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Once Upon a Time in Hollywood by Quentin Tarantino
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it was ok

Considering that Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is my favorite film, and Quentin Tarantino is my favorite film maker, I was very very excited for this book to be released. I bought it the day it came out, started it right away… and was disappointed by the end of the second chapter.

My main issue with this is the amount of information that is given, most of it being useless.
There are multiple chapters about characters within the show Lancer… characters who are not real within this universe. I was confused on why this mattered, given it contributes absolutely nothing to the plot.
Also we learn the backstory to Roman Polanski’s film Rosemary’s Baby, which also gives nothing to the story. I understand Tarantino finds this interesting, but I do not, given that I read this novel for a tale of a struggling actor in the 1960’s, not a collection of fun facts surrounding figures of Old Hollywood.

The novel starts with Rick Dalton having a conversation with agent Marvin Schwarz. The chapter goes on for twenty four pages, and is mainly just Rick explaining all of the films and television shows he has done, along with people he has met. Now to a certain extent, this is interesting. It gives some backstory to Rick (which is something that I was really looking forward to in this novel, and was not given), but after ten pages of references to various figures and movies from the 1960’s that most people have never even heard of, it gets a little old.

Then the second chapter happens, which I hated even worse than the first one. This chapter is almost entirely the character Cliff’s opinions on film, which I assume is just a self-insert for Tarantino himself. For about twenty pages, we have to read about foreign films from the 60’s. Sorry, but if I had wanted to read about Japanese film exports, I would have found a nonfiction book about them, not a novel.
And yes, I know the movie, and by extension, this novel, is a love letter to Old Hollywood. But must I read page after page about a fictional character’s opinion on films that has absolutely nothing to do with the plot?

And on the topic of Cliff’s character… it is horrible. I have seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood many times, and the Cliff there is not the same in this novel. He is misogynistic, only caring about having sex with women. He is racist (the whole Bruce Lee scene), and homophobic (he uses the f slur three times in one page). He pursues Pussycat, even though he admits that he does not know how old she is, but believes she is under eighteen. He is a war hero, but only uses that status when it lets him get away with murder (this literally happens twice). He also fights dogs and considers becoming a pimp. And why am I supposed to like this character? Although Tarantino tries to make him a ‘cool guy’ by giving him a backstory that portrays him as someone who is untouchable, (all I wanted was a backstory for Rick and got nothing, but we must hear about Cliff’s killing of Japanese soldiers on multiple occasions) he has pretty much no redeeming qualities, and is a far cry from the man who was in the film.

Continuing on with characters, it seemed that I was supposed to sympathize with Charles Manson. Right after a chapter which brutally accounts Cliff’s gruesome, cold blooded murder of his wife, whom he pretty much says deserved it because she was a bitch, we get a chapter about how poor, pitiful ‘Charlie’ just wants to be a rock star and is sad after he gets stood up by a representative of a recording label. I’m not sure what Tarantino’s intentions were here. Are we supposed to feel sorry for him? In no universe will I ever give that man sympathy, and I’m not sure why Tarantino would even try to evoke that from his readers.
I will say, I enjoyed learning more about the Manson Family, within this universe, but not all of it. Pussycat’s story was uncomfortable. The amount of sexualization of a girl who we never learn if she is even legal or not was not something I enjoyed reading. (We do hear about her having sex with older men when she is 14, so there’s that).

On to positives.
Rick Dalton. For the most part, I really enjoyed all of the chapters which primarily featured him. His role in the film is one of my favorite characters of all time, so I was happy he was not given the Cliff Booth treatment and absolutely destroyed. I found his interactions with Trudi to be sweet and enjoyable to read.

Another positive for me is Sharon Tate, minus the fact she was, like the movie, barely in this novel. The scene, which mirrors the one in the film, where she goes to the theater to watch her own movie, was by FAR by favorite. Sharon’s inner dialogue is so charming, like she was in real life, and makes you root for her. If you didn’t love her before, reading this scene will do it. (Also the chapter with her hitchhiking to LA was enjoyable, minus some creepy comments about her body)
Something I, as a fan of Sharon, did not appreciate about her was when she was treated almost like a pawn between her husband Roman and Steve McQueen. This was just a small section, not even a full page, but it stuck with me. Sleeping with her was brought up, like it was a competition between the two men. I honestly found this disgusting and disrespectful. Sharon was, and is still, more than just someone that was slept with, and I find it disturbing that it is suggested otherwise.

In conclusion, this book disappointed me. I had such high expectations, and this novel reached none of them. I struggled to finish this. Tarantino makes excellent films, and I’m sorry to say, but maybe he should just stick to what he’s good at.

I would just skip this and watch the film instead.
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Reading Progress

June 9, 2021 – Shelved
June 9, 2021 – Shelved as: to-read
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June 30, 2021 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Mark (new)

Mark  Porton Shame, as the film was great! Nice review Allie!


Lewis Simpson Agree with every point, even down to the Sharon cinema chapter being the best one. The book often felt like being locked in a room with Tarantino endlessly talking about his favourite films


Cassie Yes, I agree with this review. I’m sure if you’re a western cinephile it’s great. But also, I was not a fan of the incessant mention of feet lol! But, typical Tarantino. My husband and I had bets on how many times he’d mention them.


message 4: by Jeremy (new) - added it

Jeremy Mullins Who said you’re supposed to like Cliff?


message 5: by Brian (new)

Brian I wanted to read it until I read this. I always thought QT would make for a terrific author so I still might give it a whirl.


message 6: by Harlan (last edited Jul 12, 2021 01:49AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Harlan Thater Great review, I was disappointed by this one too (even if OUATIH isn't one of my favorite films). It felt like Tarantino was more interested in showing off his film knowledge than in telling a story, and like he even gave up on the story, considering pretty much the whole third act of the film was summed up in just a couple paragraphs about halfway through the book. Also, I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure Pussycat is indeed 16 during the "present day" parts of the book (based on the timeline). Pretty gross, Quentin.


Christoph This pretty much sums up why I didn't enjoy this book.


Steve Zappa I just finished it. I don't know why this books has such high ratings on this site. I'm guessing there were a lot of big Tarantino fans who unconsciously promised themselves they'd love it before they even read the first page. I was disappointed, too. I enjoyed the movie. I recently decided I'd get into writing reviews, as a hobby. I'll write one up tomorrow, but as of right now I don't know where I'll start. However, getting my BA in English and philosophy and writing loads of essays, I ought to be able to write some book reviews. At least I hope all goes well. I do know that, like you, I'll be giving this a 2 star rating. And I was sincerely hoping I'd love this book.


message 9: by Ewo2 (new)

Ewo2 Having just finished chapter 2, I'm on the same page. It doesn't feel like a novel, it feels like a screenplay littered with factoids about 1960s Hollywood and Tarantino's opinions on the filmmakers of the era. It drifts between POVs within single chapters and explicitly spells out motivations rather than letting the dialogue speak for itself. These conventions make perfect sense in a screenplay, but make a novel feel amateurish.


message 10: by Jim (last edited Aug 03, 2021 11:05AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jim WELL DONE PAN OF THE NOVEL

Kudos for a "negative review" that informs readers exactly WHY you were negative - the like-minded surely appreciate that you "took one for the team".

Imagine how much tougher this would have been if you'd listened to Jennifer Jason Lee read it for 12+ hours (as I'm doing - now 7 hours in).

Very well done for explaining Cliff Booth's "misogyny", "homophobia", and "racism". I'd like offer a different take for those of your generation and sensiblity:

A 1969 POV AND SENSIBILITY

I took Booth's "racism" to be simple dislike for a self-important actor who had a habit of (and reputation for) displaying his self-importance over and over.

Generally "homophobia" in 1969 is NOT demonstrated by use of that particular f-word - at least, not more than his contemporaries.

And, I doubt that the 22-yr-old secretary she dated understood Booth to be a "misogynist" - so it went 50 years ago.

(none of this make your observations invalid - I actually believe QT would be pleased at your disapproval)


CLIFF BOOTH IS THE ACTUAL PROTAGONIST IN THE NOVEL

(Cliff has) pretty much no redeeming qualities

Rick Dalton would beg to differ, since Cliff is his champion and confidant.

Cliff’s opinions on film...a self-insert for Tarantino

I quite agree - to the extent that those opinions were a minor subset of QT's encyclopedic fandom, No doubt this will be (has already been?) a topic for the podcasts that QT is pleased to attend.

MANSON

it seemed that I was supposed to sympathize with "(a poor pitiful, wanna be rock star)"

While QT DID use Manson's POV (the "sympathy") - it seemed plain to me that he was also portrayed as a pathetic loser - no "one note" here - more of a choral progression.

DALTON

I was happy (Dalton) was not given the Cliff Booth treatment

I was pleased that Dalton was so richly drawn - and IF he'd been drawn as an extreme outlier like Booth, that would have been very implausible.


message 11: by Una (new) - rated it 4 stars

Una Duffy I would agree with this review 100%!!! Well said.


Bruce Although I did enjoy the book, I did see exactly what you were talking about. The whole time during these long passages my EXACT thought was, "This book is basically the Ready Olayer One of Hollywood nerds". It's Nostalgia-bait for Tarantino's classic era Hollywood.


Emanuel Sanabria So you're basically accusating Tarantino of being himself? Every aspect of what you mention are part of this guy's style: references to movies and pop culture in general (don't forget all those songs you didn't know about); cool, violent, quirky and mostly un-redeemable characters; Utilisation of actual pop characters (Bruce Lee, Sharon Tate, etc) for aesthetic and toying purposes rather than as plot devices; segways just added for colour; etc etc.


Emanuel Sanabria Sorry, that came out stronger and more toxic than I intended. I meant: the negatives aspects you're pointing at, I believe are part of Tarantino aesthetic choices, they're not really flaws. What I do agree without it's that the web of references doesn't translate as well in written as it does in the screen. Kill Bill has a myriad of refs but because they're visual, they don't interfere with story. Although if you get the refs, they don't always add more to the story neither, they're usually just easter eggs, homages and aesthetic effects


Tabitha "Meatboy" Bathory I find it hard to believe that Quentin is your favorite film maker and "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" is your favorite film, considering based on your review you seemingly have no understanding of him or his work.

You say information that was given useless, that Cliff is bad person, that you think QT was trying to get you to feel sorry for Charles Manson. But, that couldn't be farther from the point.

The Lancer chapters weren't useless, you just didn't understand them. It was setting the stage, literally, for the novel. There is character work at play in those for characters in the story, plus it's expanding on the story of (Lancer) from the movie.

Cliff being a bad person *is* his character. This takes place in 1969, Cliff was born in 1921. He's been through a lot, seen a lot, and a lot of his behaviors can be attributed to the time period. This is also the same reasoning towards the negatives you said about Sharon Tate and Charles Manson.

Also, you say you really enjoyed Rick's parts and that his role is one of your "favorite characters of all time", but he in a lot of ways is just as bad as Cliff. Yes, Cliff is shown doing *more* bad things than Rick, but they're also seen and heard both doing equally bad things. So to say one is fine while the other is entirely not isn't fair to Cliff, and overly fair to Rick, in that case.

You didn't like this book because you didn't understand it.


message 16: by Greg (new)

Greg Hodgkins Very good review. You hit on the high & low points very well. I found most of the old Hollywood stuff tedious & pedantic. QT could have used a good editor on this to trim it down. I also found the story within a story within a story within a story western characters weird--were they fictional or historical? If fictional, why even add that unnecessary part. Not a Goodread!


Jason Agreed. Cliff's character was decimated in this book. Even if some of the back story would have been dubious or objectionable, he should have still been the same character. It seemed like he only purpose he played here was to pop up every once in a while to do something to make him look like a bit character piece of shit. Plus the line "Don't cry in front of the Mexicans" isn't uttered. BOOOOOOO! Instant 50 points off the book from the get-go.


Anita George I agree. I love Tarentino and this movie, but the book is dead boring. I didn't finish it.


message 19: by Dion (new) - rated it 5 stars

Dion How is Tarantino ur favorite and the movie ur favorite work of his but this book bored you? He even writes his movies like novels, a lot of talking and a lot of personality. But yet you find this boring? Weird


message 20: by D. (new) - rated it 4 stars

D. This is one of those cases in which someone doesn't understand the movies and directors they like. Really weird how this is one of the most liked reviews on this site.


message 21: by Karl (new) - rated it 3 stars

Karl O' Maybe you should just have read the screenplay. Then there would have been no differences.


message 22: by Paul (new) - added it

Paul Pimenta This is why people don't like the book, and think it's boring: Because Quentin used it, much like lots of dialogue in his movies, to show us how much he personally knows about the movies, and his opinion of it. That's it.

Now, I still am enjoying the book, so far. But that's the reason why lots of people aren't thrilled with the book.


Pearce Wild. I was mixed on the movie and the book actually improved my opinion of it, by giving it context For example, the way it portrayed Cliff Booth.

In the movie, I thought that Cliff was portrayed as a cool guy whose side we were supposed to be on, but I also felt that he was a misogynist who killed his wife for nagging and who relished beating another woman's face to a pulp. I also disliked the Bruce Lee scene, which felt cheap - I thought Tarantino was saying "my guy is so tough he can beat up Bruce Lee!"

In the book, all of this is complicated and it's made clear that Cliff isn't supposed to be admirable. Tarantino is more on side with Zoe Bell's character, who bawls him out and has him fired. Cliff is in many ways a terrible person - misogynist, racist, homophobic, willing to casually murder people. He's also a good friend to Rick and not entirely unsympathetic, but he's not someone you'd want to run into on a bad day.

If you want more about Rick Dalton, check out the most recent episode of The Video Archives Podcast, where Tarantino talks a lot about his career. It's a metafictional episode that makes out Dalton was a real person who has recently died aged 90, the episode is structured as a tribute.


message 24: by Ed (new) - added it

Ed Baswell Great review, and I'm in the same boat in that I love the movie. I'm afraid now that reading the book might ruin the characters (especially C.B.). I might still read it, but now I'm not as sure. Thanks again for the well written, solid review.


message 25: by Tony (new) - rated it 2 stars

Tony Baker I was iffy about the Lancer chapters too, but I DO think it's interesting that, between the chapters actually told from Lancer characters' point of view, the scenes we see depicted here and in the film, and the climactic phone convo beween Rick and Trudi Frazer, we actually get a full accounting of the story of the Lancer pilot, including the ending.


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