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Apr 17, 2016
bookshelves: 1001-books-to-read-before-you-die, favorites, unforgettable, charles-dickens
Nomen Est Omen, in the world according to Dickens!
But don’t take it literally, especially not when reading the title of Bleak House. For Dickens also requires you to read between the lines, and letters, just like in an acrostic poem:
BLEAK HOUSE
Lovely characters
Elegant prose
Agonising cliffhangers
Knowledgeable descriptions
Humorous plot
Outrageous social conditions
Unusual dual narrative
Suits in Chancery
Everlasting favourite
Yes, Christmas is approaching, it’s Dickens time. I spent it in Chancery this year. And what can I say? Bravo Dickens? No, I stole that Thackeray phrase for David Copperfield last year already! Bravissimo, you fulfilled every single one of my great expectations, as did Great Expectations? Yes, ...
I will just say a simple: “Thank you, Sir!”
I have spent delightful hours in the company of good and bad, funny and passionate, silly and intelligent characters, brought to life in inimitable prose. Where else can I laugh and cry and bite my nails at the same time, while bowing to the elegance of the sentences that follow each other like pearls on one of Lady Dedlock’s more expensive necklaces? Where else can I hate and feel compassion, and wonder at the immense difference between my contemporary world and the London society of Dickens’ times,- and yet recognise it anyway, for being almost identical? For could not Dickens’ short comment on the state of British politics have been heading a newspaper article in 2016, just as well:
“England has been in a dreadful state for some weeks. Lord Coodle would go out, Sir Thomas Doodle wouldn’t come in, and there being nobody in Great Britain (to speak of) except Coodle and Doodle, there has been no Government.”
Following my reading itinerary, from start to finish, I realise how much I grew to love the many characters, all different, but equally at home in the Bleak House chocolate box, some nutty, some sweet, some rather plain, others exotic. In the end, they all lived up to my expectations, from the very first encounter with the complicated lawsuit of Jarndyce and Jarndyce, which gives the novel its unique flavour:
"In which (I would say) every difficulty, every contingency, every masterly fiction, every form of procedure known in that court, is represented over and over again?"
And what a range of characters I met, circling around the two stable elements of Mr John Jarndyce and Miss Esther Summerson, a young woman who shares the narration of the story with an omniscient voice, so that the narrative is swapping back and forth between her personal experience and impersonal overarching description.
Some characters, like Skimpole, get away with sponging ruthlessly on others because of their presumed innocence:
"All he asked of society was, to let him live. That wasn't much. His wants were few. Give him the papers, conversation, music, mutton, coffee, landscape, fruit in the season, a few sheets of Bristol-board, and a little claret, and he asked no more."
It is not as innocent as that of course, as the story will tell!
Many characters have reason to be frustrated, and Bleak House inspired me to rename my workroom as well, in honour of John Jarndyce’s favourite place:
"This, you must know, is the Growlery, When I am out of humour I come and growl here. [...] The Growlery is the best-used room in the house."
There is no one like Dickens to introduce the reader to a love story in the making, simply by changing the tone used to add a small piece of information at the end of a long chapter on something completely unrelated:
"I have forgotten to mention - at least I have not mentioned - that Mr Woodcourt was the same dark young surgeon whom we had met at Mr Badger's. Or, that Mr Jarndyce invited him to dinner that day. Or, that he came."
Another favourite feature in Dickens’ novels is the punny sense of humour that appears over and over again, and shows off both his talent for and his pleasure at playing with words for their own sake, as well as his mastery when it comes to giving all his characters their own stage time, beautifully shown in the following short lesson in mental geometry and verbal comedy:
"But I trusted to things coming round."
That very popular trust in flat things coming round! Not in their being beaten round, or worked round, but in their 'coming' round! As though a lunatic should trust in the world's 'coming' triangular!
"I had confident expectations that things would come round and be all square", says Mr Jobling."
Sociologists must love Dickens too. There is more than just a little irony in the sermon that Mrs Snagsby takes to be literal truth, directly applicable to her faulty perception of reality. What a comedy show! A victim of her own imagination and jealousy, Mrs Snagsby interprets preacher Chadband's words as a revelation of her husband’s infidelity, which leads to her total collapse during a sermon, completely inexplicable to the rest of the assembled community:
"Finally,becoming cataleptic, she has to be carried up the staircase like a grand piano."
Meanwhile, Mr Snagsby, "trampled and crushed in the pianoforte removal", hides in the drawing-room. What a marriage!
The linguistic pleasure of reading Dickens should not be underestimated either. His vocabulary is diverse, rich, and sophisticated, but he does not shy away from repeating the same word over and over again, if he thinks it has a comical effect and suits the story line. He was clearly on a mission to ridicule the habit of having missions, when he introduced a whole society of different do-gooders who were absorbed in their own commitments and oblivious of the existence of anything outside their narrow field of vision:
"One other singularity was, that nobody with a mission - except Mr Quale, whose mission, I think I have formerly said, was to be in ecstasies with everybody's mission - cared at all for anybody's mission.""
As always, Dickens has a special place in his heart for his minor characters, and fills them with so much intensity that they could easily lead the whole plot. A favourite example is the Bagnet marriage. Mr Bagnet, knowing that his wife is a better judge of situations than he is himself, and worth more than her weight in gold, has a habit of letting her express "his" ideas whenever he is consulted about anything, for it is important to him that the appearance of marital authority is maintained:
"Old girl", murmurs Mr Bagnet, "give him another bit of my mind."
And then there is sweet, crazy Ms Flite, who sums up the tragedy of her family in a few lines of incredible suggestive power, showing the effect of long law suits on the dynamics of generations of people living in suspense and frustration:
"First, our father was drawn - slowly. Home was drawn with him. In a few years, he was a fierce, sour, angry bankrupt, without a kind word or kind look for anyone. [...] He was drawn to debtor's prison. There he died. Then our brother was drawn - swiftly - to drunkenness. And rags. And death. Then my sister was drawn. Hush! Never ask to what!"
Ms Flite herself is also completely guided by Jarndyce and Jarndyce in every aspect of her life. She follows the suit in Chancery almost like a contemporary woman would watch the interminable episodes of EastEnders, always expecting a "judgment", despite knowing that the ultimate purpose of the show is to keep the actors and producers busy, and the spectators in excitement. She cries when the show finally wraps up and she sets free her birds, named after the passions that constituted the essence of Jarndyce and Jarndyce.
That’s it for now? No wait, there is more!
Dickens is also a master of special effects, almost cinematic in nature:
"Everybody starts. For a gun is fired nearby.
"Good gracious, what's that?" cries Volumnia, with her little withered scream.
"A rat," says My Lady. "And they have shot him."
Enter Mr Tulkinghorn, ..."
And this shot turns out to be one of foreboding, for nothing happens without purpose and connection in Dickens’ world, and the story turns into a murder mystery. The man whose specialty was using secrets to control others finds his end with a bullet in his cold heart. What a good thing that Hercule Poirot has a worthy predecessor in Mr Bucket, who has the immeasurable advantage of being married to Miss Marple.
That’s it, now, finally? No! I can’t leave Dickens to tie up loose ends and make his surviving characters lead the lives they deserve, without mentioning the little boy who broke my heart:
"Jo is brought in. He is not one of Mrs Pardiggle's Tockahoopo Indians; he is not one of Mrs Jellyby's lambs, being wholly unconnected with Boorioboola-Gha; [...]; he is the ordinary home-made article. Dirty, ugly, disagreeable to all the senses, only in soul a heathen."
The description of how that illiterate, starving child’s heart stopped beating is one of the most touching moments in the whole story, along with the haughty, elegant Sir Leicester’s love and anxiety over his disappeared wife. In Dickens’ world, pity is to be found in very different places!
That all?
Nope! But I will be quiet now anyway …
Just stealing a phrase from Oliver Twist, and applying it to Dickens’ novels rather than food:
“Please, Sir, I want some more!”
But don’t take it literally, especially not when reading the title of Bleak House. For Dickens also requires you to read between the lines, and letters, just like in an acrostic poem:
BLEAK HOUSE
Lovely characters
Elegant prose
Agonising cliffhangers
Knowledgeable descriptions
Humorous plot
Outrageous social conditions
Unusual dual narrative
Suits in Chancery
Everlasting favourite
Yes, Christmas is approaching, it’s Dickens time. I spent it in Chancery this year. And what can I say? Bravo Dickens? No, I stole that Thackeray phrase for David Copperfield last year already! Bravissimo, you fulfilled every single one of my great expectations, as did Great Expectations? Yes, ...
I will just say a simple: “Thank you, Sir!”
I have spent delightful hours in the company of good and bad, funny and passionate, silly and intelligent characters, brought to life in inimitable prose. Where else can I laugh and cry and bite my nails at the same time, while bowing to the elegance of the sentences that follow each other like pearls on one of Lady Dedlock’s more expensive necklaces? Where else can I hate and feel compassion, and wonder at the immense difference between my contemporary world and the London society of Dickens’ times,- and yet recognise it anyway, for being almost identical? For could not Dickens’ short comment on the state of British politics have been heading a newspaper article in 2016, just as well:
“England has been in a dreadful state for some weeks. Lord Coodle would go out, Sir Thomas Doodle wouldn’t come in, and there being nobody in Great Britain (to speak of) except Coodle and Doodle, there has been no Government.”
Following my reading itinerary, from start to finish, I realise how much I grew to love the many characters, all different, but equally at home in the Bleak House chocolate box, some nutty, some sweet, some rather plain, others exotic. In the end, they all lived up to my expectations, from the very first encounter with the complicated lawsuit of Jarndyce and Jarndyce, which gives the novel its unique flavour:
"In which (I would say) every difficulty, every contingency, every masterly fiction, every form of procedure known in that court, is represented over and over again?"
And what a range of characters I met, circling around the two stable elements of Mr John Jarndyce and Miss Esther Summerson, a young woman who shares the narration of the story with an omniscient voice, so that the narrative is swapping back and forth between her personal experience and impersonal overarching description.
Some characters, like Skimpole, get away with sponging ruthlessly on others because of their presumed innocence:
"All he asked of society was, to let him live. That wasn't much. His wants were few. Give him the papers, conversation, music, mutton, coffee, landscape, fruit in the season, a few sheets of Bristol-board, and a little claret, and he asked no more."
It is not as innocent as that of course, as the story will tell!
Many characters have reason to be frustrated, and Bleak House inspired me to rename my workroom as well, in honour of John Jarndyce’s favourite place:
"This, you must know, is the Growlery, When I am out of humour I come and growl here. [...] The Growlery is the best-used room in the house."
There is no one like Dickens to introduce the reader to a love story in the making, simply by changing the tone used to add a small piece of information at the end of a long chapter on something completely unrelated:
"I have forgotten to mention - at least I have not mentioned - that Mr Woodcourt was the same dark young surgeon whom we had met at Mr Badger's. Or, that Mr Jarndyce invited him to dinner that day. Or, that he came."
Another favourite feature in Dickens’ novels is the punny sense of humour that appears over and over again, and shows off both his talent for and his pleasure at playing with words for their own sake, as well as his mastery when it comes to giving all his characters their own stage time, beautifully shown in the following short lesson in mental geometry and verbal comedy:
"But I trusted to things coming round."
That very popular trust in flat things coming round! Not in their being beaten round, or worked round, but in their 'coming' round! As though a lunatic should trust in the world's 'coming' triangular!
"I had confident expectations that things would come round and be all square", says Mr Jobling."
Sociologists must love Dickens too. There is more than just a little irony in the sermon that Mrs Snagsby takes to be literal truth, directly applicable to her faulty perception of reality. What a comedy show! A victim of her own imagination and jealousy, Mrs Snagsby interprets preacher Chadband's words as a revelation of her husband’s infidelity, which leads to her total collapse during a sermon, completely inexplicable to the rest of the assembled community:
"Finally,becoming cataleptic, she has to be carried up the staircase like a grand piano."
Meanwhile, Mr Snagsby, "trampled and crushed in the pianoforte removal", hides in the drawing-room. What a marriage!
The linguistic pleasure of reading Dickens should not be underestimated either. His vocabulary is diverse, rich, and sophisticated, but he does not shy away from repeating the same word over and over again, if he thinks it has a comical effect and suits the story line. He was clearly on a mission to ridicule the habit of having missions, when he introduced a whole society of different do-gooders who were absorbed in their own commitments and oblivious of the existence of anything outside their narrow field of vision:
"One other singularity was, that nobody with a mission - except Mr Quale, whose mission, I think I have formerly said, was to be in ecstasies with everybody's mission - cared at all for anybody's mission.""
As always, Dickens has a special place in his heart for his minor characters, and fills them with so much intensity that they could easily lead the whole plot. A favourite example is the Bagnet marriage. Mr Bagnet, knowing that his wife is a better judge of situations than he is himself, and worth more than her weight in gold, has a habit of letting her express "his" ideas whenever he is consulted about anything, for it is important to him that the appearance of marital authority is maintained:
"Old girl", murmurs Mr Bagnet, "give him another bit of my mind."
And then there is sweet, crazy Ms Flite, who sums up the tragedy of her family in a few lines of incredible suggestive power, showing the effect of long law suits on the dynamics of generations of people living in suspense and frustration:
"First, our father was drawn - slowly. Home was drawn with him. In a few years, he was a fierce, sour, angry bankrupt, without a kind word or kind look for anyone. [...] He was drawn to debtor's prison. There he died. Then our brother was drawn - swiftly - to drunkenness. And rags. And death. Then my sister was drawn. Hush! Never ask to what!"
Ms Flite herself is also completely guided by Jarndyce and Jarndyce in every aspect of her life. She follows the suit in Chancery almost like a contemporary woman would watch the interminable episodes of EastEnders, always expecting a "judgment", despite knowing that the ultimate purpose of the show is to keep the actors and producers busy, and the spectators in excitement. She cries when the show finally wraps up and she sets free her birds, named after the passions that constituted the essence of Jarndyce and Jarndyce.
That’s it for now? No wait, there is more!
Dickens is also a master of special effects, almost cinematic in nature:
"Everybody starts. For a gun is fired nearby.
"Good gracious, what's that?" cries Volumnia, with her little withered scream.
"A rat," says My Lady. "And they have shot him."
Enter Mr Tulkinghorn, ..."
And this shot turns out to be one of foreboding, for nothing happens without purpose and connection in Dickens’ world, and the story turns into a murder mystery. The man whose specialty was using secrets to control others finds his end with a bullet in his cold heart. What a good thing that Hercule Poirot has a worthy predecessor in Mr Bucket, who has the immeasurable advantage of being married to Miss Marple.
That’s it, now, finally? No! I can’t leave Dickens to tie up loose ends and make his surviving characters lead the lives they deserve, without mentioning the little boy who broke my heart:
"Jo is brought in. He is not one of Mrs Pardiggle's Tockahoopo Indians; he is not one of Mrs Jellyby's lambs, being wholly unconnected with Boorioboola-Gha; [...]; he is the ordinary home-made article. Dirty, ugly, disagreeable to all the senses, only in soul a heathen."
The description of how that illiterate, starving child’s heart stopped beating is one of the most touching moments in the whole story, along with the haughty, elegant Sir Leicester’s love and anxiety over his disappeared wife. In Dickens’ world, pity is to be found in very different places!
That all?
Nope! But I will be quiet now anyway …
Just stealing a phrase from Oliver Twist, and applying it to Dickens’ novels rather than food:
“Please, Sir, I want some more!”
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Reading Progress
April 17, 2016
–
Started Reading
April 17, 2016
– Shelved
April 17, 2016
– Shelved as:
1001-books-to-read-before-you-die
November 28, 2016
–
2.37%
"I have now, just like innocent Esther, for the first time heard of Jarndyce and Jarndyce:
"In which (I would say) every difficulty, every contingency, every masterly fiction, every form of procedure known in that court, is represented over and over again?"
Yes, Christmas is approaching, Dickens time. I'm in Chancery this year, after great expectations and hard times I'm taking my tradition to court."
page
18
"In which (I would say) every difficulty, every contingency, every masterly fiction, every form of procedure known in that court, is represented over and over again?"
Yes, Christmas is approaching, Dickens time. I'm in Chancery this year, after great expectations and hard times I'm taking my tradition to court."
November 30, 2016
–
8.16%
""All he asked of society was, to let him live. That wasn't much. His wants were few. Give him the papers, conversation, music, mutton, coffee, landscape, fruit in the season, a few sheets of Bristol-board, and a little claret, and he asked no more."
Delighted to have made the acquaintance of Skimpole!"
page
62
Delighted to have made the acquaintance of Skimpole!"
November 30, 2016
–
14.08%
"To all architects out there, please take note! Mr Jarndyce has what EVERYONE should have in their house. I am currently thinking of how to rearrange my workroom, for from now on, in honour of Dickens' sensible invention, it is going to be THE GROWLERY!
"This, you must know, is the Growlery, When I am out of humour I come and growl here. [...] The Growlery is the best-used room in the house.""
page
107
"This, you must know, is the Growlery, When I am out of humour I come and growl here. [...] The Growlery is the best-used room in the house.""
December 3, 2016
–
23.03%
"There is no one like Dickens to introduce the reader to a love story in the making, simply by changing the tone used to add a small piece of information at the end of a long chapter on something else:
"I have forgotten to mention - at least I have not mentioned - that Mr Woodcourt was the same dark young surgeon whom we had met at Mr Badger's. Or, that Mr Jarndyce invited him to dinner that day. Or, that he came.""
page
175
"I have forgotten to mention - at least I have not mentioned - that Mr Woodcourt was the same dark young surgeon whom we had met at Mr Badger's. Or, that Mr Jarndyce invited him to dinner that day. Or, that he came.""
December 4, 2016
–
28.42%
"Okay, so I am reading this Dickens with all the great expectations of six or seven other Dickenses under my belt. Love it immeasurably, and find myself in a continuous conspiracy mood: who is related to whom? Who is Esther's mother, for example? My current guess: the sad, sad lady Dedlock:
"But why her face should be, in a confused way, like a broken glass to me, in which I saw scraps of old remembrances, ...?""
page
216
"But why her face should be, in a confused way, like a broken glass to me, in which I saw scraps of old remembrances, ...?""
December 5, 2016
–
31.58%
"A short lesson in mental geometry is included in the plot:
"But I trusted to things coming round."
That very popular trust in flat things coming round! Not in their being beaten round, or worked round, but in their 'coming' round! As though a lunatic should trust in the world's 'coming' triangular!
"I had confident expectations that things would come round and be all square", says Mr Jobling."
page
240
"But I trusted to things coming round."
That very popular trust in flat things coming round! Not in their being beaten round, or worked round, but in their 'coming' round! As though a lunatic should trust in the world's 'coming' triangular!
"I had confident expectations that things would come round and be all square", says Mr Jobling."
December 6, 2016
–
40.92%
"It takes Dickens and his hidden agenda to make me laugh tears during a sermon! Silly Mrs Snagsby, a victim of her own imagination and jealousy, interprets Chadband's words in a very personal way, leading to unexpected collapse:
"Finally,becoming cataleptic, she has to be carried up the staircase like a grand piano."
Meanwhile, Mr Snagsby, "trampled and crushed in the pianoforte removal", hides in the drawing-room."
page
311
"Finally,becoming cataleptic, she has to be carried up the staircase like a grand piano."
Meanwhile, Mr Snagsby, "trampled and crushed in the pianoforte removal", hides in the drawing-room."
December 7, 2016
–
47.63%
"It seems to me that Dickens is on a mission to ridicule the habit of having missions, as they seem to reduce interest in the diversity of the world to a minimum while maximising the missionaries' self-importance:
"One other singularity was, that nobody with a mission - except Mr Quale, whose mission, I think I have formerly said, was to be in ecstasies with everybody's mission - cared at all for anybody's mission.""
page
362
"One other singularity was, that nobody with a mission - except Mr Quale, whose mission, I think I have formerly said, was to be in ecstasies with everybody's mission - cared at all for anybody's mission.""
December 7, 2016
–
53.95%
"As always, Dickens has a heart for his minor characters, and fills them with so much intensity that they could easily lead the whole plot. A favourite example is the Bagnet marriage. Mr Bagnet, knowing that his wife is a better judge of situations, but wanting marital authority to be maintained, has a habit of letting her express "his" ideas:
"Old girl", murmurs Mr Bagnet, "give him another bit of my mind.""
page
410
"Old girl", murmurs Mr Bagnet, "give him another bit of my mind.""
December 8, 2016
–
58.16%
"Sweet, crazy Ms Flite on her family drawn into Chancery, a social study:
"First, our father was drawn - slowly. Home was drawn with him. In a few years, he was a fierce, sour, angry bankrupt, without a kind word or kind look for anyone. [...] He was drawn to debtor's prison. There he died. Then our brother was drawn - swiftly - to drunkenness. And rags. And death. Then my sister was drawn. Hush! Never ask to what!""
page
442
"First, our father was drawn - slowly. Home was drawn with him. In a few years, he was a fierce, sour, angry bankrupt, without a kind word or kind look for anyone. [...] He was drawn to debtor's prison. There he died. Then our brother was drawn - swiftly - to drunkenness. And rags. And death. Then my sister was drawn. Hush! Never ask to what!""
December 9, 2016
–
64.47%
"Between his long, elaborate and witty descriptions, Dickens manages to insert almost movie-like, impressionistic effects to establish relationships without addressing them explicitly:
"Everybody starts. For a gun is fired nearby.
"Good gracious, what's that?" cries Volumnia, with her little withered scream.
"A rat," says My Lady. "And they have shot him."
Enter Mr Tulkinghorn, ..."
And he delivers his ratty speech!"
page
490
"Everybody starts. For a gun is fired nearby.
"Good gracious, what's that?" cries Volumnia, with her little withered scream.
"A rat," says My Lady. "And they have shot him."
Enter Mr Tulkinghorn, ..."
And he delivers his ratty speech!"
December 9, 2016
–
72.63%
"Dickens had a heart for the illiterate, starving children he made come alive in his fiction, who died in London's slums every day:
"Jo is brought in. He is not one of Mrs Pardiggle's Tockahoopo Indians; he is not one of Mrs Jellyby's lambs, being wholly unconnected with Boorioboola-Gha; [...]; he is the ordinary home-made article. Dirty, ugly, disagreeable to all the senses, only in soul a heathen."
RIP, little Jo."
page
552
"Jo is brought in. He is not one of Mrs Pardiggle's Tockahoopo Indians; he is not one of Mrs Jellyby's lambs, being wholly unconnected with Boorioboola-Gha; [...]; he is the ordinary home-made article. Dirty, ugly, disagreeable to all the senses, only in soul a heathen."
RIP, little Jo."
December 9, 2016
–
72.76%
"After my sorrow at seeing poor little Jo die, I have to stay on to reflect a moment on Mrs Flite before saying goodnight to Dickens for today:
She follows the suit in Chancery almost like a contemporary woman would watch the interminable episodes of EastEnders, always expecting a "judgement", despite knowing the ultimate purpose of the show is to keep the actors and producers busy, and the spectators in excitement."
page
553
She follows the suit in Chancery almost like a contemporary woman would watch the interminable episodes of EastEnders, always expecting a "judgement", despite knowing the ultimate purpose of the show is to keep the actors and producers busy, and the spectators in excitement."
December 11, 2016
–
80.0%
"The shot that echoed in the house of Lady Dedlock in an earlier chapter was one of foreboding, and the story has now turned into a murder mystery. The man whose specialty was using secrets to control others found his end with a bullet in his cold heart.
Sir Leicester speaks ominous words on the murder:
"If it were my brother who had committed it, I would not spare him."
I don't suspect your brother, Sir, but..."
page
608
Sir Leicester speaks ominous words on the murder:
"If it were my brother who had committed it, I would not spare him."
I don't suspect your brother, Sir, but..."
December 11, 2016
–
84.74%
"I know Whodunnit, but I ain't a-tellin' ya!
Let's just say that Hercule Poirot has a worthy predecessor in Mr Bucket, and he has the immeasurable advantage of being married to Miss Marple!"
page
644
Let's just say that Hercule Poirot has a worthy predecessor in Mr Bucket, and he has the immeasurable advantage of being married to Miss Marple!"
December 12, 2016
–
95.26%
"Arrrggghhhh!!
He gets me every single time! I KNOW beforehand he is going to make sure there is a lot of heartfelt surprise and melodramatic change in the end in order for all to be happy. But still, after so many days with the characters, I am touched, and teary-eyed, and happy and sad at the same time.
Wrapping up and moving out of The Growlery tonight!"
page
724
He gets me every single time! I KNOW beforehand he is going to make sure there is a lot of heartfelt surprise and melodramatic change in the end in order for all to be happy. But still, after so many days with the characters, I am touched, and teary-eyed, and happy and sad at the same time.
Wrapping up and moving out of The Growlery tonight!"
December 13, 2016
– Shelved as:
favorites
December 13, 2016
– Shelved as:
unforgettable
December 13, 2016
–
Finished Reading
September 29, 2017
– Shelved as:
charles-dickens
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I am very happy to hear that, Mohamad! I will be looking for your comments!
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That is now a "Must-Visit" for me. And I will have to drag my family with me as well, for a nice Dickens picture! It actually looks quite a lot like I imagined it. The writing desk would have been in Mr Jarndyce's Growlery!
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And as to Ilse wrote above – I have a photo of me and Dickens, well only from Madame Tussauds, but hey, I like it a lot : )
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Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious review!
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Disagree with you about Jo - his death has come close to making me laugh - way, to over the top, plainly Dickens cut the word 'subtle' out of his dictionary and threw it on the fire! He will bludgeon the reader given a chance...
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But the melodrama in Bleak House is more than balanced by all the delicious subplots and minor characters. Speaking of which, Lisa, what a pleasure it was to follow your guided tour of the entire book. And me who thought I loved the minor characters best of all discovered I'd forgotten quite a few of them!
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Disagree with you about Jo - his death has come close to making me laugh - way, to over the top, plainly D..."
I am happy to disagree with you on Jo, Jan-Maat. I loved his "I don't know nothing" so much, and for me, he was a symbol for all those children who were too poor to survive in the harsh urban conditions of fully developed 19th century industrial societies. But I see your point. We followed every heartbeat in the end.
As for Esther, I enjoyed her narrative style a lot. But she falls into the category "too good" for my literary taste. Not one single flaw. No conflict, nothing. A bit of drama regarding the discovery of her mother, or her loss of beauty or her engagement with a man she respects but does not love, would have done her character some good. Reminded me of a fairy tale princess rather than a 19th century woman. I still liked her. She just did not engage me very much. I liked her mother better, despite her haughty appearance. There was a wild heart underneath the facade.
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But the melodrama in Bleak House is more than balanced by all the delicious subplots and minor characters. Speaking of which, Lisa, what a pleasure it ..."
Actually that was the reason I made sure to mention all my favourites. I suspect they will fade somewhat in my memory as well, and I want to be able to go back and check on them, and tuck them safely back into my memory!
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I will be eager to follow your updates on Bleak House then, Agnieszka! The funny thing is, there is so much to point out and mention that we can all add updates and they are very likely to be different :-)
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It also occurs to me that, given the highly edifying and entertaining nature of your reviews, you should give up your current means of employment and set yourself to writing for a living. But then, I recall the nature of your vocation and would not want to deprive your students. So carry on as you are. A great review Lisa.
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Oh, thank you, RK-ique! That really touched me quite deeply. Especially as I have (temporarily, maybe, and with a VERY heavy heart) left teaching, to find a better way to balance passion and belief in education and the harsh realities of our present school system.
As my future is quite undefined at the moment, your encouragement means all the more to me!
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Yes, Julie! I am all with you on that one. I just don't buy into that perfect angelic attitude. I don't even admire it. Get yelling and screaming, lady. I was particularly angry at her for not doing anything about her engagement to Mr Jarndyce when she realised that Woodcourt loved her. No, out of duty, she would have made herself - and Jarndyce, and Woodcourt - eternal victims of her "thankfulness", if Jarndyce and Woodcourt themselves had not conspired to change the situation. Meh...
Oh wow, I think I felt quite strongly about that...
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As you say Dickens is timeless despite being rooted in his era. The passage about England running to ratshit (I paraphrase) caused a rueful smile.
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As my future is quite undefined at the moment, your encouragement means all the more to me! ."
what about Finland? Isn't their system quite well regarded, even from the point of view of the children - forget the UK, apart from any other reasons Sweden is possibly still regarded as something of an educational role model
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I think it has some symbolical value to discuss the Swedish school system in a comment thread on "Bleak House", Jan-Maat.
Without going into details, which would require me to write another PhD thesis, Sweden suffers from an unusual illness: a better reputation than it deserves.
The world is happy to stay convinced that there is still one utopia of a perfect society somewhere, and continues to praise Sweden without any factual basis. Swedes themselves, especially those who have never left the country other than to travel to hotels catering only to Scandinavian needs, are more than willing to believe it themselves.
That leaves a very small group of returning ex-pat Swedes (like myself) and stranded foreigners (most of my friends) to know the extent of the Swedish school disaster.
Dickens could have written a great comic novel on the mistakes, the carelessness, stupidity and plain laziness, as well as the audacious social experiments that went all wrong, over and over again, over decades, only to be continued regardless.
Barnexperimentet: svensk skola i fritt fall is an attempt at an honest evaluation of the catastrophe, but strongly politically biased.
I trygghetsnarkomanernas land or Det var inte mitt fel! Om konsten att ta ansvar. or Drabbad Av Sverige are all very good books to describe different aspects of the development of Swedish mentality, which is nurtured in and forced upon the entire population over the course of the 12 years of school and 5 years of preschool that Swedes go through before adulthood.
About Finland, I will honestly say that I do not know enough to give a qualified answer. I know the German, French, UK, US and international school curricula better, and all of them are better suited to make children learn.
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Thank you Violet! We share those two Dickens favourites...
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As you say Dickens is timeless despite being rooted in his era. The passage about England running to ratshit (I paraphrase) caused a rueful smile."
And your paraphrasing made me smile, Ray! Thank you!
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Perhaps you should be writing :-)
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That is so true, RK-ique. We need to be able to see that what we are doing has a purpose and meaning in order to happily face the day-to-day business, otherwise it feels like being Don Quixote fighting windmills, - when the East wind is blowing, as Mr Jarndyce in Bleak House would say before disappearing in The Growlery!
Luckily, there is art and literature.
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Thanks! It is quite a journey to read a whole Dickens novel, I agree!
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Thank you, John! Bleak House is my favourite Dickens at the moment, but knowing myself, I will change my mind again when starting another one.
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After some time of extracting myself again from my complete obsession with Bleak House, I am willing to admit to loving David Copperfield (almost) as much. But I think you should try this one, Ken. It is special in the Dickensian cosmos, despite also being very typical! I can't decide whether my next should be Our Mutual Friend or Pickwick Papers.
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It's my favourite as well, Eleanor! But I change all the time, depending on which one I read last!
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Inventive and engaging.
Knowing, too.
Exceptional experiences!"
Thank you, Steve! Isn't it a special pleasure to think in acrostic poems? My daughter produces them for all occasions :-)
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"no wait, there is more!" - like a late-night TV ShamWOW commercial in the US.
And i'm calling the architect tomorrow about where we can add on a Growlery. Long overdue.
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"no wait, there is more!" - like a late-night TV ShamWOW commercial in the US.
And i'm calling the architect tomorrow about where we can add on a Growler..."
Yes! In times like these, a Growlery should be added to all houses just like kitchen and bathroom!
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"no wait, there is more!" - like a late-night TV ShamWOW commercial in the US.
And i'm calling the architect tomorrow about where we can a..."
Brilliant. An ordinance like that just might save some grumpy marriages.
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"no wait, there is more!" - like a late-night TV ShamWOW commercial in the US.
And i'm calling the architect tomorrow about w..."
Indeed! I think it will end up more effective and affordable than therapy as well. A long-term solution...
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"no wait, there is more!" - like a late-night TV ShamWOW commercial in the US.
And i'm calling the architect t..."
yes, yes. why is it that we don't run the world?
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I'm very interested in your brief comment about the Swedish school system. Is there anything in English on this topic of 'it's not perfect'?
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I'm very interested in your brief comment about the Swedish school system. Is there anything in English on this topic of 'it'..."
Thank you, Caroline! I haven't seen any serious evaluation of the Swedish school system in English. You will find some articles (most of them vague and inaccurate). The world likes to believe in Sweden's good school, and doesn't ask for the facts :-)
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Thank you, Barbara! I felt exactly the same!
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I adore your literary loves, Lisa. This review is full of unwavering affection that would not falter even under the bleakest Victorian conditions. Reading you? Delectation through and through.