Bystarter

Aero 125, Elite 80/125/150/250, Helix bystarter (choke)
These models use an electric "choke". It's not a standard choke, in the sense that it doesn't
choke off the flow of air (and make the fuel/air ratio richer). It is a device that shuts off
the flow of air to the starting circuit as the scooter warms up. The bystarter is a small,
black cylindrical device with two wires coming out of it. When the engine is running,
12V are applied to these wires. Over about 10 minutes or so, the bystarter warms up as
the enging warms up. There is some wax in the bystarter (believe it or not) that is heated
by a small heater. It expands, and extends the bystarter needle about 1/8". This is enough
to close off the starting circuit.
After a number of years, the device builds up electrical resistance and it doesn't do its job
any more. A new bystarter has a resistance of about 4 ohms. When resistance builds to
over 10 ohms, it should be replaced.
To check for proper bystarter function, There is a complex test in the service manual that
can be performed, but there is a simple test that works almost as well. Remove the
bystarter and examine it. Are the wires in good shape? Is the needle in good shape?
Nothing looks broken? Hook up a 12V source to the two wires. After ~10 mintues, the
bystarter should become warm, and extend the needle ~1/8" or so. Measure it with a pair
of verneer calipers or whatever you have handy. If it extends properly it's probably ok.
The only sure way to tell if it is bad is to do the full test as described in the service
manual. This involves removing the carb and leaving the bystarter attached. Draw a
vacuum in the starting circuit outlet. There should be little resistance when the bystarer is
cold and plenty of resistance when the bystarter has been heated up. A bad bystarter will
either not expand properly or not contract properly. Finding replacements can be difficult.
The Elite 125 & 150 bystarters can be replaced with one from a '87 Elite 150. Honda still
seems to be making these. The cost is around $65. Replacements for the Elite 250
bystarter can be obtained by ordering a Honda Helix part (they essentially share the same
engine). The Elite 80, 125/150 and Elite 250 bystarters are not interchangeable, because
they are different lengths.
Type bystarter length*, cold bystarter length*, hot
CH80 2.727" 2.902"
CH125/CH150 3.285" 3.442"
CH250/Helix 3.480" 3.652"
*Allow about 0.005" for manufacturing variations.
The Fuel bystarter valve

(the what?)
Most scooters have an "electric

choke" which acts automatically
to help the scooter start. There
are two parts to this system. The
first is the set of passageways internal to the carburetor ( fuel enrichment circuit). The
second is the big black lump sticking out of the carburetor (photo at left) with two wires
that connect to the rest of the wiring loom(bystarter valve).
The Fuel enrichment circuit acts like the manual choke in other carburetors to aid cold
starts . Instead of reducing the air intake to richen the fuel/air mixture like a "choke", the
"fuel enrichment" circuit adds fuel to the existing mixture. The "fuel enrichment circuit"
has a separate jet that picks up fuel from the fuel bowl and sends it to the venturi of the
carburetor. The function of the Bystarter valve is to close off this circuit after the engine
has warmed up and no longer needs an "enrichened " fuel mixture. The brass needle
shown sticking out of the bottom of the bystarter extends to block the "fuel enrichment"
circuit once the scooter is started and electricity is generated to the bystarter valve. It
takes time to fully extend, thus giving the scooter time to "warm up".
I get a lot of mail asking about where to get a new bystarter valve. The writer usually
goes on to explain that their scooter is hard to start when cold so the bystarter valve must
be "broken". The flaw in this reasoning is that if the bystarter valve is "broken" and not
extending, then the scooter would be easy to start when cold but hard to start when
warm. Odds are if
your scooter is hard to
start, it's the fuel
passage that's clogged
(idle, choke or both;
see photo below) .
Both jets are very

small and prone to
clogging if you let the
scooter sit for long
periods of time
without running. If
you do not plan on
running the scooter for
lengthy periods then
drain the fuel bowl.
Unlike the idle jet, the
fuel enrichment jet
isn't replaceable. It's
simply a small hole
drilled into a brass rod
that's then pressed into the carburetor body . The idle air/fuel adjustment screw shown in
the photo isn't present in all carburetors. The carburetor shown isn't off of a Honda
scooter but was simply a carburetor I had available for taking a pic of. If you take the fuel
bowl off of the Honda carburetors it will look very similiar, if not identical, to the one in
the photo.

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Aero 125, Elite 80/125/150/250, Helix bystarter (choke)

*Allow about 0.005" for manufacturing variations.

The Fuel bystarter valve

Most scooters have an "electric

Both jets are very

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