Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 27
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 27, 2024.
Clarissa: Or the History of A Young
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- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:55, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Clarissa: Or the History of A Young → Clarissa; or, The History of a Young Lady (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete. The redirect isn't usable as an actual link or an incomplete search term. Tevildo (talk) 23:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The full title is quite long, but this a nonsensical place to truncate it. Ca talk to me! 23:33, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- delete per nom. the average reader can finish the title, i'll put faith in their cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. This isn't a reasonable way to truncate Clarissa; or, The History of a Young Lady: Comprehending the Most Important Concerns of Private Life. And Particularly Shewing, the Distresses that May Attend the Misconduct Both of Parents and Children, In Relation to Marriage. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
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The History of a Young Girl
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:55, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- The History of a Young Girl → Clarissa; or, The History of a Young Lady (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete per criterion 2 (confusing), or retarget to The Diary of a Young Girl, which is a much closer match to the redirect name than the current target. Tevildo (talk) 23:03, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete A search on Google and DDG gave me a list of completely unrelated, nonotable books. Ca talk to me! 23:32, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Oddly The History of a Young Lady, which might be reasonable, is red. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
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National Kabaddi Association
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 4#National Kabaddi Association
Personal weapon
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- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:17, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Personal weapon → Service pistol (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I do not think the current target of service pistol is the correct target. Unsure where it should be targeted or whether it should even exist as a redirect. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:16, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete very vague. Could be a PDW, could be a personally bought arm that is acceptable for service, could be a hold-out Derringer, could be a boot-holstered knife, etc -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 23:26, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The most straightforward implication, that if one possesses a weapon personally, it is presumptively a pistol, makes no sense. TheFeds 10:20, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete unless a better target can be found. The current target is too narrow, and I haven't been able to find a better one. A personal weapon is not necessarily a firearm. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 16:20, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, hopelessly vague, and in U.S. law enforcement slang, the term can refer to a personally-owned pistol the officer may carry on duty instead of the standard department-issue pistol in compliance with department policy, or to a personally-owned pistol the officer carries while off-duty—in other words, roughly the opposite of the target. Carguychris (talk) 19:21, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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Mex-Mex
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 5#Mex-Mex
Oberon in fiction
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:18, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oberon in fiction → Uranus in fiction#Moons (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Oberon#In popular culture is a possible target, but, by the nature of the subject, there isn't going to be any non-fiction coverage. In any case, the obvious meaning of "Oberon" here is the fairy king, not the moon. Tevildo (talk) 18:03, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
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Sunny country
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 13:21, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
what? originally redirected to sahara, but... the sun shines on at least two other countries. maybe even more, i'm not entirely sure about brazil. i think the creator realized a little too late that sahara wasn't a country cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- right, yeah, should note. results gave me stock photos, some aggressively american radio station, and poorly resized images of sonic the hedgehog. not in that list are deserts cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Overly vague. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:16, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per Zxcvbnm. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:31, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as vague --Lenticel (talk) 00:47, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
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September 2017 bridge incident
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 05:55, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- September 2017 bridge incident → PewDiePie#2017–2018: media controversies, streaming, and formatted shows (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No clue what this is supposed to mean in context to the target. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 06:47, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- This refers to the PUBG Battlegrounds racial slur incident described in the fourth paragraph, which became known in internet lore as "the bridge incident" ([1]). However it's fairly obscure (when we take into account WP:SYSTEMICBIAS) and an even more obscure search term for it. Retarget to 2017 Mumbai stampede, a disaster that occurred in September 2017 on an overcrowded footbridge, with multiple fatalities. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Unlikely search term for the stampede. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:40, 27 November 2024 (UTC)- delete. on the vague side, even if i know exactly what it's supposed to mean in the context of the target cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:26, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
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⚭/equaric unicodes
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 4#⚭/equaric unicodes
Cilla Single
[edit]- Cilla Single → Benjamin Franklin (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Can't find where Ben Frank ever used this as a pseudonym. TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 00:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC) — TeapotsOfDoom (talk · contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Okmrman (talk · contribs).
- Unsure at the moment. A Google search for this term doesn't bring up anything showing how it's related Benjamin Franklin (neither does one for both this term and "Benjamin Franklin"), and mostly talks about stuff relating to Cilla Black or Cilla The Musical. I'm not sure of the connection either, but Rich Farmbrough, who created this redirect, might know. Regards, SONIC678 01:19, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I can't find a shred of evidence that this name has any association to the target whatsoever. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 15:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I've added a reference to the redirect. Ben Franklin had a lot of pen names, as did Daniel Defoe. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 19:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC).
- Which I've reverted, since you removed the RFD tag, and it should be either here or on the talk page of the redirect, or both. I did check it, and there's no mention on the page you gave, but there is a few pages later. It's a single bare listing, with no context or corroboration. Given that no one else has been able to able to verify this, I'm dubious of the reliability of the source, and if nothing else, the usefulness. Furthermore, given how many other entries from this book you've created, it would seem to be a mass creation in violation of your current editing restrictions. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 23:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- No, this is not a mass creation contrary to Rich's editing restrictions. @35.139.154.158: your repeated references to Rich's restrictions where they definitely don't apply is bordering on harassment at this point. Knock it off.
- Rich, adding references to redirects is odd, readers typically don't see the content of redirects. Is there a way to add this information to the article instead? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 23:49, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Eh, fine. My points about the redirect itself though still stand. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 00:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- The reference is not for readers, it's for RfD regulars. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 17:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC).
- Which I've reverted, since you removed the RFD tag, and it should be either here or on the talk page of the redirect, or both. I did check it, and there's no mention on the page you gave, but there is a few pages later. It's a single bare listing, with no context or corroboration. Given that no one else has been able to able to verify this, I'm dubious of the reliability of the source, and if nothing else, the usefulness. Furthermore, given how many other entries from this book you've created, it would seem to be a mass creation in violation of your current editing restrictions. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 23:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:34, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment surprisingly (to me) this seems to be attested despite very limited online hits: Franklin, Benjamin; Smyth, Albert H. (1905). The writings of Benjamin Franklin. New York, London: Macmillan Co.; Macmillan & Co. OCLC 1158474884. Retrieved 2024-11-28. (on page 186). I'm very unsure how someone would end up searching for this term without knowing it was a pseudonym of Franklin's however.
- This may be added to the target at the "Success as an author" section where it says
He frequently wrote under pseudonyms.
If we have 3 or 4 names, Cilla Single can be mentioned alongwith them. Jay 💬 06:21, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
Benjamin Franklin (swim coach)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. asilvering (talk) 06:41, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Benjamin Franklin (swim coach) → Benjamin Franklin (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
HUH??? TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 01:06, 20 November 2024 (UTC) — TeapotsOfDoom (talk · contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Okmrman (talk · contribs).
- It's true Ca talk to me! 04:43, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Add a mention to "Interests and Activities" section and redirect there. There are surprising amount of literature on this. Ca talk to me! 04:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Even if true, and even if mentioned, having a disambiguator like that is needlessly silly and pointless, since that's not what he's known for, and makes it sound like the disambiguator is there to distinguish someone else of the same name, notable for a different reason. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 15:21, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- cf. Benjamin Franklin (clergyman) (which is someone else), vs. Benjamin Franklin (statesman) (which is not, so there's no such link) 35.139.154.158 (talk) 04:40, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Readers might be looking for content about Franklin as a swim coach. Ca talk to me! 04:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- If they are, then they'd probably just go to the page and ctrl+f swimming, rather than enter an implausible disambiguator in their search. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:34, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Refine to Benjamin Franklin#Interests and activities and add a mention there per Ca's findings and some of my own. People might be interested in finding out his endeavors as a swim coach in addition to his other ones, and there's a lot of literature to back this up. Regards, SONIC678 06:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is a misuse of a disambguator; see WP:DAB, which explains the purpose is to differentiate articles. If someone wants to know about a particular aspect of BF's life, they'll just look up the article on BF; no one's going to type in a random disambiguator on the off chance it'll save them a ctrl-F or a few spins of the scroll wheel. And again, the existence of this is misleading, as it seems to imply that it's for a different person of the same name, rather than the extremely well known PTOPIC. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 06:42, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per 35.139.154.158. Not what redirects are for. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:28, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:33, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete this baffling redirect. I genuinely can't imagine someone typing this in Wikipedia. Benjamin Franklin swimming perhaps, but swim coach in brackets? I struggle to imagine a single instance where there would be discussion of Benjamin Franklin's swimming activities that does not point out extremely early and strongly that this is the one and same Benjamin Franklin. Franklin is the primary topic for Benjamin Franklin and I don't see his swimming activities as being significant enough to "block" this page from a future notable Benjamin Franklin who is notable as a swim coach. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shazback (talk • contribs) 2024-11-27 (UTC)
- Delete per deletion arguments above. --Schützenpanzer (Talk) 00:05, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per everybody above, essentially. This is not a useful or likely search term. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 10:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete No mention of him being a swim coach. KOLANO12 3 20:10, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- At first, I was voting delete due to vandalism but I did some research and now I can safely say to add a mention in #Interests and activities and refine to there. Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 07:21, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
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2024 AP Poll
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 4#2024 AP Poll
Unmentioned Pikmin 2 caves
[edit]- Hole of Heroes → Pikmin 2 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Glutton's Kitchen → Pikmin 2 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Submerged Castle → Pikmin 2 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These caves aren't mentioned in the target article (and weren't at the time the Hole of Heroes one, which was always a redirect, was created). As for the other two, they began as articles on their respective caves (see here and here for what the articles looked like before they were turned into redirects) until Combination redirected them to the main article in November 2006 (when they actually were mentioned before Abryn removed them with this edit in October 2008 to trim down the page) because, in their summary for the Submerged Castle one, there [was] absolutely no reason for this to be kept separate from the Pikmin 2 article
. Unlike Dream Den, which is worth keeping because that cave actually is mentioned in the article and has plot relevance, I'm not sure we need to keep these redirects when their respective caves aren't mentioned in the target article. Regards, SONIC678 01:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:20, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:07, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget castle to Saga Castle, Delete the other two. Glutton's Kitchen's unsourced page content in the history is not important as game cruft. Jay 💬 06:37, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment:
- No pages currently link to Hole of Heroes; it received 4 page views in the 90 days before the RFD opened.
- No pages currently link to Glutton's Kitchen; it received 3 page views in the 90 days before the RFD opened.
- No pages currently link to Submerged Castle; it received 2 page views in the 90 days before the RFD opened.
- Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 04:47, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
DuPage 3
[edit]- DuPage 3 → DuPage County, Illinois (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Du Page 3 → DuPage County, Illinois (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Group of neighborhoods previously WP:BLARd no longer mentioned in target article. Delete unless it is mentioned somewhere else. -1ctinus📝🗨 00:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Maybe Illinois = Ill = III = 3? All the best: Rich Farmbrough 17:10, 22 November 2024 (UTC).
- No, this is from the article before the merger:
The Du Page 3 refers to the Chicago suburbs of Burr Ridge, Hinsdale, and Oak Brook.
Not mentioned in the article. -1ctinus📝🗨 22:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- No, this is from the article before the merger:
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:11, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete to add to the comment above, possibly related to Illinois's 3rd congressional district? Perhaps also a county district: map of District 3 on the DuPage county website? Either way, completely not obvious as neither are valid targets, so delete is more appropriate.Shazback (talk) 16:45, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- It was not a BLAR, it was merged, and I have tagged DuPage 3 as an {{R from merge}}. Jay 💬 06:51, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: No pages currently link to DuPage 3; it has had 7 page views in the 90 days prior to the RFD. No pages currently link to Du Page 3; it had 2 page views in the 90 days before the RFD.
Thank Goodness
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 4#Thank Goodness
Athletic Field (Seattle)
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 4#Athletic Field (Seattle)