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An apology to our community, and next steps

Before "apologizing", you need to come clean: did you lie? (Edit: Post has been deleted. See web archive link here.) Earlier, you (Stack Exchange) wrote: We removed a moderator for ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes

I know that my answer will overlap others, but enough people are waiting for me to comment on this process with an eye toward my case in particular that I'm going to post anyway. The new removal ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps

I was optimistic when you made this post; this was a much more positive message than the "apology and update" that preceded it. The test of your will to address these problems would have come in the ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps

As a user who goes by ‘they’, I appreciate your acknowledgment that despite your intent to make users like me more welcome, your actions backfired: Worse, through our handling of this situation, we ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps

tl;dr: I believe CTO Fullerton is mostly candy-wrapping, not back-tracking from, SE Inc.'s problematic conduct. To my fellow Meta.SE users: I am surprised at those of you who view this post as a ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps

I'm a quiet (now resigned) moderator who just sits in her corner in The Workplace, keeping flag queues under control, trying to maintain a community that I care for. I don't spend time in meta....
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes

The reinstatement process is broken as written. The process is rigged against the previous moderator (PM). Community Managers (CMs) can recuse themselves if they feel they can't be impartial. ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes

Thank you for taking the time to put this process together. I know this was dozens and dozens of hours across 7-10 people, If I understand your internal structure correctly. I wouldn't be surprised ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps

This apology seems to be sincere but leaves me with questions. I am not overly cynical and believe people can decide to do better and move on from there. This appears to be doing that. One elephant ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes

The two new processes are palliative at best. I would NEVER want to be a moderator with such procedures in place: There is no community oversight of any community manager's action, and frankly, I do ...
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Unicorn Meta Zoo #9: How do we handle problem users?

In the context of a code of conduct, you talked about the spirit of the rules versus the actual words, and that it's important to uphold the spirit even if someone is not technically violating the ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps

Thank you.
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An apology to our community, and next steps

From this post you've clearly shown that you still know how to engage with the community so I'm genuinely interested regarding why this sort of statement wasn't drafted originally and you opted to go ...
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Moderation Strike update: Data dumps, choosing representatives, GPT data, and where we’re holding

Negotiation updates are primarily posted on Discord. For those without access to Discord for any reason, here's a summary (that will be updated as the negotiations progress, though with some delay ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes

The new process was created in response to the lack of process that led to the firing of Monica. So I think it is fair to ask in what ways the events around Monica's firing violated the tenets of this ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps

I was a moderator, who's just resigned due to the erosion of trust I feel has happened as a result of this issue. But, there are some things to note as it relates to the above apology... This ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes

These processes miss the point. All of the company's current big issues with the community boil down to one issue: The company lost a lot of goodwill and trust. Without trust, review processes that ...
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Why do you stay?

Mi Yodeya. I stay for this fantastic community, a community of people who care about each other and help each other while we all, together, build an amazing collection of questions and answers about ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps

While this apology is a good first step, there are still some serious issues that remain unresolved. Monica Cellio should not have had her moderator status removed without due process. I believe ...
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Monica's situation continues unresolved. Is SE hoping the problem just goes away?

I had been glad to see David Fullerton's post when it first came out. It sounded sincere, and exactly like the kind of thing that we needed. I was hopeful it was a sign of the situation getting under ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes

There is no protection against directed findings The only people who can take decisions on moderator removal and reinstatement are community managers (CM). All CM are part of the same corporate ...
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A very recent post asking people to go "on strike" was just deleted

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Monica's situation continues unresolved. Is SE hoping the problem just goes away?

Ok, here's where we're at: As noted in David's apology, we created a lot of the problems in play here by not following process. So now we need a process to follow for handling issues involving ...
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Changing how community leadership works on Stack Exchange: a proposal and rough timeline

First off: this is an ambitious project - GOOD! There's been entirely too much timidity in recent years, too little willingness to fail in big ambitious ways or succeed trying. A few notes as they ...
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Moderation Strike update: Data dumps, choosing representatives, GPT data, and where we’re holding

One thing I'd like to add is that it is entirely SE's decision to not engage with the community on this topic right now. It was their decision to only negotiate with a few selected representatives out ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes

This does not address the core issue This must be called out, again, and again, until an answer is recived. Monica was suspended without a warning, and accused of violating the CoC. This has been ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps

This is a plot of the total score (upvotes minus downvotes) of this announcement. The difference from the previous day's total score is shown in green (positive, above the y-axis 0) or red (negative, ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps

This is the third time now SE has failed in gathering feedback from the moderators on this topic. The first time was when you dumped the announcement into the Teachers' Lounge (TL). The second ...
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