Hannolans

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Best regards! Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:51, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Hannolans/Archive 1 on 2016-09-27.

are we sure this is a Belgian human and not a business or organization of some kind, like Contre Jour ?

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Hanno zou jij even hiernaar kunnen kijken? Misschien is het een idee om alle WWII-gerelateerde wikiprojecten te vinden die actief zijn in de Benelux en te zorgen dat ze genoemd zijn onder dit pagina Wikidata:Netwerk Oorlogsbronnen groet en ook gefeliciteerd, ~~~~

As far as I can see judging from "De tekening 'Johannes de Doper met het Lam Gods' is een kopie naar een schilderij van de Spaanse schilder Bartolomé Esteban Murillo (1617-1682) uit omstreeks 1665." Bartolomé Esteban Murillo (Q109940023) is the result of a museum database artefact, there is no "Bartolomé Esteban Murillo" floruit 1813 and the item should be deleted. Just asking you to confirm. Thanks in advance!

yes, it is Bartolomo Esteban Murillo https://www.collectiegelderland.nl/paleishetloo/object/caea2ae9-a6d3-6160-b568-83f1d163eeb8 and 1813 was the copy. I removed the floruit

With this edit you have added a reference to https://www.boijmans.nl/en/collection/artists/14208 for the date of death "6 June 1677". But the day and month do not seem to be supported by the source. I will remove the reference for now. But does this issue appear for other items as well? Could you have a look? Thanks in advance!

Hm, checked and in openrefine it was a year only. Probably a good idea that I create a page for Boijmans to check artists with multiple birth dates as I have done her Wikidata:CopyClear/NADD/monitor/dubbele geboortedata

So this might be a bug in the matching by OpenRefine?

Not sure, probably a fuzzy merging setting, but I can't find this as the dates were not in the scheme anymore. Anyway, I created a page with double birth dates for Boijmans. Monitoring: Wikidata:CopyClear/NADD/Boijmans/dubbele geboortedata en Wikidata:CopyClear/NADD/Boijmans/dubbele overlijdensdata

I guess this is less about double dates and more about the precision. Does Boijmans provide any dates more precise than a year? If not removing all Boijmans references from more precise dates could fix the problem.

They provide both. I don't think this is a huge problem as I don't see other mistakes, I do see several mistakes from some Belgium museums. As I don't see those wrong years in the source I delete them.

I've just stumbled upon another case. Could you have another look to remove those wrong references? Thank you!

Hi!

Some time ago, you created Rütimeyer (Q86819706). I came by it by coincidence today. It has very little data—just a last name and that's it. Is there a chance to add some more info there?

I checked and there is not that much information but based on the information about African masks I assumed this is Leopold Rütimeyer and merged the items.

Thanks!

Hallo Hannolans, danke für die Erstellung von Anton Joseph Hammerschmidt (Q111447400). Zwei Bitten: Kannst du bei den Datumsangaben, falls im ''Biographischen Lexikon der Münzmeister'' "ca." steht, entsprechend "Nachweisumstände: circa" nachtragen? Falls du den Datenbestand noch in OpenRefine hast, wäre es außerdem eine große Hilfe, wenn du die GNDs ergänzt. Bei 1.062 Datenobjekten mit MMLO-ID (P6240) fehlen sie; zu viele, um die Arbeit von Hand zu erledigen.

PS: I just saw that you speak Dutch. Sorry for writing in German.

Hi Kolja21, I have added the GND identifiers for 1500 persons with this batch https://iw.toolforge.org/quickstatements/#.2Fbatch.2F213789 About circa, I will have a look, I'm not sure if I can do that easily.

Great work! I checked a few and the entries are all ok.

Hallo Hannolans, I've just found one of the few import error (Q27044511: done). Today there are about 450 items with MMLO ID (P6240) missing an authorty file (GND), see https://w.wiki/B3MR. Can you take these items into account when you next use QuickStatements?

An {{Q|43229}} is not necessarily a {{Q|16334295}}. Consider the United Nations, which is an organization and not a group of humans. So I am again going to remove this subclass link in the near future.

The UN is an organisation with many humans employed, so a group of humans.

How so? If the UN is a group of humans then each of these humans is an instance of the UN, which you might (but might not) think of a member of the UN. But no human meets this criterion. If the UN has instances then these are the member states of the UN - so the UN is in no reasonable way a group of humans. Just because some item is an employee of some organization doesn't make them a member of that organization, let alone an instance of that organization.

Consider even an organization that might be thought of as having humans as instances - for example some sort of social club. The employees of that organization are not necessarily members of the organization, and definitely not necessarily instances of the organization.

States are the members of the UN, but humans are employees of the UN. They meet, they eat, they create works together like books and reports.

But the humans are definitely not instances of the United Nations, so the UN should not be a subclass of group of humans. Neither are the employees or directors or shareholders instances of a company, so again not a subclass of group of humans.

It depends if you see organisations as an organised team of humans that work together for a certain goal, for example the goals of the United Nations, or if you see organisations as a legal concept.

Hi Hannolans, I've just picked up an old error of yours, in Susan Close (Q7647681), the South Australian politician - you added Canadian citizenship as you have confused her with a Canadian academic, photographer and write with the same first and last names - see https://www.susanclose.com/about. These are two different people. I've removed the false info from Susan Close (Q7647681), but as I'm unfamiliar with Wikidata I'll leave you to chase up the other person's entry, if it exists.

Cheers, Bahudhara

thanks! I created Q127599278

Hey Hanno Hans,

does OpenRefine allow for additional parsers? The artist's webpage at V2 is usually behind More: (CSS selector: #parent-fieldname-text > p:nth-child(3)).

Greetings

Hi I don't understand exactly what you mean?

I've went through your import of V2 archive (Q125729237). It could be enriched with more information which is behind some CSS selectors.

What kind of information?

The artist's webpage.

Ah, yes that might be useful