@CKoerner_WMF, can we get some outreach on this?

Ideally <mapframe> is going to use the same syntax (parameters, options / lat, lon, z, w, h, layer, marker, etc. ) as <slippymap>.

@MaxSem A few questions to better understand this change.

• Does this remove any features provided by <slippymap> (MapSources)?
• How much work are we asking Wikivoyager's to do to make this change?

I think writing something explaining the need for the change and posting it to the Traveler's Pub for the Wikivoyages would be a good first start. I can draft something up on Meta for translation and posting.

In T136768#2481827, @CKoerner_WMF wrote:

• Does this remove any features provided by <slippymap> (MapSources)?

<mapframe> already does much more than slippymap, and it supports custom layers for Wikivoyage.

• How much work are we asking Wikivoyager's to do to make this change?

It doesn't seem to be used much. Searching with [[ https://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&profile=all&fulltext=Search&search=insource%3Aslippymap | insource:slippymap ]] and [[ https://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&profile=all&fulltext=Search&search=insource%3Ageolink | insource:geolink ]] gives almost no results.

As Max said it looks like there are only a few instances where it is being used, primarily in Wikivoyage:Map_sources copies across the Wikivoyages.

They all contain the following use of slippymap:

<slippymap lat="{latdegdec}" lon="{londegdec}" z="{osmzoommap}" w="360" h="360" layer="Mapnik" marker="0" />

Examples:

https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Map_sources

https://ru.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Источники_карт

https://it.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Fonte_della_mappa

https://uk.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Вікімандри:Джерела_карт

https://fr.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Sources_de_cartes

Since these appear to be nearly identical am I correct that theMapframe syntax would look something like this?

{{Mapframe|{latdegdec}|{londegdec}|{osmzoommap}|height=360|width=360|layer=W}}

I'm not sure of the exact syntax. Is this more complicated than I'm understanding? Some help would be appreciated.

If that's the change that is needed, I think posting a request on the talk pages for each instance asking for approval to make the change would suffice. We could follow up in a few days for those that did not have any objections, but were not bothered to make a change.

{{mapframe}} is a template that's not guaranteed to be present everywhere or function the same. A direct syntax should be used: <mapframe latitude="{latdegdec}" longitude="{londegdec}" zoom="{osmzoommap}" width="360" height="360" />

Btw, now <slippymap> is present only in MapSources templates.

Oops German Wikivoyage has in the meantime been migrated [[ https://de.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Vorlage%3AOpenStreetMap&type=revision&diff=944128&oldid=798211 | from slippymap to the {{mapframe}} template ]]. But this involves Scribunto and such. Perhaps this is as good.

I've attempted it on en: https://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Wikivoyage:Map_sources&diff=prev&oldid=3039387

Oops, turns out to catch everything you need to search for insource:/slippymap/. I've made a pass through projects' MapSources templates, and here's what's left, mostly with low usage:

https://el.wikivoyage.org/wiki/%CE%95%CE%B9%CE%B4%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8C:%CE%A4%CE%B9%CE%A3%CF%85%CE%BD%CE%B4%CE%AD%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%95%CE%B4%CF%8E/%CE%A0%CF%81%CF%8C%CF%84%CF%85%CF%80%CE%BF:OpenStreetMap
https://nl.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Sjabloon:OpenStreetMap
https://fr.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:OpenStreetMap
https://it.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Fonte_della_mappa (protected)
https://it.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Template:OpenStreetMap
https://es.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Plantilla:OpenStreetMap (medium usage)
https://es.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Plantilla:Ficha_de_entidad_subnacional (medium usage)
https://vi.wikivoyage.org/wiki/B%E1%BA%A3n_m%E1%BA%ABu:OpenStreetMap (broken anyway)

The code I used was:

{{#tag:mapframe|
| latitude={{#iferror:{{#expr:{latdegdec}+0}}|0|{latdegdec} }}
| longitude={{#iferror:{{#expr:{londegdec}+0}}|0|{londegdec} }}
| zoom={{#iferror:{{#expr:{osmzoommap}+0}}|0|{osmzoommap} }}
| width=360
| height=360
| frameless=
| align=center
}}

I propose that we set a hard removal date, publish in tech news and inform the affected communities.

Per discussion with Chris, I'm setting the sunset to the week of October 24th.

Draft message here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CKoerner_(WMF)/Slippymap_sunset

@MaxSem If this looks good to you I can ask for translation and post it to the talk pages of the pages you listed early next week.

Page marked for translation and a request made to volunteer translators for help. As I receive completed translations I'll post them to the respective wikis.

I have a few translations ready (Thank you translators!) and have posted the message on a few Wikivoyages.

Italian Wikivoyage

• https://it.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Discussioni_template:OpenStreetMap
• https://it.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Discussioni_Wikivoyage:Fonte_della_mappa

French Wikivoyage

• https://fr.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Discussion_modèle:OpenStreetMap#Modification_du_mod.C3.A8le_OpenStreetMap

I also added it to the next issue of Tech News which will go out 3 October.

• https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2016/40

https://es.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Plantilla_discusión:OpenStreetMap#Cambio_a_la_plantilla_de_OpenStreetMap

https://es.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Plantilla_discusión:Ficha_de_entidad_subnacional#Cambio_a_la_plantilla_de_OpenStreetMap

We also have feedback on French WV:

https://fr.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Discussion_modèle:OpenStreetMap#Modification_du_mod.C3.A8le_OpenStreetMap

I think their concerns are on the features of <mapframe> and not the tile service itself.

I've posted the notice to the last two templates and asked for clarification on the French Wikivoyage.

• https://vi.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Thảo_luận_Bản_mẫu:OpenStreetMap#Change_to_OpenStreetMap_template

• https://nl.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Overleg_sjabloon:OpenStreetMap#Change_to_OpenStreetMap_template

Rolland Unger has graciously helped address one of the templates on the Italian Wikivoyage.

If we don't hear back from folks in the next few days I'll post it again at the village pumps early next week to hopefully bring more awareness.

Two templates have been fixed by community members. Thanks to their help we have 5 templates left.

I posted the message to the following village pumps for more visibility.

• https://it.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Lounge#Modifiche_al_template_OpenStreetMap
• https://es.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikiviajes:La_posada#Cambio_a_la_plantilla_de_OpenStreetMap
• https://vi.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Thảo_luận#Change_to_OpenStreetMap_template
• https://nl.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Reizigerscafé#Change_to_OpenStreetMap_template

I updated the template https://it.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Template:OpenStreetMap at the Italian Wikivoyage. Unfortunately, I am not an admin at the other Wikivoyage branches to change the coding.

All OpenStreetMap templates adapted.

@RolandUnger, I appreciate you taking the time to fix these templates. Thank you.

I just did another check before I closed this as 'Resolved'.

I think I missed one in my listing, but it is protected.

https://es.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Plantilla:Ficha_de_entidad_subnacional

Now, Template:Ficha_de_entidad_subnacional was also fixed.