RRC Re-Establishment
RRC Re-Establishment
RRC Re-Establishment
When we refer to EPS bearers, it means we always refer to Data Radio bearers (DRBs) when in comes to
E-UTRAN Radio/Air interface. EPS never directly refers to SRB. A PDN Connection gets mapped all the
way till a DRB and is available only in user plane. Usually EPS bearer identity in EPS = DRB identnty in
E-UTRAN, let it be default or dedicated bearers. The DRBs exists in the path UE <--> eNodeB <--> S-GW
<--> P-GW.
But the story is entirly different in case of SRBs. We can say, SRB exists in the path UE <--> eNodeB <-->
MME <--> S-GW <--> P-G, but it is not true, SRBs exists only in the path UE <--> eNodeB. After eNodeB
SRBs are not mapped to any other bearers in EPC. SRBs exists only in control plane of UE <--> ENodeB
and these are used to exchange the information (through NAS or AS signaling messages) that helps in
setup/ modification/ release of DRBs.
So when we refer to EPS bearers they are all logical path and in terms of radio bearers they are refered
as DRBs. SRB though it is also a logical path, it does not find its context in EPS bearers.
That’s the good catch. I would like to make one thing sure. 11 EPS bearers are never mapped on 8 logical channel
Ids. Each EPS bearer, i.e. DRB is mapped to one DTCH logical channel. So, following table shows mapping.
Table 4.8.2.1.7-1 of spec 36.508 dictates how the values of DRB id should be used. As per this document filling of the
DRB-ToAddMod information element (IE) is done as follows:
Consider we are establishing DRB2 through RRCConnectionReconfiguration Message.
Then,
Table 4.5.3.3-1 of same spec which gives detailed procedure of generic radio bearer establishment, indicates the
number of drbs to be added (N) is 0 <= N <= 7.
Thus, Specification nowhere specifies what is the mapping after all logical Channel IDs are used up?
We can expect this field to be updated in upcoming publication of 36.331 spec.
What do you say?
7 UE will remain idle irrespective of eNodeB RRC Release.(UE will remain in idle if T301(Restablishment
request),T311(Restablishment procedure for suitable EUTRA cell or for another RAT) expiry, Also at expiry of
T310 if security is not activated)
The connection re-establishment succeeds only if the concerned cell is prepared i.e. has a
valid UE context. In case E-UTRAN accepts the re-establishment, SRB1 operation resumes while the
operation of other radio bearers remains suspended. If AS security has not been activated, the UE
doesn’t initiate this procedure, instead, it moves to RRC_IDLE directly
The UE initiates the RRC CONNECTION RE-ESTABLISHMENT procedure when one of the following
conditions is met:
Upon detecting radio link failure; or
Upon handover failure; or
Upon mobility from E-UTRA failure; or
Upon integrity check failure indication from lower layers; or
Upon an RRC CONNECTION RECONFIGURATION failure
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'OtherFailure' could be because of radio link failure, integritycheck failure etc.. whichever
doesn't fall in the category of 'handoverFailure' or 'reconfigurationFailure'
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Guru PrakashJune 24, 2013 at 12:17 PM
Based on what condition eNB come to know UE has lost its Radio link between the UE and
eNB?
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upon receiving N310 consecutive "out-of-sync" indications for the Cell from lower layers a
timer T310 is started and when this timer expires. It is understood by UE that RLF has
occured
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If either T311 or T301 expires, the UE goes to Idle mode and no more RRC Connection
Re-establishments sent. This implies that the UE could try re-establishment only once after
the procedure is triggered.
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Hi
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Kumar Swamy PasupuletiSeptember 2, 2013 at 6:02 AM
Please specify what do you mean by False RRC connection re-est request
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It check fails at UE PDCP, it intimates to RRC about it and RRC triggers RRC Connection
re-establishment.
How about at eNodeB, What RRC will do once it got indication from PDCP of eNOdeB.
Regards,
Venky
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Kumar Swamy PasupuletiSeptember 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM
Usually, eNB maintains (at RRC) an UE context once the connection is established (also,
a context between the MME and eNodeB)
The IE ShortMAC-I is used to identify and verify the UE at RRC connection re-
establishment. The 16 least significant bits of the MAC-I calculated using the security
configuration of the source PCell
PCell is the primary cell on which UE has initiated the connection establishment and
attached to. This terminology is wrt to Carrier Aggregation where there could be more than
one serving cell (aggregated) to increase the bandwidth. All additional serving cells apart
from PCell are referred to as secondary cells (SCells)
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Hi,
Since RRC Re-establishment occur after losing RRC connection so every rrc re-
establishment request can consider as RRC drop irrespective of re-establishment success
or failure. ??
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RajeshKumar@CommonManDecember 24, 2014 at 8:27 AM
Means UE send RRC Re-Establishment Req to Old eNB rather than new
eNB in case of HO?
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If the radio link is failed with current cell due to HO failure. UE tries to establish RRC
connection again by sending RRC connection reestablishment request to eNB. Suppose
in our scenario, by that time UE is moved to new cell (target eNB) where it is getting good
signal, then,
Will the same UE sends RRC connection re-establishment request or new RRC connection
request to target eNB? (But still the existing UE context with source eNB has not been
transferred to target eNB.)
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The RLF Indication procedure may be initiated after a UE attempts to re-establish the radio
link connection at eNB B after a failure at eNB A. The RLF INDICATION message sent
from eNB B to eNB A shall contain the following
information elements:
- Failure Cell ID: PCI of the cell in which the UE was connected prior to the failure occurred;
- C-RNTI: C-RNTI of the UE in the cell where UE was connected prior to the failure
occurred;
- shortMAC-I (optionally): the 16 least significant bits of the MAC-I calculated using the
security configuration of the source cell and the re-establishment cell identity;
- UE RLF Report Container (optionally): the RLF Report received from the UE
eNB B may initiate RLF Indication towards multiple eNBs if they control cells which use the
PCI signalled by the UE during the re-establishment procedure. The eNB A selects the UE
context that matches the received Failure Cell ID and C-RNTI, and, if available, uses the
shortMAC-I to confirm this identification, by calculating the shortMAC-I and comparing it to
the received IE
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Luv SinghAugust 7, 2014 at 12:18 PM
Hi Swamy , considering the above case , so eNB B has got the context of
UE from eNB A or from its controlled cells . And now eNB tries to match the
fetched MAC-I & ue MAC-I (in Estab req message) & it fails . Then eNB B
sends reject msg to UE .
Could you please tell possibilities of MAC-I verification failure at eNB ??
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-- Else, eNB B is not a prepared cell, i.e had not previously received HO
Request from eNB A. From Rel-12 onwards, eNB-B will send a RLF
indication message to eNB A. eNB A will verify the UE' CRNTI and then will
proceed with Handover Request message to eNB B. (See 36.300 Section
20.2.2.12, If the previous serving eNB matches the correct context, it may
also trigger the Handover Preparation procedure towards the eNB that
initiated the Radio Link Failure Indication procedure.).
This way eNB-B gets UE's context from eNB-A. But this is only supported
from Rel-12 onwards.
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Hi,
I have a particular problem was wondering if you could help. I have RRC connection
recofiguration (HO information) then RRC Connection reconfiguration complete in target
cell. X2 based so I can see pathswitch being acknowledged for erab id 5 but then the HO
fails the UE reads MIB in the target cell and also does a RRC connection re-establishment
with cause "HO Failure". Is this to do with lower layer sync issue or something else ?
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How can I make Ue to trigger re-establishment request by integrity check failure. I mean
after UE attached to Pcell and scell is configured I want UE to send re-establishment with
reason as other failure. Can you please help?
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Sorry, I have to use integrity check because it is a specific requirement. How to trigger this?
Thanks in advance.
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Kumar Swamy PasupuletiOctober 24, 2014 at 10:52 PM
Which Test environment is being used? after succesful security procedure,
reconfigure integrity protection algorithm at the simulator side but don't
signal to the UE. I think this will do the job, but I am not 100% sure
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Hello, Im noticing that all of the "LTE RRC Connection Reestablishment Requests" are
rejected inmediatly by the network. Is it possible that the network im working on currently
does not have active the Reestablishment feature? And if so What is it needed to activate
it and what is the procedure? Thanks a lot.
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Kumar Swamy PasupuletiNovember 12, 2014 at 9:43 AM
Hi,
Is Reestablishment request is sent on the serving cell or any other cell?
There may be a possibility that the UE is sending Reestablishment request
message on some other cell, and that particular cell is not prepared for
Reestablishment, meaning that it can't fetch UE's context from the source
cell....
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Hi, In all of the cases the Reestablishment request is sent on the serving cell
and on directed to the serving cell. Also in all of the drive tests i have seen
there isn't a single successful "LTE RRC Connection Reestablishment".
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Could you please tell how rrc will get re-established if radio-link failure detect (due to RLC
Max retransmission) at eNodeB side?
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hi
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Hi!
I am trying to detect a radio link failure. In case the re establishment cause is 'otherFailure',
but it is not specified exactly if it is RLF or something else, how can I track this using other
messages? For example by receiving an RRCConnectionRequest, could it mean that the
UE went into Idle mode due to a radio link failure and now it is trying to reconnect to the
network?
Thanks in advance :)
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Hi
I want to reduce RRC reestablishment attempt for HO to Improve HO Performance so
which NSN Parameter need to tune to Reduce RRC reestablishment attempt.
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Hi
I want to reduce RRC reestablishment attempt for HO to Improve HO Performance so
which NSN Parameter need to tune to Reduce RRC reestablishment attempt.
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When Radio Link Failure occurs T311 timer starts along with Reestablishment. However
receipt of which message or event on UE side will stop the T311 timer. Standard simply
says "“selection of suitable E-UTRA cell” but doesn't explicitly say that on receipt of which
message from eNB will UE stop running T311 Timer
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Kumar Swamy PasupuletiOctober 6, 2015 at 9:13 AM
Hi Mohal,
There is no need to receive any message from the eNodeB to for the
"Selection of suitable E-UTRA Cell".
The UE shall select a suitable cell based on idle mode measurements and
cell selection criteria.
If more than one PLMN identity is broadcast in the cell, the cell is considered
to be part of all TAs with TAIs constructed from the PLMN identities and the
TAC broadcast in the cell.
Hi KSP,
Which message EnodeB will communicate to MME after Receiving the Reestablishment
Complete message from UE. what else messages will transverse between enodeb and
mme, before sending Reconfiguration message to UE from EnodeB after Reestablishment
complete message has been received at EnodeB.
Thanks
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Kumar Swamy PasupuletiJanuary 4, 2016 at 9:11 AM
It is same way as RRC Connection Request (establishment)...
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Hi,
Can anyone explain various reasons of HO fails in both preparation phase and execution
phase in LTE?
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Hi KMP,
If you please tell me the initial trouble shooting for SINR. SRB1 success ratio can be
degraded because of SINR?. or SINR is main cause of Re-establishment? thanks