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Francis Le français

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01 July 2015

Suspected sockpuppets

86.68.87.55 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
84.100.171.95 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
78.250.33.145 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
86.68.87.219 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
86.68.87.24 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
86.68.87.172 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))

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All these IPs and account are "contributing" uniquely on the UPR / Asselineau articles: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
They claim "lot of IP aren't agree with you" here, trying to prove they have a consensus against thorough contributors.
It was explained several times why their (his?) contributions are wrong by Me where he comes with always same explanation, different IP, not hearing what we tell him, Ravenswing here, here and admin Malik Shabazz protection against vandalism, discussion about the IP vandalism. D0kkaebi (talk) 01:29, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, thank you for taking times. Please find the diff:

Francis le Francais making the changes on articles here 30th June and here June 30th once more in several edits, without prior discussion as recommended by admin Malik Shabazz here July 1st, here June 11th and here June 2nd.
Warned by myself to proceed to discussion before those changes here feb 10th, June 8th, june 9th, June 10th, June 11th.
IP 86.68.87.55 proceeding the exact same changes here in several edits feb 1st
IP 86.74.28.232 proceeding the exact same changes here feb 10th
Re-using IP 86.68.87.55 to proceed the exact same changes here feb 20th and here feb 17th and here feb 11th
IP 78.250.19.230 proceeding the exact same changes here March 24th
IP 84.100.171.95 proceeding the exact same changes here June 1st
Amieenoch proceeding same changes here June 6th
Re-using IP 84.100.171.95 to proceed the exact same changes here June 6th
IP 78.250.33.145 proceeding the exact same changes here June 8th
Re-Using IP 84.100.171.95 to proceed the exact same changes here June 10th and here June 9th with several edits
Ip 86.68.87.219 proceeding the exact same changes here June 10th
Finally, Francis le Francais claiming that "A lot of ip aren't agree with you for more than a month" claiming thus the consensus of the accounts he is controlling here June 1st

If something unclear, let me know. D0kkaebi (talk) 03:20, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The reasons (against me by again D0kkaebi) are weak or false and unjustified. After he calls me vandal, he try anything to block me. none of these ip intervened differently chronologically and register allows no longer suffer contempt for IP.--Francis Le français (talk) 13:28, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Except IP 78(...), all of these are located in Rennes, France with a connection provided by SFR / Neuf Telecom. D0kkaebi (talk) 00:34, 3 July 2015 (UTC) Also, it is not only me who calls you vandal but also admin Malik Shabazz D0kkaebi (talk) 00:37, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

misinformed by you ! --Francis Le français (talk) 09:28, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This user D0kkaebi tries to submit editorials disagreements in case something else (Sockpuppet_investigations). This is a pretext, and if that user had responded to the legitimate remarks (because based on the rules of Wikipedia) made under the IP; nothing would have happened. Unfortunately for him, I suggest he consult the chronology of my contributions.--Francis Le français (talk) 21:14, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would point out that since the entry of " francis Le français " (june 30th 2015 ) any editorial work of these IP is reported to.
Sometime Ip. Sometimes (rare times, ok) anonymous contributions under the IP are right.
The user francis Le français (me) enrolled after some IP. --Francis Le français (talk) 08:40, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

Additional information needed - @D0kkaebi: In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:

At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this. Vanjagenije (talk) 18:42, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@D0kkaebi: According to diffs you provided, those IPs obviously belong tho the same person. But, I still don't see any strong connection to Francis Le français. Am I missing something? @Malik Shabazz: Can you help here. It seams that you are familiar with this. @Bongwarrior: It seams that Amieenoch is somehow connected here. You blocked that account for "abusing multiple accounts". May I ask: What are his other accounts? Vanjagenije (talk) 16:54, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure - just some troll who routinely harasses Malik Shabazz. I always block those on sight without worrying too much about the particulars. He or someone else might have a name. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:57, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In mid-May, 65.92.163.181 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) vandalized an article on my watchlist, and while reviewing the IP's other edits I found that she/he had deleted 2,852 bytes from François Asselineau with a very poor explanation. Over the next few weeks, I saw that a series of IPs were deleting the same (or similar) material, as well as material from Popular Republican Union (2007). On June 11, I protected each article for a week, hoping it would force some discussion from the editor behind the IPs. Francis Le français (talk · contribs) appeared on June 30. While he is a single-purpose account, he has participated on the articles' Talk pages (although he could work on his civility). I have no thoughts on whether Francis Le français is or is not socking. And Amieenoch (talk · contribs) was unrelated to all this, but rather one incarnation of a banned editor who periodically harasses me by reverting all my edits. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:01, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Francis le Francais is connected to the IPs because he is executing the exact same changes as other IPs for 5 months (All difs listed above). I think it is clear. Other additional evidences are his acting of doing his own change first and providing the exact same vague explanations, and written in particular Frenglish making his contribution unique.

Calling the sources "Shitty", same vocabulary used by 84.100.171.95 here and Francis le Francais here
Explanation written half in French, half in English here by 86.68.87.55 and here by Francis le Francais. D0kkaebi (talk) 07:18, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, all those IPs mentioned here stopped editing before Francis Le français started. I'm closing this case with no action now, but the behavior should be monitored. The case should be reopened if new suspicious IPs appear. Vanjagenije (talk) 09:36, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]