Talk:Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos

Click

Dear@T Cells:, if the buttons name is "click to..." then it is correct as you had written, like this "then click-click to...". I might be wrong. Adville (talk) 06:58, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Adville, I think you were correct. I'd like to point out that I didn't undo your correction because I felt you were wrong. I assumed the translation won't be possible again if a new change is made but I later undid my version to yours as you were correct. Thanks for your help. And how is the situation with COVID-19 in your country? Regards. T Cells^Talk 08:12, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

T Cells. Thanks. Well, we in Sweden have a pretty normal life. We are self isolating. Not forced, but "recomended", and that for a Swede is "Listen and do it!" Restaurants are open, but half the tables are closed, to keep the distance. Even att McDonalds (were I heard the staff shout to a costumer last week "hey, you, please keep the distance to the costumer in front of you", and they did...). With start tomorrow I will start installing the new machine in Sweden that will test IgG and IgM on Corona, so I will travel around the country working too much to get it installed on all sites ASAP, because it is so important. My Dansh collegues did it last week, but they are not allowed to come to Sweden and help me. With this said, I guess you understand I will not be very active the next two weeks here ;-) (I am a medtech field service engineer) I will take a photo or two during the installation to put on Commons to preserve it for the future. Br Adville (talk) 09:08, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

I am happy that the situation is less tense in Sweden. Please stay safe and thank you again for your help. Regards. T Cells^Talk 09:39, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Sure AaronJnr (talk) 10:17, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Request

Hello organizers!

If you want to make the competition at least a little scientific :) Please add to the proposed photo archives and archives of this competition - Wiki Science Competition. JukoFF (talk) 19:18, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

I was going to write the same... I know they are often technical and not everyone can add them properly, but it's such a huge effort to collect them specifically for this reason, please do not ignore them.--Alexmar983 (talk) 21:57, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

@JukoFF:, we apologize for this extremely slow response. If I understood your suggestion correctly, archives of images collected from the Wiki Science Competitions should be added to the archives of this contest. This isn't a bad idea and we will be happy to add it if this is what you are suggesting. Alexmar983, I hope you are doing fine. Thanks for your input and please stay safe. Regards. T Cells^Talk 23:08, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

User:T Cells I am doing fine, thanks for asking... I hope you are also fine. In few days I will have more time and show the competition on some social media. Bye!--Alexmar983 (talk) 17:14, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Sound good. Thank you. T Cells^Talk 18:09, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Question

Hello organizers!

Can I add the hashtag #WPWP when illustrating Wikidata pages? --Oleh Kushch (talk) 05:59, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

+1, same question. --Herzi Pinki (talk) 07:12, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello User:Oleh Kushch and User:Herzi Pinki, thanks for your interest in the WPWP Campaign. Unfortunately, the hashtag tool does not track contributions on Wikidata. We are yet to find a way around it but if we have additional information for you on this, we will post it here. We apologize for this problem. T Cells^Talk 12:46, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Another question

Hello Organizaers,

Why there is no mention of Telugu language? May I know the reason? If you need any assistance, I am ready to help you to do it in Telugu language.

Using interwiki and wikidata and commonscat

Hi

It is possible to make lists of articles with no images but where there are a Commonscat or an article in another language with an image.

On Danish Wikipedia we have a user that made this da:Wikipedia:Artikler med commonscat men uden billeder.

I think we never really got to use it in big scale because we were busy with something else and the first versions needed some improvements.

But it should be possible to make good lists and perhaps even a tool that can add relevant photos. I found this old link in my tool box https://www.toolserver.org/~emijrp/imagesforbio/ to a tool that could add photos. It is now broken.

Anyway I think there are good ways to work together. --MGA73 (talk) 10:11, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello MGA73 I am not sure I understand your question but it's fine to keep a list of articles without images in one languge Wikipedia and check the corresponding image on another language Wikipedia. I looked this da:Wikipedia:Artikler med commonscat men uden billeder and selected da:10 Things I Hate About You at random. The article has no image on dawiki but has an image on the enwiki here da:10 Things I Hate About You. Thus, it's a good idea to make such list. If we have a tool that could do that, that would be great. And yes, there are good ways to work together. I'd look at the tool linked above. With best regards. T Cells^Talk 13:05, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Let's work together AaronJnr (talk) 10:14, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Sure, thank you. T Cells^Talk 13:05, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

T Cells I did not really have a question more a note about sharing ideas and tools. So perhaps the question was if anyone have good ideas and tools :-)

Danish Wikipedia do not allow fair use so the list should exclude non-free images. Or at least note if the photos are free or non-free. I did not make the list or the tool so I can't fix it.

But lets say I find a photo to add on da.wiki I might as well add it to all other wikis that do not have a photo. However I will need to open all wikis. It would be nice if we had a list or a tool showing that for Article A there are freely licensed photos on aa, bb and cc wiki (so I can check them and find a photo) and photos are missing on dd, ee, ff and gg wiki (so I can add the photo to all of those articles). --MGA73 (talk) 14:11, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

MGA73 this is a brilliant idea and something we should look into. Do you know who might help with developing such a tool? Thank you. T Cells^Talk 15:10, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

A few other links someone posted to me on IRC (I have not yet found out how they work - if they still work):

• https://fist.toolforge.org/wdfist/index.html
• https://fist.toolforge.org/file_candidates/
• https://fist.toolforge.org/fist/fist.php
• https://wikishootme.toolforge.org

I will ask around to see if someone have time to fix something. --MGA73 (talk) 06:19, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Also:

• c:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no image a category of 719,634 categories on Commons that have a wikidata box but no image.

That should keep a few busy for a month lol! --MGA73 (talk) 06:32, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

MGA73, these are very useful tools. I have added them to the resources section. Thank you so much for your help. T Cells^Talk 15:32, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Can anyone add my name to solo participants

I have already contributed under #WPWPMajun e Baqi (talk) 10:16, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Creating articles

Would adding your own images to new articles count for this? I definitely have some stubs I could create and illustrate with photos I've been taking around Columbus, Ohio. Ɱ (talk) 18:35, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello @Ɱ: and thanks for your question. It's perfectly acceptable to add your own images to new articles and that count for this campaign. With kind regards. T Cells^Talk 20:00, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Instructions: should the edit summary step be integrated into the previous step, or "click Publish" be made its own step after the edit summary step?

I just made some small improvements to the instructions. I also noticed this problem, but didn't fix it because I don't know whether it would cause problems with translations. The problem I'm talking about is that step 4 says On the article page, click Edit and insert the image from Step 3, including a brief caption in the Wikipedia's language. If editing source code, check the display position using the "Preview" button and make any necessary changes. Then click on "Publish changes". and step 5 says Include the hashtag #WPWP in the edit summary of all articles improved with images. However, if someone is following along as they read the instructions, by the time they get to step 5, it will be too late to perform step 5. Therefore, I suggest either of the following:

• Merge step 5 into step 4, so it reads On the article page, click Edit and insert the image from Step 3, including a brief caption in the Wikipedia's language. If editing source code, check the display position using the "Preview" button and make any necessary changes. Include the hashtag #WPWP in the edit summary of all articles improved with images. Then click on "Publish changes".
• Split step 4 into a new version of step 4 that reads On the article page, click Edit and insert the image from Step 3, including a brief caption in the Wikipedia's language. If editing source code, check the display position using the "Preview" button and make any necessary changes. and a new step 6 that reads Click on "Publish changes". The current step 6 will become step 7 (and actually shouldn't be a numbered step at all, but a note after the procedure).

↗ PointyOintment ❬t & c❭

Hello PointyOintment and thanks for this useful suggestion. I have merged 4 and 5 as suggested above. Thank you. T Cells^Talk 11:25, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Language Wikipedias

Are language Wikipedias other than participating communities included in the competition? Ex: Telugu language from India isn't registered for participation. Do Audio-files/images added to articles on Telugu Wikipedia are taken into account? --IM3847 (talk) 17:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello IM3847 Contributions to any language Wikipedia is allowed and counts. Audio-files/images added to articles on any Wikipedia language including Telugu Wikipedia are taken into account. Regards. T Cells^Talk 18:03, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Is any article suitable?

Technically rule is that user needs to edit an article and add "#WPWP" to edit the summary? But there is no limits for the article where the photo is added?

Just confirming that it is ok that article has photos already and the article doesn't need to be in a special "photos wanted" category or tagged with some template? (ie. any article is ok) --2001:999:0:73FD:903:F927:4A33:9A55 10:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

There is no limit to the number of articles you can improved with photos. It's a general rule to add the hashtag #WPWP to the edit summary of all articles improved with photos. That's the way we can track your contributions. Regards. T Cells^Talk 11:46, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

I disagree strongly with this answer. More photos is not always better. -JasonAQuest (talk) 22:54, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Discussion about this competition on en-wp AN

There is a discussion regarding this competition going on at the English Wikipedia's Administrators' Noticeboard. Link here. Berrely (talk) 14:24, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Berrely. @T Cells:, how do you guarantee that the images added will improve the article and generally adhere to en-wp's policies and guidelines wrt images? ——SerialNumber54129 14:33, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello Serial_Number_54129, I apologize for this extremely slow response. I have so much respect for the English Wikipedia community. I was actually driving and I have to park somewhere to quickly respond. First off, I'd like to acknowledge that there is no excuse for bad behaviour and disruption to any language Wikipedia. The action of those new editors is regrettable. The primary purpose of this campaign is to improve Wikipedia articles with photos. We regret that some new users decided to either not read the rules or not adhering to them. That's really sad! We decided to not set special rules for new editors because we realize that adding images to articles involve simple editing and a good way to engage new editors. I realize that this is being a problem. I agree the current problems with new editors participation in the campaign is worrisome, though it's not uncommon in other contests, like the ones in Commons, and we generally manage to handle it. This is not to excuse disruptive new editors or to compare Commons with Wikipedia, of course.

Considering the current situation at the English Wikipedia, maybe we can work out a solution to minimize disruption by new editors which includes making sure that the participation instructions are clearer? We will propose something soonest as a matter of urgency. Thank you for this heads up. T Cells^Talk 18:08, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

The first thing you should do is to drop those prizes. They are a horrible incentive that promote low-quality/high-volume drive-by dumping of images which detract from the articles, and leave it for others to clean up. -JasonAQuest (talk) 22:45, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Agree with JasonAQuest. This is annoying, they are breaking articles. --108.17.71.32 23:27, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

I think that for the next year an additional requirement should be added: editors should get informed on the current practices, they should subscribe to their changed articles and react on the feedback of the admins, follow their recommendations and do not edit articles that in a way that is explicitly unwanted by the admins. Nikolay Komarov (talk) 15:02, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Participation statistics

Hello, a question, how can I check the progress statistics of the contest? Bye, --Elisardojm (talk) 08:08, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Now that we have passed the mid-point of the campaign, and to follow-up on Elisardojm's question, are there any plans to inform us on the stats so far? Loopy30 (talk) 22:05, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm also interested to know how it goes. Nikolay Komarov (talk) 15:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Is there anything to read about the Results? --08:04, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Incubator projects

Are incubator projects included in the competition too? -Yupik (talk) 17:21, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

We are not sure we could track metrics on the incubator with the hashtag tool. T Cells^Talk 17:25, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

I'll add some in so you can check. (We haven't been able to use incubator projects in most other competitions either.) -Yupik (talk) 17:36, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. I'd keep eyes on it. T Cells^Talk 19:35, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Changing the prizes and rules when the contest had started

The contest started on July 1st with prizes in US dollars. Two days later, the prizes were changed to "gift vouchers" [1]. That's not cool. And gift vouchers for what? There was even a change to require 300 edits and 1 year history of editing [2], but it was reverted [3] and then "only" added to the WLA category [4]. That's not cool either, you shouldn't change the eligibility criteria when the contest had already started. Btw, the FAQ section says that registering is not mandatory and that you only need to use the hashtag to participate. -kyykaarme (talk) 21:28, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello Kyykaarme, thanks for your comment. The eligibility criteria has not changed. You were correct that the eligibility criteria was changed earlier but that was quickly reversed having realized that it's not modest to change a rule while the contest is ongoing. The WLA prizes are offered by the WLA team and they contacted us that they wish to apply the 1year account - 300 edits rules to their prizes. This is why it was only added to the WLA prizes. We apologize for this. You were also correct that registration here isn't required but registration in terms of creating a user account is definitely a requirement as stated in both the instruction on how to participate and the rules.

Prizes for contests within the Wikimedia movement have always been a gift voucher and not cash prizes. It was clearly a mistake and we promptly fixed it when this was brought to our attention. We in fact confirmed to one of our local organizers via email on the 29th June 2020 that the prizes are awarded as a gift voucher and not cash prize. We sincerely apologize for these mistakes and thanks for your understanding. T Cells^Talk 05:57, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Hashtag for audio

What hashtag should we put to articles improved with audio? --Elisardojm (talk) 10:54, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello Elisardojm, generally the Hashtag #WPWP would track it but we would need to filter articles where audio and videos have been used. We will be able to do that at the end of the campaign. Regards. T Cells^Talk 13:29, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Edit summaries

@T Cells, the participants in this competition are being quite disruptive with their lack of edit summaries, so pointing the importance of edit summaries out is necessary. Please consider reinstating my edit to this page and adding something similar to WPWP Contest at University of Ilorin. Þjarkur (talk) 16:13, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Þjarkur, it's a general rule for users to use edit summary for any edit made. I have gone ahead to reinstate your edit with a minor fix. I can't edit the WPWP Contest at University of Ilorin directly but I'd ask the local organizers to consider adding that information. Thanks for your help and please stay safe. T Cells^Talk 18:31, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello Þjarkur, I have notified the local organizing team of the WPWP Contest at University of Ilorin. Regards. T Cells^Talk 18:41, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

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Many problems

Hello,
just some feedback about contributors to this event:

• only #WPWP (or #WPWP+lang) as comment is a bad practice. It don't help people to get what is happening
• I was not aware about this event. So for me this comment (#WPWP) means nothing
• mostly all the photos insertion I saw was:
  • without caption
  • or with a useless caption (picture name, no context, not in local language…)
• most of the photos insertion don't take care of templates: picture are inserted as <[[File:…]] often in the middle of a template that has a dedicated "picture=" parameter (which of course breaks the display)
• same for sound insertion (no caption, insertion at places that break the layout)

So my comment:

• more informations should have been send to local wikis
• more constrains (or maybe more contributors following) should have been indicated

At this time I corrected (with other) too many faulty insertions, and now I just revert. It generates more job to regular editors than it improves the encyclopedia.

Regards, Hexasoft (talk) 20:27, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

The instruction says "Participants must include the hashtag #WPWP in the Edit summary of all articles improved with images in addition to a descriptive edit summary, for example "Improving with an image to infobox" #WPWP. Do not insert the hashtag (#WPWP) into an article." Did you missed this or there is a specific wording you think should be added? If you there is a specific wording that should be added, please suggest them. We have responded to the report filled by you on the frwiki. T Cells^Talk 09:42, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Note that any edit made to French Wikipedia articles with "#WPWP" in the edit summary now triggers the anti-vandalism filter. Even legitimate, properly formed edits will not pass the filter and cannot be saved until the contest hashtag is removed from the edit summary (example). Loopy30 (talk) 02:42, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. We have responded to the frwiki admin noticeboard. Regards. T Cells^Talk 08:25, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi. The filter has been deactivated since. We are working on a message to put on new users talk pages and I would really appreciate if you give me some feedback on it. VateGV (talk) 13:48, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

VateGV thanks for this information. We appreciate your help and support. We will review the draft and provide feedback accordingly. We have also added the clause "Do not add photos to articles in a language you do not speak fluently" to the rules. With kind regards. T Cells^Talk 18:06, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Comment: Strongly agree with @Hexasoft that "only #WPWP (or #WPWP+lang) as comment is a bad practice". It doesn't link to anything, and I had to dig a little to see what it means (which, I believe, no one should have to do). On English Wikipedia, WPWP is a WikiProject that (as far as I can tell) has nothing to do with this effort, but it's the first place I found when I saw "#WPWP" in a couple of edit summaries, and apparently it's the only place on English Wikipedia where "WPWP" means anything. I'd like to request that you advise WPWP participants to explicitly link back to this meta project, so people know what WPWP means, or don't use the hashtag at all (or, like Hexasoft suggests, notify the local wikis, and instruct your particpants to link to the local wiki's page about it). Now, as for what caused me to look up WPWP in the first place: I don't imagine there was any specific direction from "#WPWP" to do so, but two different editors -- using the "#WPWP" comment -- added File:Master Musicians of Jajouka led by Bachir Attar.jpg, which depicts en:The Master Musicians of Jajouka led by Bachir Attar, to the article en:The Master Musicians of Joujouka. Those are two different groups -- both articles describe the schism between them, over which there had been a very long, but hopefully still dormant, edit war (hence my concern). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:41, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

P.S. All of this might be moot since the campaign ends in a few days, but perhaps it might be useful in future campaigns. Meanwhile I've specified the image request at en:Talk:The Master Musicians of Joujouka, and added {{Distinguish}} at File:Master Musicians of Jajouka led by Bachir Attar.jpg. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:49, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback Gyrofrog. They are very useful. To be specific, #WPWP (or #WPWP+lang) is not in any way a substitute to a well descriptive edit summary. It's only a tool for tracking metrics. We realize this could be problematic and we have earlier improved our instruction to include a clause that in addition to the hashtag, participants must add a descriptive edit summary. We acknowledge that this may still be problematic but we will surely improve the campaign in the future. Thanks for helping to fix the error in this article. With kind regards. T Cells^Talk 22:02, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Infobox insertion. Monitored? Accepted?

Initially asked in FAQ page discussion but it seems like it's not being monitored, so I ask here.

I thought about inserting an infobox into pages that have no photo. If I insert a correct infobox , e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_person, there will be a whole block with lots of details and a PHOTO inserted. But, in most of the infobox types a "photo description" field is not included. As a result, the photo is there, inside a template, but there is no photo description and no easy way to add it.

Question 1: will such an edit be tracked? An appeared image inside a template block. (yes, I use the hashtag).

Question 2: will such an edit be ignored? Based on the reason that a template usually doesn't include image/photo description, so the the formal requirement "add a proper description" wasn't fulfilled.

Thank you in advance! Nikolay Komarov (talk) 14:55, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

We are sorry for this extremely slow response. The hashtag is the tracking tool. It would automatically track a contribution in cases where images are added to infobox. As a general rule, a well descriptive caption must be provided for every image addition to any Wikipedia article. In a situation where a photo description field is not included, you should add the field yourself and provide a caption. Regards. T Cells^Talk 13:43, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Oups !

Seen from my wiki.fr window, it's a disaster, with contributors adding photos to the chain with no interest in the articles, and without worrying about the layout, with the best good will in the world no doubt, but in the end, it's a degradation of the encyclopedia. See : french Bistro (Machine translation, sorry for the quality of the language) Ypirétis (talk) 11:58, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Ypirétis thanks for your message. There has been some discussion on that board a few weeks ago with a lot of suggestions and improvements. If there are users or a particular user that is being disruptive, feel free to block the user until they are able to show in their unblock appeal that they understand the problems and willing to abide by the campaign rules. Regards. T Cells^Talk 13:28, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Winners announcement

Hiya, apologies if this may not be the right place for it, but just wanted to check whether there's any update on the announcement? Noticed it was changed to Oct 6, so just wanted to see if there had been recent changes. Many thanks. --Infogapp1 (talk) 19:23, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Stats

Are there stats available somewhere on this campaign? I'm curious about the participation rate of new vs. established users. (not watching, please {{ping}}) czar 09:40, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Czar and thanks for your inquiry. The full stats is here but we might need a script to help filter the participation rate of new vs. Established users.

In a survey completed in September by 113 participants, 15.9% of the participants reported that their participation in the campaign was the first time they edited Wikipedia.

Please let us know if you require additional information about this data and if there are ways you would like to provide support for this campaign. T Cells^Talk 14:31, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Pinging @Czar: Regard. T Cells^Talk 23:29, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! czar 00:11, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

#WPWP on French wiki

Bonjour à vous,

J'aimerais d'abord souligner que l'initiative de cet évènement est très bonne.

Cependant, il est important que les participants se souviennent que les comportements « spam » sont proscrits sur Wikipédia en français. Chaque ajout se doit d'être réalisé avec discernement, être pertinent et respecter les lois en vigueur.

Nous ne pouvons transiger sur le respect des droits d'auteur qui font partie de nos principes fondateurs et de nos conditions d'utilisation.

Le sujet a été plusieurs fois abordé au cours de ces dernières semaines :

• 13 juillet 2021
• 24 juillet 2021
• 25 juillet 2021

Nous appelons aussi les participants à respecter nos autres principes fondateurs, en particulier le premier et le second, et à respecter les règles et recommandations.

En ne respectant pas les droits d'auteur, vous vous exposez sciemment à des poursuites judiciaires. Soyez prudent !

Tout manquement aux principes fondateurs et aux règles sera sanctionné comme il se doit.

Bien à vous, LD (talk) 23:46, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Translation (please apologise if there is any mistake or wrong translation) :

Hello,

I would first to highlight that the initiative for this event is very good.

However, it is important that participants remember that “spam” behavior is prohibited on French Wikipedia. Each change must be made with discernment, be relevant and respect current laws.

We cannot compromise on the respect of copyright which are part of our Five pillars and our Terms of Use.

The subject has been raised several times over the past few weeks:

• 13 juillet 2021
• 24 juillet 2021
• 25 juillet 2021

We also ask participants to respect others pillars, in particular the first and the second, and we ask participants to respect rules and recommendations.

By violating copyright, you knowingly expose yourself to legal action. Please be careful!

Any breach of the Five pillars and rules will be sanctioned as it should.

Best regards, LD (talk) 23:46, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion: Require participants to have meaningful logs

In addition to edit summaries that actually describe changes, participants really should be logging which articles and images are being used in a separate page for monitoring. Would make it a lot easier to revert poor additions (which I'm seeing en masse on en-wiki) and maybe slow them down enough to not overwhelm editors. This contest's monetary prize seems to have opened the floodgates for poor user behavior. SounderBruce 18:43, 25 July 2021 (UTC)