User talk:MILEPRI

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Cytisus

Hello. I will be working on some of your your pages in Cytisus to bring them more in line with the references. This may mean pages are moved to Chamaecytisus, as an example see Chamaecytisus ratisbonensis. Hope all is well. Andyboorman (talk) 15:56, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

OK. Saludos MILEPRI (talk) 16:03, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Hola

Hola gran MILEPRI, tienes muchas contribuciones y ediciones que admiro; una consulta cuáles son las 5 especies con más sinónimos que existen en el reino Plantae, Animalia, etc. como por ejemplo: Astragalus condensatus. Me interesa saber esa información. Muchas gracias, bendiciones y éxitos Santi Chuco (talk) 18:10, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

No llevo estadística de las páginas que hago, pero en la relación de opciones que hay en la izquierda de la página, puede pinchar en (Páginas especiales) donde tienen múltiples estadísticas de las páginas editadas. Saludos MILEPRI (talk) 18:22, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Ipomoea

Hello. Please note that sections are no longer recommended for this genus. Thanks. Andyboorman (talk) 18:05, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

OK- Saludos MILEPRI (talk) 18:08, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Autonym

Hello, also @ShakespeareFan00: you can not have an autonym as a stand alone taxon. It is always automatically created when a subgenus, subspecies, variety etc. is described. See Sasa veitchii as an example of a mistake that needs correcting, Andyboorman (talk) 08:32, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

I do not understand what he wants to tell me. I enter Sasa veitchii but I can't find the error it indicates. Could you clarify it for me?. Saludos MILEPRI (talk) 08:44, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

The two varieties used to redirect to the autonym - not allowed under ICN. I blanked the pages they need valid content - see PWO. Andyboorman (talk) 08:51, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

OK. Saludos. MILEPRI (talk) 08:56, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

All I was doing was attempting to pair italics. Can you give a more specific diff so I am correcting in the right way? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:08, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: You did nothing wrong. the problem was varieties redirecting to an autonym. Andyboorman (talk) 12:08, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

I recommend you see Brummitt (2001) till you get accustomed

I regret to tell you that many distribution data you have added are wrong in continental codes and regional ones. As {{nadi}} cites Brummitt (2001), we have to follow his entire scheme carefully. I have not notify you this issue until today since I thought you might have already noticed this point by yourself. However, this incident obliged me to talk to you this time. To be honest, even I do not remember the entire scheme; I do Africa (except for Northern Africa), Asia-Temperate (partially, such as Mongolia, Eastern Asia), Asia-Tropical, Australasia, Pacific and Southern America (except for Southern South America). As for continents such as Europe, however, I have no confidence at all and I would consult Brummitt (2001) if I have to compile some European taxa. I hope this will help you. Sincerely, Eryk Kij (talk) 10:35, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice. MILEPRI (talk) 10:41, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Gnaphaliinae

I have added genera to Gnaphaliinae. I notice that you are updating the genera and you could modify the templates to reflect the subtribe see Acanthocladium (Asteraceae). Thanks Andyboorman (talk) 15:47, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

OK Gracias.

Antennaria

I have had to reverse your recent edit on this genus as, although well meaning, they have resulted in a lot of errors. See Antennaria monocephala subsp. monocephala as an example. I suggest that you review the accepted species using PWO not TPLF and also remember to add autonyms were appropriate. Best regards. Andyboorman (talk) 13:28, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

I do not understand what he wants to imply, since I made this species in 2018 and although I have modified the accepted species of the genus, I have not yet reached this taxon to make the pertinent modifications. For your information I will tell you that I use PWO for the new pages that I edit. I await your news so as not to make mistakes. Saludos MILEPRI (talk) 17:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Image

Please do not use the template Image on any taxon except species. Thanks. Andyboorman (talk) 19:53, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

I must understand that I should not use the images in taxa of families, tribes etc.? Saludos MILEPRI (talk) 20:10, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Images are fine, if labelled with a link to its taxon. The {{Image}} template only adds the taxon page name as a label. Hope this helps. Andyboorman (talk) 16:32, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Now I understand what you mean. OKAY. Saludos MILEPRI (talk) 16:59, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Hola

Hola, gran MILEPRI, una consulta, cuáles son los 3 países con más especies de plantas en el mundo. Me interesa saber esa información. Muchas gracias, bendiciones y éxitos. Santi Chuco (talk) 00:47, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

@Santi Chuco:. Lamento decirle que no tengo esa información, pruebe a buscar en google, que seguro que encontrará algo. Saludos.--MILEPRI (talk) 07:31, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Amyema ferruginiflora (W.Fitzg.) Danser in Bull. Jard. Bot. Buitenzorg, sér. 3, 10: 295 (1929)

Why are you making pages with names like the above then labelling them for speedy deletion? Saludos Andyboorman (talk) 19:01, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

When carrying out the redirection of the synonyms automatically, on some occasions an error occurs that I quickly correct, for which I have to delete the above. Saludos. MILEPRI (talk) 21:43, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

OK so a move is not possible. Thanks Andyboorman (talk) 15:17, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Lycopodiaceae

Note that the generic lumping of Christenhusz et al. is followed by POWO but not by the vast majority of pteridologists and not by Hassler, Worldplants. I would prefer, too, to let the genera as they are. --RLJ (talk) 16:15, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Gracias,. OK. Saludos.--MILEPRI (talk) 16:18, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Vernacular Names

Hello I do not think it is appropriate to add vernacular names that are straight translations of the taxon page name. The category should be reserved for distinctly vernacular/local names. This is explained to the Help Section. Thanks. Andyboorman (talk) 13:41, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Orphans

You are creating orphans in Hibiscus - see here. Please can you fix them by redirecting or deleting. Thanks and please keep up the productive updates! Andyboorman (talk) 18:56, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Three more Parasenecio aidzuensis Parasenecio nantaicus Parasenecio tschonoskii. Have look down the orphan pages. Any problems let me knoe. Andyboorman (talk) 19:31, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Eponyms

Hello MILEPRI, what source(s) do you use to add the "Eponyms of" categories? Do you add them by deduction? If so, it is not always correct. For information, I corrected several categories: [1], [2], [3].

Since you created the category Category:Eponyms of Fernando Höck and added it to the different (redirect) taxon pages, could you please take a look at Category talk:Eponyms of Fernando Höck? (It was mentioned at Wikispecies:Village Pump#Eponyms of Fernando Höck). The person behind the IP address seems to be the same one who left a comment at Category talk:Eponyms of James Alexander Brewer a few weeks ago. Thanks, Korg (talk) 21:27, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Fernando Höck's eponyms appear in: [4] MILEPRI (talk) 05:44, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Please be more careful with eponyms! Most of the species you added to Category:Eponyms of William Chambers Coker were indeed named for Robert Ervin Coker. --Thiotrix (talk) 08:26, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Gracias por su informacion. Saludos. :::MILEPRI (talk) 08:28, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. In the article on the Spanish Wikipedia, I do not see any references about the eponyms; the references cited only concern taxon names and the respective publications, which can also be found in IPNI. I note that the list of eponyms was added by es:Usuario:Rosarinagazo; I've already noticed several errors added by this user ([5], [6], [7]), so I have doubts about the information they have added.

Of the 8 names in Category:Eponyms of Fernando Höck, 5 are not listed in the article on the Spanish Wikipedia: Brachystegia hockii, Flemingia hockii, Maughania hockii, Sporobolus hockii and Thespesia hockii. I checked the original publications, and the IP user is right: all taxon names in the category are named for Adrien Hock.

• Brachystegia hockii De Wild., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 11: 512 (1913). BHL — "Ober-Katanga: Haut-Katanga, 1911 (Ad. Hock)."
• Bupariti hockii (De Wild.) Rothm. → Thespesia hockii De Wild., Bull. Jard. Bot. État Bruxelles 3: 266 (1911). BHL — "Vallée de la petite Luembe (Katanga), février 1910 (A. Hock)."
• Maughania hockii (De Wild.) H.L.Li → Flemingia hockii De Wild., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 11: 535 (1913). BHL — p. 536: "Ober-Katanga: Élisabethville, septembre 1911 (Ad. Hock)."
• Ipomoea hockii De Wild., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 11: 539 (1913). BHL — "Ober-Katanga: Plateau de la Manika, octobre 1911 (Ad. Hock)."
• Moraea hockii De Wild., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 11: 540 (1913). BHL — "Ober-Katanga: Entre Bugege et Lukoni, 1911 (Ad. Hock)."
• Sporobolus hockii De Wild., Notes Fl. Katanga v. 17 (Ann. Soc. Sc. Brux. xxxix. Mem. 139 (1920). BHL — p. 140: "Vallée de la Petite Luembe, février 1910 (Ad. Hock)."

At Category talk:Eponyms of James Alexander Brewer, you said "I have deleted them all", but the category is not empty. Can you please have another look? Thanks again. Korg (talk) 09:38, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Indeed I took wrong data, I have already deleted these pages. Thanks for your information. MILEPRI (talk) 16:53, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Gracias! I have removed the incorrect eponyms from Category:Eponyms of Fernando Höck, and added Category:Eponyms of William Henry Brewer to Angelica breweri, Arabis breweri and Juncus breweri (changes).

For information, here are two references for eponyms (that cover genus names) that you might find useful:

{{Burkhardt, 2018}}

• Burkhardt, L. 2018. Verzeichnis eponymischer Pflanzennamen - Erweiterte Edition. [Index of Eponymic Plant Names - Extended Edition. Index de Noms éponymiques des Plantes - Édition augmentée.] Berlin: Botanic Garden and Botanical Museum Berlin, Freie Universität Berlin. Teil I: 1220 pp.; Teil II: 1296 pp. (German) ISBN 978-3-946292-26-5. DOI: 10.3372/epolist2018

{{Burkhardt, 2022}}

• Burkhardt, L. 2022. Eine Enzyklopädie zu eponymischen Pflanzennamen: Von Menschen & ihren Pflanzen. Berlin: Botanic Garden and Botanical Museum Berlin, Freie Universität Berlin. (German) ISBN 978-3-946292-41-8. DOI: 10.3372/epolist2022

I've listed them at Category talk:Eponyms. Saludos, Korg (talk) 21:40, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Be careful

Please use HOM template for Homonyms not === Homonym === and place them outside the taxonomic data, either before nadi or afterwards. You are producing atypical taxon page formats. Thanks. Andyboorman (talk) 18:10, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

I was already warned about this template and since then I changed it to ==Homonyns==, always out of synonyms. MILEPRI (talk) 18:48, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Who warned you not to use template HOM? It is an accepted template and used by most editors. I will post an inquiry on the Pump. Best Regards Andyboorman (talk) 07:53, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

El aviso me los proporcionó Vd mismo en aqui. Lo de no incluirlo en sinónimos lo comprendí perfectamente, pero lo del template fue mal interpretado. Gracias por avisarme del error. Saludos. MILEPRI (talk) 08:08, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

No problems, there is a discussion on the Pump, at the moment. Andyboorman (talk) 13:15, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Argyrodendron

I am contacting Kew about changing the status for the above as a synonym of Heritiera. I think they will agree based upon the references I have just added. Meanwhile I suggest you do not create taxon pages based upon this dispute until it is resolved. I will move those that you have created pending the changes. Sorry for any problems. Andyboorman (talk) 11:09, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Kew have confirmed that they are separate genera and will change POWO when the database is next updated. Regards. Andyboorman (talk) 17:09, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

OK. MILEPRI (talk) 17:18, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the wonderful edit to the page you recently edited, Stachyphrynium! Vanilla ( 🍧) 17:10, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Synonyms

Will you reverse to redirect on Melanthium hybridum, as Melanthium hybridum Walter, Fl. Carol.: 125 (1788) is an accepted combination? Andyboorman (talk) 19:01, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

La redirección fue realizada de forma automática desde Melanthium virginicum, cuando comience a editar la página la pondré como homónimo. Saludos. MILEPRI (talk) 19:37, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Melanthium hybridum Walter, Fl. Carol.: 125 (1788) is not a homonym, but Melanthium hybridum Elliott, Sketch Bot. S. Carolina 1: 419 (1817) and Melanthium hybridum Nutt., Gen. N. Amer. Pl. [Nuttall]. 1: 232 (1818) are! Andyboorman (talk) 20:16, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Ya ha sido confeccionada la página. Saludos. MILEPRI (talk) 08:25, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you nice page BTW! Andyboorman (talk) 10:05, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Formats

Please use the Wikispecies tools to get consistent formats that follow accepted practice. Thanks and kind regards. Andyboorman (talk) 19:56, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

PLease go back and correct your format errors on your recently edited taxon pages, for example [8]. Thank you. Andyboorman (talk) 08:30, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

OK. Gracias. MILEPRI (talk) 08:36, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi MILEPRI, you just added the section heading "Aditional references" with a spelling mistake: it should be "Additional references". You added several other section headings with this spelling error (search). Please correct them, and please correct your template if you use one. For information, the code ==={{int:Additional references}}=== can be found in the edit toolbox, below the edit window. Best regards, Korg (talk) 09:56, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

I appreciate your notice. It is already corrected. Saludos MILEPRI (talk) 10:05, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Tip of the day

If you add {{User:YOURNAME/common.css}} to your main page, it has the ability to highlight changes to taxon pages. For example I have set it up to let me know redirects as they are coloured green. It is useful when editing list of species and genera. I can then check to make sure for possible be homonyms. As an example Osbeckia leschenaultiana is both an accepted species and also a synonym depending on the author, according to POWO. Regards Andyboorman (talk) 14:25, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Ya ha sido instalado. Gracias por su ayuda. Saludos. MILEPRI (talk) 08:46, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

ING

Hello. I think you will find that ING is a link not additional reference. The later is mainly books, papers and the like. If you are using templates would it be possible to change it? Thanks Andyboorman (talk) 08:52, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Beware of creating orphans

I recently spent weeks dealing with orphan taxon pages created by me and others. I noticed you created two on Meriania. Please do not this, but if you do it is best to leave them on the taxon page as Unresolved Species unless you are absolutely certain of their status. OK it takes a bit more time and can not be easily automated, but it saves a lot of editing time and possibly lost names. Thanks Andyboorman (talk) 11:31, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

nadi

Something has gone wrong recently with your formats for the nadi template. You seem to be adding a ^ to Regional as well as placing it in bold not italics. See my edit on Microlicia selaginea as an example. Hope this helps. Andyboorman (talk) 11:03, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Also it would be ideal if you would use Regional: in its fullest and not use terms too broad a term for Continental. The guidance is in Brummitt. Andyboorman (talk) 11:51, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

@MILEPRI This time I regret to remind you of what I told you before. We have to conform to Brummitt's format, or refraining from use of {{nadi}} would be another choice. --Eryk Kij (talk) 16:40, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

@Andyboorman: Sorry to interrupt, but I have almost never seen the practice of Regional-italicization. Does it have any consensus? I always make it bold. --Eryk Kij (talk) 16:40, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

@Eryk Kij: Common practice by most editors over many years has Continental in bold and Regional in italics. But as nadi is an addition and not essential, I assume you can format as you wish. My point about origin is that if too vague it just becomes a collection of possibly geographically disconnected names. Andyboorman (talk) 18:04, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Another tip or two

A couple of friendly points. APD is a link not additional reference. Also be careful when creating redirects. A name could have homonyms and you may inadvertently create a redirect over an accepted name. Check for green coloured links on the list of species or genera. Best regards Andyboorman (talk) 11:47, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Page moves

Hi Milepri - please do not use cut-and-paste for page moves, as this breaks the page history. Only ever use the 'Move' tab (under 'More' in the action bar). Thanks! - MPF (talk) 22:05, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi MPF - I already use 'Move' when the destination page does not exist. I use the copy-paste when she is busy. I guess I should clear the page and then use 'Move'. I would appreciate it if you let me know if this is correct. Saludos. MILEPRI (talk) 07:22, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

I just use Move and then edit the original page, as required. It saves using the copy/paste and keeps the valuable edit history - just in case. I have learnt the hard way! Andyboorman (talk) 07:44, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Eponyms - 'Bon'

Please be careful before you add eponym categories to pages. I removed all of your edits claiming these names are attributed to Marcel Bon since all of the basionyms were published before 1925, i.e. Marcel's birth year, therefore DEFINITELY have nothing to do with him. Yes, categorization ALWAYS needs discretion to some extent. I have also given eponym categories by deduction sometimes, but always only after checking that birth year of person are before collection/publication date. We are always responsible for providing data. --Eryk Kij (talk) 09:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

thanks for your help. MILEPRI (talk) 09:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Links

I have asked a fellow admin to see whether or not they can run a bot to automatically change == Links == into === Links ===. The problem with the former is that it produces an unnecessary section break with an underline. Links are part of the References and do not require a separate section. In the mean time could we all please use === Links === as provided. Andyboorman (talk) 09:51, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

OK. Saludos MILEPRI (talk) 09:52, 21 October 2024 (UTC)