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History at NBA team pages

Serious cleanup is needed in history sections of NBA teams as one editor has been a lot of stuff that has a number of issues (particularly grammar and sources). I am not able to make regular edits so help from active editors would be appreciated. – sbaio 19:06, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sbaio: Can you maybe indicate the top 3–5 that you believe need the most help? If so, I'll see what I can do, thanks. Left guide (talk) 04:38, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Left guide: I cannot look through all pages at this moment, but I think that top five would probably be Atlanta Hawks, Boston Celtics, Golden State Warriors, New Orleans Pelicans and San Antonio Spurs. And that is after taking a quick look at editing history of MacaroniDrown (talk · contribs) who has been making these changes. – sbaio 15:40, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of reliable sources noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Sports Publishing/Skyhorse and Triumph Books. Thank you. Left guide (talk) 23:45, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Basketball Reference links

FYI: I went to Wikidata to add rookie Adem Bona's BR link (was missing from his infobox), and found there was already a BR entry there, but to a different "International Stats", which was just a blank page.[1] Maybe because he played in Turkey before college? I then found that Kobe also has an "international" page, but his shows Olympic stats.[2]. —Bagumba (talk) 04:22, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are two basketball-reference links for Cui Yongxi, as well: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cuiyo01w.html and https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cuiyo01.html. Only the latter has NBA stats. Are the BR links in the infobox controlled in Wikidata these days? Zagalejo (talk) 22:32, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NBA Academy bios

Do NBA Academy players get the talk page tag of this project. I just created Oscar Goodman (basketball) and am not sure whether it is premature to tag him here.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:51, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say no, and draw the line at G League players, who at least include players drafted by NBA teams, on two-way contracts, or assigned from the NBA. I don't think we should make the scope any player slightly related to the core NBA, like how older WNBA players were tagged under NBA proj.—Bagumba (talk) 18:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This project excludes WNBA?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:02, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I dont see Talk:Caitlin Clark tagged. —Bagumba (talk) 03:24, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyTheTiger and Bagumba: There's a WNBA task force that's subsidiary to this NBA project at WP:WNBA which is tagged as allegedly inactive. Not sure if/how much that's a factor here. Left guide (talk) 09:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't recall much WNBA discussion here. Including WNBA within the NBA's WP:PROJSCOPE just bloats page alert lists, unless there is consensus to include it. —Bagumba (talk) 10:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where else can people go to get WNBA editorial issues addressed. Someone pinged my talk page and I referred them here and then they went silent on the issue. Where should I send them.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyTheTiger: Where else can people go to get WNBA editorial issues addressed. WT:WNBA would be the place for that. The very last sentence of WP:WikiProject says:

Any "inactive" WikiProject can be revived if the project has a "group" of new editors that would make the project an active place for discussions related to improvement of pages within the project's scope.

So that means two editors (in this case you and the someone who pinged your talk page) expressing interest in coordinating together in the same topic area should be sufficient to change the status of WP:WNBA to {{WikiProject status/Semi-active}}. Left guide (talk) 03:15, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyTheTiger @Left guide: Wikipedia:WikiProject Basketball/Women's basketball is active. In fact, I found Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball/Archive_4#WNBA from 2013, where that was the suggestion in lieu of WP:NBA. —Bagumba (talk) 10:16, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of teams and map added to basketball season pages

An editor has started adding sections for teams and map of teams in NBA and other basketball season pages (for example, 1985–86 NBA season#Teams and 1985–86 NBA season#Map of teams). There is no need to repeat the same information when there are standings tables and the number of teams is usually consistent. That is just a useless decoration. – sbaio 14:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The map is useful.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Other basketball leagues do this, but those have promotion and relegation, so there are always changes from the previous season. One country that has a similar closed system is Australia, and in articles there is a separate teams section, e.g. 2024 NRL season#Teams. Having a closed system is not a reason on why US sports season articles not do this, as sports season articles do it.

One sorta similar thing are candidates sections in elections articles, you'd see the same list anyway at another part of the article albeit in a usually different order. I'd rather keep this article and just have the division, coaches and arenas column, and remove the capacity column, and keep colors to a minimum.

The map is pretty useful, and shows a snapshot in that moment in time how the divisions actually looked like, something a table can't do.

Again, these are US articles, and I don't expect them to follow how the rest of the world does. Howard the Duck (talk) 16:46, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Frontsfan2005: should be seeking a consensus at respective sports WikiProjects, before making such additions to season pages. GoodDay (talk) 17:40, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tim Duncan nominated for FAR

I have nominated Tim Duncan for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. ScarletViolet t c 14:08, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should this discussion be listed at Wikipedia:Featured article review#Featured_article_reviews? Zagalejo (talk) 22:34, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added now here. @ScarletViolet: Courtesy notification. —Bagumba (talk) 09:42, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New NBA categories

While I have questions if these categories should even exist, the newly-created categories Category:NBA championship-winning players and Category:NBA championship-winning players from Canada need criteria for inclusion added. For example, should it only be for players on the playoff roster? Probably. Thoughts? Rikster2 (talk) 20:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At minimum they would have to be contracted to the team, i.e. not players who were waived or traded away during the season. For instance, Scot Pollard [3][4][5] and Caron Butler were not on their teams playoffs roster but are considered NBA champions.[6][7] Alvaldi (talk) 20:49, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The infobox uses WP:NBARING, which says the player must have been on the playoff roster.—Bagumba (talk) 06:19, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why does the special category for Canadian players exist?-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 06:22, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Overcategorization? —Bagumba (talk) 06:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rikster2, @Alvaldi: On a related topic, there was no comment earlier at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association/Archive_47#NBA_champion_in_infobox:_Two-way_players_and_Avery_Bradley about Avery Bradley in 2020, when he was on the Lakers roster but opted out of the bubble, and two-way players, who are not eligible for the playoffs. —Bagumba (talk) 06:23, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say keep it simple by mirroring the WP:NBARING infobox consensus since that's a clear black-and-white inclusion criteria that also maintains consistency across the project. Anything else would be too subjective and/or create discrepancies, thus opening the door to further editorial disputes. Left guide (talk) 08:24, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]