their Patriot, THAAD, and other Air/Ballistic Missile Defense Batteries to Israel – abandoning UKRaine. Those F-16s are going to have to be hidden well, or parked in Poland overnight – they’ll think doing so and having those F-16s land in Ukraine before engaging Russia would protect the F-16s – probably not…

    Priorities, Priorities…

    IF Murica engages Iran, they’ll probably stick to hammering their Military and Costal+Offshore Hydrocarbon Operations. We had several of our Naval Ships gun and bomb Iranian Oil Rigs – as well as engage in other Operations during the Earnest Will Gulf Naval Convoy Escorts – I was there in the Gulf for some of these Operations. My Ship was the Air Warfare Coordinator; and a few of my friends were onboard those Warships in direct engagements against Iranian Assets – one was warned of an Iranian Anti-Ship Missile allegedly heading directly on a path towards his Battlestation (Aft Guns) – he told me that all he could do was squat and hold his helmet when “Brace for Impact” was announced – lucky it didn’t make it to the ship…

    Hammering their Hydrocarbon Operations sounds quite damaging: but last time I checked, there were CHN_PLA and PRK_KPA Advisors there – perhaps they’ll be given warnings to Evac…

    [MORE]

    So Iran are in a position where the Livelihoods of their Citizens can be severely disrupted. Iran can’t be invaded, Tehran Conquered, nor their Costal+Offshore Facilities Taken Over – so while Israel may target those Assets, Murica directly Joining the Fray can be disastrous to Iran if Murica sticks to Stand-Off Volleys…

    *Russia are engaged over UKRaine against NATO/€URoGarten – Everyone knows that NATO escalating into a direct engagement would involve €URoGarden being Cratered with Hypersonics.

    Russia will focus on Demilitarization of Ukraine; and possibly entertain several more Oblasts willing to join Moscow instead of being guaranteed Serfs to BlackRock, other Western Rentier-Banks, and Corporations.

    Russia won’t be able to stabilize SYR if Assad decides to intervene against Israel – pretty sure Russian Bases, and Assad himself may be At Risk should he engage – Erdogan just might look for excuses to enter+take Syrian Lands.

    Safe to say Moscow told Assad to stay out and stay put;

    *€URoGarten’s Main Player Scholz already said that they’re NOT going to engage Russia directly. Poles are wishful thinking; and may be a Nation-State Runner-up to UKRaine in the Darwin Awards Ceremony in the near future;

    *GBRitsh are Murica’s Vassal-Agitators. Pwn’d by Murica and their Navy may no longer qualify as an Ocean Traversing “Blue Water Navy”. They’ll try to prolong the war to launder Public Funding to their MIC – like Murica;

    *France – mentioned just because they have Nukes. No they’re not going to engage – because they can’t…

    *India are Neutral; and are buying up all the Hydrocarbons they can at attractive prices;

    *China already told Iran to curb their arms supplies to the Houthi or lose the China Trade – which may cascade over to BRICS+ and SCO;

    *NOBODY wants Iran to shut down the Hormuz or disrupt Gulf Shipping.

    Israel and Iran can Fight to their hearts’ content. I prefer Murica NOT to send Israel any War Funding from Murican Taxpayers; but Israel funding their own Wars with Israel Bonds and man themselves not with Non-Jewish Murican Veterans fighting Israel’s Antagonists but with their IDF, Settler-Militia, and Diaspora Volunteers.

    FJBrandon sent in some Special Forces into Israel; but I hope those roles were relatively minimal.

    No WW3. No One’s going Fight World Polar Powers, nor will the Polar Powers fight each other for the sake of UKRaine, Iran, or for Israel.

    Israel and Iran are too far distanced with too small Militaries where they’ll resort to Assymetrics, Agents, Drones, Missiles, and possibly through other Channels.

    If FJBrandon, Harris, Blinken, Austin, and/or Schumer Lobby for more, sure there will be Public Dissent calling for them to STFU.

    No WW3…

  26. Zumbuddi says:

    Israel Just Crossed Hezbollah and Iran’s Red Line: WWIII Looms

    Sez who?

    Fascinating how Americans are orgasmic for Iran to wipe out Israel.

  27. Jill Stein is correct actually in that neoliberalism is driving a fascism response. She has no viable solution though, the damage that leads to it has already been caused.

    Multiculturalism has been a disaster for the white race and even joe and jane normie have reached their inflection point on this issue.

    In other words, it’s gotten so hard to ignore that even people who’s highest hope is “live and let live” are getting pissed off. Whites have not rioted like this since desegregation and that was a “future consequences unknown” for most whites. What has been happening now is a known. Most have seen it with their own eyes at this point.. and frequently.

    • Agree: mocissepvis
    • Thanks: TKK
  28. @meena

    If that were true all we would need to do is stop all aid to Israel and the whole cycle would collapse. Of course stopping aid to Israel would not change anything because the true nature of Israel’s power is based upon Organized Jewry’s control which includes the over 500 Jewish organizations, the Jew oligarchs (Larry Ellison, Safra Ada Catz, Michael Dell, Bill Ackman, Howard Schultz, Paul Singer, Leon Cooperman, Bernard Marcus, Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, Steve Ballmer, Michael Bloomberg, Stephen Schwarzman, Miriam Adelson, Steve Cohen, and many more.) and the Jews who have infiltrated every government organization, literally having total control of the Biden administration.

    All the focus is on the “Israeli lobby’s” power on M.E. policies, their political control extends to much, much more like open borders, the war in Ukraine to provoke the Russians due to the genetic hate Jews have for them, the destruction of the U.S. as a majority white Christian nation by pushing DEI and Woke ideology, subverting voting and making our media less truthful than Soviet Union’s Pravda. I’d say the Israeli issue is the minor part of the problem.

    You can bet that AIPAC handler assigned to our corrupt congressmen does not limit his spying and “suggested policies” to Israeli issues. This is much like the Stasi network created in East Germany.

  29. Sesto says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    This response seems more reasonable than the blather coming from the Haiphong interview.

    As far as I can tell, this assassination is a major humiliation for Iran and its allies in the region. To not be able to guarantee the security of foreign-allied dignitary guests, much less your own statesman—the recent helicopter crash killing Iran’s President being a potential prime example—signals to the world that Iran really is something of a paper tiger. In such case their next moves really do have to be “Armagedddon” in scope to have any credibility vis-a-vis Israel and America.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @showmethereal
  30. Miro23 says:
    @anastasia

    You cannot win a nuclear war without spending the lives of at least hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people.

    The Jewish mafia really don’t care about that and they want their war. The US golem fights it for them and should millions of goys die – so what?

    But flipping that round.

    A level playing field implies no goy concern for the loss of millions of Jewish lives. If this time round, Jews lose a genuine 6 million who cares?

    • Agree: A B Coreopsis
    • Replies: @anastasia
  31. Rush says:

    Remember that when Israel struck Arab military installations setting off the Six Day War in 1967 it took France just a day or two to slap an arms embargo on Israel, for attacking military hardware.

    Yet after ten months of violence against civilian areas just to get to terrorists hiding there there is still no arms embargo from the US.

    France of course had different interests in the Middle East then from what the US has now.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  32. Sooner or later our idiot neo-cons are going to find a way to provoke a nuclear war that ends humanity and this planet.

    In their sick minds that is winning and that is all that matters.

  33. MoT says:

    We shall see. It’s the weekend and I have yet to witness anything dramatic.

  34. WCH says:

    Hundreds of articles similar in content to this round table have been published on UNZ yet nothing has changed. The bullies continue to terrorize and the spectators watch and talk. This is a slow trip to nowhere.

    • Replies: @Odd Rabbit
    , @mocissepvis
  35. Organic says:

    Jill might like to work on the bad habit of repeatedly saying “you know”, as a public speaker surprised someone hasn’t pointed it out and got her working on that.
    Her policies aren’t perfect, seeing the same socialist block that has done so much damage to France hanging onto power as a good thing is worth considering. But seems she is the only Green worldwide that doesn’t love war.
    Still she’s proposing quite a few good things to reduce US corruption, however she is though pro-vaccine, she states she will guarantee the human rights of the 2SLGBTQIA+ community, and she endorsed the Green New Deal, including a ban on new fossil fuel infrastructure and a shift to 100 percent renewable energy by 2030. So she is not an old style leftist, but a woke leftist.

  36. I believe it is obvious why all of a sudden the US and Israel want their war with Iran now. Trump has been surging after the assassination attempt. The only way to reverse the momentum in favor of the Neo-Con Zionist Republican Wing of IsraelIUSA and swing it to the Liberal-Pseudo-Marxist Democrat Wing of IsraelUSA is to start a war as fast as possible. The American people of either party should be outraged that a war is going to break out against Iran-Russia-Turkey by the Israel-Occupied USA and tiny IDL. But once again media is able to spin the narrative that evil Iran is provoking a war. The recent assassination of a Hamas leader in Iran was to provoke Iran into retaliation. We know it is going to be a war because Russia is sending war equipment to Iran non-stop. The election will now depend on USA winning the war to secure an election for the Left in the US. Will this backfire with Iranian sleeper cells in the US? The sleepwalking American public is none the wiser as to what is happening. The two wings of Israeli Occupation of the US are like a fight between two family clans.

  37. @anastasia

    Exactly 99% of the World population want peace, nuclear disarmament,
    prosperity and security for all, so we only have to decide what to do with
    that pesky 1%. Well, we could just round ’em up and wring their necks…

    But, this relatively small group of misfits is easy to identify. They are our
    Western political leaders and the financiers, corporate leaders, the MIC
    and the worldwide Zionist Mafia, which curiously overlaps with all of the
    aforementioned groups.

    Since only about five percent of the Jewish population already control
    so much of the wealth, why did they need a small outpost in the Mideast?
    Was it an unforced error, simply a matter of believing their mythology,
    or only locating a place for the crazy Jews to hide out?

    • Agree: John Trout
    • Replies: @Bama
    , @EL_Kabong
  38. J says:

    Iran and the Palestinian terrorist movements are recklessly menacing Israel. What do you expect? Should we sit quietly while they destroy us? Not again.

    • Replies: @mocissepvis
  39. Anynomous says:

    Video Link
    The whole world is increasingly waking up to truth and evil of american, british and some elite banking jews.

    People no longer believe fakse truths and false history spread by american and british.

    Listen to an african president reveal everything about american, british and their criminal history. Absolutely brilliant speech revealing everything. It seems american CIA and british MI6 will soon assassinate him and organize another coup in Africa.

    • Thanks: Badger Down
  40. Stewart says:

    So in my view, this is a time, you know, this is a time to, you know, to double down, to arrest Netanyahu, to send him to the Hague, to stop the flow of weapons, and to actually join our campaign, which is challenging empire.

    Empire, oligarchy, and rising fascism at home and abroad, you know, are the name of the game, and we have to stand up and fight it.
    Neoliberalism and the Democrats and the lesser evil are not the solution.

    So I encourage people, go to (((JillStein)))2024.com and join the team here to demand democracy…

    Is this satire?

  41. @WCH

    Agree. The journey from words to deeds seems to be too long, just writing doesn’t fix anything in politics…

  42. @Anonymous

    So in the war in Syria he was the enemy of Iran which backed the Assad regime. So they made up, or Iran lured him to pay him back in a false flag operation to blame Israel and US? Or they didn’t care much if Israel and US did take him out so they could blame them.

  43. @Zumbuddi

    U.S. Presidents: Criminal History of Murderous Thugs

    Nah, no U.S. President has ever been a murderous thug. None of them have ever had that kind of power. They’ve all been figurehead who’ve just carried out orders from the puppeteers who actually are murderous thugs.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  44. Tom Welsh says:
    @Ivan K.

    Although, as Karl Marx felicitously pointed out, history does repeat itself in a way: first time as tragedy, second time as farce.

    We’re seeing a lot of farce recently.

  45. @WingsofaDove

    A very elegant and reasonable comment. We have a powerful group that needs to be scrutinized by naming them specifically. Zionist Jews whether outwardly or cryptically are supporting genocidal policies and have taken over the Western centers of power in the pursuit of global hegemony.

    We must accurately name evil, clearly and reasonably—as this commenter has done—even if it means that many brainwashed people will not understand or will vilify us.

    But when naming the Jewish powers do not embody the stereotype that the Zionist Jews have convinced the masses that those who oppose them are—do not foolishly play the role of the villain they have cast for you—instead, critique them by forthrightly naming them, but do so rationally and productively as this commenter has done.

    • Thanks: Annacat
    • Replies: @Anynomous
    , @Zumbuddi
  46. Anynomous says:
    @Anonymous44

    What you are trying to say is very british/american: “We are in this fight together. We must fight our mutual enemy, the jews/Russia/China/commies/gooks/niggers together. We are in this fight together! We are fighting for western values!”.

    This is how american and british have always seeked allies and alliances, as well as virtue signalling to the top, without having to fight themself. They get others to fight for them by fooling them with word games.

    • Replies: @Anonymous44
  47. The Synagogue of Satan ✡️ and their judeo-satanist boomer lackeys need to believe stopped before humanity is destroyed.

  48. @Wayne Lusvardi

    Trump is a zionist! He hired neoconservative zionists! He hired globalists! He hired the swamp!

    No it’s not 4D chess you’re just a deranged fool.

  49. @Zumbuddi

    You’re so edgy intentionally spelling 3 letter words wrong and simping for socialist Israel while furiously flapping your micro P to Japanese cartoon porn.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @Zumbuddi
  50. Trumpeter says:

    I feel petty. I couldn’t, like, you know even read Jill Stein. I had great hope of voting for someone who opposed genocide, but like, you know I just can’t vote – you know for “that” like, you dig me?

    • Agree: Suetonious
  51. Bama says:

    When you fly anywhere in the world you run the security gauntlet today costing trillions because of 9/11. A reaction, not an initiated action against Jewish ME wars and imposed U.S. foreign policy.

    The law we live by in the U.S. is Jewish law. The financial system controlling nations is Jewish controlled and our heavy tax burden here is thanks to them also. We can thanks Jews for most of our wars.

    The oddities of racism, BLM, DEI, LGBT… infinitum are Jewish inventions.

    The cost of medicine and legal aid is because of you know who. Really, most everything we live by is due to Jewish influence or control.

  52. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sesto

    To not be able to guarantee the security of foreign-allied dignitary guests, much less your own statesman—the recent helicopter crash killing Iran’s President being a potential prime example—signals to the world that Iran really is something of a paper tiger.

    Seriously. It’s like US of A territory of incompetence security. Butler PA ring a ding ding? 🙂

    “We’re under attack by arabs with paper cutters mr. sock puppet!” “Oh no, there goes an “airplane” into the pentagram!”

    Yo, Michael Hudson, it’s called WEST ASIA, not near or middle or far or mine East. Illiterates.

  53. SteveK9 says:

    I get this far:

    … because if you can control the oil trade, you can turn off people’s electricity, their heating, and their power. And power use for workers is the root of productivity.

    and give up. Electricity is not generated from oil. If you don’t even understand something as basic as this, how can you pontificate on geopolitics, since you obviously do not understand the World.

    • Replies: @Event Horizon
    , @unzrocks
  54. Anon[224] • Disclaimer says:

    As soon as I saw Danny Haipfong I stopped reading. Names that rhyme with clown, dong, schlong and Wong mean dog dung.

    These days MSM and the YooToobe heads are like parrots. They repeat the same tired phrases over and over:
    >This one is sending a message (yet another message that the recipient shits on)
    >This is a red line (the 100th so far)
    >Breaking news (usually some additional piece of meaningless bullshit)
    >Explosive revelation (like a fart after a meal of beans and prunes)

    ………an so on.

    The atmosphere now is filled with “alternative media” which is really a bunch of blacks, east indians, gooks and breeds repeating what the others are saying.

    Do we need another fucking juvenile Asian who could not get a job at McD, telling us what the Jews are going to do, have done etc ?

    Shit, its enough to drive a fellow back to Wolfie on CNN. Bull is bull and we have just jumped from one pile (MSM) to another (the podcast and video clowns of YooBoob and Fik Fok.

    If WW3 is going to jump off I will deal with it then. In the meantime fuck Danny and Hudson and their tired trash, trite tripe and repetitive rhetoric.

    • Agree: Event Horizon
    • Troll: showmethereal
    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
  55. Jim H says:

    ‘Look at what just happened in France. How did France beat back the right wing? By standing up, by the forces on the left joining together. When Allende prevailed in Chile, you had progressive campaigns coming together so that they could prevail.’ — Dr Jill Stein

    It’s so tiresome — this infantile ‘Left good, Right bad’ mindset.

    Does Dr Stein not remember the 51 former intel agents who denounced Hunter Biden’s laptop in October 2020 as ‘probable Russian tradecraft,’ thus helping to throw the election to the more ‘progressive’ legacy party?

    Or before that, the ludicrous sham of the FBI’s Operation Crossfire Hurricane? Its fake ‘Russia, Russia, Russia’ diversion was created and disseminated, across the board, by ‘progressive’ Democrats.

    Dr Stein is fake opposition. This is why she will never receive more than a few thousand votes. Many of her ‘progressive’ fellow travelers are actually worse than neocons … although they share the same ethnicity.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  56. anonymous[224] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rush

    “…it took France just a day or two to slap an arms embargo on Israel, for attacking military hardware.”

    Because the year before in 1966 Charles de Gaulle had pulled France’s military out of NATO and NATO Hdqtrs was moved to Brussels.

  57. roonaldo says:

    Two or three times Jill Stein is called “pro-worker.” Really? She’s a “net-zero CO2 by 2030” loon and an advocate for open borders who thinks only those invaders convicted of violent crimes should be deported (but only if they’ll be “safe”).

    She wanted masks in all public places and figured employers should have the power to mandate the covid jabs. And recall her Hildebeast-endorsed 2016 election recount shenanigans that didn’t flip the election but put plenty of extra cash into Stein campaign coffers. But, hey, she’s anti-war!

    • Thanks: DanFromCT
  58. Anonymous[141] • Disclaimer says:
    @WingsofaDove

    Of course, it is the f’ing Jews – but what can we do about it? They own America. And America will spend it’s last dollar supporting Jewish supremacy, and sending its last soldier to die for the bastards. So what is to be done? We can wait until the Jewish wagon loses its wheels, but it is the Americans who will suffer.
    America needs a Jew-Last policy, but Oh!, the bitching that will stir up.

    • Agree: SteveK9
  59. I’ll be a dissident here. I think the U.S. military is more prepared than ever for total war. The troops are highly trained, perfectly supplied, motivated more than ever before. Our military is dedicated to the defense of Israel.

    Let’s get this battle started. Democracy in Ukraine must be saved. The terrorists in Gaza must be destroyed. Iran is a belligerent threat to democracy across the planet.

    We have Lloyd Austin (the black guy) leading our forces. We have Charles Brown (similarly black) leading the Air Force. We have D’quaime Jackson as the admiral of the Navy. We have Latifa Brown heading up the Marine Corp.

    It’s time the U.S. shed its history of pacifism and get in the fight. The population will be 100% behind our heroic military.

  60. Renoman says:

    It’s pretty much the USA and Israel against the World now. 99% of the other Countries have total hatred and disrespect for them both as they are clearly swine. Maybe best to get it over with and grind them to dust because as long as they live there will be nothing but blood and misery.

    • Agree: Event Horizon
  61. @Saggy

    Interesting. Thanks for sharing it. World War One seems to have been the advent of the NPC meme. In 1929, the author was surprised that so many people were mindlessly repeating the same phrase–“gotta make the world safe for democracy”. Nowadays, we accept this as normal.

  62. I call them the ” New Untouchables “!

    They are the people immune to any and all law enforcement.

    If you are a terrorist or a criminal and you are untouchable then you can do whatever you want no matter how barbaric, cruel, or massive and not care what anyone thinks because no one can do a damn thing about it.

    Biden is untouchable.

    Satanyahoo is untouchable.

    and so it goes!

  63. Chris Moore says: • Website

    Michael Hudson: I worked with Netanyahu’s advisor, Uzi Arad, for a number of years at the Hudson Institute. We made trips around the world together, arguing. And I know what their ideas and ideology are. And it really is not only apartheid, but the feeling that if Israel doesn’t kill the Palestinians, the Palestinians will kill the Israelis in retaliation for what the Israelis are doing to them. And so once you hurt the Palestinians, that makes you think very much like what America thinks with Iran.

    Yeah, it’s all one big kosher club — Judeofascists dividing up goyim spoils and blood money.

    Why was Hudson ever partnering with a Judeofascist? Because he’s on the Marxist half of the Marxist-Zionist, Judeofascist order.

    These kikes… they grift like they breath. And his old buddy is now at the locus of WW3. But hey, they’re all Judeofascists, so they’ll get together after the game for a beer, and laugh about how they grifted the dead goyim yet again… if they get away with it.

    If they don’t, they’ll get together for a beer in hell, or so they imagine.

    That’s why there’s no need to worry about a dead Judeofascist or zoglodyte, other than making it dead, as Moses did. Honestly, they won’t even care. They’ll be relieved that they can finally stop their primordial, pathological drive to mass murder, grift and plunder, and finally enter the Kingdom of Hell.

    It’ll be like the end of Sexy Beast, where Ben Kingsley is in hell, smoking a cigarette. lol. Hudson and Arad will be down there together, laughing it up.

  64. Bama says:
    @WingsofaDove

    Yes, and today Israel and globally organized Jews control or heavily influence the comings and goings of much of the world.

  65. Agent76 says:

    MAY 4, 2023 Mapping All U.S. Military Bases, in Hopes of Closing Them

    A new online database, compiled by a Gaza conflict survivor, is a critical resource for intervening in the war machine. On the few occasions when a government moves toward converting property or weapons production facilities into something useful, I can’t help but think, “What if this signals a trend, what if practical problem-solving begins to replace reckless war preparation?”

    https://progressive.org/latest/mapping-us-military-bases-kelly-040523/

    May 30, 2024 “NATO is cooking up something big” and Putin is ready for all out war

    A hot war with Russia is coming. NATO is cooking up something big right now. Russia is warning NATO that they are on to them. Putin just launched a massive attack against a NATO staging target in western Ukraine.

    Video Link

    DECEMBER 25, 2015 NATO: Seeking Russia’s Destruction Since 1949

    Baker told Gorbachev: “Look, if you remove your [300,000] troops [from east Germany] and allow unification of Germany in NATO, NATO will not expand one inch to the east.”

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/25/nato-seeking-russias-destruction-since-1949/

  66. @Cleatus Jones

    Agreed. Instead of getting the Iran war next year at the instigation of the Neo-Cons we are getting it now by the Left. Frick or Frack makes no difference.

  67. DanFromCT says:
    @Liborio Guaso

    An even curiouser “coincidence,” this from Bollyn.com

    Less than three hours after the first plane hit, Ehud Barak, the former prime minister of Israel, chief of staff, and head of military intelligence, appeared in the London studio of BBC World television and pinned the blame on Bin Laden. Although he provided no evidence to support his allegation, the Israeli military chief’s conclusion that it was time to begin a global “war against terror” soon became the accepted interpretation of 9/11.

    • Agree: Miro23
    • Thanks: 24th Alabama
  68. Zumbuddi says:
    @Cleatus Jones

    Cleatus Jones says:
    August 1, 2024 at 1:24 pm GMT • 3.2 days ago • 100 Words ↑
    @TKK
    It’s bizarre to me that you are think people working at Wal-Mart control the housing market. You must be one of those pick yur self up by da bootstraps boomer twats.

    did the McD robot spit in your Coke, Cleatus? You seem angry.

    • LOL: 24th Alabama
  69. The zionists are demons from hell, death and destruction is their method of operation and they want a world war, a nuclear war, which they believe they can survive in their deep underground military bunkers which they have throughout the ZUS and Israel and the ZEU and so a nuclear war is coming thanks to these zionist demons from hell.

    Maurice Samuel in his book, You Gentiles, page 155, said We jews , we are destroyers and nothing you can do will meet our demands or needs. We will destroy because we want a world of our own. This book can be had on amazon.

    Zionists are destroyers of nations and humanity and it is on display again in the genocide of the Palestinian people.

    • Replies: @SomeDude
  70. Jameson says:

    How can Iran still have a red line when they already want to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth?

  71. Notsofast says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    wake up sleepyhead, ww3 started almost 5 years ago, with the zioneocon covid-19 bioweapon attack on the entire world (hence the name world war). their bioweapon attack on china was kicked off at the wuhan military games, in order to pin the blame the chinese, whose labs they purposely set up as patsies, to take the fall. they then attacked iran and slowly the whole world.

    the kinetic part of the war didn’t start until they baited the russians into ukraine by targeting civilians in the donbass, but it was they, who got caught in their own bear trap and are now stuck to their own illegitimate ukranazi tarbaby hohol’s.

    old fools like you (and pcr) can’t understand that this isn’t your father’s world war, and your zioneocon’s are getting throughly thrashed in the economic war, so beautifully devised by the russians, chinese, and iranian axis of resistance, along with the koreans.

    your hero ziggy, couldn’t figure out how the horsey piece moved, let alone the grandchess board in its entirety. you are a legacy to his stupidity, along with his idiot legitimate children and you and mika should move to poland, to be with her idiot brother, currently beating the war drum. the problem with idiots, is that they can’t tell a war drum from a hornets nest. tell your polish friends, i hope they enjoy their new glacian ukranazi tarbaby brethren, that they’re now going to be stuck with.

    • Agree: Gerbils, Poupon Marx
    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
    , @Haxo Angmark
  72. Zumbuddi says:
    @Cleatus Jones

    You missed the point, Cleatus Jones.

    Seutonius got it; Saggy picked it up:

    America is the aggressor state trying to conjure up a threat.

    It seems to me it’s up to Iran to declare who and what crossed an Iranian red line.

    I thought I read that Lindsey Graham called for US Congress to vote to declare war against Iran.
    Apparently, murdering somebody in another sovereign nation is an act of aggression on the part of the nation whose sovereignty was violated.

    But even worse is the cowardice suggested by the headline: a lot of people want Israel to be forced to back down. Some want Israel punished. Some want Israel crushed.

    Nobody wants to do it, though.
    Not Erdogan.
    Not USA.
    Not Putin.
    Not China.

    Get Iran to do it.

    Iranian people are dispensable, disposable, eminently kill-able.

    The headline is the equivalent of the situation about two months ago when Biden’s negotiators, probably Wm. Burns, declared a cease fire agreement had been reached between Israel and Hamas. But Bibi and Knesset then said No.
    Burns was trying to box Israel into an agreement, but the gambit didn’t work.

    Hudson and Jill (like) Stein seem to be trying to force Iran into a war that serves their purposes.

    • Thanks: Unbornawakened
  73. @Zumbuddi

    HUH??

    I think you have that reversed, pal. Americans, brainwashed and ignorant as they are from exposure to endless Zionist propaganda, are “orgasmic” for Israel to wipe out Iran!!

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  74. @WCH

    People are lazy cowards. It’s always “yeah, after you, I’ll take up the fight.”

    Difficult to believe that this country actually fought a revolution for independence 250 years ago. Must have been an entirely different breed of people populating it back then.

  75. @J

    Israel has recklessly menaced the entire Middle East for 76 years. Iran and Hamas have had enough of it and are finally doing something about it now that Israel has grown careless in its hubris.

    • LOL: Jameson
  76. Zumbuddi says:
    @Anonymous44

    Agree, especially:

    We have a powerful group that needs to be scrutinized by naming them specifically. Zionist Jews whether outwardly or cryptically are supporting genocidal policies and have taken over the Western centers of power in the pursuit of global hegemony.

    When JFK was campaigning, he was forced to make this declaration:

    “[C]ontrary to common newspaper usage, I am not the Catholic candidate for president,” Kennedy said on live TV in his now famous address. “I am the Democratic Party’s candidate for president, who happens also to be a Catholic. I do not speak for my church on public matters, and the church does not speak for me.”

    Should a similar declaration be demanded of Candidate Jill Stein?

    But not only Stein with respect to Jewishness or zionism.

    JFK’s declaration was forced by “mainline Protestants and Evangelicals.”

    It took place in Texas where Kennedy was giving a speech to a Houston gathering of Southern Baptist clergy.
    https://www.history.com/news/jfk-catholic-president

    This wasn’t a normal campaign stop. Kennedy was Catholic . . . And for a Catholic candidate from New England, a conference of Southern Baptist ministers was considered ground zero for anti-Catholic political rhetoric and even outright bigotry.
    In the late 1950s, Catholic politicians were viewed with open suspicion by many mainline Protestants and Evangelicals.

    Recently, Mike Johnson said:

    “I’m going to state something that you all know – at this critical moment, the United States must show unwavering strength and support for Israel…We have to make certain that the entire world understands that Israel is not alone and God is going to bless the nation that blesses Israel,” Johnson said. “We understand that that’s our role. It’s also our biblical admonition. This is something that’s an article of faith for us. It also happens to be great foreign policy.”https://www.foxnews.com/politics/speaker-johnson-says-us-biblical-admonition-help-israel

    No, Mr. Johnson, it is NOT “our role” to comport US foreign policy to a half-baked “biblical admonition.”

    USA operates under a Constitution, not “articles of your faith”.

    • Replies: @John Trout
    , @DanFromCT
    , @Jim H
  77. EL_Kabong says:
    @24th Alabama

    [Using boldface is shouting and very bad behavior. Keep on shouting and all your future comments will be trashed.]

    “Since only about five percent of the Jewish population already control
    so much of the wealth, why did they need a small outpost in the Mideast?
    Was it an unforced error, simply a matter of believing their mythology,
    or only locating a place for the crazy Jews to hide out?”

    “The whole Zionist state will be nothing else than the perfect high school for their international criminals, and from there they will be directed. And every Jew will, of course, have immunity as a citizen of the Palestinian state and he will of course keep our citizenship. But when caught red-handed, he will not be a German Jew any longer but a citizen of Palestine.”

    – Adolf Hitler from the speech “Why We Are Antisemites” 1920

    https://carolynyeager.net/why-we-are-antisemites-text-adolf-hitlers-1920-speech-hofbr%C3%A4uhaus

    • Thanks: mark green
    • Replies: @xcd
  78. What a bullshit article, a long-winded snow job. Americans are told incessantly that Iran is their enemy, how is that so? Iran has never threatened the US and it is not an economic competitor. Iranians admire the US. However, just as Germany stood in the path of Bolshevik expansion and had to be destroyed, Iran stands in the path of the goal of greater isreal and has to be destroyed. Americans did not want to get into the European war of WW two, Americans were in fact sympathetic to Germany it took years of steady propaganda to get the US into the war on the side of the Bolsheviks. And, with the help of the US the Bolsheviks won the Second World War. Now Americans are told Iran is an enemy and has to be destroyed, for the Bolsheviks.

    • Thanks: 24th Alabama
    • Replies: @24th Alabama
  79. Stay out of it America. Just for once mind your own business. Let Jews do their own fighting.

  80. Zumbuddi says:
    @mocissepvis

    duh.

    Maybe I’m just being stubborn.

    “Israel just crossed . . .Iran’s Red Line” as a generalized sentiment sends a wrong message.

    Seems to me it’s up to Iranians to declare what crosses their Red line.

    Israel has assassinated young Iranian scientists; older and esteemed Iranian scientific experts; a highly regarded military and political leader; hundreds of ordinary Iranians commemorating the demise of Gen. Soleimani.
    The Iranian people might regard the murders of their own people as more egregious offenses than the murder of a visiting Palestinian (notwithstanding the offense against the Iranian sense of hospitality).

    One sense I take from the headline is, “We Americans have created a monster (in Israel). We have enabled and amplified the demonization of Iran.
    Israel has now slipped the leash and is running wild.
    We, Americans, cannot control Israel.

    So, Iran: doesn’t this cross your Red Line? Aren’t you mad enough to do something about the monster we have created?

    Recently read a novel about a young man who had been pampered all his life by his wealthy father & the lawyer father hired to protect/defend the son.
    Eventually, the lawyer couldn’t take it any more and suicided. The son, unchastened, continued his wicked ways until two more people were killed, and the White Hat in the plot became engaged in a fight-to-the-death in which the brat was killed.
    The father was apologetic. Distraught and recognizing too late the errors of his ways in raising the monster, he left his business empire and retired to seclusion in South of France.

    He paid no price. The victims of the son’s evil paid the price and finally reined in the monster.

    The headline suggests that Americans seek a similar outcome: USA wants someone else — a victim of USA demonization on behalf of a monster “son,” to once again pay the price of correcting the bad acts of the Enabler and the monster.

    • Replies: @Sarita
  81. Even as the infernal desert wars

    His orchestrated false-flag terrors

    Lit consumed naive young Western lives

    To enlarge his middle-eastern hive

    And agitate real terror in the West,

    Even as the cause of the jihadist

    Justified his surveillance apparatus

    To put in doubt every citizen’s status,

    And even as despite the dangers

    Of their incendiary angers

    His treasonous leaders opened borders

    Of Western nations to the surging hordes

    Of immigrants he set in motion…

    Curiously at first, without emotion,

    The vanguard of the new millennium

    Came to learn what had been done to them.

  82. lol, no. Nothing is going to happen.

    I’m tired of warnings and threats. I’m tired of hearing about the enormous Turkish army, the unconquerable Iranian land mass, and the carrier killing Russian and Chinese hypersonics. I want all these people to stop TALKING and DO IT. Until they DO IT, I won’t believe.

    • Agree: EL_Kabong
    • Replies: @ariadna
  83. @Zumbuddi

    This:

    God is going to bless the nation that blesses Israel,”

    is a recent insertion of the rewritten Scofield Bible. It doesn’t exist in older Bibles.

    • Replies: @Jerr
  84. @Anynomous

    I’m not really focused on Western values but more on human values…basically, the world—especially the Western world—is run primarily by psychopaths and they need to be named for what they are.

  85. @Ivan K.

    I am familiar with Japan since attending high school there in the middle sixties. Up to recent times, it has managed to shelter and defend its native and unique centuries old culture and traditions from Globalist, secular, and foreign values of mono-track materialism and the collective stupidity of Western Philosophy.

    Japan’s present course of allowing itself to be led by the JUSA, Global Financial Elites, instead of focusing toward BRICS, SCO, and the Tidal Wave of the Global South, the country’s social fabric, values, and uniqueness are being destroyed steadily. These conditions in the modern age have originated and generated by Global Financial Elites, aka GloboHomo, International Kosher Nosetra, etc, etc. It’s as if the color of an intricate fabric is being bleached out into a fading hue toward white generic. They have lost their way.

    This is the danger of the modern world, fading into black, i.e., nihilism, total negation, or white, a homogeneous blend of no distinction, uniqueness, or character or distinguishing characteristics.

    Of course, the entire West is well advanced along this path. And only division of present countries of like minded, homogeneous citizens of the same convictions offer any salvation. The “nation-state” and the mega corporatization-internationization of all businesses must be destroyed.

  86. @Cleatus Jones

    Yours and others’ simplistic comments are reminiscent of disease theory before Pasteur and Leuwenhoek, i.e, microscopic pathogens and organisms unseen by the naked eye. Your high school-middle school opinions are a waste of real estate here.

  87. Israel isn’t crazy, it’s just MAD by Daniel Nammour & Sharmine Narwani

    https://thecradle.co/articles/israel-isnt-crazy-its-just-mad

    Since before its inception, Israel has very deliberately, very rationally pursued a ‘MAD strategy’ toward its foes and allies alike, training them to accept its bad behavior at all times.

    Within the course of a few hours, Israel managed to strike at three Resistance Axis members: Lebanon, Palestine, and Iran. In doing so, Tel Aviv violated a whole slew of international laws, diplomatic conventions, and customary practices that prohibit political assassinations while glaringly violating the territorial integrity of two UN member states.

    Since its war on Gaza, Israel has rapidly gained global pariah status, not just because of its live-streamed genocide that has killed at least 39,000 Palestinian civilians – over 16,000 of them children – but also because of the unprecedented rulings and deliberations still underway at the International Criminal Court (ICC) and the International Court of Justice (ICJ) over Israel’s war crimes.

    Creating a threatening presence by having an aggressive reputation with the touch of madness will prevent your enemies from attacking you. They would not attack a person who takes his enemy with him if he falls.

    This is the essence of Israel’s strategy with friends and foes alike, and once understood, it is hard to unsee these tactics in all the state’s dealings.

    Today, Israel employs the full spectrum of its MAD strategy in its attacks on Palestinians in Gaza and across the West Bank – rape, murder, amputations, beheadings, torture – with impunity. Allies, foes, and global populations are expected to accept the images and data and be ready for even worse scenarios.

    It is untrue that Tel Aviv acts irrationally. Implementing the MAD strategy is a rational decision for a small entity that needs to impose its oversized will on not only its neighbors but on global powers and international institutions, too.

    Yemen’s naval blockade: In response to Israel’s brutal military assault on Gaza, Yemen’s armed forces launched a sustained campaign to halt the transit of all Israel-bound and -linked shipping in Asian waterways. Given that Israel obtains over 80 percent of its imports via sea, the Yemeni operations have delivered a gut blow to Israel’s economy, disabled its vital Eilat Port entirely, and driven up insurance costs for Israel.

    In short, Israel’s MAD strategy can be defeated by friends or foes alike. One has to stare MAD in the face, hunker down, and fight back. The more Israel is countered, the more crazy it looks.

    • Agree: xcd
  88. @mocissepvis

    Nah, no U.S. President has ever been a murderous thug.

    Seriously? In that case then neither were the Manson family “murderous thug(s).” By your “reasoning” they were unjustly imprisoned, right? And what about the IDF troops who’re mass murdering Palestinian civilians, apparently as per their government’s policy; do they bear any moral responsibility for the people they kill?

    • Replies: @mocissepvis
  89. @Jim H

    Jill Stein is an idealist/fantasist who uses a phantom sense of Jewish idealism and phone altruism to lay down cover for her imbecilic, abstract, groundless, and sandcastles-in-the-air opinions. She’s the worse kind of yenta. She no doubt harbors deep sympathy and consonance with Green Parties everywhere.

  90. Anon[224] • Disclaimer says:
    @bike-anarkist

    FU:CK:YU !

    KI:KE ANAL:KISS

    LO: L

  91. Israel is Sodom

    • Replies: @Jim H
  92. @Mr Chow Mein

    How about Russia and China going after the US, they are more or less the same size. Why ask a much smaller player to commit suicide for these two giants if they are not themselves willing to take on the 500 pound gorilla.

    Everyone wants Iran to do their dirty work, including armchair warrior on this site. Erdogan encouraged Iran to go after Israel, assuring Iran that Turkey will follow. Would you trust Erdogan to stick to his word?

    As long as the ones having the most stake in the Arab Israeli conflict, namely the Arab states, are not willing to lift a finger and are actively supporting Israel behind the scene, Iran should do absolutely nothing to endanger its citizens and infrastructure.

    • Replies: @Event Horizon
  93. The American deep state and MSM for Israel first.

  94. Jerr says:
    @John Trout

    Where was this inserted into the Scofield Bible? Book, Chapter, Verse?

    • Replies: @Jameson
    , @Zumbuddi
  95. @Cloud Posternuke

    Furthermore, there are countless growing and blooming Sunni states around Israel and many parts of the world with hundreds of millions of inhabitants. Palestine is primarily their responsibility and they don’t do jack shit.

    Well said. I don’t know why the Shiites are committing suicide on behalf of Sunnis. Do you?

  96. @Mr Chow Mein

    Oh man, I agree with you 110%.
    What’s wrong with the Germans and also the Japanese?? I have been told that Olaf Schulz is a compromised individual and I think this is true.
    America and UK gave an epic national sized industrial enema to the German nation via the Russian gas pipeline and they didn’t even squeal while suffering. So noble.
    Most Japanese too have something up their political fundament and the killing of Shinzo Abe was done to re-enforce this.
    Brave Nations have been brought to their knees by the zionists.

  97. SomeDude says:
    @Desert Fox

    Maurice Samuel in his book, You Gentiles, page 155, said We jews , we are destroyers and nothing you can do will meet our demands or needs. We will destroy because we want a world of our own. This book can be had on amazon.

    Christ, another retarded TUR commenter. This place truly is a bottomless pit of stupidity.

    So one dumb jew wrote a book, and now he somehow speaks for the jews?

    Give me five minutes and I’ll come up with a white author who claims the whites are such filthy depraved pedophiles that they actually created an entire religion to facilitate and cover up the ass-fucking of young boys.

    Oh, wait…

  98. ariadna says:
    @John Q Public

    You may not have to wait long now

    • Replies: @ariadna
  99. @Harold Smith

    Re-reading my response, it appears that I didn’t make myself as clear as I should have. The implication of the OP, as I read into it, was that U.S. presidents have been “murderous thugs” in the mould of Stalin, Mao, Idi Amin, or Pol Pot (to name just a few), dictators who had actual autonomous power to implement their own murderous thuggery, as opposed to that designed and mandated by others (as is the case with U.S. presidents).

    So yes, you are correct in pointing out that America’s puppet figureheads are scumbag thugs and murderers just like their handlers. They’re merely a “lower level” of such. Think of them as mafia “soldiers” carrying out the murderous orders of their capiregime (unseen, shadowy figures in this case).

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  100. ariadna says:
    @ariadna

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  101. @Notsofast

    Et tu, Switzerland? When I say Western culture and existence is rotten to the core, I mean that previously thought of areas and people remaining grounded and moral are failing and fall over, swept away by fear, bribery, betrayal of their people, etc, etc. Made into whores by Talmudic Termites and their Shabbos.

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-03-15-switzerland-seize-russian-frozen-assets-war-reparations-ukraine.html

    https://4w.pub/switzerland-minors-sex-change-operations/

    Ariadna says only separation from Jews can save or serve to preserve the right minded Western Whites. I agree. That means either create a new autonomous, specified republic or get out and move to another country. Start with Russia and then consider the Global South.

  102. Mr.Turtle says:
    @WingsofaDove

    Absolutely true! A key concept in the article is the ideology of “full spectrum dominance.” It sounds very close to Talmudic concepts of all Gentiles on Earth being there to serve Hebrew, “The Chosen People,” interests. It’s also similar to the ever popular, true or fictional…it does not really matter, “Protocols of the Elders of Zion.” It’s a Zionist often Jewish (just look at who fills key roles in our presidential administrations, Congress and Senate) financial choke hold of our political processes, media and finances. This is the true issue avoided in the interview. Thanks for mentioning this point and the book which shows how long this subterfuge has been going on.

    • Agree: A B Coreopsis
  103. @John Trout

    In typical Jewish fashion, Israel is determined to pay back Iran for the
    kindness shown to them by Cyrus the Great when he freed them from
    the Babylonian Captivity in 539 BC:

    “You cannot be nice to these people.”
    But, fools keep trying.
    It’s our turn.

    • Replies: @Jameson
  104. DanFromCT says:
    @Zumbuddi

    By straightforward implication Mike Johnson is claiming that God will bless those who provide unlimited munitions so Israel can commit genocide in Gaza and the West Bank and curse those who oppose it.

    A man like Johnson who calls the man who stole our nuclear triggers and was no doubt a chief architect of 9/11 “Your Excellency” can likewise call the massacre of tens of thousands of defenseless civilians “self-defense” and it won’t change the nature of Israel’s crimes one iota.

    It’s also the case that Israel is the invading force and brutal occupier of Palestinian lands, giving the Palestinians every right under international law to fight back and drive the occupier out. The Palestinians, furthermore, have no obligation to obey any laws or directives issued by the Israelis. How the members of Congress get around this most elementary fact of the conflict defies explanation. It’s more than the usual bribery or Mossad blackmail and threats, and comes down to moral cowardice so great they’ll let children be blown to pieces rather than do what is right. By their fruit you shall know them, leaving them Christian only in the sense Judas was one of the apostles.

  105. @Notsofast

    “this isn’t your father’s world war”

    it isn’t any kind of war at all. Because a war requires 2 sides. And in the present “conflict” Izramerica is kicking Muslim ass…..

    while the Muslim “axis of resistence” ….

    continues to not resist.

    Ukraine? Russian “victory” in Ukraine has been “any day now” for going on 3 years. And now that Babyface Tsar has discovered that most of his crooked Generals have been skimming trillions of rubles along the way, I doubt if Russia will ever win…..unless Babyface purges himself too.

    • Thanks: Event Horizon
    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
    , @Notsofast
  106. Jameson says:
    @Jerr

    The verse is Numbers 24:9, there is no commentary on the verse in the Scofield Reference, but The Scofield Bible is based on the 1611 Authorized Version of the King James Bible which includes the verse as

    9 He couched, he lay down as a lion, and as a great lion: who shall stir him up? Blessed is he that blesseth thee, and cursed is he that curseth thee.

    • Replies: @ranjit
  107. Jameson says:
    @24th Alabama

    They weren’t Muslim back then! Their weak and pathetic nation was conquered and subjugated by Islam in the 7th century, their temples ransacked, women raped, society turned upside down. And now they bow down to their new master, all these centuries later. Cyrus the Great would have cut Muhammad and his filthy army into pieces and fed them to the animals.

    • Agree: Annonydog
    • Replies: @Unbornawakened
  108. anon[517] • Disclaimer says:

    The last one hundred years have been the actions of a late great republic. End the fed, bring all of the troops home, reinvigorate arms control treaties with candor and good will and extirpate all vestiges of marxism from the media and academia…with extreme prejudice. As an aside, does Jill have to start every sentence with “you know”? Otherwise very good article.

  109. Usually, I like what Michael Hudson has to say but it seems like the same old story. We’re are bad and the world is good. Israel bad Palestinians good. America bad China good. And as to the nut job Jill Stein what is going to gain by running for the president of the United States… same as that buffoon Cornell West… nothing.

    • Replies: @Suetonious
    , @DanFromCT
  110. I support Dr Stein’s views about Palestine and Israel.

    Unfortunately, Stein fails to understand the crisis on the southern US border. Her solution won’t solve anything. The US has lost control of the border – which is now controlled by drug cartels and human traffickers.

    To regain control of our own border, it will have to be closed — at least for a time.

    When I say closed I mean CLOSED!

  111. Zumbuddi says:
    @Jerr

    What you are saying is that in addition to being a deluded Christo-zio nutcase, Johnson is a stupid fool.

    By what measure is the USA in a “blessed” state?

    • Agree: John Trout
    • Replies: @Event Horizon
  112. Hegar says:

    “America is fighting for control of the Near East because the Near East controls the oil.”

    Bullshit. The “anti-war” leftists are always lying. They exploit opposition to Israel to attack “capitalist Whites.” Of course the Jew Jill Stein likes that.

    All the Gulf states were simply happy to sell oil to the U.S. And Saddam Hussein was a hardcore U.S. ally who invaded Iran on Washington’s behalf, with U.S. weapons and money. But he was overthrown because he supported the Palestinians. And when Iraq was destroyed, how easy was it to get oil out of there? And how high was the cost for the U.S.?

    There is no oil in Palestine. How curious that they always “forget” that. The U.S. pays for Israel every year and hands it military secrets. This is only a COST, not a benefit. Supporting the Palestinian genocide ALIENATES OIL PRODUCERS.

    If the U.S. was only motivated by wanting oil, why would it sanction Iran and Syria? It’s laughable. But the socialists are too dumb to think of that.

    If the U.S. only wanted oil, it would OPPOSE Israel, which would win friends all over the Persian Gulf.

    There used to be “Arabists” in the State Department and the Pentagon. These argued that after the British and French empires, the U.S. should simply do business with whatever Arab rulers were in charge. Simply trade and have peace. These were opposed by the neocons, who had media backing. The Arabists still existed until Bush took over, and around that time their thinking was eliminated.

    The Arabists were the “for oil” people. And they were for peace. Neocons care nothing about the cost for Whites.

    as Goebbels said, you can always get a population on your side if you say it’s for defense.

    Also bullshit, it was Hermann Göring who said that. Socialists are always ignorant. Otherwise they wouldn’t be socialists.

    • Agree: John Trout
    • Thanks: mark green
    • Replies: @Jim H
  113. @mocissepvis

    So yes, you are correct in pointing out that America’s puppet figureheads are scumbag thugs and murderers just like their handlers. They’re merely a “lower level” of such. Think of them as mafia “soldiers” carrying out the murderous orders of their capiregime (unseen, shadowy figures in this case).

    Okay thanks for clarifying that. I would point out though, that in a sense, order followers can often be justifiably deemed to be more evil and morally culpable than the person above them in the chain of command. I would put many if not most U.S. presidents in this category because they often lie to get elected and then knowingly, willingly and enthusiastically betray their country using the power of their office to do the Satanic dirty work of their handlers.

    • Agree: mocissepvis
  114. @Jameson

    And now they bow down to their new master, all these centuries later. Cyrus the Great would have cut Muhammad and his filthy army into pieces and fed them to the animals.

    And all these centuries and millennia later, the Hebrew kings celebrated in the Torah would have cut Israel its Europeanized claimants and their army into pieces and fed them to animals for having massacred the Hebrew descendants (aka Palestinians).

    A bunch of Khazar and East European converts who have nothing to do with the original Hebrews are genociding the descendants of the Hebrews.

    The descendants of Cyrus are helping the original Hebrews to reclaim their land from Europeans invaders.

    There you go, all corrected for you!

    • Disagree: Jameson
    • Replies: @24th Alabama
  115. Putz says:

    Maybe that wouldn’t be a bad idea. Cuz right now we are stuck under the armpits of commercial IT programming and it is a huge pain in the ass. If you wish to say anything.

    • Replies: @Putz
  116. Which brings us to the next presidential mock elections. The morons will either vote for Zionist puppet Trump or Zionist puppet Harris.

    What if RFK Jr. who is the only rel anti-establishment candidate stopped once and for all to suicide himself by supporting the killers of his uncle and father (the Zionists/Israel) and decided to denounce them and take side with the victims (Palestinians)?

    What would happen?

    He will lose Jewish/Zionist funding
    Take the risk of them trying to kill him
    BUT
    He will win all the young voters from both sides (the republicrat unique party)
    And he could win the presidency.

    At 70, isn’t that a risk worth to take?

  117. Putz says:
    @Putz

    Btw, the internet didn’t evolve. It devolved, maybe a century or so back to when your average joe had no control over the tripe we were served back then. As truth.

    • Replies: @Putz
  118. @Aleatorius

    Israel bad Palestinians good. America bad China good.

    Yes, even if it has been said before, it deserves repeating. Thanks, Aleatorius.

  119. Putz says:
    @Putz

    What if i went to a restaurant and ordered ham and eggs with fresh tomatoes on the side and the waitress said, well that is not on the menu. You can have beans and weiners because that is all we are serving here.
    Not her fault, cuz she is working to make ends meet.

  120. @SteveK9

    Agree.

    The situation you describe has become commonplace. Before I gave up on X/Twitter I saw endless numbers of blue check “experts” spewing rivers of incomprehensible nonsense to the mindless cheers of hundreds of thousands of followers, all of whom clapped and barked like trained seals.

    How these people sell their books and get interviews like this over and over, I will never understand.

    • Replies: @xcd
  121. DanFromCT says:
    @Aleatorius

    I’m sure you’re not trying to defend the genocide, but it sounds like it when you say, “Israel bad Palestinians good.” There is no moral reason nor logical need to prove that Palestinians are good to argue the Israelis are committing the worst crimes against humanity since their Bolshevik forefathers butchered tens of millions of Slavs in Russia and the Ukraine only a century ago. Israel’s heinous crimes speak for themselves, while attempts at mitigation dependent on whether Palestinians are good is despicable. That’s why I think you simply didn’t think this through. After all, it is the Israelis who are the hostile invaders and occupiers of another’s land, and it is the Israelis for whom there is no permissible argument in their favor.

    • Agree: ld
    • Replies: @Aleatorius
  122. Its been reported that Russia has halted arm shipments that were to be sent to the Houthis due to pressure by Saudis and U.S?

    If this is so then Putin has done a disservice to his soldiers fighting in Ukraine by not opening another front on the U.S to draw resources away…then we read reports of more strikes on Crimea and Belgarod region by U.S missles and the first F16 deliverys to Ukraine.

    Sometimes I wonder who side Putin is on?

    F#ck Saudi concerns they will stab Russia in the back the moment it suits them…how have the Saudis helped Gaza? By hosting Americans?

  123. @Haxo Angmark

    Purge yourself. Your eyeballs are turning brown. Low class, low IQ Ukie or Jewkie jerky. Impression: poorly educated, local yokel with teeth missing.

  124. vinteuil says:

    Michael Hudson & Jill Stein are both hopeless shitlibs.

    They’re the sort of shitlibs who side with the Muslims against the Jews instead of the Jews against the Muslims – but they’re both anti-white haters, salivating for the great replacement.

  125. Notsofast says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    yeah and your pentagram boys, have been skimming trillions of dollars for decades and they get promoted for it. the last attempt to find some of the missing trillions ended up with missile, err ahh, i mean a hyjacked airliner hitting their office on 9/11, muslim terrorists with box cutters don’t you know. roll over and go back to sleep, grandpa simpson, zzzzzzzzzzz…..

    • Agree: JR Foley
    • Replies: @JR Foley
  126. Nadim says:

    A REAL HOLOCAUST in occupied Palestine is carried out by the GENOCIDAL Zionist JEWS. Thousands of babies were burn into ashes in front of their mothers’ eyes.

    Death to ICC, Death to the criminal West.

    DEATH to ISRAEL, DEATH to Jewish Mafia Tribe. Death to genocidal Biden, Death to evil empire.
    Biden is not getting tough with Netanyahu, Biden is complicit in Genocide where both should be arrested and executed as war criminals. Biden should stop arming and funding a genocidal regime not to go after Iran not to retaliate. Iran must retaliate HARD.
    Here we go again. Scrambling to prevent total war by pressing Iran not to retaliate.

  127. anon[172] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    So in the future – the USA and other Western nations have crumbled thanks to Jews guiding it’s destruction with mass immigration and cultural destruction [trans, demonizing whites] – and your idea would be for a break away state to be ran by Jewish Jill Stein. That’s like foxes invading the hen house and the hens get away to safety, then they welcome in the foxes again.

  128. Jim H says:
    @Zumbuddi

    Here’s a counterfactual we can only dream of:

    In the mid 2020s, Jewish politicians were viewed with open suspicion by many mainline Protestants and Evangelicals.

    After the atrocities that have occurred in Gaza since 7 Oct 2023, why is this not so?

    WTF happened to the US as a defender of human rights? Wheezing 99-year-old Jimmy Carter — author of the Oslo ‘peace deal’, and a veteran human rights campaigner — has nothing to say about this, although he allows that he’s struggling to live long enough to cast his vote for Kabala-mala, as a tottering aspirational 100-year-old.

    Contemplate the empty, situational ethics of the Jewish-dominated Left. It is to stare into a dark, nihilistic abyss. Got Talmud?

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  129. Notsofast says:
    @ariadna

    s-400’s perhaps, or even s-500’s? it would be a perfect field test for them, to see their performance against f-35’s.

  130. Jim H says:
    @Priss Factor

    ‘Two Palestinian hostages the Israelis gang raped died of their wounds. May they rest in peace and may those who murdered them be held accountable for what they did and may the Congress of the United States repent for their complicity in Israeli crimes.’ — quoted by Priss Factor

    This is not part of the news feed of 535 callous, venal Congress Clowns.

    They funded this atrocity to the tune of $26 billion of supplemental aid in April 2024. But they don’t want to know the sordid, ‘wet work’ details. They stay aloof from the ugly ‘blood on the operating table’ consequences of their vast crimes.

    I saw a Congress Clown drinking a Superman 2 at the Silver Lyan
    His hair was perfect

    Ah hoooooo, werewolves of Washington
    HEY DRAW BLOOD
    Ah hoooooo, werewolves of Washington

    — Warren Zevon, Werewolves of London

  131. I’m so sick of this “the arab/Persian tiger is waiting to strike” bull plop. They are a degenerate, inbred, low IQ race. Anything relevant they had to say they said 1000 years ago in the time of Omar Khayyam. They are not a threat to the West, even the pathetic clown west of today. Wipe them off the face of the earth, keep the Jews in the middle east and out of the west. Problem solved.

    • Agree: Jameson
  132. Jim H says:
    @Hegar

    ‘There used to be “Arabists” in the State Department and the Pentagon. These argued that after the British and French empires, the U.S. should simply do business with whatever Arab rulers were in charge. Simply trade and have peace. These were opposed by the neocons, who had media backing. The Arabists still existed until Bush took over, and around that time their thinking was eliminated.’ — Hagar

    Precisely.

    But now we have Doctors Jill Stein and Michael Hudson, telling us counterfactually that it’s still all about the oil and the Israeli aircraft carrier.

    Whose side are they actually on? Inquiring minds want to know.

    • Agree: lastwhiteman
  133. Jameson says:
    @lastwhiteman

    Just for fun some time, look up the number of Nobel Prizes won by Christians and Jews vs. Muslims.

    You can count on your fingers the number won by Muslims and one of them went to the vile terrorist Yassir Arafat!

    They wouldn’t be able to get the oil out of the ground without the infidel’s help.

    • Agree: lastwhiteman
    • Troll: showmethereal
  134. @Unbornawakened

    I must imagine you’ll garner some rather negative responses to what you’re written here, but your viewpoint is very wise.

    Russia is nowhere near being the anti-Washington, “anti-globohomo” force that its passionate supporters sincerely believe that it is …

    • Replies: @Unbornawakened
  135. @Zumbuddi

    EXACTLY!

    FINALLY someone pointed out the obvious.

  136. Sarita says:
    @Zumbuddi

    I ain’t reading all that shit.

  137. anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @lastwhiteman

    {{{I’m so sick of this “the arab/Persian tiger is waiting to strike” bull plop. They are a degenerate, inbred, low IQ race.}}}

    Shut up racist genocidal stupid. The problem is solved when your dog, Israel, and its creator the evil empires are all burned down and kicked out of the West Asia. The problem is solved when you are pushed out of every single continent including America. You are nothing but petty thieves, terrorists, rapists and genocidal. The one who should be massacred is you and your dog. Why don’t you fuck off from the region. The reason behind your presence in every single continent is that you cannot feed yourself and you have always lived on stolen land. America and Israel are stolen land where the indigenous population are determined to kick you out of their land. You have to go to where you came from. Remember? You don’t belong to our region. You are a criminal colonist who used to live around Black Sea. It is you where should FUCK off.

    • Replies: @lastwhiteman
  138. JR Foley says:
    @Notsofast

    Marvin Bush was in charge of security at the World Trade Centre and the fire chief stated:”We decided t pull it” Building 7 –now if 7 was pulled how about 1 and 2? Then again why did BBC announce Building 7 collapsing 45 minutes prior to it falling and that ID on the smoldering remains next morning –an intact id- not burnt??

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  139. anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jameson

    {{Just for fun some time, look up the number of Nobel Prizes won by Christians and Jews vs. Muslims.}}

    You stupid and racist Jew, must know, there are so many criminals and terrorist Jews have been offered FAKE ‘piece prize’ to make them famous. You just give yourselves awards not to be forgotten. Your history is full of RAPE, theft, terrorism, assassination, human trafficking, sex trafficking, diamond trafficking, organ trafficking, child trafficking and more, idiot.
    Your technology either have been stolen from other countries, or has given to you by France, Germany, or United States where the FOREIGNERS are the real designers.

  140. @SomeDude

    Dear Scum Dude:

    Excessively rimbunctious activity has apparently permeated
    through to your prefrontal abscess, a much more serious
    medical situation than the usual canker sores on your
    tippy- tongue. This has created a medical crisis throughout
    the Rabbinic community.

    Please inform your cash customers and your subscription
    clientele of your condition, and go immediately
    to the treatment center in Crown Heights.

    S/ Hymie Gooberschlott, MD

    • Agree: John Trout
  141. anonymous[120] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    This would make a great show for Haiphong.. Interview those Muslim/Arab nations that constantly claim to support Palestine and oppose Genocide, and yet they keep normal relations with Israel open commerce, open sea/air/maritime spaces for USA/Israeli indiscriminate bombings of civilians Palestinians. Take Turkey and all Erdogans bs, and he dares NOT to cut OIL/Gas supply for israel. As shocking as it sounds…Jordan, Egypt,Saudi Arabia.Qatar, UAE all have pledge support for ISRAEL in their wars against Iran/Lebanon/Hamas…so pathetic..WE never hear the official Hamas/Hezbollah/Lebanon analysis..??

  142. @Unbornawakened

    After 2500 years Cyrus and his family must have
    millions of Iranian descendants, which might
    explain why this Indo-European Nation has an
    abundance of brilliant individuals. Israel’s fear
    of them is understandable.

    • Agree: John Trout
  143. TumpSux says:

    Sone us still love the ideas of George W. Bush and the Jews and international banks. We stand 100% with Israel.

  144. Vladimir says:
    @Jameson

    {They wouldn’t be able to get the oil out of the ground without the infidel’s help.}

    You the racist should know, when the people kick you out and are not controlled by rapists and thieves like you, have been able to create technology that you are willing to kill for that technology. How many years have you tried to stop other countries not to making their own nuclear technology and were not successful? You the racist jews are not even able ‘to defend yourself’. You always with deception and tricks have forced your creator, MASTER, into the war on your behalf.. This is your war and you must fight it ALONE not calling your sugar daddy, Biden, and other pimps in UK, France, Germany, Saudi Arabia, Jordan to come and SAVE you.
    Iran has to face United states, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, UK, Germany, France at the same time. You racist Zionists are so stupid not have achieved a damn thing. Your signature is genocide, blackmail, terrorism, sabotage, assassination, assassination and more. This is not achievement, that’s why you are showered with FAKE ‘noble’. This is barbarism where should be destroyed and you will be destroyed. Then we collect all the FAKE ‘noble prizes’ and throw them in the TOILET and flush it. ‘noble’ is piece of shit designed for the assassins, terrorists and rapists, and is giving to the members of the mafia club. Good luck.

  145. Wokechoke says:
    @Jameson

    Of course the prize is paid out of a fortune made on explosives.

    • Agree: Holy Catholic
    • Replies: @Jameson
  146. @Zumbuddi

    The world watches the barbarians at work and play in US. We are fed up with US coming and telling us what to do.

  147. PrgB says:
    @WingsofaDove

    Could it be that Ms. Stein doesn’t want to offend potential voters? Or get arrested?

  148. Isadore says:
    @Jameson

    Muslims have made profound contributions to human civilization, ignoramus. Get a clue.

    • LOL: Jameson
    • Replies: @Anonymous 1
    , @Annonydog
  149. MT says:

    The person’s script continually using the words, “you know”, made it difficult to comprehend why such “you know” was presented continually and someone needs to have a little face to face discussion directing the discontinuance of those words as they do nothing to enhance, describe or any other feature relating to the topics presented. Very irritating. Someone tell that person to stop it – it’s almost embarrassing.

    deaths, but it’s likely way more than that, far more as indicated by the report from the Lancet Journal, you know, two or three weeks ago, that a total of some 40,000 deaths is probably more like approaching 200,000 deaths, actually, considering, you know, how the numbers are counted and not counted.
    And among them, you know, are all these child-directed assaults, you know, on soccer fields, on schools, you know, on refugee centers. It’s just shocking and horrific what’s going on. And in the middle of that, the U.S. rewards Israel with another $18 billion worth of these F-15 fighter jets. So the U.S. has blood all over its hands, not just on its hands, but, you know, on its face, you know, from head to toe, basically

    • Replies: @24th Alabama
    , @xcd
  150. @Event Horizon

    However, Israel must be taught a lesson it will not forget, by whatever means necessary, in order for it to stop its terrorist attack on Iranian soil or elsewhere on Iranian citizens. That’s what any country would do to deter further terrorist acts. If Iran had been the US, a much more effective measure would have been to place sanctions on Israel, like the US does to Iran, but that option is not available. The attack has to kill scores of Israelis and/or damage vital infrastructure, military or governmental targets preferably, for deterrence.

    There is a small risk that this will lead to regional war, but given that assassinations have been left unanswered for more than a decade, it is about time to take action, mindful of the risks. Scores of Iranian scientists and generals have been assassinated by Israel. Retribution is deserved.

    Israel and the US are not ready to start a major war in the region, because if they hit Iran back Iran has a lot of targets at its disposal. A blowback on Israel could end its existence as we know it.

    Once the deterrence is achieved, hopefully with no major escalation, Israel will be forced to stop attacking Iranian soil or Iranian citizens abroad.

    The burden of fighting Israel to reconquer Palestinian lands falls on Arab armies. If they would rather lose that land (Gaza West Bank Golan) to Israel, it is their choice to make.

    IMO, Iran should help all courageous Arab actors who are willing to make sacrifices to reclaim Palestine, whether Sunni or Shia. But if they decide that they cannot win against Israel and continuing the fight would harm their civilians immeasurably, it should be their decision to make.

    I think these principles would apply to any country that does not want to get directly in war, because it has no territorial claim of its own, but is willing to help those who want to reclaim their land stolen by the Khazarian invaders. And if they decide to make peace and cede the land to the Khazarian, Iran should respect their decision too.

    The main point here is it does not make sense for Iranians, who have been massacred by Arabs during the Iran Iraq war, to die for an Arab cause.

    But given the way Israel and US are behaving toward Iran, Iran has no choice but to full back the resistance toward Israeli and US hegemonic plans in the region.

    • Agree: John Trout
    • Thanks: Event Horizon
  151. @SomeDude

    “…So one dumb jew wrote a book, and now he somehow speaks for the jews..?”

    He is not an isolated case. Such Jewish destructive-supremacist ideas can be found in the Old Testament, the Talmud, other Jewish scriptures and pronouncements by rabbis and secular Jews. Besides, the behavior of Jews throughout their 3000 years history exemplifies their ideas.

    “We Jews are destroyers”. Yes indeed, look at Gaza:

    • Replies: @Jameson
  152. @anonymous

    As I read the unique dialect of broken moron dune kewn English, I can smell the Arab shit breath through my computer screen. Your bath time must be at midmonth, because you’re getting a bit ripe. Read a book (or try) and do something about those pesky fleas. I will pray for you.

    • LOL: Eric135
    • Replies: @anonymous
  153. DavidC says:

    You know, I got really, you know, irritated by, you know, the number of ‘You knows’, you know?

    DavidC

    • Agree: Eric135
  154. @Wayne Lusvardi

    More likely the Iranian sleeper cells in the USA are Mossad agents ready to do mass casualty false flag events in the USA that the ZOG MSM will blame on Iran.

    • Agree: A B Coreopsis
  155. Eric135 says:

    I like most of what Jill (((Stein))) says, but did this Harvard-educated woman really have to say “you know” 131 times, including four times in one brief sentence?

  156. Jameson says:
    @Wokechoke

    You don’t explain if you think that is good or bad, but I suspect you think that is somehow bad. Explosives made routes through mountains, tunnels, mining, all possible. You sound like a crybaby liberal woman upset about explosives hwurting someone boo hoo hoo.

  157. anonymous[108] • Disclaimer says:
    @lastwhiteman

    Read a book (or try) and do something

    You the zionist racist need a book to stop your fucking genocide. You are the enemy of humanity and your criminal life on earth is going to end, idiot. Get lost from the stolen land of Palestine now.

    • Agree: John Trout
    • Replies: @Jameson
    , @lastwhiteman
  158. @DanFromCT

    Since the founding of Israel, it should have been clear to the Arabs that the Jews want them out and also by the inaction of the world to assist them, they should have known that nothing was going to help them stay in Israel and yet they linger on to be atrophied slowly as it’s happening.

  159. Jameson says:
    @anonymous

    You could always try an audiobook. Not sure if Mein Kampf is available in that format.

    • Agree: lastwhiteman
  160. @Chris Moore

    Your work via your comments here, plus the content of your website are cherished in large part due to your Catholic perspective, being that of The Church founded by Divine Jesus. So please be patient with what might seem to be trivial nitpicking, but you clearly understand the importance of precise communication and the need to avoid acquiescence to the terminology of The Devil’s Children as Divine Jesus refers to them at John 8:44. Plus, the desire to avoid sounding like kike-puppet Bush 2 should motivate any clear thinker (“Islamo-fascist”).

    Three years ago Mefobills

    unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Mefobills

    on an article where the two of you had extensive cooperative exchange posted a sentence in this comment

    unz.com/jcook/what-happened-to-glenn-greenwald/#comment-4742584

    which is precious and true:

    Nobody on this thread is using the word “Fascism” correctly.

    “Fascism” is the cooperative effort of a kinship nation of people to protect their homeland and their kin from predation by The International Jew. So it is a good and honorable effort akin to that of Divine Jesus and his Divinely inspired disciple Paul who called the Jews who rejected Jesus “the killers of Christ and the predators upon humanity” in reference to JewU$ury.

    So “fascist” and “fascism” are terms descriptive of good and honorable cooperative efforts to defend against the instinctive concert of diabolical Jews.

    A dim-witted US President used the phrase “Islamo-fascists” to cement into 21st Century thinking the idea “fascism” is bad, just as Jew Hollywood did in the second half of the prior century.

    Michael Hudson in his most-important-since-the-New-Testament volumes

    …and forgive them their debts… and The Collapse of Antiquity

    makes clear that JewU$ury is what Jesus came down here to end and that the Church he founded understood this until treachery during the installation of that Church as the official doctrine of the Roman Empire, including (actually foremost) by Augustine of Hippo, is where the world has been offtrack in inability to expunge exploitation by JewU$urers to this day.

    Michael Hudson points out that “tyrants” were leaders who sought to protect their people from JewU$urers, and as a result, the Jews ultimately gave the word “tyrant” a negative connotation as they have now obviously done with the 20th century term “fascist”.

    Please consider modifying your nomenclature.

    Yours in Christ Jesus of the Holy Catholic Church.

    p.s. Michael Hudson is heroic and necessary to understanding JewU$ury as the problem as Mefobills explains extensively in his comment history here, which I implore you to read and heed.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  161. Han says:
    @SomeDude

    SomeDude,

    Maurice Samuel in his book, You Gentiles, page 155, said We jews , we are destroyers

    Israeli Journalist Shimon Riklin shows his true colors LIVE on air: “I am for war crimes, I don’t care if I’m criticised, I am unable to sleep without watching homes in Gaza being destroyed, more houses, more buildings, I don’t want them to have anything to go back to”

    Maurice Samuel was right, wasn’t he, ShlomoDude ?

    Oh, wait…., are you the retarded TUR commenter, the bottomless pit of stupidity ?

  162. Michael Hudson’s two landmark volumes

    …and forgive them their debts… and The Collapse of Antiquity

    make clear JewU$ury is the world’s foremost problem and the thing Jesus came down here to end by requiring the return to Mosaic Law of Leviticus 25 debt forgiveness, so he’s on the correct and proper side to the extreme.

    Patrick Slattery,

    republicbroadcastingarchives.org/category/patrick-slattery/

    http://nationalbugle.com/

    the unsung hero among every-day players in defense of humanity against”the predators upon humanity” as St. Paul referred to the Jews,

    says he’s voting for Jill Stein, so it’s hard to disagree with Dr. Hudson and Dr. Slattery, but can’t help but quibble.

    For the reasons expressed above in my comment to Chris Moore, it’s disconcerting hearing the Jewess use the term(s) “fascist” / “fascism” seven times in this interview in reference to JewU$urers.

    She should be naming them as “Jews” and referring to herself proudly as “fascist” if she wants to be clear and convincing.

    Until doing so she leaves the fear she’s controlled opposition as is so common a role for Jews appearing to oppose the main Jew agenda.

  163. @Mr Chow Mein

    Michael Hudson has stated that Germany was twice defeated in a century by the Americans.

    No reason imho that this new effort will be different. Germans are people who fight, not think.

    • Replies: @Pythas
  164. @MT

    You know, you could have said that in one sentence.

  165. Notsofast says:
    @JR Foley

    yup, and all the back up evidence from the pentagon, was in building 7, with donald rumsfeld announcing the missing trillions, on the day before. my what a strange series of coincidences.

  166. Jameson says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    It looks like the road in that picture has no paving, no sewer/gutters, no sidewalks, it is a third world dirt road.

  167. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    The Catholic Church was corrupted by the kikes ages ago. If you’re working within the parameters of Churchianity (corrupt institutional Catholics, Orthodoxy, or Protestantism), you’re spinning your wheels. They’re interested in protecting their turf and maintaining their own parasitic racket (parasitic on Christendom, which is about taking action to destroy kikes and kikery).

    I have nearly as much contempt for Churchianity as I do for jews. It’s practitioners are cowards hiding in pews and in the robes of clergy. Mel Gibson still does good works, but he’s given up on Churchianity, and for all intents and purposes left the corrupt Church, and he was right to do so.

    The Second Coming is going to wipe all falsehood and false religion from the face of the earth. The kike Satanists will be the first to fall (which they realize, and which is why they are currently freaking out) but the other fakes will go down too.

    If you don’t know Jesus Christ is about violence in defense of Christendom and advancement of Christian civilization, then you don’t know Jesus Christ.

    • LOL: Isadore
  168. @Jameson

    About “unpaved roads” in Gaza, see here pictures of Gaza “before and after”:

    “Third World” Gaza before visit by “God’s Chosen People”:

    • Replies: @ranjit
    , @Carney
  169. Its very possible.. I think Trump has been chosen by the regime to be handed this war already happening by the time he gets into office. Biden was removed for dragging his feet.

  170. Oh yay, just what I wanted to read, a bunch of bullshit from a jew and a hasbara homo that blame the west for jewish supremacy and the jewish mass murder of civilians.

    /sarcasm off

    fuk jill steinbergbaumblattfeldman and hudsontard. These deceivers can fecking rot.

  171. jill steinbergbaumblattfeld says:

    And, you know, this is outrageous, especially in the wake of Congress, having invited this war criminal murderer to come, having applauded him, standing ovations, practically one a minute for the entire hour of his speech. Instead of applauding Netanyahu, the US should have been arresting Netanyahu and turning him over to the Hague to be tried for war crimes.

    OK jillberg, WHY are US politicians giving him standing ovations?

    It’s because YOUR people, YOUR fellow jews are blackmailing, funding, and threatening US politicians that they either support jewish terrorism or they will be voted out of office.

    jill, you are deceitful cying lunt. You are running cover for your fellow jews.


    Video Link

  172. Truth bombs……INCOMING!!!!!!!!!

    If I only had $20 for every lying jew and every lying shabbos goy left wingnut like jimmy dore and chris hedges that names everyone BUT THE JEW for the jewish subversion of western politicians, I’d be a very, very wealthy man.

    jews don’t want to put the blame on their own people for the bad behavior of their own people. Non jewish left wingnuts are AFRAID to name the jew for jewish bad behaviors because they know they will have their paypal, shows, youtube etc channels shut down.

    You all are fucking fakers and frauds telling only half truths. People telling the REAL TRUTH are people like Kevin MacDonald, the alt right, Lucas Gage, Jake Shields, etc.

    The rest of you are a bunch of damn deceivers that are little better than scum like netanyahu and the supremacist jews. You are running cover for them due to ethnic loyalty (for jews like stein), or because you are scared little bitches (like jimmy dore and chris hedges and hudsontard).

    • Replies: @TumpSux
    , @Anonymous 1
  173. how about FUCK MARTIN LUCIFER KOON

    and secondly, NEITHER OF THEM has ANY fucking explanation for WHY this stuff keeps happening….it’s all a gd mystery

    THIS IS YOUR NATION ON JEWS.

    Not “neocons” or “neoliberals” or ANY OTHER bullshit label.

    JEWS.

  174. unzrocks says:
    @SteveK9

    You can search and locate unz.com website, make comments, but cannot do a google search on how electricity is generated? What are you some low life, low IQ peon?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_generation#:~:text=Electricity%20is%20most%20often%20generated,solar%20photovoltaics%20and%20geothermal%20power.

    Total world generation in 2021 was 28,003 TWh, including coal (36%), gas (23%), hydro (15%), nuclear (10%), wind (6.6%), solar (3.7%), oil and other fossil fuels (3.1%), biomass (2.4%) and geothermal and other renewables (0.33%).[10]

    IN OTHER WORDS, MODERN ELECTRICITY IS GENERATED BY USING TURBINES POWERED BY ALL TYPES OF METHODS, INCLUDING COAL, GAS, WIND, NUCLEAR, OIL, ETC.

    OIL AND GAS ARE THE SAME THING, ONLY DIFFERENCE IS IN THEIR PHYSICAL STATE.

    Gas and oil are both fossil fuels that are formed from the remains of prehistoric organisms that have decomposed underground over millions of years. The main difference between gas and oil is their physical state:

    Oil
    A liquid at standard atmospheric conditions, oil can range in viscosity from light and thin to heavy and thick. Oil is made up of a complex mixture of hydrocarbons, and each deposit has its own unique chemical composition. Because of this, oil requires extensive refining before it can be used commercially. Refined oil can be used to produce products such as jet fuel, premium unleaded gasoline, roofing tar, and motor oil.
    Gas
    A gaseous hydrocarbon that is lighter than air. Gas is made up of a mixture of hydrocarbons, including ethane, propane, butane, and pentane, but its main component is methane, which makes up roughly 80% of its composition. Gas can be stored and transported in compressed or liquefied form to make it easier to handle. Gas can also be generated relatively quickly through the decomposition of organic material in places like landfills and waste treatment plants.

  175. TumpSux says:
    @King Edward I

    Mossad bomb you white nazi fuks!!

    • Replies: @King Edward I
  176. @TumpSux

    mossad can’t bomb sht without the financial and technical support of WHITE GENTILES like me you retarded shylock.

    You jews wouldn’t be shit if it wasn’t for the military technology that White gentiles built. The muslims would wipe you morons off the map within a few years, you hook nosed jewish supremacist bastard.

    Oh, by the way shlomo, if you are ashkenazi jewish, you aren’t even technically a jew….because your female family line comes from….wait for it….wait for it…..WHITE GENTILE EUROPEAN WOMEN.

    You retarded ashkenazis hate White gentiles, but half of your ancestry is White gentile European.

    You jews are so brainwashed by your lying jewish priests. You don’t know sht about sht.

    https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html

  177. @Sesto

    Assassinations – like terrorist attacks – are not that tough to pull off…. The aftermath is what is difficult to manage.

  178. Anynomous says:

    Our countries in Europe have been increasingly meddled by american and british, together with some elite jews as their allies since american and british terrorists won Germany and Finland in 1945.

    Now american and british finally have got total hold of our throats and are squeezing us as total vassals and slaves of american, while american, british and their local ally, swedish elite in Finland are deciding and running everything behind the scenes, pulling strings of a completely corrupt puppet government.

    • Thanks: HdC
  179. @anonymous

    You are a pathetic low IQ inbred race and your book is a plagiarized bastardization of much more ancient wisdom. The holy land was a garbage dump before the Jews came back, just like America was a wasteland before white Europeans came. No wonder the Jews see you as Amalek. Up your game, tuck in your camel lips, or take a dirt nap.

    • Thanks: Jameson
    • LOL: John Trout
  180. ranjit says:
    @Jameson

    A person becomes a piece of land .A person of righteousness is rendered into the marauding masses seeking infants ‘s blood.

    • Troll: Jameson
  181. @Haxo Angmark

    When it comes to endless blablabla they have serious competition in social media.

  182. xcd says:
    @EL_Kabong

    Hitler said something close in Mein Kampf, but did the moronic word antiSemite exist in 1920?

    • Replies: @EL_Kabong
  183. xcd says:
    @Event Horizon

    Social media sites that allow only “likes”, and interview sites without comments, were created for just such spin where one need not explain anything.

  184. xcd says:
    @MT

    Most of the corpses may still be entombed inside those collapsed buildings.

  185. @King Edward I

    • Thanks: John Wear
  186. Getaclue says:
    @Anon

    “Greens” push the Globalist/Rockefeller/WEF man made climate hoax–it’s total and utter bs and those pushing it are ALL paid to do it–whereby normal people will be depopulated and the rest live as Serfs–amazing any sane person supports this demonic agenda

    • Replies: @Carney
  187. EL_Kabong says:
    @xcd

    Yes, the word came into use in the late 1800s.

  188. @Jameson

    Each new hasbara rat seems to be an even more depraved liar and happy genocidist than the ones that came before. You are a real pustule of evil and hatred, but I suspect that the next will be even worse. And you really wonder why you are so hated.

    • Agree: John Trout, Anonymous 1
  189. Carney says:

    “if you can control the oil trade, you can turn off people’s electricity…”

    Um, no. As of 2023, on a worldwide basis, electricity generation looked like this, in terawatt-hours:

    _8,913.90 — 30.24% renewables (hydropower, solar, wind, bioenergy, etc)
    _2,685.74 — _9.11% nuclear
    __788.55 — _2.67% oil
    _6,622.93– 22.47% natural gas
    10,467.93 — 35.51% coal

    Oil is crucial for transportation motive power, but not for electricity. Solar power alone, at 5.53%, is more than twice as widely used to generate electricity as oil.

    Source: https://ourworldindata.org/electricity-mix

  190. Carney says:
    @Getaclue

    Demented raving. The notion that nuclear-weapon-armed states, including mortal enemies like India vs Pakistan, India vs China, China vs the USSR, the Western states vs the USSR/Russia etc etc could all be somehow forced, bribed, or tricked by a somehow even more powerful entity to march in lockstep to tell massive, easily-refuted lies is obvious nonsense.

    1. It’s easily demonstrated that CO2, while transparent to the visible spectrum, is opaque to infrared and thus heat energy. Fill the space between two panes of glass with CO2, and in the visible spectrum, nothing changes. You’re looking through a clear window. Looking through a heat vision camera, however, and it’s like it was filled with black ink.

    2. We know what the past’s atmospheric composition was by examining trapped air bubbles in ancient ice. Climactic temperatures closely tracks atmospheric CO2 levels.

    3. We know that atmospheric CO2 levels have spiked 40% in the last 200 years, from 280 parts per million to over 400, a neck-snapping suddenness in terms of geological timescales. Temperatures have risen to match. In the geological record, substantial climate change is accompanied by catastrophic levels of mass extinction.

    4. We know that this increased CO2 is specifically from fossil fuels, because the new additional carbon in the atmosphere has the distinctive isotopic “fingerprint” of fossil fuels, not of volcanic carbon and not carbon from the contemporary biosphere (such as decaying wood, forest fires, animal exhalation, etc.)

    Thus: catastrophic man-made global warming is real, and needs to tackled urgently.

    And yes, while Malthusians, extreme greens, Luddites, anti-humans, socialists, and others seek to exploit the crisis to push their agenda, that does not mean the crisis itself does not exist.

    The fact that the Communists tried to exploit the Great Depression to push Communism does not mean the Great Depression was fake. Men photographed in bread lines were not “crisis actors”; Wall Street financiers jumping to their deaths in despair were not dummies, replaced on the pavement by butcher-shop leavings.

    And just as the solution to the Great Depression was NOT Communism, so the solution to the climate crisis is not austerity, de-industrialization, or any aspect of the left-wing agenda.

    It’s simply to shift where we get our energy, from fossil fuels to non-fossil fuel sources, meaning nuclear power and renewables.

    We don’t need to change our way of life, our politics, our economics, etc. We can just drive to the box store in our big SUV, which would be a battery-electric vehicle charged by renewables or nuclear, or be be burning biofuel in its internal combustion engine. And back we’d go to our big house in the suburbs, with its electricity and heat supplied, again, by nuclear power or renewables.

    • Replies: @HdC
  191. A123 says: • Website

    Palestinian Jews promptly responded to Hezbollah killing innocent Druze civilians. This article is from 01-AUG. It is now ten days later 11-AUG.

    Where is the response?

    What happened to Hezbollah and Iran’s “red line”?

    Inquiring minds want to know!

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Anonymous 1
    , @A123
    , @meena
  192. HdC says:
    @Carney

    You must have missed the headlines in California recently that cautioned the denizens of that state to desist from charging the batteries of their electric vehicles because of a shortage of electric power.

    Hot climates require much air conditioning which requires large amounts of electric power. Have any new electric power plants been commissioned anywhere in North America recently?

    A question was recently asked in a US climate committee: “If all the actions proposed were implemented, how much lower would the Earth’s temperature be in 10, 20, or 50 years? No answers!

    Further, not one of the members of that committee knew the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, or that it is indeed plant food. CO2 is a minuscule fraction of the atmosphere; adding a minuscule fraction to that minuscule fraction is going to end life on earth???

    Perhaps those committee worthies should invite a greenhouse operator to bring some reality to their fumbling discussions.

    • Replies: @Carney
  193. @A123

    Hezbollah killing innocent Druze civilians.

    Even the Druze know it was the Israeli Dogs who targeted the children playing football

    ‘Destructive Project’ – Lebanese Druze Leader Urges Caution amid Israeli Provocations.

    https://www.palestinechronicle.com/destructive-project-lebanese-druze-leader-urges-caution-amid-israeli-provocations/

    ‘God is with Palestine’: Four Israeli Soldiers Arrested for Supporting Jenin, Insulting Israel (WATCH) 😁

    https://www.palestinechronicle.com/god-is-with-palestine-four-israeli-soldiers-arrested-for-supporting-jenin-insulting-israel-watch/

  194. anastasia says:
    @Miro23

    They didn’t lose 6 million last time around.

  195. A123 says: • Website
    @A123

    Palestinian Jews promptly responded to Hezbollah killing innocent Druze civilians. This article is from 01-AUG. It is now ten days later 11-AUG.

    Where is the response?

    What happened to Hezbollah and Iran’s “red line”?

    Inquiring minds want to know!

    15-AUG update:

    Hezbollah launched some inaccurate rockets. No damage reported.

    Is it a “pinkish suggestion”?
    Rather than a “red line”?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Anonymous 1
  196. @A123

    More Good news👏👏👏

    Israeli economy on the brink as it awaits retaliation from Resistance Axis.

    Suicides and ‘psychotic situations’ have also seen an increase in the occupied territories over recent weeks 😁

    The Israeli economy is on the ropes as the country awaits retaliation for its attacks against Iran, Lebanon, and Yemen over the past month, according to reports in Hebrew media.

    “These two weeks have exhausted the market, as some economic activities have been canceled, and another part has been reduced due to public fear,” the economic affairs commentator for Israel’s Channel 13 News said on 15 August.

    Israel’s tourism industry, in particular, has recorded massive losses due to the broad cancellation of flights by international airlines.

    Israel’s education sector will also be severely affected if the wait continues into September, as institutions will have to “maneuver within combat scenarios,” according to the Israeli broadcaster.

    The Israeli economy has already taken several hits 10 months into the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza, with the most recent one being the decision by US financial services firm Fitch to downgrade the nation’s credit rating.

    Moreover, the country has seen an increase in “suicidal situations, psychotic situations, and the use of dangerous substances” 😵‍💫among settlers over the past two weeks, health officials told GLZ Radio.

    https://thecradle.co/articles/israeli-economy-on-the-brink-as-it-awaits-retaliation-from-resistance-axis

  197. Carney says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    B-but I was told that Gaza was an “open air prison camp” – and that somehow being geographically small meant consigning the Arabs within it to endless misery, which in turn makes the Gaza/Israel border illegitimate and justifies intruding into Israel to massacre concert-goers. Surely Monaco, Hong Kong, Singapore, Luxemburg, etc are “open air prison camps” too – and their inhabitants must also be bitter radicals who demand to completely conquer their larger neighbors and expel their people.

  198. Carney says:
    @HdC

    Strange, I responded to this but my response seems to have vanished. Well, I’ll try again:

    California’s failure to expand its grid capacity sufficiently to keep up with rising demand is a problem, but to triumphantly cite that failure as if it proves that catastrophic man-made global warming isn’t real is silly.

    California’s unique grid issue aside, the notion that, overall, switching en masse to EVs will require a backbreaking or infeasibly massive increase in grid capacity is not true. The overwhelming majority of EVs recharge late at night and in the wee hours of the morning, precisely when there is vast unused slack capacity in the grid.

    But yes, we should increase grid capacity. Two new nuclear power plants have come online in the US in the last few years. Far too slow a pace there – we should be doing much more, much faster. As for non-nuclear, there are over 11,000 utility-scale electric power plants in the US, so there are always some old plants shutting down and new plants starting up. The bad news is that total output capacity is not rising much or fast enough, and we need to do better. The good news is that (in large part thanks to fracking finally making natural gas cheaper than coal) old coal plants are no longer being replaced by new coal plants but by new natural gas plants, which put out next to no conventional pollution and only half the fossil CO2 of coal.

    Demanding to know in advance how much the Earth’s temperature would go down if we did what is necessary is obnoxious. It’s like pouring gasoline onto a burning house, and — when urgently told you need to stop — insisting that you first be told exactly how your much your stopping would reduce the fire. No, the priority is to stop constantly accelerating the damage you are unnecessarily doing.

    As for CO2 being “plant food” – no. Just mindlessly spiking up CO2 levels doesn’t automatically benefit plant life. You could even cause desertification because of the lack of additional water supplied consistently, and the lack of evolved resistance to the rise of insect life. In any case, the point is, if conservatism (or wise prudent governance, call it what you will) means anything, it means opposing drastic unnecessary change. Even if spiking up CO2 levels would not turn Earth into a global baking Triassic desert and would instead “succeed” in turning Earth into a global sweltering jungle and swamp, we shouldn’t do it. We don’t need to. We can just use nuclear and renewables.

    Before you confidently parrot even more groan-inducing long ago debunked myths and tropes, check this list first:

    https://skepticalscience.com/argument.php?f=taxonomy

    • Replies: @HdC
  199. HdC says:
    @Carney

    Thanks for your reply.
    I do know that recharging EV batteries at night is the least intrusive way to go… That discussion was held long ago. But that applies only to commuter cars with sufficient battery capacity for one day’s round trip. How many cars would require recharging during the day while parked at the work site, so that the car would be available for other trips after returning home? What about commercial vehicles that may require recharging during lunch breaks?

    I recently had the opportunity to attend a presentation by one of Canada’s authority on green house growing operations: CO2 is plant food; green house operators increase the CO2 levels in their grow operations up to 1000 ppm. Plant productivity increases tremendously with this. Agreed that other needs of the plants need to be met also, such as water and daylight.

    It goes without saying that ALL measures need to be employed wisely.

    Braying endlessly about carbon pollution is the stupidest way forward. Have you ever seen any carbon in the atmosphere? Me neither. It is carbon dioxide -CO2- that all the fuss is about and, regardless of what you and your ilk would have us believe, CO2 is beneficial, nay necessary, to all life on earth.

  200. bert33 says:

    There’s a red line, sure, but it’s america’s red line. The middle east, iran included, pretyy much owes its soul to the US. If you start your reading long about the foundoing of saudi aramco, the source of wealth for the saudi royals, and extrapolate the global oil market that led to OPEC’s prominence and geopolitical influence, with a quick stop in israel for their founding as a country, then over to iran for some of their pre-ayatollah history, then you can see that the US has done a LOT for that part of the world. Fast-forward to modern day, and Qatari affluenza and Iran’s international underhanded machinaions, and we see a situation metastasized by petrobillions and decade old squabbles and ‘lets you and him fight’. Undt, zechoos…of course. Iran just got their political mosques shut down in germany, germany got their goeth institute closed out of iran.

    Its time for america to stop playing host to this crap. Time for middle east countries, israel included, to start having weekly sit-downs and figure this out. The next step is off a cliff, so cooler heads better prevail, and pronto. Time to stop and make peace, or make peace with their makers.

  201. Pythas says:
    @A B Coreopsis

    Hey shithead it was the Russians who destroyed the German armies in the East. Almost 70% of all Wehrmacht forces in WWII fought on the Eastern front. Hudson doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about!

    • Replies: @unzrocks
  202. unzrocks says:
    @Pythas

    More like 80% of German Nazis were fighting in Russia and 70% of Imperial Japan were fighting in China. The US came in at the tail end and played clean up duty and won both WW1 and WW2 due to suffering minimal losses.

    • Replies: @HdC
  203. HdC says:
    @unzrocks

    The USA declared war on Germany defacto when France and Britain did so formally.

    The USA supplied ships and other war material to Britain, and president Roosevelt ordered the US navy to fire on German naval vessels, while the USA was still officially neutral.

    Not until the US bellicosity got really out of hand did Germany formally declare war on the USA. This was done so that the German high command could give legal orders to fight back.

    Apart from that the USA supplied millions upon millions of tons of war material to the Soviet Union including US dollar printing plates. Without this help the Soviet Union would have lost the war against Germany; this was stated by Stalin himself after the war.

    You can gloat all you want about the USA win while the USA and western countries go down the drain.

    • Replies: @unzrocks
  204. unzrocks says:
    @HdC

    I’m not gloating about the US win. I’m in the US myself and consider the US to be the global evil empire that got filthy rich supplying and financing both WW1 and WW2 so that all their rival and competitors destroyed each other while the US was 8000+ miles away getting rich due to a full employment war economy.

  205. @lastwhiteman

    Wipe them off the face of the earth, keep the Jews in the middle east and out of the west.

    The problem is jews refuse to leave the west, and you have no legitimate solution for how to make them leave permanently.

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